Asians going to west coast schools

[jlee9531]

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for junathon...

you can get interview invites from the university of hawaii without having any relationship to the state....there are some members on sdn that have gotten interviews there without any connection to the state or the university. and no you dont need excellent numbers to apply out of state, but it doesnt hurt.

for jet915...

damn you! why didnt your school interview me!! haha. hope you having fun at creighton bro...

 

[celticmists18]

Hmm, well, okay, I guess I did think that statement was a bit surprising when I saw it on their website (sorry I missed the previous discussions, I really am just sort of late in the game). But I guess I was more inclined to believe it since they are the only UC school I didn't get accepted to (except Davis, whose interview I declined). I guess I hoped that maybe I wasn't competitive at UCLA because they don't care about residence like the other schools. I suppose maybe it's time to accept that they were just genuinely unimpressed by my application.

don't take it personally, from what I have seen there is no rhyme or reason to application process.

 

[Newquagmire]

To the OP: being Asian is really secondary to being out of state in regards to med school. Being a californian who went through the application process I would tell you to save your money and not apply to any of the UCs. If you are set on CA for med school try the privates as many others people have suggested. good luck, I've lived here my entire life, went to UCSD, and didn't get a single interview in CA (same sob story applies to a lot of my friends)

maybe this is a stupid question, but why didn't you try to become a resident if you went to ugrad at ucsd? i could google it, but does anybody know the requirements for proving residency? i had a couple friends from high school go to other state's schools in-state cause their grandfolks or something lived in those states and they basically forged having lived with their grandfolks.

 

[celticmists18]

maybe this is a stupid question, but why didn't you try to become a resident if you went to ugrad at ucsd? i could google it, but does anybody know the requirements for proving residency? i had a couple friends from high school go to other state's schools in-state cause their grandfolks or something lived in those states and they basically forged having lived with their grandfolks.

you need to re-read my post. I am a resident. I have spend my ENTIRE life in california. and FYI: california is one of the hardest state's to establish residency in (don't know the exact requirements, but just having a CA address doesn't cut it. . . people are loathe the give up ca residency unless they have a damn good reason).

 

[Alexander99]

maybe this is a stupid question, but why didn't you try to become a resident if you went to ugrad at ucsd? i could google it, but does anybody know the requirements for proving residency? i had a couple friends from high school go to other state's schools in-state cause their grandfolks or something lived in those states and they basically forged having lived with their grandfolks.

Yeah. You can forge your way to establishing residency by pretending to have lived with your grandparents, aunt, etc. but how is that any better than forging phone bills, electric bills, etc? There is a lot you can get away with but whether you can or not isn't the issue.

 

[exmike]

Yeah. You can forge your way to establishing residency by pretending to have lived with your grandparents, aunt, etc. but how is that any better than forging phone bills, electric bills, etc? There is a lot you can get away with but whether you can or not isn't the issue.

But from our discussion about applying as a CA resident, why would anyone WANT to be a CA resident unless they're from a state w/o a med school? Not only is it hard, being a resdient doesnt really help! ARGH why must CA be so mean! Its a love-hate relationship.

 

[Alexander99]

But from our discussion about applying as a CA resident, why would anyone WANT to be a CA resident unless they're from a state w/o a med school? Not only is it hard, being a resdient doesnt really help! ARGH why must CA be so mean! Its a love-hate relationship.

It does help, as long as you're competitive. If you're a competitive CA applicant, you'll be able to get into a good med school (pretty much any UC) at a reasonable price (it used to be more reasonable but $20-22k/yr is still pretty good.)

You're right in that it's tough being in CA if you're a marginal applicant. If you're borderline, being in states like Texas is the best.

 

[exmike]

It does help, as long as you're competitive. If you're a competitive CA applicant, you'll be able to get into a good med school (pretty much any UC) at a reasonable price (it used to be more reasonable but $20-22k/yr is still pretty good.)

You're right in that it's tough being in CA if you're a marginal applicant. If you're borderline, being in states like Texas is the best.

You're right. If you're stellar, come to CA! Great schools. If you're marginal, like me, no soup!

 

[Goober]

It does help, as long as you're competitive. If you're a competitive CA applicant, you'll be able to get into a good med school (pretty much any UC) at a reasonable price (it used to be more reasonable but $20-22k/yr is still pretty good.)

You're right in that it's tough being in CA if you're a marginal applicant. If you're borderline, being in states like Texas is the best.

Do you consider a 3.92 gpa, 32 MCAT from from a top UC school for undergrad competitive? Results- 17 interviews offers outside of CA, 0 interviews in CA 😡

Happened awhile ago but still slightly pisses me off when I think about it 😎

 

[Newquagmire]

Yeah. You can forge your way to establishing residency by pretending to have lived with your grandparents, aunt, etc. but how is that any better than forging phone bills, electric bills, etc? There is a lot you can get away with but whether you can or not isn't the issue.

It's too late for me to do it, I'm just asking how it could be done if one wanted to.

PS: Thanks for the negatory karma, whoever. I love how personally people take the internet.

 

[Alexander99]

Do you consider a 3.92 gpa, 32 MCAT from from a top UC school for undergrad competitive? Results- 17 interviews offers outside of CA, 0 interviews in CA 😡

Happened awhile ago but still slightly pisses me off when I think about it 😎

Well, your 32 wasn't that great.

 

[Blade28]

I believe Blade would be the one to contact about this... Since Hawaii has stron prefernece for people with ties to the state, you have to be above and beyond (number-wise) what they actually accept.

They go by a point system, and if your numbers and ECs give you enough points to reach a cut-off (without the state-relationship points), you can still get an interview there.

Wow, that's a pretty good summary. 🙂

Basically, when reviewing your primary and secondary, they assign points based on different categories - science/non-science GPA, personal statement, extra-curriculars, MCAT, letters of recommendation, etc. All the major stuff you'd expect. You need to meet a certain cut-off to be granted an interview. I can't recall the exact numbers, off the top of my head, but it's something like 11 for in-state applications and 15-16 for out-of-state applicants.

Of course, the catch is, since it's a state school, those with "documented ties to the state" have preference. They basically look for 3 of the following 5 criteria:

*Where the applicant was born
*Where the applicant graduated from high school
*Where the applicant graduated from college
*Legal residence of applicant's parents
*Legal residence of applicant

So, theoretically, an in-state applicant with poorer numbers than an out-of-state one could still get an interview (both would). I was lucky, I was born in Oakland, and did my undergrad in California. However, I graduated from a Hawaii high school, and am still a legal resident of the state (as are my parents).

I've heard basically you need to be born there.

So, in short, no. 🙂

 

[Blade28]

you need to re-read my post. I am a resident. I have spend my ENTIRE life in california. and FYI: california is one of the hardest state's to establish residency in (don't know the exact requirements, but just having a CA address doesn't cut it. . . people are loathe the give up ca residency unless they have a damn good reason).

Yeah, it is very tough. I went to a UC school, and thus lived in California for 4 years during college. I was BORN in California (Oakland). Spent the first 8 years of my life in the Bay Area.

Nope, no residency for me. 🙁

 

[Alexander99]

It's too late for me to do it, I'm just asking how it could be done if one wanted to.

PS: Thanks for the negatory karma, whoever. I love how personally people take the internet.

You're smoking crack. I didn't give you a negative karma rating. But since you accused me of giving you one anyway, I might as well give you one now. 😡

 

[Newquagmire]

You're smoking crack. I didn't give you a negative karma rating. But since you accused me of giving you one anyway, I might as well give you one now. 😡

hahahaha, how'd you do on the verbal section? i said "whoever," i didn't finger point. go for it though, like i said in the comments forum, i don't really care about this karma business.

i wonder if they would call it "sins vs good works" in asia.

 

[Goober]

Well, your 32 wasn't that great.

Well it was good enough for 3 schools ranked in the top 15 according US News 😛

 

[Alexander99]

Well it was good enough for 3 schools ranked in the top 15 according US News 😛

Rankings don't mean anything, remember? 🙄

 

[Alexander99]

hahahaha, how'd you do on the verbal section? i said "whoever," i didn't finger point. go for it though, like i said in the comments forum, i don't really care about this karma business.

i wonder if they would call it "sins vs good works" in asia.

Bleh. I've got dyslexia. I read "whoever" as "however." It's amazing I did so well on the verbal considering my reading disability (or perhaps inability to read in general). Heh.

 

[Newquagmire]

Bleh. I've got dyslexia. I read "whoever" as "however." It's amazing I did so well on the verbal considering my reading disability (or perhaps inability to read in general). Heh.

why is it called "karma" anyway? in buddhist theology, the term only applies to negative actions.

 

[mackaikai]

i love CA and hate CA

love CA for its diversity, food, weather
hate CA for its crappy med school systems..sooo hard to get into UCs

 

[CalBeE]

why is it called "karma" anyway? in buddhist theology, the term only applies to negative actions.

I think technically Karma is a neutral term, like "Temperature" or "History"...many times people will say something bad happens to you b/c of your "Karma" (What you did in the past), but Karma itself isn't necessarily bad. If you do good, people said you build up good "Karma" for your next life.

 

[stwei]

Does anyone look at the attrition rates of medical schools? What would be the rate for Asians? Also, how many Asians are accepted at osteopathic schools?

 

[jlee9531]

Does anyone look at the attrition rates of medical schools? What would be the rate for Asians? Also, how many Asians are accepted at osteopathic schools?

maybe you should ask this in the pre-DO forum...

 

[zoteater]

do they ask specifically for what type of asian you are? what if you're an underrepresented type of asian (eg. not chinese, korean, japanese, etc.)??? i'm not hawaiian or alaskan. are all asian ethnicities looked at as just "asian"?

 

[Newquagmire]

do they ask specifically for what type of asian you are? what if you're an underrepresented type of asian (eg. not chinese, korean, japanese, etc.)??? i'm not hawaiian or alaskan. are all asian ethnicities looked at as just "asian"?

If I recall correctly, there is a box for voluntary elaboration. I'm not sure that there is any correction for being Cambodian or the like though.