Any 27-29 MCAT with interviews????

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I thought Jonas Hiller was the best goalkeeper in the world...wait wait, I believe we're talking about two different sports.

I have a ton of admiration for professional goalies, but then that's because I play that position and I can imagine what they go through...

Hey RecyclingBinh! In answer to your question you left on your MDApp, I will look to put up my own after I get my MCAT score, which like you, will be in a matter of days...or hours.
 
Is there a list of MD schools somewhere that are friendly to people with lower MCATS?

If not, could somebody be so kind as to compile a list? 🙂
 
premedmind said:
Is there a list of MD schools somewhere that are friendly to people with lower MCATS?

If not, could somebody be so kind as to compile a list? 🙂
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lol I don't think many schools seek out students with lower stats specifically...but some schools may place more value on specific other parts of your app ie. minority or disadvantaged status or maybe even undergrad institution.
 
Well, I guess I'm one of the luck ones. I got a 28 on the mcat with a 7 in verbal and luckily got an interview from the Medical College of Georgia (my EDP school). Then again, I do have a 3.99 cGPA and 3.98 sGPA and a good bit of the expected stuff - shadowing, research, leadership, community service, etc.
 
Amadelphous said:
lol I don't think many schools seek out students with lower stats specifically...but some schools may place more value on specific other parts of your app ie. minority or disadvantaged status or maybe even undergrad institution.
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Some adcoms seek out students who are most likely to attend their school.
 
I got 1 interview with a 26 on my mcat last year. I got accepted without being place on the waitlist. I had to deferred to 2010 (medical reason) but them important thing is I GOT IN WITH A 26!
My friend a year before got in with a 27 to the same school. SO dont lose hope people!

TopSecret said:
Some adcoms seek out students who are most likely to attend their school.
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very true, the school that i will being going to like kids that they think will go to their school. they are more likely to give out interview to a kid with a 28 then one with a 38.
 
TopSecret said:
Some adcoms seek out students who are most likely to attend their school.
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Very true TopSecret. I stand corrected. I guess a better way to put it is that each school is looking for their "fit" students...and that definitely varies from school to school.
 
Amadelphous said:
Very true TopSecret. I stand corrected. I guess a better way to put it is that each school is looking for their "fit" students...and that definitely varies from school to school.
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Adcoms who go after students who are most likely to attend their school reduce the number of interviews they have to give (saves the med school faculty a lot of time) and the paperwork associated with reviewing applications and contacting students to fill all available seats. Why waste time interviewing people who will most likely go elsewhere? I'm sure they keep track of statistics regarding who goes where with what numbers.
 
Well, I just saw my MCAT score...and it was quite unpleasant. And...it's official, I am now a part of this demographic:

PS 11
BS 10
VR 6
W R
That's a 27R. Of all the sections to bomb, and to bomb royally, it's VR...which from the get go, I got 10s quite consistently, with a smattering of 11s, with one 9, and one 8.

Bummed, bummed, bummed.
 
TopSecret said:
Adcoms who go after students who are most likely to attend their school reduce the number of interviews they have to give (saves the med school faculty a lot of time) and the paperwork associated with reviewing applications and contacting students to fill all available seats. Why waste time interviewing people who will most likely go elsewhere? I'm sure they keep track of statistics regarding who goes where with what numbers.
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do you know which adcoms fall into this category?
 
:xf::xf:you people give me hope for this cycle. Pray for me guys. :xf::xf:
 
casillas said:
He's only the best goal keeper in the world. 😉
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Bah, Artur Boruc is the best keeper in the world 😉

Though he had a crap season last year, hopefully he comes back around to his '06-'08 form.
 
Longshanks said:
Bah, Artur Boruc is the best keeper in the world 😉

Though he had a crap season last year, hopefully he comes back around to his '06-'08 form.
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I've never seen him play. I will look out for him in the future. But i am pretty sure he can't beat Iker. (looks 😍 or game 😛)
 
casillas said:
I've never seen him play. I will look out for him in the future. But i am pretty sure he can't beat Iker. (looks 😍 or game 😛)
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Haha. Well, I won't be the judge of that one. Boruc plays for Celtic and is Poland's keeper, though we had to bump up Fabianski when Boruc was having some issues in the spring.
 
premedmind said:
Is there a list of MD schools somewhere that are friendly to people with lower MCATS?

If not, could somebody be so kind as to compile a list? 🙂
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Don't have an official list, but MSAR details the median MCAT scores for each school.
 
I am joining this thread, I have a 27N and I am applying. I applied early I already finished 6 schools, and waiting for 3 more secondaries. I will keep up with everyone hopefully we will get in


😕class of 2014 i just dont know where yet!
 
what about low GPAs like 3.4-3.6 with 30-32 MCAT?
not to be controversial but does race sometimes plays a factor in acceptance
 
BrokenDisco said:
what about low GPAs like 3.4-3.6 with 30-32 MCAT?
not to be controversial but does race sometimes plays a factor in acceptance
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With a matriculate mean of 3.6, the range 3.4-3.6 is not low; nor is the MCAT range 30-32, which is above average.
 
MN premed said:
Wow, that ticks me off. The color of my skin gives me a 76% chance instead of an extremely solid 91.2% chance of getting in somewhere. That's so stupid
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Don't think of as your race working against you...it's just that the applicant pool is bigger. If you get an interview invite and the adcom likes you they won't NOT pick you because of your race. It's just that adcoms try to meet some kind of URM quota because the URM MD percentage doesn't represent the national representation.

Sadly the competition is tough on everyone, but for schools trying to meet a quota they don't have many URMs to choose from so those applicants are definitely more likely to get in somewhere.
 
29O, 3.7 GPA. Oregon resident. Interviewed and accepted to OHSU, USF, Michigan State. Interviewed and waitlisted at Georgetown. It's not all about the numbers...Be sincere and show passion. Good luck this year guys!
 
3.3 and 27, accepted.
 
MN premed said:
Wow, that ticks me off. The color of my skin gives me a 76% chance instead of an extremely solid 91.2% chance of getting in somewhere. That's so stupid
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Do you think it's reverse discrimination?
 
Amadelphous said:
Don't think of as your race working against you...it's just that the applicant pool is bigger. If you get an interview invite and the adcom likes you they won't NOT pick you because of your race. It's just that adcoms try to meet some kind of URM quota because the URM MD percentage doesn't represent the national representation.

Sadly the competition is tough on everyone, but for schools trying to meet a quota they don't have many URMs to choose from so those applicants are definitely more likely to get in somewhere.
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It's a sad state of affairs when qualified applicants are rejected because of a racial quota.
 
i find it interesting that self-identified blacks enjoy a 100% acceptance rate with an mcat that is 36+. i'm not for or against it, just an observation.
 
bleargh said:
i find it interesting that self-identified blacks enjoy a 100% acceptance rate with an mcat that is 36+. i'm not for or against it, just an observation.
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In a color blind admissions process, their statistical averages should be the same as anyone else.

Also, if patients were to discover that admissions standards were lowered for URM's, how would that help the URM students?
 
MN premed said:
Wow, that ticks me off. The color of my skin gives me a 76% chance instead of an extremely solid 91.2% chance of getting in somewhere. That's so stupid
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If it's any consolation, if URMs and non-URMs were given the same acceptance rates, you'd have like a 78% chance instead of a 76% chance. (Note: I didn't actually calculate the percentages, but my point is that the actual number of extra acceptances is very small, even if the percentage differences are large.)

For lower GPAs and MCAT this does not hold true.
 
TopSecret said:
In a color blind admissions process, their statistical averages should be the same as anyone else.

Also, if patients were to discover that admissions standards were lowered for URM's, how would that help the URM students?
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a factor to consider though, is that the population URM students represent are underserved as a whole. increasing URM acceptance should at least in theory be a part of remedying this problem. if i recall correctly, i read some study once that claimed a disproportionate number of minorities tended to return to serve their communities despite the pay differences.

additionally, it should be said that we don't start this "game" on a level playing field. a URM student with lower tangible stats may not be actually less able than a non-URM student, if there is such a thing as intrinsic ability; that is to say, should these two have started on equal terms, the URM student would achieve just as highly by objective terms.
 
bleargh said:
a factor to consider though, is that the population URM students represent are underserved as a whole. increasing URM acceptance should at least in theory be a part of remedying this problem. if i recall correctly, i read some study once that claimed a disproportionate number of minorities tended to return to serve their communities despite the pay differences.

additionally, it should be said that we don't start this "game" on a level playing field. a URM student with lower tangible stats may not be actually less able than a non-URM student, if there is such a thing as intrinsic ability; that is to say, should these two have started on equal terms, the URM student would achieve just as highly by objective terms.
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If schools accept URM students based on the assumption that there is a higher probability that URM students will serve the underserved, then they could come up with a contract for non-URM students.

In exchange for a lower admissions standard, the non-URM students could serve the underserved population for an x number of years or be fined a y amount of dollars for breach of contract. Why base admissions policy on an assumption?
 
bleargh said:
additionally, it should be said that we don't start this "game" on a level playing field. a URM student with lower tangible stats may not be actually less able than a non-URM student, if there is such a thing as intrinsic ability; that is to say, should these two have started on equal terms, the URM student would achieve just as highly by objective terms.
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I'm liberal-minded, and people here have seen that, but I have to disagree with this. If you really want to be "fair" and have "equity" in the admissions process, I can understand affirmative action policies and quotas for undergraduate admissions, as there are still very large discrepancies educational quality and funding at the elementary and high school level. However, after reaching college, and going through the same process as everyone else and the same resources (and in some cases extra resources for minority/economically disadvantaged students, such as the NYU EOP program where minority students take their first semester over the summer, just for the experience, and then get to take those same courses again during the fall, giving them an advantageous position over their peers) it should be a level playing field. We've all taken the same classes in college, have the same opportunities open to us at college, and should have taken advantage of those opportunities. Yes, the admissions process is more than just numbers, and it should be, but it should equally be a color blind process seeking out those who would be the best physicians, no matter what their race or creed is. I don't mean that to sound like a white non-hispanic would be better qualified, in fact in my own anecdotal work experience I've been far more impressed by URM residents and students while finding some white residents to be extremely lazy or have a poor attitude towards their patients, which are not positive qualities for a physician to possess.

I simply feel that after going through undergraduate, we've all been presented with the same opportunities and have jumped through the same hoops during our undergraduate careers, and the admissions process should be fair game at that point.

edit: I don't want to derail a very positive thread here. This topic was brought up and just putting in my 2cents. Best of luck to the under 30s applying this year!
 
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Longshanks said:
I'm liberal-minded, and people here have seen that, but I have to disagree with this. If you really want to be "fair" and have "equity" in the admissions process, I can understand affirmative action policies and quotas for undergraduate admissions, as there are still very large discrepancies educational quality and funding at the elementary and high school level. However, after reaching college, and going through the same process as everyone else and the same resources (and in some cases extra resources for minority/economically disadvantaged students, such as the NYU EOP program where minority students take their first semester over the summer, just for the experience, and then get to take those same courses again during the fall, giving them an advantageous position over their peers) it should be a level playing field. We've all taken the same classes in college, have the same opportunities open to us at college, and should have taken advantage of those opportunities. Yes, the admissions process is more than just numbers, and it should be, but it should equally be a color blind process seeking out those who would be the best physicians, no matter what their race or creed is. I don't mean that to sound like a white non-hispanic would be better qualified, in fact in my own anecdotal work experience I've been far more impressed by URM residents and students while finding some white residents to be extremely lazy or have a poor attitude towards their patients, which are not positive qualities for a physician to possess.

I simply feel that after going through undergraduate, we've all been presented with the same opportunities and have jumped through the same hoops during our undergraduate careers, and the admissions process should be fair game at that point.

edit: I don't want to derail a very positive thread here. This topic was brought up and just putting in my 2cents. Best of luck to the under 30s applying this year!
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While I agree to some extent, I just wanted to note that the experience still isn't the same for everyone by any means. I don't think it's just a stereotype that many pre-meds come from fairly wealthy families, or at least well-enough off that they don't need to work (at least not extensively). I personally have had to pay my own way, and am lucky that since I'm now 24 my financial aid is based on my own income.

Nonetheless, just the experience of paying for MCAT prep materials, the test itself, and eventually applications/interviews has been and will be extremely taxing on me. Not to mention that there's absolutely no way I could afford to pay for a prep class (not that I think they're necessary). There's no financial aid for any of that. Fortunately I'm lucky enough that my parents have come around enough to at least loan me the money I need for these expenses. I'm not sure what your background is, but I can say from experience that just the looming shadow of money concerns can be extremely taxing.

Just my two cents.
 
CRB said:
29O, 3.7 GPA. Oregon resident. Interviewed and accepted to OHSU, USF, Michigan State. Interviewed and waitlisted at Georgetown. It's not all about the numbers...Be sincere and show passion. Good luck this year guys!
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USF? impressive
 
vinniekan said:
USF? impressive
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All of those are awesome schools. But then again, there isn't a school in the US that I don't consider an "awesome" school. Some are just better fits than others. I can't honestly imagine myself in many other places but where I am now.
 
Longshanks said:
I'm liberal-minded, and people here have seen that, but I have to disagree with this. If you really want to be "fair" and have "equity" in the admissions process, I can understand affirmative action policies and quotas for undergraduate admissions, as there are still very large discrepancies educational quality and funding at the elementary and high school level. However, after reaching college, and going through the same process as everyone else and the same resources (and in some cases extra resources for minority/economically disadvantaged students, such as the NYU EOP program where minority students take their first semester over the summer, just for the experience, and then get to take those same courses again during the fall, giving them an advantageous position over their peers) it should be a level playing field. We've all taken the same classes in college, have the same opportunities open to us at college, and should have taken advantage of those opportunities. Yes, the admissions process is more than just numbers, and it should be, but it should equally be a color blind process seeking out those who would be the best physicians, no matter what their race or creed is. I don't mean that to sound like a white non-hispanic would be better qualified, in fact in my own anecdotal work experience I've been far more impressed by URM residents and students while finding some white residents to be extremely lazy or have a poor attitude towards their patients, which are not positive qualities for a physician to possess.

I simply feel that after going through undergraduate, we've all been presented with the same opportunities and have jumped through the same hoops during our undergraduate careers, and the admissions process should be fair game at that point.

edit: I don't want to derail a very positive thread here. This topic was brought up and just putting in my 2cents. Best of luck to the under 30s applying this year!
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the truth is far from this IMO. in my experience, i was helped TREMENDOUSLY in both college and beyond from the lifetime of advantaged learning i received. college is can't make up for this difference. i took a class on a related subject and here's some food for thought - when controlled for socioeconomic status, african americans still score SIGNIFICANTLY less on the SATs than white students. VERY interesting phenomenon.
 
bleargh said:
the truth is far from this IMO. in my experience, i was helped TREMENDOUSLY in both college and beyond from the lifetime of advantaged learning i received. college is can't make up for this difference. i took a class on a related subject and here's some food for thought - when controlled for socioeconomic status, african americans still score SIGNIFICANTLY less on the SATs than white students. VERY interesting phenomenon.
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I still think that whites/asians/etc. from poor backgrounds and African Americans from poor backgrounds should be treated the same...
 
I posted on this thread last year when I got an interview with a 27 MCAT. It ended in a waitlist by the way...

Not to burst your bubble, but you will only be getting MD interviews with a 27-29 MCAT if you meet one of the three criteria:

1) You're a minority: Native American, African American, or Hispanic
2) You have a nice state school, which is how I got my interview
3) You are a nontraditional applicant

#3 is not as good as the first 2, though. By #3 I mean you are like late 20s and had another career established for a good amount of time. Adcoms like ppl coming in with diverse backgrounds. At the sametime, I think it's harder for nontraditionals to prove they aren't just switching to medicine for a better lifestyle.
 
rocketbooster said:
I posted on this thread last year when I got an interview with a 27 MCAT. It ended in a waitlist by the way...

Not to burst your bubble, but you will only be getting MD interviews with a 27-29 MCAT if you meet one of the three criteria:

1) You're a minority: Native American, African American, or Hispanic
2) You have a nice state school, which is how I got my interview
3) You are a nontraditional applicant

#3 is not as good as the first 2, though. By #3 I mean you are like late 20s and had another career established for a good amount of time. Adcoms like ppl coming in with diverse backgrounds. At the sametime, I think it's harder for nontraditionals to prove they aren't just switching to medicine for a better lifestyle.
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I disprove this post.
 
Schemp said:
While I agree to some extent, I just wanted to note that the experience still isn't the same for everyone by any means. I don't think it's just a stereotype that many pre-meds come from fairly wealthy families, or at least well-enough off that they don't need to work (at least not extensively). I personally have had to pay my own way, and am lucky that since I'm now 24 my financial aid is based on my own income.

Nonetheless, just the experience of paying for MCAT prep materials, the test itself, and eventually applications/interviews has been and will be extremely taxing on me. Not to mention that there's absolutely no way I could afford to pay for a prep class (not that I think they're necessary). There's no financial aid for any of that. Fortunately I'm lucky enough that my parents have come around enough to at least loan me the money I need for these expenses. I'm not sure what your background is, but I can say from experience that just the looming shadow of money concerns can be extremely taxing.

Just my two cents.
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I understand that and can agree with what you've said. Being able to balance school while funding yourself, and doing all the ECs that need to be done for this process, its a true display of dedication and committment.

Economic situation should have a greater bearing than race/ethnicity, and luckily that is taken into account for with AMCAS. It is possible the AAMC data gets skewed, since I don't believe there's a table based on personal finance. Finances have a larger impact on neighborhoods/communities, and early schooling, than race IMHO, since anyone would perform better and have more opportunities presented if they went to a stronger funded school, while someone at a poorly funded school would equally lag in their education in comparison to their 'better-off-to-do' peers.
 
Siverhideo1985 said:
I disprove this post.
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okay, find out for yourself, then! good luck! if you do get multiple interviews, then you need to be perfect in the other areas (i.e. super high GPA, excellent ECs, etc.) without meeting one of those 3 criteria.

why do you disprove?
 
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