Allopathic IM for DOs

[Cochan]

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What allopathic programs are out there that will take DO students? I've been trying to search but I can't find any that have accepted DO students. Im just an MS2 about to be MS3 so I just need an slight idea of places to consider. What kind of hospitals would I need to look at (university or communit etc)? Id like to do a fellowship in GI so if you have any suggestions about getting in a allopathic GI fellowship as a DO that would be awesome.

 

[gutonc]

What allopathic programs are out there that will take DO students? I've been trying to search but I can't find any that have accepted DO students. Im just an MS2 about to be MS3 so I just need an slight idea of places to consider. What kind of hospitals would I need to look at (university or communit etc)? Id like to do a fellowship in GI so if you have any suggestions about getting in a allopathic GI fellowship as a DO that would be awesome.

This gets asked all the time. You're not going to find a program that says "we do not accept DO graduates" on their website or on their FREIDA page. But the vast majority of programs (perhaps with the exception of the very top rated programs - UCSF, Hopkins, Columbia, Duke, etc) interview, rank and match DOs.

The best way to find DO friendly programs is to look at the match lists of your school (the Dean's office should give it to you) or the publicly posted lists on the websites of other DO schools (some will post it, others will not).
You can also look at the websites of programs you're interested in and see if they have DOs on their current house staff rosters. Again, you won't find this for every program but will for most.

Finally, you probably don't realize this yet, but applying to residency programs is dirt cheap compared to what you're used to. You can apply to 100 programs for ~$1200 (I'm too lazy to do the math myself but it's a graduated fee schedule based on the number of programs you apply to). So just barf your application out there to every program you're interested in and see what happens.

 

[87DO15]

This gets asked all the time. You're not going to find a program that says "we do not accept DO graduates" on their website or on their FREIDA page. But the vast majority of programs (perhaps with the exception of the very top rated programs - UCSF, Hopkins, Columbia, Duke, etc) interview, rank and match DOs.

The best way to find DO friendly programs is to look at the match lists of your school (the Dean's office should give it to you) or the publicly posted lists on the websites of other DO schools (some will post it, others will not).
You can also look at the websites of programs you're interested in and see if they have DOs on their current house staff rosters. Again, you won't find this for every program but will for most.

Finally, you probably don't realize this yet, but applying to residency programs is dirt cheap compared to what you're used to. You can apply to 100 programs for ~$1200 (I'm too lazy to do the math myself but it's a graduated fee schedule based on the number of programs you apply to). So just barf your application out there to every program you're interested in and see what happens.

Well, at least one does. NYU Langone doesn't accept osteopathic applicants, but again, that's only 1/130+ university programs (+ all the community programs).

 

[DrWBD]

What allopathic programs are out there that will take DO students? I've been trying to search but I can't find any that have accepted DO students. Im just an MS2 about to be MS3 so I just need an slight idea of places to consider. What kind of hospitals would I need to look at (university or communit etc)? Id like to do a fellowship in GI so if you have any suggestions about getting in a allopathic GI fellowship as a DO that would be awesome.

Like gutonc mentioned, a good place to start is your school's match list. Also understand that all but the top programs will accept DOs into their Medicine programs.

As far as getting any competitive fellowship as a DO, the currently accepted wisdom is that you should find a program that accepts DOs into their fellowships. For a very competitive IM fellowship, your chance of matching to an outside program is much lower compared to your American MD peers.

In general, university programs are preferable to community programs for quality of training and post-residency opportunities, but many community programs can have good training and decent fellowship opportunities.

 

[gutonc]

Well, at least one does. NYU Langone doesn't accept osteopathic applicants, but again, that's only 1/130+ university programs (+ all the community programs).

That's actually hilarious. The more I hear and experience about that place (I nearly walked out of my fellowship interview because the PD was such a douchebag), the more it amazes me that they can recruit good people.

 

[87DO15]

That's actually hilarious. The more I hear and experience about that place (I nearly walked out of my fellowship interview because the PD was such a douchebag), the more it amazes me that they can recruit good people.

I'm guessing location prevails over all else...I've never been a big fan of NYC, but I know I'm in the minority...eh, what can you do?

 

[gutonc]

I'm guessing location prevails over all else...I've never been a big fan of NYC, but I know I'm in the minority...eh, what can you do?

True (although 11 years there I wanted out of NYC for residency and wanted to stay out for fellowship) but I can name 3 better programs in NYC without even thinking...and a dozen more that are easier to get into.