Anyone have any recs for portable anesthesia machines?

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What features do you want? Nitrous? Air? Vent? Low flow? 1 vaporizer ok?
 

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I personally have the VS02 but I use nitrous. Oceanic Magellan is military grade so probably more rugged.
 
propadope said:
What features do you want? Nitrous? Air? Vent? Low flow? 1 vaporizer ok?
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Definitely vent. It would be for office-based anesthesia. Nitrous/air/vaporizer capability is good but may just do a TIVA. Would like closed-system capability.

It would be for a moonlighting deal. There is a lot of coin on the table in my area at these office-based surgeries for plastics, dental, and other specialties.

I’m getting older and slower. If I built up a regular schedule and could kiss more 3am AAA calls goodbye, it would be nice. But just in the beginning parts of probing.
 
Ignatius J said:
Definitely vent. It would be for office-based anesthesia. Nitrous/air/vaporizer capability is good but may just do a TIVA. Would like closed-system capability.

It would be for a moonlighting deal. There is a lot of coin on the table in my area at these office-based surgeries for plastics, dental, and other specialties.

I’m getting older and slower. If I built up a regular schedule and could kiss more 3am AAA calls goodbye, it would be nice. But just in the beginning parts of probing.
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I don’t think there is one machine that does it all. The Oceanic Magellan is the only one with an option for an integrated ventilator I believe. You can buy a separate ventilator for the DRE VS02. Most of the vents are going to be crude and pneumatic so its gonna eat up your oxygen supply. VS02 is the only one with nitrous which is good for peds and dental. Dental offices vary in what gas supplies they have. They may have oxygen and nitrous plumbed in to the wall. They might just have E cylinders. They will not have air so that is something to consider.
 
I’m not in the market myself, but would be curious to know roughly how much each of these is going for… $5000? $10,000? $50,000?
 
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Jeez, just watch...you buy it...its actually a toy model. I do dream about getting my own portable anesthesia machine. A portable surgical suite on one of those modified leisure vans outfitted with a generator for power, few large O2 tanks, anesthesia machine, OR lights.......nah...too much work. Honestly a propofol pump and portable ventilator will probably be more space saving.
 
LifeofGas said:
Jeez, just watch...you buy it...its actually a toy model. I do dream about getting my own portable anesthesia machine. A portable surgical suite on one of those modified leisure vans outfitted with a generator for power, few large O2 tanks, anesthesia machine, OR lights.......nah...too much work. Honestly a propofol pump and portable ventilator will probably be more space saving.
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TIVA is more portable but its nice to have options. If you are doing peds, vapour is certainly convenient unless you want to give every kid an IM.
 
LifeofGas said:
Jeez, just watch...you buy it...its actually a toy model. I do dream about getting my own portable anesthesia machine. A portable surgical suite on one of those modified leisure vans outfitted with a generator for power, few large O2 tanks, anesthesia machine, OR lights.......nah...too much work. Honestly a propofol pump and portable ventilator will probably be more space saving.
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Honestly, anesthesiologists owning the assets gives leverage and flexibility to the specialty, provided corners aren’t cut and vigilance is maintained. I do a lot of surgeries where patients are charged a hospital facility fee to essentially use an anesthesia machine. It doesn’t have to be that way.
 
Ignatius J said:
Honestly, anesthesiologists owning the assets gives leverage and flexibility to the specialty, provided corners aren’t cut and vigilance is maintained. I do a lot of surgeries where patients are charged a hospital facility fee to essentially use an anesthesia machine. It doesn’t have to be that way.
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Back in the Wild West 1990’s, some practices (Allied in Orange County and Carson City group) required that you buy your own machines and carts. You could set them up however you liked and you wheeled all the gear from room to room between cases.
 
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propadope said:
There’s also the Narkomed

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Seems to have all the features but its less portable
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Used one of those deployed on an aircraft carrier in 2000. Very compact and space-efficient. Took care of business with no issues.
 
Monty Python said:
Used one of those deployed on an aircraft carrier in 2000. Very compact and space-efficient. Took care of business with no issues.
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It would be my choice for office based with a ‘parked’ machine that I wouldn’t have to carry
 
Resurrecting this thread

Anyone doing office based dental gigs with just propofol tiva and a Jackson Rees?

Or all y'all splurging 10k for a ventilator?
 
spike7585 said:
Resurrecting this thread

Anyone doing office based dental gigs with just propofol tiva and a Jackson Rees?

Or all y'all splurging 10k for a ventilator?
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Could it be done? I guess. But I wouldn’t compromise.

I do office based dental and use the DRE VSO2 machine as mentioned above. I always worry about conserving oxygen as its not an ‘endless’ supply like in a hospital. Ive never been to an office that has medical air plumbed. You’re going to need pretty high flows of oxygen with a Jackson Reese to minimize rebreathing. Its nice to be able to use low flows, air (if available), nitrous (if you so choose) , vapour (if you so choose). A ventilator is always nice but I would also recommend a piston driven one that doesn’t consume O2.

If you’re planning on intubating than you are looking at an anesthesia machine along with at least 1 infusion pump and a video laryngoscope. Bonus points for a ventilator
 
PpfSuxTube said:
Hold up, surely you guys wouldn't consider anesthetising a human possibly a child in a dental office with something bought off alibaba?

I dabbled in dental anesthesia, money was OK but risks were too high for me... I'd take the 3am AAA any day
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Children are small animals…
 
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