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Hey everyone! I want to apologize in advance I feel like I'm just jumping into a conversation but I need a honest answer. I've applied to 155 programs (more IM than FM) and I haven't received a interview yet. I'm a non-us IMG (CDN). I thought my scores were decent (1=224, ck=244, cs pass, YOG 2018). Is it too late for interviews or a chance at residency?
 
Hey everyone! I want to apologize in advance I feel like I'm just jumping into a conversation but I need a honest answer. I've applied to 155 programs (more IM than FM) and I haven't received a interview yet. I'm a non-us IMG (CDN). I thought my scores were decent (1=224, ck=244, cs pass, YOG 2018). Is it too late for interviews or a chance at residency?
No.
 
A bit of a weird situation:

I'm a psychiatry resident fast-tracking into child and adolescent. After several interviews, I was asked by 1 interviewer if I was chief resident, which surprised me, because I'm definitely not. It turns out that somehow, on my ERAS application, in the information on my residency, it has me listed as a chief. I don't remember being asked this when filling out the application and did not see it the multiple times I proofread, but sure enough, it was there, and I obviously can't edit it at this point. My application otherwise never mentioned being a chief, makes it clear that I am a 3rd year and am fast-tracking, and no one else has apparently noticed this or brought it up. Should I contact program directors and inform them of the error?
 
Silly question, I know, but:

So, I have received an interview invitation from my number 1 prelim program. I didn’t really answer to their confirmation email because I thought the PC would not like receiving a thank you email along with the really important emails. Now the PC emailed me saying: you may or may not have received this information, so this is to make sure you did. Already sent and email acknowledging it, but should I send another one saying I’m sorry I didn’t reply at first?

Nope, let it go and enjoy the interview.

A bit of a weird situation:

I'm a psychiatry resident fast-tracking into child and adolescent. After several interviews, I was asked by 1 interviewer if I was chief resident, which surprised me, because I'm definitely not. It turns out that somehow, on my ERAS application, in the information on my residency, it has me listed as a chief. I don't remember being asked this when filling out the application and did not see it the multiple times I proofread, but sure enough, it was there, and I obviously can't edit it at this point. My application otherwise never mentioned being a chief, makes it clear that I am a 3rd year and am fast-tracking, and no one else has apparently noticed this or brought it up. Should I contact program directors and inform them of the error?

Nope, let it go and no one really cares. If someone brings it up just laugh and say exactly what you said here - that it's some sort of glitch.
 
I know this question has been asked before but I've read so many conflicting opinions...

I was told by my IM advisor that since I got a 250+ on step 1 I shouldn't worry about taking step 2 ck until after applying. I scheduled it for early Nov so it'll be back by first week of Dec. Now I'm hearing from some people that more and more schools are using it to screen for interviews (especially top 20 programs). I know every program does it differently but how many applicants are typically applying with step 2 Ck scores before Oct and does it really make a difference in terms of inviting someone for an interview?
 
1. So, let's say prelim program offers only J1 visa. If I get into an advanced program in the same institution that offers H1b, is it possible for them to sponsor my H1b for the prelim year as well?

2. If the programs are from different institutions, can I ask the advanced program to sponsor a H1b visa?
 
1. So, let's say prelim program offers only J1 visa. If I get into an advanced program in the same institution that offers H1b, is it possible for them to sponsor my H1b for the prelim year as well?

2. If the programs are from different institutions, can I ask the advanced program to sponsor a H1b visa?

1. Yes(if its a categorical program)
2. No
 
I have only received three invitations thus far. I think I definitely overestimated myself and applied to too many reaches. I am definitely adding more programs. Just for peace of mind, is it too late to apply to more programs at this point ? How likely would programs even consider my applications. Am I basically waiting for people's canceled spots? Thanks!
 
I have only received three invitations thus far. I think I definitely overestimated myself and applied to too many reaches. I am definitely adding more programs. Just for peace of mind, is it too late to apply to more programs at this point ? How likely would programs even consider my applications. Am I basically waiting for people's canceled spots? Thanks!

TY programs could look for applicants up until January. A lot of ophthalmology folks cancel late interviews closer to their match, which then leaves us looking at our wait list. Right now you may be closer to waiting for cancelled spots, but you'll never know unless you start emailing coordinators for those programs.
 
TY programs could look for applicants up until January. A lot of ophthalmology folks cancel late interviews closer to their match, which then leaves us looking at our wait list. Right now you may be closer to waiting for cancelled spots, but you'll never know unless you start emailing coordinators for those programs.
So would you say this is about the right time to start reaching out to programs?
 
So would you say this is about the right time to start reaching out to programs?

No good one-size-fits-all answer. For my program, probably after the first or second interview dates as the initial dust starts to settle. For large academic prelim IM programs, it may be now. There isn't one answer
 
🙂 I didn't say I'm "into dressing." I said I have a bright wardrobe. Simply the clothes I've collected along the way. 🙂
I legitimately don't own a white shirt.



We'll that's sort of important. You're talking about what the program sees but what I see is important too. If I constantly felt negativity for this sort of thing, I wouldn't be happy. I'd be miserable in a constantly austere setting. Interview season *is* a two-way street, and I would imagine a program also wouldn't want someone who would conflict with the culture. I'd rather not train somewhere if I would not be happy there, and I wouldn't want to convince someone to take me if I don't actually fit. So who knows, maybe the experience of interviewing will be really really enlightening about the places I could and couldn't thrive.

I guess that's where I feel conflicted about this stuff. A white shirt and a black suit feels like a lie I would be telling about myself. I'm goofy and colorful and fun, and really bad at hiding it. I may not end up at a super fancy program if they put me further down for a bright bowtie. I might also just have to be comfortable with that.



🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Definitely interviewing peds.

This back and forth has been helpful. It gives me a sense of what others might see, and what conflicting perspectives might be useful to look for. Thanks, toastee!

So glad you're interviewing for Peds!

You gotta be who you are. You really can't be anything else. I'd say the only thing worse than being rejected for who you are is being accepted for who you aren't. As you note, that's not what you want to be living with for the next 3+ years of your life.

That said, you can choose to be "the most widely acceptable" version of yourself that is honest and true. Bright socks. Happy tie. Or a colorful shirt. (One for honestly; two would be risky; three is probably too much and risks making you look clownish.) Mention how your style of dress helps you relate to the kids and helps them relax around you. That's legit.
 
Hi guys, another quick question here for me - I'm a DO student with decent board scores (240s/240s), a little bit of research (two poster presentations), but a poor class rank. Is there anything else I can do to coax an IM interview from one of my 3 reaches (UIC, Rush, Loyola)?

I was fortunate enough to have a PD at a program I've rotated at email each of these programs on my behalf, and was planning on sending a love letter soon as well. Would it be beneficial at all to have one of our school's deans try to reach out to the programs? Any other desperate measures I can potentially take?

Thanks for the help ya'll!
 
Hi guys, another quick question here for me - I'm a DO student with decent board scores (240s/240s), a little bit of research (two poster presentations), but a poor class rank. Is there anything else I can do to coax an IM interview from one of my 3 reaches (UIC, Rush, Loyola)?

I was fortunate enough to have a PD at a program I've rotated at email each of these programs on my behalf, and was planning on sending a love letter soon as well. Would it be beneficial at all to have one of our school's deans try to reach out to the programs? Any other desperate measures I can potentially take?

Thanks for the help ya'll!
Not really. You've done what you can do. More contact will probably be annoying.
 
Thank you so much for having this forum. I have a question in regards to a survey provided after an interview invite. The survey asks if their are specific faculty members I would like to meet during my interview day. I have never visited the program before. Would it be wise to say no or to look up faculty in my desired area of interest to meet with? Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
Thank you so much for having this forum. I have a question in regards to a survey provided after an interview invite. The survey asks if their are specific faculty members I would like to meet during my interview day. I have never visited the program before. Would it be wise to say no or to look up faculty in my desired area of interest to meet with? Thanks in advance for any advice.
If you have a specific clinical interest (Endo, cards, obesity medicine, etc), you can ask to meet with someone in that field. I’m not sure I’d ask to meet with one specific person.
 
If you've been invited for an interview, does that mean that programs are done looking at your applications and that there's minimal use in uploading an additional LOR to the program? (I ask because I only have 3 LORs- 2 from faculty and one from chair. But many programs recommend 3 LORs from faculty. I would upload anyways but the LOR i'm considering uploading is most likely not great-just good.)
 
If you've been invited for an interview, does that mean that programs are done looking at your applications and that there's minimal use in uploading an additional LOR to the program? (I ask because I only have 3 LORs- 2 from faculty and one from chair. But many programs recommend 3 LORs from faculty. I would upload anyways but the LOR i'm considering uploading is most likely not great-just good.)
From what I've heard, it depends on the program. Some programs don't even read LORs until just before the interview, so there's no harm in uploading a new letter if you believe it's a strong one. If you think it's kind of meh though, or from someone who doesn't really know you well, it may actually detract from the positive impression the other letters make.
 
If you've been invited for an interview, does that mean that programs are done looking at your applications and that there's minimal use in uploading an additional LOR to the program? (I ask because I only have 3 LORs- 2 from faculty and one from chair. But many programs recommend 3 LORs from faculty. I would upload anyways but the LOR i'm considering uploading is most likely not great-just good.)
The LOR typically makes more of a difference in the actual interview and the ranking process than in the invite stage. Go ahead and upload it. It should get into your file. Feel free to let the programs that have already invited you know there's an extra LOR in your file now, in case they print them out to give to the interviewers.
 
The LOR typically makes more of a difference in the actual interview and the ranking process than in the invite stage. Go ahead and upload it. It should get into your file. Feel free to let the programs that have already invited you know there's an extra LOR in your file now, in case they print them out to give to the interviewers.

To follow up on that, what would you say matters more for the invite stage? (grades, step 1, etc...?) and what matters more in the ranking stage? (actual interview, LORs, interaction with residents/faculty/staff etc...?)

Thanks!
 
To follow up on that, what would you say matters more for the invite stage? (grades, step 1, etc...?) and what matters more in the ranking stage? (actual interview, LORs, interaction with residents/faculty/staff etc...?)

Thanks!
Yes...definitely.
 
Thanks Gutonc and Amygdarya, for your input.

Another question: what do you guys recommend to wear for the dinner before the interview?
 
Hey all, after all, the program replied today: "Dr. (my name), Our Coordinator (her name), has told me of her error, for which she feels very bad, and indeed, so do us all. You received a confirmation of an interview in error, as your name closely resembled that of another applicant we had invited. I have reviewed your application again just now. I want to be clear and not leave you with false hopes. Your academic record and USMLE performance are not close to the criteria we use for invitations to interview, and are even further below the caliber of individuals who match with us. Your chances of matching with us are essentially zero. I am sorry to say this, and am very sorry for our error. I recommend that your save the time and expense of coming, and accept our sincere apologies." Sincerely, Distroyer of your Jugular, MD

How do I go about, asking for financial compensation for my non refundable flight/car rental? Also can I report this to ERAS??? It's ridiculous how students are held to so many professionalism standards, while this kind of stuff occurs.

I know this is a few weeks late, but...

Have you contacted other programs somewhat close to Program MistakenInvite? Tell them you will be in the area the week of...? Basically, try to make lemonade with this big fat lemon you bought.

And, wow. That email you got was unnecessarily harsh with heavy sprinkles of self-serving apologies. If I had to send an email with that content I would do my best to cause the least amount of damage.

Now I am going to be petty on your behalf:
1) "...has told me of her error, for which she feels very bad, and indeed, so do us all."
Us all feel very bad? Really? Sloppy.
2) Who actually sends an email with "I am sorry to say this?" as if it is occurring in real time (or even spoken for that matter). If you feel the need to apologize for the words you are going to send, then you find a better way to express it. Sloppier.
3) Dr. Jugular recommends you accept the apology. I recommend you do not. You are better than that.
 
If you've been invited for an interview, does that mean that programs are done looking at your applications and that there's minimal use in uploading an additional LOR to the program? (I ask because I only have 3 LORs- 2 from faculty and one from chair. But many programs recommend 3 LORs from faculty. I would upload anyways but the LOR i'm considering uploading is most likely not great-just good.)

FWIW, I don't get the packet of the candidates I'm interviewing until the day before, or even the day of, the interview. So you sending in an LOR well before the interview would certainly make it to me.
 
When it comes to writing thank you notes, is it expected to write a note to every person you came in contact with or are they usually only sent to PC and PD?
 
When it comes to writing thank you notes, is it expected to write a note to every person you came in contact with or are they usually only sent to PC and PD?
The general consensus is that it really doesn’t make a difference. Most people have made their decision about you before you can get out to send the thank you notes. They are seen as nice, but have no impact on your application one way or the other.
 
Business casual.

Thanks gutonc for the response. This is gonna be a stupid question for some, but I really want to make sure my understanding of business casual's the same as others, because some say that it's dress shirt/pants/tie no jacket. some say it's khakis with button down shirt. Could you clarify please? Thanks again for your help!
 
Thanks gutonc for the response. This is gonna be a stupid question for some, but I really want to make sure my understanding of business casual's the same as others, because some say that it's dress shirt/pants/tie no jacket. some say it's khakis with button down shirt. Could you clarify please? Thanks again for your help!

Dress & Decorum
 
Is there a tool that allows programs to reserve prelim spots only for applicants who match advanced at that same institution?

For example, Ben interviews at Big City Program for an advanced radiology position and medicine prelim position and the interview goes incredibly well with each of them expressing their interest in the other. Big City radiology program says they coordinate with the internal medicine department to try and match their top ranked applicants with prelims also at that institution so that they can conveniently consolidate their training in that city. If Ben ranks Big City radiology #2 on his ROL and Big City Program ranks Ben #1 for advanced radiology and #1 for the medicine prelim, but Ben matches to his #1 advanced program somewhere else, will Ben still automatically be offered the medicine prelim at Big City by the match algorithm because he is ranked #1, or does Big City have a way to ensure that their prelim spots are reserved only for those who match at that institution in advanced spots?
 
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Sorry if I am beating a dead horse with this question.

Can anyone comment on asking for an interview? Obviously I was hoping to get an II at my local University , but I haven't heard from them 🙁 Who is the most appropriate person to email? PD or PC? Generally, what is the best thing to say in these emails? If you can, would you mind sharing what you wrote if you've been successful at this?

Feel free to just reply or PM

Thanks!

Edit: I'm a DO applicant that was hoping to get an II in the state I'm in
 
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Is there a tool that allows programs to reserve prelim spots only for applicants who match advanced at that same institution?

For example, Ben interviews at Big City Program for an advanced radiology position and medicine prelim position and the interview goes incredibly well with each of them expressing their interest in the other. Big City radiology program says they coordinate with the internal medicine department to try and match their top ranked applicants with prelims also at that institution so that they can conveniently consolidate their training in that city. If Ben ranks Big City radiology #2 on his ROL and Big City Program ranks Ben #1 for advanced radiology and #1 for the medicine prelim, but Ben matches to his #1 advanced program somewhere else, will Ben still automatically be offered the medicine prelim at Big City by the match algorithm because he is ranked #1, or does Big City have a way to ensure that their prelim spots are reserved only for those who match at that institution in advanced spots?

Yes, there is.

Warning: Nerd alert. None of the following really matters to anyone who is matching, just rank programs in the order you want to go to them, But you asked.

There are two solutions to this problem.

#1 is a categorical match. The program gets rid of their Advanced Rads slots, and an equal number of Prelim slots, and instead puts an equal number of Categorical Rad spots into the match. This simplifies everything. Now everyone who matches gets both Rads and Prelim IM training at the same institution. It also simplifies the couples match issue, since you're guaranteed the prelim. The major problem is that if an applicant wants to do their prelim in a different place than their advanced training, they no longer have that choice -- it's all or nothing.

#2 is linking the prelim program to the advanced program. This is somewhat complicated, and is explained here: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Joint-AP.pdf Basically, it works like this:

Let's say I have 10 prelim spots. And let's say that my rads program has 4 spots, and wants to guarantee prelim positions for those 4 positions. Here's what I would do:

I start with a prelim program 12345678P0 (that's an NRMP program number. 12345678 is my program's number, P = prelim, and 0=default track) with 10 spots.
I create a new match 12345678P1, and assign 4 slots to it.
I decrease the quota of 12345678P0 to 6 slots, so I still match a total of 10 prelims.
I link 12345678P1 to the radiology program (I believe this is done by the rads program)

Now, what happens is that you (the applicant) enters their rank list of radiology programs on your main list. When you create your supplemental list for my institutions Rads program, you'll be able to rank 12345678P1, but you won't be able to rank that number for any other possible match.

Meanwhile, I submit both a P0 list and a P1 list, and I might list applicants on both lists.

See what happens? Because you can only rank the P1 option on the supplemental where you've matched to the Rads program at my institution, the only people who can match into those spots are the 4 people who have already matched to rads, so you're guranteed a spot. But you're not forced to take a spot as an applicant, you'd still be able to rank a different program. And, if you chose to match to rads somewhere else and still wanted a prelim with me, you could rank the P0 program and try to get a spot.

If I just wanted to make it "more likely" rather than guaranteed, I could put 2 or 3 spots into P1. If I only had 2 prelim slots and rads was still matching 4 (perhaps I have more prelims then that, but some are "promised" to other specialties), then either we link my 2 spots on P1 to their 4 spots on their A0 list (and there's no guarantee), or they create two tracks A1 and A0, each with 2 spots, and then link A1 to the P1 list (so those two people are guaranteed prelims) and the A0 isn't linked. Then, as an applicant, you could rank me twice on your main rank list if you want -- the A1 track which guarantees (but doesn't demand) a prelim with me, and then A0 which would make no promises about a prelim.

Sounds great, right? Well, there's a problem, on my end. Let's say we go back to the original example -- I put 4 spots in P1 and link to a rads program with 4 spots. Now, let's say someone matches to rads, but matches somewhere else for prelim (because the applicant ranked another prelim higher than my program). What happens? I end up with an unfilled spot that goes into SOAP. There's no way to rank that spot unless you match rads with me, so the spot goes vacant.

But there's a fix for that, called a reversion. This allows me to take a track that's unfilled, and add the spots to another track to try to fill it. So in this case I'd revert the P1 program to the P0 program -- any unfilled spots in P1 will then increase the quota of P0, and I'll try to fill with people who didn't match in my rads program.

Done correctly, this solves the issue you brought up. But there's still two problems. First, it's complicated and I bet some people will screw it up. Knowing that the "guaranteed" prelim track has a different code than the "non guaranteed", and some people will simply fail to rank the open prelim list on their other lists, and some program will screw up the reversions, etc. It's certain to get messed up, or applicants will be unsure what's guaranteed and what's not. And applicants might fail to rank all the various advanced tracks (A1, A2, A0, etc) because of confusion, etc.

The other problem is that you can't have a track with a quota of zero. I might be willing to try to set this up for my program, but I have multiple advanced programs who are interested in prelims. The sum total of advanced spots in all of these programs is > than my total number of prelims. If I link all of my prelim slots to my advanced programs, then I have none left for my P0 list. I actually tried to do this one year, with the plan to have a quota of zero for my P0 list but then revert anything that didn't fill in my P1, P2, P3, etc (one for each specialty) to P0 so I could fill with anyone. But it can't be done, since if you set teh quota to zero the track isn't processed at all and you can't revert to it. So it left me the option of linking for some programs, and then leaving one program unlinked and ranking their candidates on my P0 list. In the end we all decided it was simply too complicated, so we leave it all unlinked.

That was certainly more than you asked for.
 
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Sorry if I am beating a dead horse with this question.

Can anyone comment on asking for an interview? Obviously I was hoping to get an II at my local University , but I haven't heard from them 🙁 Who is the most appropriate person to email? PD or PC? Generally, what is the best thing to say in these emails? If you can, would you mind sharing what you wrote if you've been successful at this?

Feel free to just reply or PM

Thanks!

Edit: I'm a DO applicant that was hoping to get an II in the state I'm in

If you haven't heard by now, just write a short email with your name and AAMC ID, stating that you applied to their program and are very interested in an interview but haven't received an answer. Anything specific about why you're interested might be helpful ("its the same state I'm in now" isn't terribly convincing). Ask whether there is anything else they need to complete your application review. Sending to PC or PD is fine, I don't think it matters much either way.

Don't be surprised if you get an instant rejection email in response. Some programs apparently don't send out rejections, which I find troubling only because it's so easy to do so.
 
Question 1: I am couples matching and am curious will programs generally rank us close together? Like rank me 39 and rank her 40, so it's likely that we can successfully couples match--or will they possibly just rank me 20 and her 50, leaving the chances slim at that program?

Question 2: I have an interview coming up at a program I'm very interested in. My SO was not given an interview. I got this interview about 6 weeks ago and immediately emailed the program thanking them and mentioning my S.O. She never got an interview. Recently, she sent an email and never got a response. I just recieved the hotel booking confirmation for myself and do plan on going on this interview. Am I just wasting my time here, or is it likely if I vouch for my S.O. she will be able to grab an II? For the record, she has a more well rounded application than me and a stronger COMLEX Level 1 score.

Thank you to all who participate in this.
 
For categorical programs, do preliminary year residents usually give any input on candidates from dinner impressions and do their inputs have any weight on the ranking process?
 
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Question 1: I am couples matching and am curious will programs generally rank us close together? Like rank me 39 and rank her 40, so it's likely that we can successfully couples match--or will they possibly just rank me 20 and her 50, leaving the chances slim at that program?

Question 2: I have an interview coming up at a program I'm very interested in. My SO was not given an interview. I got this interview about 6 weeks ago and immediately emailed the program thanking them and mentioning my S.O. She never got an interview. Recently, she sent an email and never got a response. I just recieved the hotel booking confirmation for myself and do plan on going on this interview. Am I just wasting my time here, or is it likely if I vouch for my S.O. she will be able to grab an II? For the record, she has a more well rounded application than me and a stronger COMLEX Level 1 score.

Thank you to all who participate in this.
it depends, but sometimes applying to the the same program, especially if it is a small program, couples matching can backfire because of the risk of drama when you have a couple in the same program.
you better bet is to see if programs in the same city that your SO has interviews at will extend you an interview and vice versa.

your ROL is just going to be a really big one since you want to include all the possible combinations of the 2 of you matching as well as the possibility of one of you going unmatched to insure the other one does match.

as to your second question, you can make mention of your SO at your interview, but frankly i wouldn't count on it.
 
Question 1: I am couples matching and am curious will programs generally rank us close together? Like rank me 39 and rank her 40, so it's likely that we can successfully couples match--or will they possibly just rank me 20 and her 50, leaving the chances slim at that program?

Question 2: I have an interview coming up at a program I'm very interested in. My SO was not given an interview. I got this interview about 6 weeks ago and immediately emailed the program thanking them and mentioning my S.O. She never got an interview. Recently, she sent an email and never got a response. I just recieved the hotel booking confirmation for myself and do plan on going on this interview. Am I just wasting my time here, or is it likely if I vouch for my S.O. she will be able to grab an II? For the record, she has a more well rounded application than me and a stronger COMLEX Level 1 score.

Thank you to all who participate in this.

Q1: It depends, and every program is going to do things differently. Sometimes I just leave the two people split on the rank list -- if we go down low enough to get the lower person we get both, if not then it's your choice whether you're together or not. Sometimes if I have a really strong person I want and a "middle of the road" person, I move the lower person up. Sometimes if I have a "middle of the road" and a weaker person, the middle person moves down. If I have a strong and a weak couple it's anyone's guess -- I might leave them alone at either end of the list, split the difference and move them to the middle, or move the top person down to the bottom.

Q2: You can ask, but since you've already asked seems unlikely to help. "Vouching" for your SO is pointless -- you are not an unbiased observer.
 
For categorical programs, do preliminary year residents usually give any input on candidates from dinner impressions and do their inputs have any weight on the ranking process?
Were you a bad boy/girl at the pre-interview dinner last night with one of the current prelims?

Anybody, and everybody, that you meet during the interview process, from the PC, to the PD, to any current resident you talk to, to the "environmental services" guy you push aside on your way into the office for an interview can have input/weight on the ranking process.
 
Were you a bad boy/girl at the pre-interview dinner last night with one of the current prelims?

Anybody, and everybody, that you meet during the interview process, from the PC, to the PD, to any current resident you talk to, to the "environmental services" guy you push aside on your way into the office for an interview can have input/weight on the ranking process.
It's quite clear to me that any negative interaction with anyone can easily make it to the program director and that kind of input would be appreciated by the program director because it helps him with the selection process by narrowing down applicants, but I feel that positive connections or impressions are much less likely to make it to the program director especially if they're not directly solicited. So I was just curious if program directors actually ask for impressions from the preliminary residents.
 
I just had a first author original article submitted and the decision for acceptance vs. rejection probably won't come back for another couple of months. Do you think it is worthy enough to send an update to the programs that I waitlisted at or have not heard from regarding the submission ?
 
I just had a first author original article submitted and the decision for acceptance vs. rejection probably won't come back for another couple of months. Do you think it is worthy enough to send an update to the programs that I waitlisted at or have not heard from regarding the submission ?
No
 
1) On an upcoming dinner the dress is specified as casual, not business casual. The interview is stated as business professional as expected. Possibly of note, it's an artsy Southern city and the dinner is at a restaurant known for its selection of beer. Given the context, what does casual mean? Fwiw, it's not on the link posted above and a google search is not as productive as one might guess it would be.

2) I am on some waiting lists. Is it correct to assume I should be checking email compulsively? My imagination may be too much, but I envision:
student cancels interview -->
pc emails waitlist group -->
dogfight to log in and schedule ensues.
Is this the general pattern? (am considering assigning proxy for when it is inappropriate for me to be focused on email)


Thank you again Program Directors for continuing to share your time and expertise.
 
1) On an upcoming dinner the dress is specified as casual, not business casual. The interview is stated as business professional as expected. Possibly of note, it's an artsy Southern city and the dinner is at a restaurant known for its selection of beer. Given the context, what does casual mean? Fwiw, it's not on the link posted above and a google search is not as productive as one might guess it would be.

2) I am on some waiting lists. Is it correct to assume I should be checking email compulsively? My imagination may be too much, but I envision:
student cancels interview -->
pc emails waitlist group -->
dogfight to log in and schedule ensues.
Is this the general pattern? (am considering assigning proxy for when it is inappropriate for me to be focused on email)


Thank you again Program Directors for continuing to share your time and expertise.

You wouldn't be wrong in still going business casual.
 
1) On an upcoming dinner the dress is specified as casual, not business casual. The interview is stated as business professional as expected. Possibly of note, it's an artsy Southern city and the dinner is at a restaurant known for its selection of beer. Given the context, what does casual mean? Fwiw, it's not on the link posted above and a google search is not as productive as one might guess it would be.

2) I am on some waiting lists. Is it correct to assume I should be checking email compulsively? My imagination may be too much, but I envision:
student cancels interview -->
pc emails waitlist group -->
dogfight to log in and schedule ensues.
Is this the general pattern? (am considering assigning proxy for when it is inappropriate for me to be focused on email)


Thank you again Program Directors for continuing to share your time and expertise.

Casual in an "artsy Southern city" for a guy would be Dockers (or similar) and an interesting/nice shirt (with a collar) but without a tie. Good place for cool socks.

For the wait lists -- Yeah - stick by your phone and your proxy plan sounds prudent.
 
I've worn jeans and a fitted OCBD shirt with oxfords or boots to every single social and have been the best dressed by far, even when guys show up in slacks and a tucket in shirt (though that's not saying much). As long as your clothing is fitted and you don't come in looking like a hobo or beach bum, you'll be fine for 99% of these socials. With that said, if you feel comfortable in business casual, then by all means go for it, but don't be ashamed or scared to actually go casual. Remember that most of these socials consist of interns/residents in their 20s that are normal people and are coming to have drinks, food, and a good time. It's not something you have to think that hard about.
 
1) On an upcoming dinner the dress is specified as casual, not business casual. The interview is stated as business professional as expected. Possibly of note, it's an artsy Southern city and the dinner is at a restaurant known for its selection of beer. Given the context, what does casual mean? Fwiw, it's not on the link posted above and a google search is not as productive as one might guess it would be.

2) I am on some waiting lists. Is it correct to assume I should be checking email compulsively? My imagination may be too much, but I envision:
student cancels interview -->
pc emails waitlist group -->
dogfight to log in and schedule ensues.
Is this the general pattern? (am considering assigning proxy for when it is inappropriate for me to be focused on email)


Thank you again Program Directors for continuing to share your time and expertise.
still doesn't mean shorts and a t- shirt...or jeans and a t- shirt.
for guys, khakis and a collared shirt is fine...no need for a a tie or a jacket.
for girls, nice pants, skirt, or dress (not too short) and a top...but not clubbin' clothes (you wouldn't think i would have to say that, but...)

but better a little overdressed than underdressed...
 
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