2025 VIRMP Match

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Is it safe to say, by the time ranks are due if we hadn't heard back from the academic locations that say they interview invited applicants that they aren't as interested? I know a couple locations I applied too had been mentioned here about interview offers and I wasn't sure if VIRMP is treated similarly to the human match equivalent where you only rank those you interviewed with (if they offer interviews, not including locations that solely go off of application).
 
cml156 said:
Is it safe to say, by the time ranks are due if we hadn't heard back from the academic locations that say they interview invited applicants that they aren't as interested? I know a couple locations I applied too had been mentioned here about interview offers and I wasn't sure if VIRMP is treated similarly to the human match equivalent where you only rank those you interviewed with (if they offer interviews, not including locations that solely go off of application).
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You should rank anywhere that you would be interested in going. There is no downside at all to doing it.

Every year, there’s at least 1 person who matches somewhere they hadn’t heard anything from.
 
Has anyone interviewed at AMC? Did they send you an email after your interview?
 
Hi, anyone here applied to Med Onc resd?
and have you heard from anyone?
 
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katiemcat said:
Hi all. I’m not applying to the match this year, but I will probably be next year. At thanksgiving dinner my grandmother decided to announce to everyone that I was pursing residency and my uncle (who is a general practice veterinarian of 30 years) told me that would be a really stupid idea because I would be giving up a lot of money and time. He also said if I really wanted to specialize I could just “do it while being in GP.” First of all, I am very not interested in GP and I want the mentorship that comes with residency, but is the second part true? If it is do people commonly go through this to specialize? I have never heard this mentioned. Thanks!
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Things have changed A LOT in 30 years. Honestly I think it depends on the speciality regarding whether it’s ’worth It or not’
 
katiemcat said:
I am interested in specializing in internal medicine or cardiology. I have a specialty externship scheduled this summer somewhere I hope to do my rotating. He kind of made me feel stupid for choosing this pathway? Good to know it’s not common and not for a majority of specialty.
Edit: thanks so much for clarifying
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Internists often make similar to what GPs do BUT they often go into bigger and better things around 10-15 or even 20+ years after their residency. Cardiologists can do well with the right caseload. Both of these specialties actually both take the general ACVIM first part of boards (everyone does even large animal) second year residency and then they take their more specialty boards and submit cases year three (plus a research paper). It’s involved, but some people have done well with it. You can do almost anything in GP that an internist does, but with that extra training comes with the ability to move up the job ladder faster and some internists have enough caseload that they are doing significant better financially than GPs. All things to think about.
 
Musicandhorses said:
Internists often make similar to what GPs do BUT they often go into bigger and better things around 10-15 or even 20+ years after their residency. Cardiologists can do well with the right caseload. Both of these specialties actually both take the general ACVIM first part of boards (everyone does even large animal) second year residency and then they take their more specialty boards and submit cases year three (plus a research paper). It’s involved, but some people have done well with it. You can do almost anything in GP that an internist does, but with that extra training comes with the ability to move up the job ladder faster and some internists have enough caseload that they are doing significant better financially than GPs. All things to think about.
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Hey, thanks for your reply! Since I originally posted this I have become almost certain I am doing a rotating internship and pursuing a speciality. You have some good points, especially regarding the financial aspect of IM but luckily it’s not the money that interests me in specialty and I have a relatively low debt load (no undergrad debt, IS vet school, spouse has a decent income). I will say one thing that especially interests me is often times when a client turns to an internist they have tried almost “everything” and been to several DVMs. So I would say at least in academia the scope of practice is often a bit beyond that of your average GP (but you a correct a GP can absolutely seek additional training to obtain additional skills). I will keep all of your advice in mind as I start my externships and apply to VIRMP next year 🙂
 
Musicandhorses said:
Internists often make similar to what GPs
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This is not true. My friend is finishing her IM residency and has her contract sign and in hand. 275k base with 25% production that she is expected to make within the first quarter. I also know multiple GPs in the area she's moving that don't even hit 275k with their production. I live in Denver and don't know a GP that makes 275k with production either. The only folks I know making that much base are specialty and VEG ER docs.
 
battie said:
This is not true. My friend is finishing her IM residency and has her contract sign and in hand. 275k base with 25% production that she is expected to make within the first quarter. I also know multiple GPs in the area she's moving that don't even hit 275k with their production. I live in Denver and don't know a GP that makes 275k with production either. The only folks I know making that much base are specialty and VEG ER docs.
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Yeah in my area at least the internists are making close to double what the GPs in my area seem to make (but again the money aspect is not part of my attraction at all). Thank you for adding your experience!
 
Is anyone interested in doing a mock interview session for a Small animal rotating internship? If yes, please message me. We can set up a convenient time and give feedback to each other.
 
Sadly they make similar to GP in my area. Maybe I need to move as I’m interested in IM and I might try to get boarded at some point (I finished an IM residency ages ago but never took boards as I was having major health issues). Most GPs are making $150k to 200k and IM is similar (not counting neuro and cardio).
 
Musicandhorses said:
Sadly they make similar to GP in my area. Maybe I need to move as I’m interested in IM and I might try to get boarded at some point (I finished an IM residency ages ago but never took boards as I was having major health issues). Most GPs are making $150k to 200k and IM is similar (not counting neuro and cardio).
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And many of the other forums that I’ve gone to say the same thing. There is a lot of overlap between GP and IM salary. It really depends on your GP clientele and the busyness of your GP practice as compared to your caseload as IM. I’m not knocking the specialty at all. Like I said I would love to be double boarded in ACVIM and ACVSM and that was the plan until I got sick. Then I was offered a PhD and finished that and got better
 
katiemcat said:
Hey, thanks for your reply! Since I originally posted this I have become almost certain I am doing a rotating internship and pursuing a speciality. You have some good points, especially regarding the financial aspect of IM but luckily it’s not the money that interests me in specialty and I have a relatively low debt load (no undergrad debt, IS vet school, spouse has a decent income). I will say one thing that especially interests me is often times when a client turns to an internist they have tried almost “everything” and been to several DVMs. So I would say at least in academia the scope of practice is often a bit beyond that of your average GP (but you a correct a GP can absolutely seek additional training to obtain additional skills). I will keep all of your advice in mind as I start my externships and apply to VIRMP next year 🙂
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That’s exciting!
 
battie said:
This is not true. My friend is finishing her IM residency and has her contract sign and in hand. 275k base with 25% production that she is expected to make within the first quarter. I also know multiple GPs in the area she's moving that don't even hit 275k with their production. I live in Denver and don't know a GP that makes 275k with production either. The only folks I know making that much base are specialty and VEG ER docs.
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Holy smokes. What area will she be in? 275 might be the highest base I've ever seen.
 
pp9 said:
Holy smokes. What area will she be in? 275 might be the highest base I've ever seen.
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That honestly is on par with what I've heard for friends finishing residency in the last couple years over a broad range of locations. Production for them wasn't on top of that though, it was only if their production pay beat out the base that they would get paid the extra (which I think is standard for pro-sal?).
 
TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo said:
That honestly is on par with what I've heard for friends finishing residency in the last couple years over a broad range of locations. Production for them wasn't on top of that though, it was only if their production pay beat out the base that they would get paid the extra (which I think is standard for pro-sal?).
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That is how it works for my friend too. They're just certain she will meet her base within the first fiscal quarter and so she's been told she'll make her production the majority of the year.
 
*cries in pathology*
Slight exaggeration because despite baseline salary for a pathologist at my company being about 140, I should make about 250k this year, but I do a whole lot of extra cases and weekend work to get there. But good for her/everyone!
 
Has anybody received invitation from UGA for SAIM residency after that mass email thing ?
 
Is there an equivalent program for veterinary students who want to pursue internship/residency in Europe or Australia?
 
SV88 said:
Is there an equivalent program for veterinary students who want to pursue internship/residency in Europe or Australia?
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Not sure about specifics or if it’s a match process but I did see a post from RVC in London about their SA rotating internship program.
 
BigCats said:
Anyone started hearing from academic rotating internships yet? I have two on my list that say they’ll reach out to invited applicants only, just wanted to see if anyone’s started hearing yet!
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I recently heard from Oregon State but no other academic so far
 
Hi! Any advice for rotating and specialty internship interview questions? I have heard rotatings are more conversational with the exception of having to talk through a case. I also applied to a few exotics/zoo/wildlife specialty internships and can’t find much on how the specialty interviews go
 
For SA Rotating Internship: Has anyone heard from Wisconsin, Tennessee, Michigan, or Texas A&M?
 
Cs509 said:
For SA Rotating Internship: Has anyone heard from Wisconsin, Tennessee, Michigan, or Texas A&M?
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There was 1 post I've seen so far that mentioned hearing from TAMU for a SA Rotating. I actually didnt know TAMU or UT would reach out if they have it listed that they don't do interviews -- Is it common to still hear from places that don't list they do interviews?
 
cml156 said:
There was 1 post I've seen so far that mentioned hearing from TAMU for a SA Rotating. I actually didnt know TAMU or UT would reach out if they have it listed that they don't do interviews -- Is it common to still hear from places that don't list they do interviews?
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Last year, I heard from OSU even they didn’t list they do interviews… so I assume yes?
 
cml156 said:
Is it safe to say, by the time ranks are due if we hadn't heard back from the academic locations that say they interview invited applicants that they aren't as interested? I know a couple locations I applied too had been mentioned here about interview offers and I wasn't sure if VIRMP is treated similarly to the human match equivalent where you only rank those you interviewed with (if they offer interviews, not including locations that solely go off of application).
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NO. I did not get interviewed by anyone. I matched at my top academic. Based on how the match works, you should rank in order of where YOU want to go. Your rankings does not impact your chance at each school
 
I also just heard from Wisconsin!
 
I know we still have some time before Match Day, but I was wondering if/how people prepare for the scramble? I know there is a chance I don't match, so I want to be prepared to scramble smart. I am not sure if anyone has any insight on this?
 
How competitive of a rotating internship application is necessary to match to your top choice? And just because the academic institution doesn't reach out for an interview, does that mean you are lower on their list and should rank them lower?
 
Preface: I applied to specialty internship and residency in wildlife/zoo.

Today I reached out to the academic internships and residencies I applied to that require interviews on their profile. I received a few email replies already stating that interviews were completed and that they rank based on the applicants interviewed. At least now I can now decide the places I am not ranking due to lack of required interview.
 
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ghostridervet said:
Preface: I applied to specialty internship and residency in wildlife/zoo.

Today I reached out to the academic internships and residencies I applied to that require interviews on their profile. I received a few email replies already stating that interviews were completed and that they rank based on the applicants interviewed. At least now I can now decide the places I am not ranking due to lack of required interview.
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Are you willing to share which academic specialty internships notified you that they have completed interviews? I also applied to specialty internships in wildlife/zoo medicine and it would be helpful to know which programs are no longer contacting applicants about interviews.
 
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