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You're going to get a biased response based on the fact that you put a specific type in your question. I on the other hand came by because I was just daydreaming about MBTI and wanted to share some of my recent thoughts.
I think that I am an ENTP but here are a couple of things about the MBTI that might make some of you change your minds. I have also seen myself as an INTP at times as well. Both have the same cognitive functions but in different orders.
1. By definition, you must actually use the MBTI to get accurate MBTI results. It's $150...I haven't used it and am not planning to so my type is just an educated guess. All the other tests out there are useless and work using generalities.
2. The idea that MBTI is just a question for four dichotomies is false. Your MBTI assignment (ex. INFJ) then serves to assign you 8 cognitive functions in a order. The most important are the first two and their sequence is different for each type. For example, INFJ's leading function in Introverted Intuition followed by Extroverted Feeling as their secondary function. No other type has that sequence so if you do the math, ____8 cognitive functions___ X ____2 possibilities remaining X ___1 possibility__ X___1 possibility___ = 16 possible types.
3. Categorizing functions:
Extroverted vs. Introverted: Extroverted refers to how an individual gets his or her fuel to perform the cognitive function from, not from whether one is a people person or a nerd.
Intuition vs Sensory: Defined as a PERCEPTIVE function as opposed to a JUDGING one. Either you're Intuition Dominant or Sensory Dominants. Intuition refers to the ability to pattern-seek while sensory refers to the ability to perceive something as it is through the five senses.
Thinking vs. Feeling: Defined as a JUDGING function as opposed to a PERCEPTIVE one. Most can get a sense of this from their own preconceived notions of the two words.
So for example, Introverted Intuition is a cognitive function that facilitates the ability to understand by foreseeing implications, likely effects, and the ability to grasp and get a sense of a pattern or plan. Also, Introverted Intuition is used for rectifying contradictions. Extroverted Intuition on the other hand is a cognitive function that facilitates the ability to understand by interpreting situations, relationships, pickup interconnections to other contexts. Extroverted Intuition is also used for finding different paths or methods to solve things. According to what is self reported, many on here seem to classify themselves as INTJs/INFJs. This would mean that Introverted Intuition is their leading cognitive function which could make sense as the INTJ is supposed to be the archetypal scientist.
4. You can predict the order of cognitive functions through this algorithm which I have recently come up with (or you can look them up):
a.) E or I? If E, then your 1st and 3rd functions or extroverted and your 2nd are 4th are introverted. Vice versa for I.
b.) IJ/EP OR EJ/IP? If IJ/EP then first and last functions are perceiving functions and the middle are judging. If EJ/IP, then middle are perceiving and first and last are judging.
c.) T or F? If T, place T in the first or second position depending on results from previous step. If F, place F in the first of second position depending on results from previous step.
d.) Now you should have first four functions. To figure out the rest, simply take the same functions and repeat them but switch all introverted and extroverted functions.
If anyone is interested in discussing:
-the validity and/or accuracy of the MBTI in predicting an individual's personality and/or character
-why the algorithm which I have devised works
-how to make an accurate MBTI given the difficulty or ranking 8 cognitive functions.
-feels that they have better definitions for terms I have used
-the framework/context in which MBTI can be used
-what they would type me
please message me!
I think that I am an ENTP but here are a couple of things about the MBTI that might make some of you change your minds. I have also seen myself as an INTP at times as well. Both have the same cognitive functions but in different orders.
1. By definition, you must actually use the MBTI to get accurate MBTI results. It's $150...I haven't used it and am not planning to so my type is just an educated guess. All the other tests out there are useless and work using generalities.
2. The idea that MBTI is just a question for four dichotomies is false. Your MBTI assignment (ex. INFJ) then serves to assign you 8 cognitive functions in a order. The most important are the first two and their sequence is different for each type. For example, INFJ's leading function in Introverted Intuition followed by Extroverted Feeling as their secondary function. No other type has that sequence so if you do the math, ____8 cognitive functions___ X ____2 possibilities remaining X ___1 possibility__ X___1 possibility___ = 16 possible types.
3. Categorizing functions:
Extroverted vs. Introverted: Extroverted refers to how an individual gets his or her fuel to perform the cognitive function from, not from whether one is a people person or a nerd.
Intuition vs Sensory: Defined as a PERCEPTIVE function as opposed to a JUDGING one. Either you're Intuition Dominant or Sensory Dominants. Intuition refers to the ability to pattern-seek while sensory refers to the ability to perceive something as it is through the five senses.
Thinking vs. Feeling: Defined as a JUDGING function as opposed to a PERCEPTIVE one. Most can get a sense of this from their own preconceived notions of the two words.
So for example, Introverted Intuition is a cognitive function that facilitates the ability to understand by foreseeing implications, likely effects, and the ability to grasp and get a sense of a pattern or plan. Also, Introverted Intuition is used for rectifying contradictions. Extroverted Intuition on the other hand is a cognitive function that facilitates the ability to understand by interpreting situations, relationships, pickup interconnections to other contexts. Extroverted Intuition is also used for finding different paths or methods to solve things. According to what is self reported, many on here seem to classify themselves as INTJs/INFJs. This would mean that Introverted Intuition is their leading cognitive function which could make sense as the INTJ is supposed to be the archetypal scientist.
4. You can predict the order of cognitive functions through this algorithm which I have recently come up with (or you can look them up):
a.) E or I? If E, then your 1st and 3rd functions or extroverted and your 2nd are 4th are introverted. Vice versa for I.
b.) IJ/EP OR EJ/IP? If IJ/EP then first and last functions are perceiving functions and the middle are judging. If EJ/IP, then middle are perceiving and first and last are judging.
c.) T or F? If T, place T in the first or second position depending on results from previous step. If F, place F in the first of second position depending on results from previous step.
d.) Now you should have first four functions. To figure out the rest, simply take the same functions and repeat them but switch all introverted and extroverted functions.
If anyone is interested in discussing:
-the validity and/or accuracy of the MBTI in predicting an individual's personality and/or character
-why the algorithm which I have devised works
-how to make an accurate MBTI given the difficulty or ranking 8 cognitive functions.
-feels that they have better definitions for terms I have used
-the framework/context in which MBTI can be used
-what they would type me
please message me!
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