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I have to think about new plan to reapply for 2006.
I don't know how to improve myself during this time.
it's April already. I have wasted so much time already being waitlisted. and i know i have to do something....
have no idea what to do.
I am graduating in June.
little late to apply for graduate program. ( I was almost trying to take GRE in two weeks but I realized I didn't have enough time)
should I find a dental office to have work experience?
my stats is not bad. GPA 3.2-3.3 DAT 21/20/18
I have tried to ask interviewers why I was not accepted...but they didn't really help...
what should I do..
any advice will be appreciated~~
 
Your stats are good enough to get in if you apply early (May, June, July)! If I were you, I'd apply right in May. I wouldn't retake the DAT or take anymore classes (unless you think there is room for improvement).

If you don't think you can get new LORs, consider speaking with the ppl who wrote your first ones ASAP. Maybe they still have a copy of your letter and they can just change the date?

Try writing a new essay. Maybe you've had some significant experiences this past year that could make you stand out.

Keep shadowing a dentist. The more experience you get, the better. It could make for good writing material on the essay and can be a topic of conversation during interviews.

Look into schools that you could realistically get into. http://www.adea.org/links/default.htm has a list of all the schools' websites, which is helpful.

You seem to be on the right track. I feel that you don't have to do much to reapply. I am confident you will get in if you reapply in May. Consider applying to 7-10 schools, especially ones that have larger class sizes and take out-of-state students as well.

Best of luck to you! :luck:
 
Sorry to hear about not getting in. 🙁 That sucks.

You should probably try to get a job with a dentist. And if that doesn't work out, then try to get a job in a related research field and intern with a dentist. Next year, apply EARLY and it should be enough to get in?

Good luck!
 
The last post offered some very good solid advice.

To reiterate: apply EARLY. It can't be stressed enough how important this step is... maybe the most important one.

Also, like the last post indicated, maybe have your essay re-written. It seems our fellow SDN moderator (Gavin) at one point was offering to help pre-dents with their personal statement. It's mighty nice if he has time.

Your DAT scores seem solid, so I wouldn't touch them, but I may consider taking some extra upper div science classes to strenghten your application. Not sure if the last post offered this advice (didn't read the whole post).
If you haven't taken Anatomy, Physiology, Biochem, Micro, Genetics, Histolgy, etc, then I would consider starting this summer and continuing through the Fall.
I wish you luck in the future!!
 
IWuvTeef said:
If you don't think you can get new LORs, consider speaking with the ppl who wrote your first ones ASAP. Maybe they still have a copy of your letter and they can just change the date?

I'm not 100% sure the date matters. All of my LORs were from 2003 and I wasn't asked by any of my interviewers about them.
 
Ruprick said:
I'm not 100% sure the date matters. All of my LORs were from 2003 and I wasn't asked by any of my interviewers about them.

Sweet! That's definetly good to know. I always wondered if you needed current ones...

Looks like it's just getting easier jinnie! 😛
 
IWuvTeef said:
Sweet! That's definetly good to know. I always wondered if you needed current ones...

Looks like it's just getting easier jinnie! 😛

Thanks for all encouragement...

by the way, i don't have any copy of LORs
should I ask the same ppl who wrote me last year?
bad news-- I got C+ on my biochem lab.....this quarter.
i guess i couldn't concentrate well during waiting period after all the interview.
 
jinniechoi said:
Thanks for all encouragement...

by the way, i don't have any copy of LORs
should I ask the same ppl who wrote me last year?
bad news-- I got C+ on my biochem lab.....this quarter.
i guess i couldn't concentrate well during waiting period after all the interview.

don't sweat over isolated bad grades... nothing you can do about it now... but old LORs are ok I'm pretty sure, I had one LOR from like my 2nd year in college and I used it... it all worked out ok.

good luck on your re apps!
 
jinniechoi said:
I have to think about new plan to reapply for 2006.
I don't know how to improve myself during this time.
it's April already. I have wasted so much time already being waitlisted. and i know i have to do something....
have no idea what to do.
I am graduating in June.
little late to apply for graduate program. ( I was almost trying to take GRE in two weeks but I realized I didn't have enough time)
should I find a dental office to have work experience?
my stats is not bad. GPA 3.2-3.3 DAT 21/20/18
I have tried to ask interviewers why I was not accepted...but they didn't really help...
what should I do..
any advice will be appreciated~~

I was basically in the same spot you are in last year. I applied with roughly the same GPA and DAT scores as you and wasn't accepted anywhere. Here's what I did:

1) Found a job near the school and began making "connections". Spend enough time there and you'll find out who the Dr.'s are that can get things done for you. Find any way you can to talk to them...this takes some research. Look for articles they've published, what they are interested in, what they are teaching, etc. Then, go find some info/questions to present to them. This gives you a reason to talk to them and provides an opportunity to "plead your case" as to why you are good for their program. I had "interviewed" with 4 members of the board before I had my actual interview this year. It definitely helps to have half of the board as your "advocates" instead of just your interviewer.

2) I took some upper division courses while working (I graduated in '03, so I had to take 2 yrs. off!!!). Neurophysiology, Biomedical ethics, etc., etc. You won't change to GPA, but it helps give them a reason to accept you once you get your interview. It gives them a chance to "overlook" your previous scores, and that's all you want at this point...a chance.

3) I worked at a hospital. I think it's a good idea to find something where you are working with patients. It shows you have the intrapersonal skills for dentists and enjoy being in a patient care setting.

4) Stay in CLOSE contact with the people you meet. Dean of Admissions, Dean of the school, your "connections", etc. Make sure you send thank you cards to anyone who is helping you along the way. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. The Dean of Admissions is a particulary important person, as usually he/she is in control of whether or not you get an interview. You need to make sure he know's how much you want to go to "his/her" school and why you are qualified. Again, you must "plead your case" to this person.

5) Volunteer your time. If you can, do it at the school. Many schools have programs there for you and would love for you to help out, for free.

It will be a busy year, but trust me, it's well worth it. Like I said, I didn't get in ANYWHERE last year. 2 waitlist spots for me. This year, I applied to 10 schools, was accepted to 3 (one was my #1 choice) and withdrew the rest. I had set up interviews at a couple others as well. Good luck to you, in the scheme of things, one more year is nothing.
 
Yup fish is right. Connections can work wonders. Polish up your charm and put it to good use. The Dean of Admissions of most schools can arbitrarily extend interview invites to anyone in the applicant pool, as can many lodged faculty members with "flex". Having an "in" with members on the admission panel obviously helps come vote time.
 
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