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man I dont get it! When I speak a little bit of truth everyone thinks I am racist. I blame this on the elite liberals who are taking america down. The politics have gotten so bad that no one can even say the truth anymore

hmm, liberal bashing? i can side with that. its true, pc is taking over.

Every post I've seen of yours has some kind of race bend. You must live a tortured existence.

sigh

 

[tank you]

so too with everybody in some roundabout form or fashion, but at least we admit it

except when your interviewer asks you if you think altruism is an important behavior trait or some other crap like that. 😎

 

[riceman04]

Every post I've seen of yours has some kind of race bend. You must live a tortured existence.

Well if you call being African American and worrying about getting stopped by police everyday b/c of the color of your skin (etc...)...then I guess you could say it is torture. But I live through it!

And I was only joking about the shotgun thing

 

[SDNtheone]

No one said europeans (I like that word better) did not think outside of the box....I just said that while doing so they were also ensuring their domination over other cultures.

And enslaving others did have alot to do with your success....Honestly, I cannot have any hard feelings about it b/c everyone did it. When people are enslaved, they are oppressed in many ways....one being the prevention of applicating ideas that may lead to overall progress for that ethnic group. "Divide and conquer in all facets".....that's a phrase used by many Afrikaans during apartheid.

Thank you brother malcom X lol I dont know why you are telling me thinks I already know... I went to college too lol 🙂

 

[CTSballer11]

very interesting. where did you go to undergrad then, since you had a choice? and was your father supportive of your denial to columbia?

My father is cool with my decision not to attend columbia. The really expensive tuition made it easy to persuade him otherwise. I chose to accept a baseball scholarship for my instate school. To make a long story short I had an injury and I decided not to continue playing ball. I missed the spring semester of school. I would rather not say where I go because it was kind of a big deal that I did not continue to play. My family is cool as long as I go into medicine. My uncle is a doc and I laugh when I think of some of the convos we had when I was younger. It felt like he was the godfather and I was micheal corloene as he lecutured me about the family business. My dad is the only non doc out of his three bros.

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

man I dont get it! When I speak a little bit of truth everyone thinks I am racist. I blame this on the elite liberals who are taking america down. The politics have gotten so bad that no one can even say the truth anymore

You are talking garbage. The West is where it is largely because of its monopoly over violence. Read what Belgians did in the Congo before you go spouting crap like that again.

As for Nobel Prizes and all that rot, I don't mean to sound racist, but it is a fact that most discoveries in math and sciences (and inventions) have been restricted to a handful of national groups, mostly in Europe and/or European American. China and parts of the Middle East are the big exceptions, with enormously important scientific inventions. I am not saying this is because of some sort of superiority. Rather, I think it is because of cultural differences. The Japanese stand out as being the most "restricted" ethnic group I have ever seen. You can see some of this in their language, which has a complex system of honorifics. In a culture that is so socially crystallized, that crushes all challenges to the established order, it is difficult to be creative. Japanese musicians play entirely without feeling (listen to Midori play a piece, then listen to Oistrakh play it). China is much less restricted and hence China has had the preponderance of non-Western contributions to science and technology.

 

[Shredder]

except when your interviewer asks you if you think altruism is an important behavior trait or some other crap like that. 😎

i blame this on the elite liberals who are taking america down. i always wonder if theres a good med school out there where one could answer flat out no to this question and be just fine, but i have yet to find a school like that. im really hoping its not asked--its been pounded over our heads enough already thusfar

 

[Zuras]

Well if you call being African American and worrying about getting stopped by police everyday b/c of the color of your skin (etc...)...then I guess you could say it is torture. But I live through it!

And I was only joking about the shotgun thing

The good ol' racial profiling myth. You just keep believing in bogeymen in white sheets.
http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp66dSummer2003p71.htm

 

[SDNtheone]

You are talking garbage. The West is where it is largely because of its monopoly over violence. Read what Belgians did in the Congo before you go spouting crap like that again.

As for Nobel Prizes and all that rot, I don't mean to sound racist, but it is a fact that most discoveries in math and sciences (and inventions) have been restricted to a handful of national groups, mostly in Europe and/or European American. China and parts of the Middle East are the big exceptions, with enormously important scientific inventions. I am not saying this is because of some sort of superiority. Rather, I think it is because of cultural differences. The Japanese stand out as being the most "restricted" ethnic group I have ever seen. You can see some of this in their language, which has a complex system of honorifics. In a culture that is so socially crystallized, that crushes all challenges to the established order, it is difficult to be creative. Japanese musicians play entirely without feeling (listen to Midori play a piece, then listen to Oistrakh play it). China is much less restricted and hence China has had the preponderance of non-Western contributions to science and technology.

Let me guess you are chinese... Actually to hurt your feelings the japanese have more nobel prizes than you guys... Sleep in tears 🙂

 

[radioh3ad]

My father is cool with my decision not to attend columbia. The really expensive tuition made it easy to persuade him otherwise. I chose to accept a baseball scholarship for my instate school. To make a long story short I had an injury and I decided not to continue playing ball. I missed the spring semester of school. I would rather not say where I go because it was kind of a big deal that I did not continue to play. My family is cool as long as I go into medicine. My uncle is a doc and I laugh when I think of some of the convos we had when I was younger. It felt like he was the godfather and I was micheal corloene as he lecutured me about the family business. My dad is the only non doc out of his three bros.

yea i wonder whether i would've chosen to be a doc if i had a physician family. back in the day it would've been a right of passage for you, a family trade. lousy modern education system ruined all that hmm.

thanks for sharing what you have. sucks about the injury, but i'm sure you've used it as motivation. baseball or medicine? that's damn tough, considering the compensation and fulfillment involved with both professions. (assuming you were good enough to get in minor or major leagues)

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

Let me guess you are chinese... Actually to hurt your feelings the japanese have more nobel prizes than you guys... Sleep in tears 🙂

No, I am not Chinese. I am white, you twit. And for your info, the nobel prizes count for **** compared to the truly important inventions of history.

The Chinese have invented so many things, from the binomial theorem and the abacus, the seismograph and cast iron process, porcelain, the oldest canal in the world, silk, gunpowder, the rocked, the grenade, the astrolabe, the magnetic compass, calligraphy, independently invented writing (only case apart from the Sumerians), paper, the printing press, paper money, and the first oceanic navigation (to the Indian Ocean, way before the Europeans), etc.

You are obviously uneducated.

 

[CTSballer11]

i blame this on the elite liberals who are taking america down. i always wonder if theres a good med school out there where one could answer flat out no to this question and be just fine, but i have yet to find a school like that. im really hoping its not asked--its been pounded over our heads enough already thusfar

Yep. It is funny that you bring this up. I asked three of my uncles why they choose medicine. They said that they find the work very fascinating but I did not sense an altruistic motive.

 

[radioh3ad]

never mind

 

[SDNtheone]

No, I am not Chinese. I am white, you twit. And for your info, the nobel prizes count for **** compared to the truly important inventions of history.

The Chinese have invented so many things, from the binomial theorem and the abacus, the seismograph and cast iron process, porcelain, the oldest canal in the world, silk, gunpowder, the rocked, the grenade, the astrolabe, the magnetic compass, calligraphy, independently invented writing (only case apart from the Sumerians), paper, the printing press, paper money, and the first oceanic navigation (to the Indian Ocean, way before the Europeans), etc.

You are obviously uneducated.

same can be said for any race.. what is your point??

 

[Shredder]

Yep. It is funny that you bring this up. I asked three of my uncles why they choose medicine. They said that they find the work very fascinating but I did not sense an altruistic motive.

i think its a recent phenomenon. and its disturbing. politics are invading medicine

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

same can be said for any race.. what is your point??

The point is that the inventions of the Chinese are some of the most essential and enduring to this day. While you seem to think that the whites invented everything and all other races are just mindless automatons and dullards. And the other point was that the Nobel Prizes don't necessarily reflect history, since they are, afterall, just a hundred years old.

 

[tank you]

i think its a recent phenomenon. and its disturbing. politics are invading medicine

we need to go back to the selfish, money-hungry, power-wielding doctors of yesteryear haha.

 

[SDNtheone]

The point is that the inventions of the Chinese are some of the most essential and enduring to this day. While you seem to think that the whites invented everything and all other races are just mindless automatons and dullards. And the other point was that the Nobel Prizes don't necessarily reflect history, since they are, afterall, just a hundred years old.

thank you mr. miage sp. My question to you... If they invented all those great things and they are working 10 times harder than the rest of us, why are they not winning anyting now?? 4 words thinking outside the box

 

[radioh3ad]

i think its a recent phenomenon. and its disturbing. politics are invading medicine

it's funny how the original hippocratic oath went against abortion. just a thought. i'm tired.

 

[SDNtheone]

hmm, liberal bashing? i can side with that. its true, pc is taking over.
sigh

hey a fellow republican... I can't hate on that

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

thank you mr. miage sp. My question to you... If they invented all those great things and they are working 10 times harder than the rest of us, why are they not winning anyting now?? 4 words thinking outside the box

Oh, OK, it's nice to know that MacKinnon's crystallization of a bacterial potassium channel (which won a Nobel prize) is supposed to be the benchmark of creativity. How ingenious! He must have "thought outside of the box." As for today, I think Chinese (and many other peoples) do have the potential to be as inventive as they once were, perhaps that will happen relatively soon. You never know. Russia made very few contributions to world civilization until the late 1700s/early 1800s, and after that, they provided some of the top composers, writers, and mathematicians. I don't understand history, I just know that you understand it even less than I.

 

[CTSballer11]

yea i wonder whether i would've chosen to be a doc if i had a physician family. back in the day it would've been a right of passage for you, a family trade. lousy modern education system ruined all that hmm.

thanks for sharing what you have. sucks about the injury, but i'm sure you've used it as motivation. baseball or medicine? that's damn tough, considering the compensation and fulfillment involved with both professions. (assuming you were good enough to get in minor or major leagues)

My family is not forcing me into medicine , but they are not open to any other field. LOL. I guess the injury is a blessing in disguise, I can focus on my grades without worrying about the next game, the next pitcher, my next at bat.

 

[radioh3ad]

My family is not forcing me into medicine , but they are not open to any other field. LOL. I guess the injury is a blessing in disguise, I can focus on my grades without worrying about the next game, the next pitcher, my next at bat.

your next juicing. your next BALCO. 😛

 

[tank you]

hey a fellow republican... I can't hate on that

what is it with all these right-wingers here, you guys arent even docs yet! 😉

 

[Shredder]

My family is not forcing me into medicine , but they are not open to any other field. LOL. I guess the injury is a blessing in disguise, I can focus on my grades without worrying about the next game, the next pitcher, my next at bat.

any experience in sports and injuries make a great pitch (oops no pun originally intended, but what the hell) for med school admissions concerning sports medicine and inspiration. not open to any other "field"...geez im on a roll

 

[riceman04]

The good ol' racial profiling myth. You just keep believing in bogeymen in white sheets.
http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp66dSummer2003p71.htm

Well since you are not Afr. Amer. I do not expect you to understand. You are just as blind as all the others back in the day who saw nothing wrong with racism.

 

[Shredder]

what is it with all these right-wingers here, you guys arent even docs yet! 😉

always thinking ahead. plus, i dont want hillary healthcare

 

[SDNtheone]

what is it with all these right-wingers here, you guys arent even docs yet! 😉

He I am a progressive republican

1) I support AA
2) I am against the death penalty

and the list goes on...

 

[tank you]

Well since you are not Afr. Amer. I do not expect you to understand. You are just as blind as all the others back in the day who saw nothing wrong with racism.

dont mind him, he also believes in intelligent design 🙄

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

always thinking ahead. plus, i dont want hillary healthcare

Hitlery hellcare.....it takes a village.

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

dont mind him, he also believes in intelligent design 🙄

So what? I believe in creation.

 

[tank you]

He I am a progressive republican

1) I support AA
2) I am against the death penalty

and the list goes on...

and i hope embryonic stem-cells, women's right to choose, and so on...

 

[SDNtheone]

So what? I believe in creation.

hey! you are not so dumb after all

 

[Shredder]

He I am a progressive republican

1) I support AA
2) I am against the death penalty

and the list goes on...

i dont know any republicans who support aa. death penalty....mmm mmm

 

[tank you]

So what? I believe in creation.

nothing, it wasn't supposed to be derogatory, sorry. 😳

 

[radioh3ad]

Oh, OK, it's nice to know that MacKinnon's crystallization of a bacterial potassium channel (which won a Nobel prize) is supposed to be the benchmark of creativity. How ingenious! He must have "thought outside of the box." As for today, I think Chinese (and many other peoples) do have the potential to be as inventive as they once were, perhaps that will happen relatively soon. You never know. Russia made very few contributions to world civilization until the late 1700s/early 1800s, and after that, they provided some of the top composers, writers, and mathematicians. I don't understand history, I just know that you understand it even less than I.

consider that the chinese were taken a century back in time by the mao regime's call for mass agriculture. students, engineers, everyone moved to farm villages. but i wouldn't expect americans who don't study Asian history to know much of anything about the cultural revolution.

it destroyed any hope of scientific advancement in that country. but the few who escaped to the U.S. and abroad were able to get 1957,1976,1986 (chemistry), 1997, and 1998 nobel prizes in physics. mind you these prizes are awarded for discoveries made a substantial amount of time ago. there'll be a growing trend.

 

[CTSballer11]

your next juicing. your next BALCO. 😛[/QUOTE



Shredder, can you really blame the latest trend in medicine on the liberals? I wish we could all stop faking altruism. I personally want to go into medicine because I have spent time with my uncle who is a CT surgeon, and I think what he does is cool as hell and the money is good. I am really a bad person because of this?

 

[SDNtheone]

and i hope embryonic stem-cells, women's right to choose, and so on...

Prolife
No stem-cell research should be funded by the government.

 

[riceman04]

dont mind him, he also believes in intelligent design 🙄

oh ok!
You know you seem really cool...fair....rational...I would not be surprised if you get accepted into all the places at which you interview.

Good luck!

 

[tank you]

i dont know any republicans who support aa. death penalty....mmm mmm

i never understood the death penalty, wouldnt it be much more beneficial and efficient if the person was instead sent to africa or india or some other third-world country to help out???

 

[radioh3ad]

nothing, it wasn't supposed to be derogatory, sorry. 😳

cmon yes it was. i believe in creation too, but cmon that was a statement made assuming we were in your boat.

it's ok. we all have our stabbing tendencies.

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

nothing, it wasn't supposed to be derogatory, sorry. 😳

Well, it clearly was meant to be derogatory, but now you're just backpedalling. Besides, I'm in no mood to transform the ethnocentrist/AA/death penalty/selfish doctor forum into another evolution-creation hellfest.

 

[SDNtheone]

i dont know any republicans who support aa. death penalty....mmm mmm

Bush supports AA he is just against Quotas

 

[tank you]

oh ok!
You know you seem really cool...fair....rational...I would not be surprised if you get accepted into all the places at which you interview.

Good luck!

aww, youre making me blush 😳 but thx, good luck to you too 🙂

 

[radioh3ad]

i never understood the death penalty, wouldnt it be much more beneficial and efficient if the person was instead sent to africa or india or some other third-world country to help out???

so they can do their thang over there? how ingenious. penal colony for charity. like a neo-australia with a heart.

 

[Zuras]

dont mind him, he also believes in intelligent design 🙄

You should be banned for lying about people.

 

[Shredder]

Shredder, can you really blame the latest trend in medicine on the liberals? I wish we could all stop faking altruism. I personally want to go into medicine because I have spent time with my uncle who is a CT surgeon, and I think what he does is cool as hell and the money is good. I am really a bad person because of this?

i blame a lot on the liberals. we wouldnt have to fake it if the med school establishment didnt require it of us, which they absolutely do. i blame the right for giving in to "compassionate conservatism" to appease voters. since when was the right compassionate, theyre supposed to be hardliners! i think the liberals are pioneering the altruism bit and the right is passively tagging along, bc who wants to oppose it and look evil? med schools, especially the top ones, are awash in leftist thinking

 

[mercaptovizadeh]

i never understood the death penalty, wouldnt it be much more beneficial and efficient if the person was instead sent to africa or india or some other third-world country to help out???

See, here you demonstrate that at heart you are just like SDNtheone. Because you have the attitude of the "third world" being some sort of penal colony for America's serial killers. Crazy! Besides, there's tons of "projects" in the US that need to be taken care of. Otherwise, I disagree with you, I would keep brutal murderers locked up for the rest of their lives (no death penalty, though).

 

[radioh3ad]

methinks the late hour is showing its effects on our rationalities. those reading this tomorrow morning are going to have a big "wtfm8" session.

 

[tank you]

so they can do their thang over there? how ingenious. penal colony for charity. like a neo-australia with a heart.

well, they wouldn't be allowed to roam free obviously! but it just seems to make more sense. or we can continue the killing, if thats what you want.