A podiatrist is nothing more than an advanced nurse???

[podlover]

A pre-vet female said this too me the other day and I was insulted. Nothing against nurses but as a pre -pod I do not understand how some people can make such statements only against podiatry. Any ideas or comments?

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[arez10]

Ridiculous statement. That's all you need to know.

 

[shenanigans327]

A pre-vet female said this too me the other day and I was insulted. Nothing against nurses but as a pre -pod I do not understand how some people can make such statements only against podiatry. Any ideas or comments?

"Opinions are like a**holes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."

I wouldn't think too much into it...

 

[dyk343]

I would be more offended in this case if I were a nurse.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Tell him/her that you have a foot fetish, but that's better than bestiality.

 

[Ferocity]

tell him/her that you have a foot fetish, but that's better than bestiality.

zing!

 

[dare1183]

A pre-vet female said this too me the other day and I was insulted. Nothing against nurses but as a pre -pod I do not understand how some people can make such statements only against podiatry. Any ideas or comments?

hahah Podlover= NeilD
Just so you know Neil was ejected from the NY school for cheating on his 2nd year , after spending all this money for the first 2 years, They throw him out. so he comes back and forth under different names and with different topics trying to get back at podiatry and to prove that he is better .
Also just so you know, Recently a podiatrist was hired in nevada as a chief of surgery of a big hospital there. I forgot the name of the hospital but anyone can google it and they could find out. Thats pretty good for an advanced nurse : )

 

[podlover]

No! Im an actual pre-pod student and a girl at my school who was in my comparative anatomy class actually said this to me. I am proud to be pre-pod I have had two internships and shadowed student DPMs and 3 DPMs... check my other posts. I was just venting about it and posted it.

Thanks for the comments everyone.

btw, I am female as well.

 

[PADPM]

You can always tell her what I tell people when they make idiotic comments. I tell them I REALLY wanted to be a proctologist......but there weren't enough openings.

 

[jonwill]

Well lets see, last week I was called to the ER where a lady was beaten by her husband (he shot at her 6 times and missed) and he broke her ankle in 3 places. I admitted her to my service, fixed her ankle fracture, and then medically managed her until discharge 3 days later. I'm currently seeing my first patient of the morning who is an 11 year old whom I performed a flatfoot reconstruction on 4 weeks ago. I think my other room has a 16 year old with an distal fibula fracture.

I love being an advanced nurse!

 

[shadesofgrey]

You can always tell her what I tell people when they make idiotic comments. I tell them I REALLY wanted to be a proctologist......but there weren't enough openings.

hahahaha that is the best thing I've ever read on this forum

 

[podlover]

Well lets see, last week I was called to the ER where a lady was beaten by her husband (he shot at her 6 times and missed) and he broke her ankle in 3 places. I admitted her to my service, fixed her ankle fracture, and then medically managed her until discharge 3 days later. I'm currently seeing my first patient of the morning who is an 11 year old whom I performed a flatfoot reconstruction on 4 weeks ago. I think my other room has a 16 year old with an distal fibula fracture.

I love being an advanced nurse!

 

[Ferocity]

Well lets see, last week I was called to the ER where a lady was beaten by her husband (he shot at her 6 times and missed) and he broke her ankle in 3 places. I admitted her to my service, fixed her ankle fracture, and then medically managed her until discharge 3 days later. I'm currently seeing my first patient of the morning who is an 11 year old whom I performed a flatfoot reconstruction on 4 weeks ago. I think my other room has a 16 year old with an distal fibula fracture.

I love being an advanced nurse!

That is an impressive lineup of foot nursing opportunities.

 

[flyhi]

I'm not sure why a pre-vet would say this, other than pure naivety, considering vet students 'only' go to school for 4 years (internship and residency optional), learn all species but one in that time, and then are qualified to treat, do surgery, etc on all aspects of all animals

I wouldn't worry about it..most people in other professions don't really know all that is involved in the training. My dentist and ob/gyn both thought vet school was a 2 year program.

 

[NeilD]

I come from a podiatry family so before I get in trouble again on this board for being negative I will tell you that you better be prepared to be insulted and talked down to from time to time if you stick with it. There is what's called a "RD" stigma or complex - Real Doctor. From medical professionals to laymen, people will say hurtful and insulting things throughout your career which all the Pods in the real world keep to themselves but is painful.

 

[347932]

I come from a podiatry family so before I get in trouble again on this board for being negative I will tell you that you better be prepared to be insulted and talked down to from time to time if you stick with it. There is what's called a "RD" stigma or complex - Real Doctor. From medical professionals to laymen, people will say hurtful and insulting things throughout your career which all the Pods in the real world keep to themselves but is painful.

OMG pleeeeeeeeeeease give it up and go elsewhere. Pretty please, with whipped cream AND a cherry on top.

 

[bobdolerson]

You should tell that nurse to get back in the kitchen and make you a sandwich. She puts in IVs and whatnot, she's basically just an advanced nutrient delivery system.

Honestly, though, those are the same sorts of people you run into that like to spout off about most anything they've heard as though they have an idea. Kinda like how dogs mouths are cleaner than humans, or gum stays in your system for 7 years.

People hear stuff, it sounds snappy, and they store it away in long-term memory as a fact without doing any sort of research on the subject on their own.

Pay these people no mind, and don't allow yourself to ever get antagonized or get into a debate with someone like this. They've demonstrated a willingness to espouse beliefs without understanding, and whether political, religious or medical in nature, that's just a thing to avoid.

Be the best you can be in your field, and change people's mind by your excellence.

 

[jonwill]

I come from a podiatry family so before I get in trouble again on this board for being negative I will tell you that you better be prepared to be insulted and talked down to from time to time if you stick with it. There is what's called a "RD" stigma or complex - Real Doctor. From medical professionals to laymen, people will say hurtful and insulting things throughout your career which all the Pods in the real world keep to themselves but is painful.

As a practicing podiatrist, I can with authority tell you that this is not the case. You sure are getting a lot of inaccurate info. I would consider your sources because they aren't the best!

 

[NeilD]

I suppose my brother and uncle are both lying to me then when they tell me they come back to the office after foot surgery at a hospital and old women with bags of shoes are waiting for them wanting them to evaluate their shoe choices. In my brothers words, it sort of lets the air out of your tires. Glad nothing like that ever happens to you.

 

[flyhi]

women with bags of shoes are waiting for them wanting them to evaluate their shoe choices.

And, what's wrong with that? I think it shows respect for what they do. These older women value their opinion and want to wear shoes that are the best for their feet. Yeah, I see a lot of those types of questions in my future and think it's important for especially women to know the good, bad and ugly of shoes. It's simply educating your clients.

 

[SuperFeisty]

Guys guys, don't hate NeilD because he wants to date a Kardashian! Keep dreamin big yo!

 

[PADPM]

Well lets see, last week I was called to the ER where a lady was beaten by her husband (he shot at her 6 times and missed) and he broke her ankle in 3 places. I admitted her to my service, fixed her ankle fracture, and then medically managed her until discharge 3 days later. I'm currently seeing my first patient of the morning who is an 11 year old whom I performed a flatfoot reconstruction on 4 weeks ago. I think my other room has a 16 year old with an distal fibula fracture.

I love being an advanced nurse!

Jonwill,

On a serious note, I'm truly happy that you're busy and successful. But I'm curious as to why YOU managed the patient medically for 3 days? If a patient is being managed medically by you, how involved to you get? If the patient has hypertension or another chronic medical condtion, do you write for those meds? I understand that it is common to simply continue existing meds, etc., but in every hospital where I work, the specialist rarely if ever manages the patient medically. The internists or hospitalists handle these duties. The orthopod, DPM, vascular surgeon, etc., all use the internists or hospitalists.

If you are truly managing your patients medically, you MAY want to check with your malpractice carrier to see if you would be covered if there was some medical "event" and you were the only doctor handling non podiatric ailments (systemic conditions).

This is a sincere question, not a criticism.

 

[347932]

I suppose my brother and uncle are both lying to me then when they tell me they come back to the office after foot surgery at a hospital and old women with bags of shoes are waiting for them wanting them to evaluate their shoe choices. In my brothers words, it sort of lets the air out of your tires. Glad nothing like that ever happens to you.

Oy vey, again with the bag of shoes?? We all deal with that. The way you describe your bro in multiple posts, he has a serious ego problem. Tell him to come down to earth and realize all of us deal with it and gladly so.

 

[bobdolerson]

I worked at Best Buy years ago, and before that spent my time building computers, radios, etc.

I had people come up to me all the time that knew what I at my job and at my time off, and would routinely come to me for questions that I wasn't paid to answer, from whether or not I could fix their computer cause their "download was broke", or to explain to them why their tube tv was not a plasma screen, regardless of how funny and hi-tech the psychedelic colors looked when they held a magnet to it.

An old lady coming to a person who specializes in disorders and care of the feet for foot-care questions? Why is this an issue? This is what you signed up for!

The DPM has a role to his community more than to fix problems, but to educate regarding proper care in every way (including shoe selection) to better overall health.

Besides, be glad you're not a proctologist. I can imagine the questions they get asked by people looking for a free diagnosis are probably far worse.

 

[janV88]

I suppose my brother and uncle are both lying to me then when they tell me they come back to the office after foot surgery at a hospital and old women with bags of shoes are waiting for them wanting them to evaluate their shoe choices. In my brothers words, it sort of lets the air out of your tires. Glad nothing like that ever happens to you.

Ah yes...because the ENT surgeon who just did some complex vocal cord surgery never ever come back to their office to perform ear wax removal...

This ENT surgeon, MD must not be a "real doctor" because he is making a video on ear wax removal tips. http://www.5min.com/Video/Ear-Wax-Removal-11598

Get over yourself and start putting the patient first...not your ego.

 

[jonwill]

Jonwill,

On a serious note, I'm truly happy that you're busy and successful. But I'm curious as to why YOU managed the patient medically for 3 days? If a patient is being managed medically by you, how involved to you get? If the patient has hypertension or another chronic medical condtion, do you write for those meds? I understand that it is common to simply continue existing meds, etc., but in every hospital where I work, the specialist rarely if ever manages the patient medically. The internists or hospitalists handle these duties. The orthopod, DPM, vascular surgeon, etc., all use the internists or hospitalists.

If you are truly managing your patients medically, you MAY want to check with your malpractice carrier to see if you would be covered if there was some medical "event" and you were the only doctor handling non podiatric ailments (systemic conditions).

This is a sincere question, not a criticism.

If anything gets too crazy, I will consult medicine. But it's harder to get a consult at some of the smaller hospitals and if you haven't already tried A, B, C, etc, they get pissed and tell you to try them and if it doesn't work, call them back. I actually got in a fight at one small hospital with an internist because they wanted ME to admit a patient to the ICU. Anyway, not an easy question to answer but I have my limits and I know where they are.

 

[jonwill]

I suppose my brother and uncle are both lying to me then when they tell me they come back to the office after foot surgery at a hospital and old women with bags of shoes are waiting for them wanting them to evaluate their shoe choices. In my brothers words, it sort of lets the air out of your tires. Glad nothing like that ever happens to you.

Neil, I don't think your brother and uncle are lying. I know there is a minority of podiatrists that struggle for various reasons. My point is that between myself and the other attending pods on this forum, we know of hundreds (if not thousands) of successful podiatrists that are treated as physicians and surgeons (as they should be). So for every person that has the experience of your brother or uncle, there are hundreds that have our experience. Understand? I recently met a cardiologist whose practice went under. So are all cardiologists struggling?

 

[podlover]

She puts in IVs and whatnot, she's basically just an advanced nutrient delivery system.

 

[jahra]

In my case, a podiatrist is a surgeon with a compassionate heart, using
his knowledge and expertise to correct a painful bunion/hammertoe issue.
My surgeon and his team at his office, have guided me through this process
with expert care .

We are still on the journey, as I am still in a cast for 2 more weeks.

At the end of the recent surgery, I woke up in the OR with my podiatrist finishing
up work on the cast along with team of nurses , medical intern completing their work.

Please have respect as you post as to who is reading your replies...

I am a retired nurse (diploma) with over 20 years in various nursing specialties.
Please consider not to judge by education title alone. It is a wonderful
advantage to have all of the new options for professional growth and advancement.
Each medical or nursing field members need to be respected for their education and contribution often in a
team effort on behalf of the patient.

What is most important in any field of medicine /nursing is to have a passion for your
work, It takes time and experience to have the patience to learn all you need
to learn to be your best in the field, along with the personal sacrifices you make.

Personally, I was honored to have my surgeon and his team working so
to give me the gift of being able to walk comfortably and enjoy activities with
my family again.

Thanks for letting me make a guest appearance to your forum.
Best wishes .....

 

[podlover]

In my case, a podiatrist is a surgeon with a compassionate heart, using
his knowledge and expertise to correct a painful bunion/hammertoe issue.
My surgeon and his team at his office, have guided me through this process
with expert care .

We are still on the journey, as I am still in a cast for 2 more weeks.

At the end of the recent surgery, I woke up in the OR with my podiatrist finishing
up work on the cast along with team of nurses , medical intern completing their work.

Please have respect as you post as to who is reading your replies...

I am a retired nurse (diploma) with over 20 years in various nursing specialties.
Please consider not to judge by education title alone. It is a wonderful
advantage to have all of the new options for professional growth and advancement.
Each medical or nursing field members need to be respected for their education and contribution often in a
team effort on behalf of the patient.

What is most important in any field of medicine /nursing is to have a passion for your
work, It takes time and experience to have the patience to learn all you need
to learn to be your best in the field, along with the personal sacrifices you make.

Personally, I was honored to have my surgeon and his team working so
to give me the gift of being able to walk comfortably and enjoy activities with
my family again.

Thanks for letting me make a guest appearance to your forum.
Best wishes .....

My mother is a retired nurse(RN) but she would never interchange a nurse's role with a DPM or MD or DO or even an NP.

I think the bottom line is that other physicians in training do not fully understand the DPM. I think that patients are well informed that the podiatrist they see is a doctor. I never encountered a problem at the DPM's office where I shadowed. It seems to be the students in training with the chip on their shoulders and the need to talk down about someone else instead of networking with them.

 

[Traum]

Until there are LCME WHO accredited medical schools, USMLEs, ACGME accredited residencies, uniform ACGME surgical internships, ABSITEs, refereed basic sci pubs, research laboratories, etc.... ---- podiatry training/schools, and podiatrists will remain a raised eyebrow by many in the established medical fields. Regardless of all all the post-graduate training 3+yrs, photo ops, 5th grade magazine articles, similar toos, and almosts--does not cut it.

DPMs still cannot log onto MD sites to discuss ankle and foot pathology. This is crazy. Thought we were the premier foot and sometimes ankle specialists. This discrimination by numerous MD /DO sites underlies the fact that MDs and others do not consider podiatry a medical/surgical speciality (we're not an ABMS speciality-perhaps that's why), nor do they think our knowledge has merit on an MD/DO forum. Psychiatrists/opthos were giving advice on foot problems--podiatrists are NOT allowed to log in as our schooling is not WHO accredited, nor ABMS speciality. Podiatry is absent.

So we miss out on further learning, free CMEs, and surveys that helps medicine progress forward. What are the foot organizations, clubs, and schools doing about this-with all the fees, dues, tuitions?

We need absolute rigor, breadth, and students from high caliber universities, excellent GPAs, MCATs, extracurrics--until then, more of the same, and more proclamations and and PR visions.

 

[dtrack22]

DPMs still cannot log onto MD sites to discuss ankle and foot pathology.

Maybe not all sites, but some. You can even be a physician member of the Society for Vascular Surgery.

Until there are LCME WHO accredited medical schools, USMLEs, ACGME accredited residencies, uniform ACGME surgical internships, ABSITEs, refereed basic sci pubs, research laboratories, etc....

Most of this is nothing more than a pissing match, and I have a feeling you'd find plenty of people that don't see any advantage to being accredited by the LCME and force all of our programs to be overseen by the ACGME...

In fact, other than boosting an ego, how would the above changes benefit your average podiatry practice?

 

[Cizzen]

Until there are LCME WHO accredited medical schools, USMLEs, ACGME accredited residencies, uniform ACGME surgical internships, ABSITEs, refereed basic sci pubs, research laboratories, etc.... ---- podiatry training/schools, and podiatrists will remain a raised eyebrow by many in the established medical fields. Regardless of all all the post-graduate training 3+yrs, photo ops, 5th grade magazine articles, similar toos, and almosts--does not cut it.

DPMs still cannot log onto MD sites to discuss ankle and foot pathology. This is crazy. Thought we were the premier foot and sometimes ankle specialists. This discrimination by numerous MD /DO sites underlies the fact that MDs and others do not consider podiatry a medical/surgical speciality (we're not an ABMS speciality-perhaps that's why), nor do they think our knowledge has merit on an MD/DO forum. Psychiatrists/opthos were giving advice on foot problems--podiatrists are NOT allowed to log in as our schooling is not WHO accredited, nor ABMS speciality. Podiatry is absent.

So we miss out on further learning, free CMEs, and surveys that helps medicine progress forward. What are the foot organizations, clubs, and schools doing about this-with all the fees, dues, tuitions?

We need absolute rigor, breadth, and students from high caliber universities, excellent GPAs, MCATs, extracurrics--until then, more of the same, and more proclamations and and PR visions.

Nicely stated. No, podiatrists are not permitted to chat with physicians at the physician only site because they are not considered physicians. Podiatry is an ancillary service provider. Look no further than the NPI registry. The students appear to be more concerned with picking apart statements, petty infighting, and adding minor comments instead of addressing their upcoming future. DPM degrees are as questionable in 2012 as they were 30-40 years ago. Wake up students, the world is moving along and physician extenders are performing much of what you claim mastery of-No the US is not in dire need for more foot surgeons, the country needs practitioners who can provide a host of services at a reasonable cost. The days of podiatry wound care are coming to a more realistic pricing range with practitioners who can also manage the disease state. Podiatrists will not fill the shoes of a good nurse, and Americans will not suffer an epidemic of bunions. Before going manic-defensive ask not what podiatry can do for America rather than what America is willing to exchange for a few good foot surgeons. If I was in the field these things would weigh heavily upon my thinking about podia try's place in mainstream medical care. We're a nation at a crossroads-being young and saddled with debt, and a limited skill set makes for a choppy ride into the future.

 

[Traum]

Thank you for your kind note. Many MD/DO websites (offer learning blogs, CMEs, paid surveys, etc...ways to help patients) currently do not permit podiatrists from logging on. Epocrates, sermo, etc...All the specialities are listed including dentistry and OMFS, where's podiatry? Where going on 2013.

This is NOT an "ego" issue. It is an educational one, that clubs, orgs, and schools need to act. Right now a DPM=DPM=DPM, an unknown degree triad with lower tier students, applicants. What value outside clinical podiatry does a DPM have? Most do not know what a DPM is, does, training, etc...two clicks away and the general public quickly finds out. Attened podiatric school, not medical school, undergo a post-grad program, not ACGME residency, numerous non ABMS boards. This has been discussed for YEARs. yet status sorry quo.


The issue it is one of equality and parity and most importantly helping patients. By not being permitted to share ideas, comments, critiques with other medical profs re feet---podiatrists are in a world of their own. Psychiatrists and opthos talking about foot problems without any DPM input-not because of interest but b/c they are not permitted on MD/DO sites.

IF one purports to be a physician, do H and Ps, manage LE pathology, then how can podiatrists be equal if they never took the USMLEs, nor a LCME WHO accredited MEDICAL school? A non-physician doing foot and sometimes ankle surgery and medicine?

It is no wonder why there still exists discrimination and bias. Medicine is evolving, NPs, PAs, and DNPs will do OUR jobs. Where art thou podiatry? Who will pay for elective bunions, or wound care--the realm of nurses for decades? Cost IS paramount, the USA is in very deep economic peril. ways to cut cost is the ONLY concern. Where does that leave a non-physician doctoral provider?

The train has left the station, ground control to Major Tom--please have students take the USMLEs, LCME med schools, and real surgical internships with exactly (not similar) didactic and clinical training.

Thank you.

 

[Ferocity]

Nicely stated. No, podiatrists are not permitted to chat with physicians at the physician only site because they are not considered physicians. Podiatry is an ancillary service provider. Look no further than the NPI registry. The students appear to be more concerned with picking apart statements, petty infighting, and adding minor comments instead of addressing their upcoming future. DPM degrees are as questionable in 2012 as they were 30-40 years ago. Wake up students, the world is moving along and physician extenders are performing much of what you claim mastery of-No the US is not in dire need for more foot surgeons, the country needs practitioners who can provide a host of services at a reasonable cost. The days of podiatry wound care are coming to a more realistic pricing range with practitioners who can also manage the disease state. Podiatrists will not fill the shoes of a good nurse, and Americans will not suffer an epidemic of bunions. Before going manic-defensive ask not what podiatry can do for America rather than what America is willing to exchange for a few good foot surgeons. If I was in the field these things would weigh heavily upon my thinking about podia try's place in mainstream medical care. We're a nation at a crossroads-being young and saddled with debt, and a limited skill set makes for a choppy ride into the future.

Troll harder.

 

[podo trest]

Thank you for your kind note. Many MD/DO websites (offer learning blogs, CMEs, paid surveys, etc...ways to help patients) currently do not permit podiatrists from logging on. Epocrates, sermo, etc...All the specialities are listed including dentistry and OMFS, where's podiatry? Where going on 2013.

This is NOT an "ego" issue. It is an educational one, that clubs, orgs, and schools need to act. Right now a DPM=DPM=DPM, an unknown degree triad with lower tier students, applicants. What value outside clinical podiatry does a DPM have? Most do not know what a DPM is, does, training, etc...two clicks away and the general public quickly finds out. Attened podiatric school, not medical school, undergo a post-grad program, not ACGME residency, numerous non ABMS boards. This has been discussed for YEARs. yet status sorry quo.


The issue it is one of equality and parity and most importantly helping patients. By not being permitted to share ideas, comments, critiques with other medical profs re feet---podiatrists are in a world of their own. Psychiatrists and opthos talking about foot problems without any DPM input-not because of interest but b/c they are not permitted on MD/DO sites.

IF one purports to be a physician, do H and Ps, manage LE pathology, then how can podiatrists be equal if they never took the USMLEs, nor a LCME WHO accredited MEDICAL school? A non-physician doing foot and sometimes ankle surgery and medicine?

It is no wonder why there still exists discrimination and bias. Medicine is evolving, NPs, PAs, and DNPs will do OUR jobs. Where art thou podiatry? Who will pay for elective bunions, or wound care--the realm of nurses for decades? Cost IS paramount, the USA is in very deep economic peril. ways to cut cost is the ONLY concern. Where does that leave a non-physician doctoral provider?

The train has left the station, ground control to Major Tom--please have students take the USMLEs, LCME med schools, and real surgical internships with exactly (not similar) didactic and clinical training.

Thank you.

 

[dyk343]

Traum (Cizzen) what do you do all day? Why do you keep making new accounts?

I really dont understand the joy you get out of trolling our boards. It's quite pathetic.

DPMs still cannot log onto MD sites to discuss ankle and foot pathology.

I am a retired doc and was over at the physician only sites and posted questions. I got opinions from ortho, neurology, endocrinology, opthalmology, and many other specialties. I was surprised that there were no opinions from podiatrists. I looked up the guidelines and discovered that they do not permit you chaps from participating in doctor to doctor chats. Therefore, out of frustration posted this here. You fellows should get with the program and participate in physician discussions at the physician sites if you want to think of yourselves and be thought of as physicians at all. I got some helpful advice from many diverse medical specialists, none of them were foot docs.

 

[RockFoot]

HEHE Oh Traum, as I read your first post, I thought, this sounds like something Traum would say.. Yep, the poster is Traum, as always accompanied by some new poster admiring the brilliance of your observations, quit trying to save us from ourselves and go do something more useful like sort your collection of panties you stole from the girl's dorm laundry...

 

[dtrack22]

Traum (Cizzen) what do you do all day?

If you actually read his posts you'll notice that he doesn't do much other than hit ctrl+v

same argument, over, and over, and over...never responds to any point other posters make. Just more of the same ol' same ol' from Traum

There are plenty of issues within the profession and several different good ideas that could be thrown around in a discussion on how/what to improve...but Traum isn't interested in that. Which is really unfortunate because it sidetracks a thread to the point of no return, almost without fail.

 

[Sig Savant]

I love how we've locked out PADPM, driven Kidsfeet off the site, and are left with one person that keeps making new names. This place really has gone to crap fast

 

[dtrack22]

cool car tho

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I love how we've locked out PADPM, driven Kidsfeet off the site, and are left with one person that keeps making new names. This place really has gone to crap fast

I was just thinking this the other day.... why don't we have any "decent" attendings/pods posting on here? Occasionally we'll get Feli to post, but that isn't all that often...

 

[RockFoot]

It's partly my fault PADPM is gone (hopefully temporarily), I got him involved in my spat with the Wookie and **** splashed on him disproportionately for sure...

 

[nikkisorous]

Lol some of you guys care way too much about who posts here/what's posted. Here's an idea... If you have a legitimate question why not ask your professors and not random attendings/pods on a forum. As a pre-pod I don't have those resources yet which is why I utilize these forums, but some current students post things that can be answered so easily by asking a teacher/clinician.

 

[nikkisorous]

Really? Like who and about what?

You always seem to challenge me.. I like it. I kinda wish I was in your class just to have a rival. All you have to do is look down the podiatry student thread list and you will see MANY. But since you always seem to doubt me and want examples here you go :


http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=941525

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=939425

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=947868

All of these can EASILY be answered by asking clinicians or professors on campus or even more simply- a google search.

 

[nikkisorous]

A google search will do nothing for you when trying to find answers about externship programs. It is mostly through word of mouth and programs can change year to year based on the types of students/ personalities that match there. Programs can also change based on what clinician leaves or joins. That's the simplified answer.

Asking clinicians and professors will most likely do nothing for you...why? Because these clinicians/ professors have been out of the residency politics that they do not know the current status of programs. Again, how do you find this information out? By simply getting on the horn and communicating with older students at your school. Student input, from students who have already externed at programs you are interested in, is invaluable.

Well there you go- you said it yourself. The information comes from students at your school. Point still stands, if you want to get information you don't need quality people watching over forums to give you answers/information.

 

[dtrack22]

The information comes from students at your school.

So what do you do when you can't find/get a hold of anyone at your school who has externed at program X? Simple enough. Post on SDN and sift through the BS. It's better than nothing and many times it can put you in contact with someone outside of your program who then becomes a valuable resource.

Some people have contacts at most or all of the other pod programs and don't feel a need to post here to ask questions when a direct email is more efficient. Most students do not, giving SDN a lot of potential to be incredibly informative...

 

[nikkisorous]

So what do you do when you can't find/get a hold of anyone at your school who has externed at program X? Simple enough. Post on SDN and sift through the BS. It's better than nothing and many times it can put you in contact with someone outside of your program who then becomes a valuable resource.

Some people have contacts at most or all of the other pod programs and don't feel a need to post here to ask questions when a direct email is more efficient. Most students do not, giving SDN a lot of potential to be incredibly informative...

Keyword potential. It's the same people posting over and over again though, and having PADPM and kidsfeet back wouldn't make up for the low volume of current posters on these forums; and the larger sharing of information that could be achieved if these forums had more than 20 active posters..

The fact is people get too caught up on titles. This whole "pre-pods"<pod students<attending thing isn't always correct. Knowledge comes from all faucets of the world. True one can say that an attending knows more than the other two categories but people can still learn things from anyone. So keep an open-mind and be willing to learn from anyone, even the homeless man on the street may have a life story you can learn from. Morale of the story is: take information given to you, think on it, and act on it how you see best fit.

 

[Temperature101]

Why most pod students/attendings feel the need for their credential to be validated by someone? This is the world 'guys/girls' and someone will always try to show you that they are superior in any sort of way...Just do your best an let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Ferocity]