Any 27-29 MCAT with interviews????

[PinkIvy08]

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white males are the most discriminated against demographic in america today.

Not this nonsense again... Do you even know what discrimination is?!?
It could easily be argued that white males output the most discrimination in America (from the founding of our nation until right this very moment).

When I looked at acceptance rates for med schools in numerous books, do you know what I found? That at schools where the overall acceptance rate was between 6 and 7%, the acceptance rate for URMs was also between 6 and 7%! 😱 Therefore, spare me.

We are all roughing through the same admissions process, so stop pointing fingers for your own application's inadequacies.

[steps off soapbox]

Congrats to all those on here with good news!!!

 

[sustentacular]

white males are the most discriminated against demographic in america today.

Preach on white bread, as the child of 2 physicians I can only imagine your struggle.

my step dad is a hospitalist and makes 410,000 per year before taxes...in a place w/ a median cost of living (VA). I get his W2 for FAFSA..so i know. He does work a lot, but not more than usual...and all of the children are out of the house, so it's not a big deal since my mom is a physician too. Stick with it, and once things fall into place, you'll be making that money.

 

[MN premed]

Not this nonsense again... Do you even know what discrimination is?!?
It could easily be argued that white males output the most discrimination in America (from the founding of our nation until right this very moment).

When I looked at acceptance rates for med schools in numerous books, do you know what I found? That at schools where the overall acceptance rate was between 6 and 7%, the acceptance rate for URMs was also between 6 and 7%! 😱 Therefore, spare me.

We are all roughing through the same admissions process, so stop pointing fingers for your own application's inadequacies.

[steps off soapbox]

Congrats to all those on here with good news!!!

There's a clear advantage for URM's when looking at the AAMC statistics.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table25-w-mcatgpagridwhite.pdf (white applicant stats)

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table25-a-mcatgpagridasian.pdf (asian applicant stats)

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table25-h-mcatgpagridhispnic.pdf (hispanic applicant stats)

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/table25-b-mcatgpagridblack.pdf (black applicant stats)

 

[PinkIvy08]

There's a clear advantage for URM's when looking at the AAMC statistics...blah blah blah

Why do SDNers insist on constantly bringing everything in this app process back to this?!? This is not what this particular thread is for. If you're so preoccupied with this fallacy, go on one of the 100s of threads that have been started on this topic and continue your whining there. Or, go find the equivalent thread started on interview invites with <30 MCATs, with the stipulation of non-URM.
(I know yall bow to every word she says, so LizzyM Thread1 and Thread 2)

Back to the purpose of this thread...

 

[mybubbles14]

Why do SDNers insist on constantly bringing everything in this app process back to this?!? This is not what this particular thread is for. If you're so preoccupied with this fallacy, go on one of the 100s of threads that have been started on this topic and continue your whining there. Or, go find the equivalent thread started on interview invites with <30 MCATs, with the stipulation of non-URM.
(I know yall bow to every word she says, so LizzyM Thread1 and Thread 2)

Back to the purpose of this thread...

because we single-handedly take away all of the seats of every deserving applicant.....🙄

 

[reidmike]

QFT. Serious i couldnt say it better myself. For those like myself and reidmike with <30 mcats you have to play up something else about yourself that makes you stand out or so good or at least so interesting that they could care less about the mcat. For me I know that the reason im doing well despite my <30 mcat is because i played up the one part of my application that I know could really set me over the top. I didnt think it would help me as much as it did, but i mean from my PS to my secondary, i tried to tie in these few experiences and things to really set me apart.

Also just wanted to hopefully give someone some hope in that i just got my 1st acceptance despite my mcat! Hope to see more of you guys doing well and while i know its impossible, certainly keep your hopes up. As this thread shows mcat is not everything.

Hey Elijah...Congrats, man. I did the same as you....I couldn't erase my score, but I could play up what I had going for me; a high GPA & compelling life experiences & activities. You all have to be who YOU are. If you came this far, try and make them notice you. We all are special in our own way...you just have to shine!

 

[MN premed]

Why do SDNers insist on constantly bringing everything in this app process back to this?!? This is not what this particular thread is for. If you're so preoccupied with this fallacy, go on one of the 100s of threads that have been started on this topic and continue your whining there. Or, go find the equivalent thread started on interview invites with <30 MCATs, with the stipulation of non-URM.
(I know yall bow to every word she says, so LizzyM Thread1 and Thread 2)

Back to the purpose of this thread...

😕 I didn't whine, and I don't know who the "yall" is that you're generalizing about, but I don't bow to LizzyM. Anyways, I didn't bring the topic up. I check this thread because I am a 29 MCAT, and I just thought I should introduce the AAMC's actual statistics since you had stated that the admissions rate was the same for both URM and non-URM, which is not what I have seen. I won't argue about the fairness of it, and I'm not going to pretend like all schools do this for all applicants. But either way, there was no need to jump at my throat over me showing some statistics on it and lumping me into some group that you stereotype against.

 

[applicant3000]

28 MCAT (10 bio, 10 phy, 8 verbal). 3.65 GPA, 3.84 science GPA Interviewed at University of South Carolina (USC) and Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC). Accepted to MUSC, withdrew application from USC. 🙂

 

[7starmantis]

Why oh why must it be this way?

Before you can read me you gotta learn how to see me, I said....

 

[PinkIvy08]

😕 I didn't whine, and I don't know who the "yall" is that you're generalizing about, but I don't bow to LizzyM. Anyways, I didn't bring the topic up. I check this thread because I am a 29 MCAT, and I just thought I should introduce the AAMC's actual statistics since you had stated that the admissions rate was the same for both URM and non-URM, which is not what I have seen. I won't argue about the fairness of it, and I'm not going to pretend like all schools do this for all applicants. But either way, there was no need to jump at my throat over me showing some statistics on it and lumping me into some group that you stereotype against.

yall = SDNers. 90% of the ppl here seem to absolutely love her (don't get me wrong, she gives great advice and I appreciate it, I'm just saying...look at anything she's ever posted. Someone's always quick to chime in agreeing). And, school by school, % for URMs and nonURMs are nearly the same. Overall, acceptance rates per applicant might differ (refer to data you provided), but that's only b/c the pool of URM applicants is tiny.

28 MCAT (10 bio, 10 phy, 8 verbal). 3.65 GPA, 3.84 science GPA Interviewed at University of South Carolina (USC) and Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC). Accepted to MUSC, withdrew application from USC. 🙂

Congrats!!! My best friend goes there. Is VP of her class and absolutely loves it! I hear nothing but great things about it from her 🙂

 

[TaylorMDhopeful]

yall = SDNers. 90% of the ppl here seem to absolutely love her (don't get me wrong, she gives great advice and I appreciate it, I'm just saying...look at anything she's ever posted. Someone's always quick to chime in agreeing). And, school by school, % for URMs and nonURMs are nearly the same. Overall, acceptance rates per applicant might differ (refer to data you provided), but that's only b/c the pool of URM applicants is tiny.

AAMC data shows that even with the supposed "advantage" that URMs receive they still get in at a few percentage points lower than Caucasians (like 48%) and Asians (~46%). I believe that LizzyM showed that data in the last URM bashing thread to come up. People tend to try to connect AAMC lower GPA and MCAT avg for URMs with them getting in all over the country with lower stats (which is a piece of data that I have yet to see) while not doing their research on the topic like HBCU and Puerto Rican med school skewing of data, small sample size discrimination, high stat URMs and confounding factors like life experience, primary care need or disadvantaged status. There are more people from ORM groups getting into medical with what are considered lower stats just because of the sheer number of ORMs matriculating vs URMs matriculating and 8-9 URMs (generously) per class will not pull down the means of any school of ~150 students. Key point to take from this: Work on your own application and don't worry about anyone else's because firstly you don't know their full story (grades and MCAT scores don't tell it all and are not the only things evaluated) and secondly you can't change the minds of Adcom members who know the type of students they are looking for and are probably more qualified to judge applicants than us premeds are.

Congrats to everyone receiving interviews and acceptances!

 

[7starmantis]

I wear tight clothing, high heeled shoes

That doesn't mean that I'm a prostitute, no no

 

[Appless]

can we stop the urm thing? Dont think thats the point of this thread. You cant change URM status so who cares about any percieved advantaged or not. Focus on what you can improve and change 🙂.

 

[Hifey]

27 MCAT (unbalanced, I did well in verbal and bio but PS was horrible. it was (at least in my mind) slightly redeemed by the fact that I did well in Physics classes which I took AFTER the mcat), >3.6, complete in july and august. lots of clinical, leadership, and interesting life story. Non-URM/disadvantaged (not that I think these people have it easier in MD admissions but just for reference.)

Drexel, EVMS, Wake Forest, Wright State, University of Miami (both campuses).

I have attended all of these and made gotten waitlists or acceptance.


its possible so don't give up hope 🙂

 

[twila]

where did you apply?

O thanks for replying?

I applied to morehouse, vcu, vermont, albany, GWU, drexel, NYMC, Temple, and 5 wat the hells why not- BU, tufts, einstein, Nyu and Brown. I will say I got and interview at UNC coming up but the rest, not a peep from yet, I feel like maybe UNC got back to me so fast bcuz I went there idk, anyways wat do you think, do I have a shot having finished my apps so late? Or when should I be expecting to hear smthing? (O GWU and VCU put me on hold to be re-reviewed or smthing 😕 not sure what that actually means).

Thanks

 

[reidmike]

Just was accepted to my first in-state school! That makes 2 acceptances out of 5 interviews/invites with a 27 MCAT. Keep your hopes up!

 

[sustentacular]

O thanks for replying?

I applied to morehouse, vcu, vermont, albany, GWU, drexel, NYMC, Temple, and 5 wat the hells why not- BU, tufts, einstein, Nyu and Brown. I will say I got and interview at UNC coming up but the rest, not a peep from yet, I feel like maybe UNC got back to me so fast bcuz I went there idk, anyways wat do you think, do I have a shot having finished my apps so late? Or when should I be expecting to hear smthing? (O GWU and VCU put me on hold to be re-reviewed or smthing 😕 not sure what that actually means).

Thanks

My secondaries were complete in late August/early September and it's taking forever to get updates from schools. If they treat your ap like they're treating mine you will be waiting a while. We have applied to a number of the same schools so I'll share my experience with them so far..

GWU - first completed secondary, hold status within 2 weeks, no word since
VCU - "considering your file further" after 2 months of being in review, no updates since
Vermont - They tell you it could take 6-8 weeks for your initial review.. what they really mean is 11-13.
Drexel - still in review
NYMC - still in review
Albert Einstein - last secondary submitted, didn't get a "complete email" till early December, so I have little hope for this school as well.

It's pretty depressing to look through the school specific threads and see people who were complete after me getting interview invites so quickly. I really feel like none of the adcoms know what to do with my application so they've stuffed it behind a sofa somewhere.

 

[twila]

yea I guess mine was stuffed amidst the sofa right along with yours🙁, well I wish you all the best, hopefully we made the right decision with these schools...

My secondaries were complete in late August/early September and it's taking forever to get updates from schools. If they treat your ap like they're treating mine you will be waiting a while. We have applied to a number of the same schools so I'll share my experience with them so far..

GWU - first completed secondary, hold status within 2 weeks, no word since
VCU - "considering your file further" after 2 months of being in review, no updates since
Vermont - They tell you it could take 6-8 weeks for your initial review.. what they really mean is 11-13.
Drexel - still in review
NYMC - still in review
Albert Einstein - last secondary submitted, didn't get a "complete email" till early December, so I have little hope for this school as well.

It's pretty depressing to look through the school specific threads and see people who were complete after me getting interview invites so quickly. I really feel like none of the adcoms know what to do with my application so they've stuffed it behind a sofa somewhere.

 

[noalias]

Anyone trying to get this thread alive again? It was really helpful earlier, so ehhhyyeahhh let's start posting some thoughts.

27R/3.94 GPA/NonURM

Interviewed and WLed at:
EVMS (09/09 interview), still waiting, F2F meeting with adcom officer 06/22/10
VCU (10/09 interview), still waiting
GW (03/10 interview), still waiting

No love from:
UVA
VT Carilion
Howard
Drexel
Georgetown
Wake Forest

 

[prettylady]

any other stories to give us all hope?

 

[slmo321]

which type?

 

[auburnO5]

Isn't the average MCAT score like 25 or something? This thread seems kind of ridiculous.

SDN noobs, don't let the people here fool you. Not everyone scores a 35+.

 

[LRAccord624]

The average MCAT for all test takers is ~25. The average for people who matriculate is more like 30-31. However, it's an average because people get in with scores above AND below it. SDN drives me crazy sometimes bc it really does make it seem like everyone gets a 35+!

 

[LRAccord624]

any other stories to give us all hope?

The app cycle felt like hell for about 7 months. I had a semi low mcat (29O) and an average GPA. I received my first 2 interviews in October, then heard nothing until I was given the last or almost last interview date for three different schools in December. Then 2 interviews in February. I didn't hear anything whatsoever post interview until the Texas match in February, when I got in to
my first choice school. The wait was worth it!! With a 29, I interviewed at Baylor (WL) and Dartmouth (A!!). My ECs and life experience outweighed my numbers.

Good luck, try not to feel discouraged when people you know have gone on 374859 interviews and you haven't heard anything, and try not to check your email 99 times a day (no matter what anyone says, you will do this)

 

[LetsGo352]

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[Ischemic]

3.3/27 -- accepted to Georgetown and UTMemphis, interviewed at Meharry.

Also, people who say that white males are discriminated against should look at MSAR and realize that whites make up, on average, 50-60% of med school matriculants. The system isn't perfect or may not make sense but it does work... just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it's broken.

 

[TACMON]

The average MCAT for all test takers is ~25. The average for people who matriculate is more like 30-31. However, it's an average because people get in with scores above AND below it. SDN drives me crazy sometimes bc it really does make it seem like everyone gets a 35+!

Unless you see a score report, I wouldn't believe some of the scores posted on this site. Sure, some people work really hard and do acheive those scores. But on the internet a nobody is a somebody.

 

[mz1986]

just noticed something that is freaking me out.
I got an A in General Biology, but a C- in the General Biology Lab. Does that mean that I did not complete the prereqs??

 

[Longshanks]

just noticed something that is freaking me out.
I got an A in General Biology, but a C- in the General Biology Lab. Does that mean that I did not complete the prereqs??

Yes you completed the pre-reqs, but a C- may warrant a retake. If you already applied, don't worry about it. Hopefully the rest of your application makes up for it and you are a compelling applicant. One poor class grade won't tank you - a repeat offender will.

 

[scaredstudent]

So I got my MCAT score yesterday and after 6 months of studying I got a 27Q (10 PS, 7 VR, 10 BS). My GPA is 3.46 and BCPM 3.39. I have great ECs. I really dont want to take the mcat again because I feel like this might be the best I can do and am afraid that my score will only go down. I would like to apply for this cycle. Any advice? Should I even bother?

 

[longwhorn]

I would just apply, worst case you don't get in this year and have to apply again next year. At least your giving yourself a chance by applying. Plus, you'll get some "this guy really wants to be a doc" sympathy from adcoms when they see you're applying for a second time. Maybe..

 

[OneMCATAway]

So I got my MCAT score yesterday and after 6 months of studying I got a 27Q (10 PS, 7 VR, 10 BS). My GPA is 3.46 and BCPM 3.39. I have great ECs. I really dont want to take the mcat again because I feel like this might be the best I can do and am afraid that my score will only go down. I would like to apply for this cycle. Any advice? Should I even bother?

The rest of your application is gonna have to make up for it, apply broadly and to schools where you think you would be a good match, write some rocking essays and do everything early -its definitely a possibility good luck

 

[SamuelTesla]

For those of you who took a late august mcat and applied the same year, do you know if it matters if we complete the secondaries before the mcat results are released?

 

[LRAccord624]

For those of you who took a late august mcat and applied the same year, do you know if it matters if we complete the secondaries before the mcat results are released?

Some schools will not send you their secondary without an MCAT score, but for the ones that you already have access to, you should complete them asap. You're already going to be late so you should get as much finished as possible now.

 

[SamuelTesla]

Some schools will not send you their secondary without an MCAT score, but for the ones that you already have access to, you should complete them asap. You're already going to be late so you should get as much finished as possible now.

thanks! that's exactly what I expected...

 

[FutureOncDoc]

I had a 27N (10BS 7PS 10VR) MCAT and I tried taking it again and I just got the scores back and it fell to a 25O. I am super bummed. I was getting in the 30s on my practice tests but I could tell the actual MCAT was a lot harder and I thought about not having it scored but then decided maybe I would surprise myself...which obviously didn't happen. I already sent all of my primaries in and I have received some secondaries but haven't sent them in yet because now I don't know if I even have a shot. Should I withdrawl my application? cGPA: 3.7 sGPA: 3.63.
I have good volunteer/leadership/abroad/recommendations and I am doing special masters program starting next month so I can get an update sent out mid-semester. Anyone else have any luck with similar stats? Does it look really really bad that my MCAT fell the second time around. Should I just wait and reapply next summer after retaking the test again?

 

[Fabio001]

oncdoc,
I know that there are a at least a handful of medical schools that really only look at your highest MCAT score. I know there are at least a couple that look at your highest score in each section. I would say go ahead and apply. I think you're very likely to get into a DO if nothing else.

 

[MDNM15]

I have a 28R (3.86 cGPA, sGPA 3.88) - I took two undergrad post bac classes over the summer so the TMSDAS/AMCAS show different calculations (higher since I got A's, but I use these numbers because they were before I graduated). I have some good EC's, but I am still actively shadowing/volunteering (even though NOW medical schools won't know this since I already submitted). I just wish this process wasn't so hard! I should be proud of a 28, yet all I can think of it..why couldn't I get a 30! Ugh!!!

 

[justdoit31]

II have some good EC's, but I am still actively shadowing/volunteering (even though NOW medical schools won't know this since I already submitted). I just wish this process wasn't so hard! I should be proud of a 28, yet all I can think of it..why couldn't I get a 30! Ugh!!!

You can always send an update letter.

Stay positive everyone... I got in with a 27 during my 1st application cycle- be in contact with the schools you are most interested in on a regular basis and express your interests.

 

[LetsGo352]

You can always send an update letter.

Stay positive everyone... I got in with a 27 during my 1st application cycle- be in contact with the schools you are most interested in on a regular basis and express your interests.

Aside from actual updates, do schools really like it to sent letters of interest? Seems kinda awkward to me.

 

[DoctorDude]

I got an interview with a 28. Although I just received my 2nd MCAT score (32 🙂 ). But yes, it is very possible to get interviews with sub 30 mcat, provided you have a good gpa and other experiences to fall back on (with good PS and LORS too).

 

[metalgirl14]

I have a 27 and so far, I have one MD interview and 2 DO interviews.

 

[MDNM15]

You can always send an update letter.

Stay positive everyone... I got in with a 27 during my 1st application cycle- be in contact with the schools you are most interested in on a regular basis and express your interests.

Sorry if this sounds like I am a bit stupid, but have no idea what I am doing here - when you say keep in contact, how do you mean? (ie: after an interview, before the interview, etc).

Thanks for the encouragement, need it!!! 🙂 🙂

 

[MDNM15]

I have a 27 and so far, I have one MD interview and 2 DO interviews.

Congrats!!! 🙂 That gives me some hope

 

[ad88]

don't lose hope just because you didn't break the infamous 30! I got a 29 and I have 7 interviews so far (4 MD and 3 DO) my advice: APPLY EARLY

 

[glasshalfMD]

29 here - and my first interview today! (MD)

 

[Fitzgerald]

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[lizzydarcy]

Did anyone do a post-bacc or master's program to enhance their med school app?

I am currently doing a master's in biomed science and the program has about 80% of their students going onto med school each year...

my undergrad gpa is a 3.3 and second mcat was 29R... I was hoping that the mcat would at least be 30... but it looks like there's hope for MD schools??

 

[curlytop]

Did anyone do a post-bacc or master's program to enhance their med school app?

I am currently doing a master's in biomed science and the program has about 80% of their students going onto med school each year...

my undergrad gpa is a 3.3 and second mcat was 29R... I was hoping that the mcat would at least be 30... but it looks like there's hope for MD schools??

There's definitely hope if you apply early and broadly. Spend your effort enhancing experiences/areas of your app that make you unique; not all of us can be MCAT superstars (I'm not).

 

[AutumnChild]

Did anyone do a post-bacc or master's program to enhance their med school app?

I am currently doing a master's in biomed science and the program has about 80% of their students going onto med school each year...

my undergrad gpa is a 3.3 and second mcat was 29R... I was hoping that the mcat would at least be 30... but it looks like there's hope for MD schools??

I did an SMP last year to help my application this time around. Third cycle for me. 5 DO interviews and 1 MD. First interview in 2 weeks! You definitely have hope for MD schools. 1 point on MCAT actually makes a difference and you'll have that master's under your belt. Just make sure you perfom well and have solid experiences.