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if there files are true, those people are way to hardcore.
Chankovsky said:if there files are true, those people are way to hardcore.
Kazema said:Some schools (like mine) don't give - or + grades. So like a 90% at those schools would be an A, ie a 4.0.
Kazema said:Some schools (like mine) don't give - or + grades. So like a 90% at those schools would be an A, ie a 4.0.
I agree. Clearly you would be far more likely to be willing to put your stats up for eveyone to see if they were phenomenal. So you can pretty much assume that the bulk of the applicant pool that isn't posting doesn't have those kind of stats.Larsitron said:I'd second the post about looking at the averages for schools. Remember that people on this site and mdapplicants are the self-starters. They are the people that are plugged into their application, plugged into things, on top of schedules, etc. So, I wouldn't necessarily describe mdapplicants or even this site as the typical cross section of the whole applicant pool.
scrappysurfer said:My GPA would have been MUCH higher without - or + grades. I got at least 3x as many (A-) grades as (B+) grades. Oh well. I think I'll live.
Don't worry. The meat of your application (the essays) will count for something. I spoke with a fellow applicant a couple of days ago. She has substantially better grades and MCAT than me, but got shut out of the UC's becuase all she could show was grades. Granted she had an easier major, but she still has a good personality and would be a good doc. Take home message: No real volunteering. No research. = No med school.
Chankovsky said:if there files are true, those people are way to hardcore.
chitown82 said:For a school without +/-, for every A- you got, you'd get and A and for every B+ you got, you would get a B...so your GPA wouldn't have been much different at all.
I disagree. Let's take a simple example, and say that I took 4 equally-credited courses, receiving an A, A-, A-, and B+. That's 4.0 + 3.7 + 3.7 + 3.3 = 14.7 / 4 = 3.675. The same grades at a school with no +/- make: 4.0 + 4.0 + 4.0 + 3.0 = 15 / 4 = 3.75. The difference is clearly non-trivial, and the more you weight the numbers to A- versus B+, the more lopsided it gets.chitown82 said:For a school without +/-, for every A- you got, you'd get and A and for every B+ you got, you would get a B...so your GPA wouldn't have been much different at all.
Chankovsky said:if there files are true, those people are way to hardcore.
liverotcod said:I disagree. Let's take a simple example, and say that I took 4 equally-credited courses, receiving an A, A-, A-, and B+. That's 4.0 + 3.7 + 3.7 + 3.3 = 14.7 / 4 = 3.675. The same grades at a school with no +/- make: 4.0 + 4.0 + 4.0 + 3.0 = 15 / 4 = 3.75. The difference is clearly non-trivial, and the more you weight the numbers to A- versus B+, the more lopsided it gets.
Scrappysurfer said: "I got at least 3x as many (A-) grades as (B+) grades."kikkoman said:Dude, you put two A-'s in there and one B+. If you evened out the A-'s and B+'s, it works out to be the same. I think that is what he was trying to get across. The whole +/- does work against solid A students, who are hurt by the fact that a A+ is not a 4.3 (at most schools at least). But if you are a A-/B+ averaging student, it doesn't hurt you at all.
kikkoman said:Dude, you put two A-'s in there and one B+. If you evened out the A-'s and B+'s, it works out to be the same. I think that is what he was trying to get across.
ditto. they're there just FYI. it's kinda like lookin at the MSAR on an individual basis.Blue Scrub said:I wouldn't really sweat the stats people put up on MDApplicants, they dont represent the average med school acceptee, or the average med school applicant
Or that some of us are truly dedicated and bust our asses for what we want to achieve?Chankovsky said:if there files are true, those people are way to hardcore.
TheProwler said:Or that some of us are truly dedicated and bust our asses for what we want to achieve?
However, some of them really make me wonder how in the world they did all this stuff. Check this one out:
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=2700
Academic
-4A's in GCE Advanced Level Maths & Biology (University of Cambridge) and Physics & Chemistry (University of London).
-Graduated with BS in Medical Microbiology & Immunology (Distinctive Scholastic Achievement) in 12/04.
-several academic awards/scholarships
-international educational experience (Sudan, UK)
Research
-TB research (basic science and clinical) in Ethiopia
-Summer Undergraduate Research Internship at Harvard Medical School.
-2-year research experience at UW-Madison
-attended international infectious disease conference
Clinical Experience
-shadowed neurosurgeon at Harvard Medical School
-clinical rotation/externship in internal medicine & pediatrics (TB, Malaria, leprosy), in Ethiopia.
-extensive clinical volunteering/shadowing (Sudan).
Extracurricular
-Division 1 soccer player
-University of Wisconsin-Madison men's volleyball team
-undergraduate physics tutor
-Multi-lingual (French and Arabic).
antissa said:How do you know it was him?
12 results in set, 31.3 average MCAT, 3.75 average GPA. Search took 0.15 seconds.
ellia08 said:I wouldnt really worry about it. It's probably a self selecting group.
People with high stats are more likely to post them and, even when names are removed, people are likely to lie. Plus, there are lots of hypotheses that kids on sdn are more intimidating than the average applicant.
So nope, I dont really worry. Actually, it kinda makes me feel good because even with perfect stats, no one gets accepted everywhere. Everyone deals with rejection, its just the way things are. (ok, one or two on MDapplicants say they havent been rejected anywhere but I dont really buy it).