Astro Career Center and "A Roadmap for Recruiting Medical Students into Radiation Oncology during a Period of Waning Interest"

[temujim]

MD free adaptive cases happening. Only a matter of time...

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[OTN]

I can't imagine many medical physicists wanting to take part in a "patient-facing physics consult".

 

[deleted941485]

The NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital (NYPBMH) Radiation Oncology Residency Training Program is fully accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME). We offer four years of post-graduate training in the specialty of radiation oncology following completion of a year of training in an ACGME-accredited medical, surgical, or transitional year internship.
We are recently approved for one additional PGY-2 position starting July, 2022. Qualifying residents must have completed a year of training in an ACGME-accredited medical, surgical, or transitional year internship by Jun, 2022. Previous clinical or research experiences in radiation oncology are preferred, but not required. Interested applicants may apply through ERAS/NRMP System.
Contact info:
Silvia Gonzalez
[email protected]

Saw this posted elsewhere on SDN

Old habits die hard

 

[RickyScott]

Following columbias lead

 

[thecarbonionangle]

The NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital (NYPBMH) Radiation Oncology Residency Training Program is fully accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME). We offer four years of post-graduate training in the specialty of radiation oncology following completion of a year of training in an ACGME-accredited medical, surgical, or transitional year internship.
We are recently approved for one additional PGY-2 position starting July, 2022. Qualifying residents must have completed a year of training in an ACGME-accredited medical, surgical, or transitional year internship by Jun, 2022. Previous clinical or research experiences in radiation oncology are preferred, but not required. Interested applicants may apply through ERAS/NRMP System.
Contact info:
Silvia Gonzalez
[email protected]

Saw this posted elsewhere on SDN

Old habits die hard

This is literally the worst program in country with a disgusting history of nepotism similar to Loma Linda. They had daughter of attending and son of chair graduate. Loma Linda chair also hiring son and daughter.

The NYM program is a total hellpit, basically a pp operating as a residency. This is the “leadership” our field has.

 

[thecarbonionangle]

Following columbias lead

Yeah just like Columbia PD came on here and basically said the program is great why not expand?

 

[deleted1111261]

Someone post it on Twitter @'ing all the good programs that are trying to make a change for the better.

Done. But I will get zero engagement or discussion- everybody sucks, remember ? 49 likes or whatever for taking care of my kids, but our field facing existential crisis… ignore!

 

[deleted941485]

Done. But I will get zero engagement or discussion- everybody sucks, remember ? 49 likes or whatever for taking care of my kids, but our field facing existential crisis… ignore!

Didn’t somebody post about the font usage in the red journal on Twitter?

 

[Mandelin Rain]

MD free adaptive cases happening. Only a matter of time...

They happen at UCSD. I'm sure that's part of this.

 

[deleted1111261]

Basically, only likes and responses will be Friends’ of Simul. No faculty will touch with a ten foot pole. Nobody is interested in doing the right thing collectively.

 

[fiji128]

This is why I have zero confidence in this specialty ever being able to correct things. Lose spots at quality places like Cleveland Clinic, Colorado and MDACC and at the same time grow the garbage programs like Methodist and Columbia. This could be "easily" fixed by the RRC raising the brachytherapy and peds case numbers to reflect competence in those areas but for whatever reason this is not politically doable in the hushed hallways of academia. We will be graduating 190 residents a year for at least the next decade while only about 100 physicians retire and indications/cases decrease.

 

[temujim]

This is why I have zero confidence in this specialty ever being able to correct things. Lose spots at quality places like Cleveland Clinic, Colorado and MDACC and at the same time grow the garbage programs like Methodist and Columbia. This could be "easily" fixed by the RRC raising the brachytherapy and peds case numbers to reflect competence in those areas but for whatever reason this is not politically doable in the hushed hallways of academia. We will be graduating 190 residents a year for at least the next decade while only about 100 physicians retire and indications/cases decrease.

Members of the ACGME Rad Onc committee through Jun 2022:

Neha Vapiwala, MD
Michael L. Steinberg, MD, FASTRO, FACR
Jacob Miller, MD -
Janice Lynn Kishner, RN, MSN, MBA, FACHE
Kaled M. Alektiar, MD
Prajnan Das, MD, MS, MPH, FACR
Brian J. Davis, MD, PhD
Srinivasan Vijayakumar, MD, DMRT, DABR, FACR

Vijay in Mississippi has a terrible small program and would be shut down with any changes -- so no changes. Guessing maybe Steinberg got his and don't gaf Hallahan style. The rest are at large programs and should be pissed they are getting played by the likes of NYM and columbia. And not understanding why a nurse is on a residency review committee, but whatever; that's where we are as a society.

 

[OTN]

Any time I see that many capital letters getting thrown about I have to bust out the story of a guy had MD, PhD, something else, etc, then finally MOSC after his creds. My father, who was on staff with him, asked him what 'MOSC' meant.

The guy: "You're the first who has ever asked. 'Member of Sam's Club'."

 

[deleted1116990]

An NP, physicist, and dosimetrist walk into a patient's room.

Patient: Where's the doctor?
Everyone in unison: We are the doctor.

You laugh, but this is how some hospitals operate.

RN preps patient, locums (getting $1600/day) sees patient and dictates note, dosimetrist and RTT do sim and put on volumes, locums approves, whatever other warm body is there next week checks on them for the 77427. Dosimetrist and physicist do chart rounds on their own, convinced they are taking care of the patient. MD (locums) is there for billing purposes only. It is a total joke. Once this kind of culture has been established in a department it is a "cancer" that will never go away.

 

[fiji128]

Members of the ACGME Rad Onc committee through Jun 2022:

Neha Vapiwala, MD
Michael L. Steinberg, MD, FASTRO, FACR
Jacob Miller, MD -
Janice Lynn Kishner, RN, MSN, MBA, FACHE
Kaled M. Alektiar, MD
Prajnan Das, MD, MS, MPH, FACR
Brian J. Davis, MD, PhD
Srinivasan Vijayakumar, MD, DMRT, DABR, FACR

Vijay in Mississippi has a terrible small program and would be shut down with any changes -- so no changes. Guessing maybe Steinberg got his and don't gaf Hallahan style. The rest are at large programs and should be pissed they are getting played by the likes of NYM and columbia. And not understanding why a nurse is on a residency review committee, but whatever; that's where we are as a society.

It's been awhile since I last looked at this but I believe the RRC's have to have some non MD stakeholder representation. However, everyone else can be and is from the same academic echo chamber.

 

[medgator]

Members of the ACGME Rad Onc committee through Jun 2022:


Michael L. Steinberg, MD, FASTRO, FACR
. Guessing maybe Steinberg got his and don't gaf Hallahan style.

Ucla trying to entice (only US) medical students to rotate through the the Dept with stipend/summer fellowship money

 

[deleted1111261]

Any time I see that many capital letters getting thrown about I have to bust out the story of a guy had MD, PhD, something else, etc, then finally MOSC after his creds. My father, who was on staff with him, asked him what 'MOSC' meant.

The guy: "You're the first who has ever asked. 'Member of Sam's Club'."

Stealing this!

 

[jondunn]

Can't find a job...

I'm a current head & neck fellow FY21 and have been on the hunt for an academic job for the past several months without avail. I know its a relatively small field, but neither my fellowship director, nor several other prominent H&N individuals I've talked to have any leads (several have stated...

forums.studentdoctor.net

i wonder if other surg onc fields in addition to rad onc are having tough times

 

[RickyScott]

Can't find a job...

I'm a current head & neck fellow FY21 and have been on the hunt for an academic job for the past several months without avail. I know its a relatively small field, but neither my fellowship director, nor several other prominent H&N individuals I've talked to have any leads (several have stated...

forums.studentdoctor.net

i wonder if other surg onc fields in addition to rad onc are having tough times

Big difference is that this guy can do some general surg if he can’t find an academic job. He even expresses surprise at how much gen surg pays. Worst case, he takes gen surg with some surg onc on the side.

 

[deleted941485]

Can't find a job...

I'm a current head & neck fellow FY21 and have been on the hunt for an academic job for the past several months without avail. I know its a relatively small field, but neither my fellowship director, nor several other prominent H&N individuals I've talked to have any leads (several have stated...

forums.studentdoctor.net

i wonder if other surg onc fields in addition to rad onc are having tough times

I never understood surg onc as a field. The only saving grace is these guys can fall back on gen surg and small procedures. But honestly what are they doing whipples maybe sarcomas? My rationale is this colon cancer - colorectal surgeon, head and neck ca - ENT, Lung Ca - Thoracic surgeon, prostate cancer? - urology, breast cancer - oh yeah surgeons have a fellowship for that too, biliary ca? - HB surgeon?

In a relatively populated area I don't know what a general surg onc would do if they arent doing whipples basically everything that gen surgeons do I guess.

 

[medgator]

Big difference is that this guy can do some general surg if he can’t find an academic job. He even expresses surprise at how much gen surg pays. Worst case, he takes gen surg with some surg onc on the side.

Huge shortage of ents in general in my area, esp ones that can do the big oncologic surgeries, he could easily find a good hospital employed gig in a larger system if he knows where to look

 

[jondunn]

Huge shortage of ents in general in my area, esp ones that can do the big oncologic surgeries, he could easily find a good hospital employed gig in a larger system if he knows where to look

I mean the guy said he can’t find a job. ‘If he knows where to look’ sounds a lot like ‘network harder!’

#BelieveUnemployedDocs

 

[medgator]

I mean the guy said he can’t find a job. ‘If he knows where to look’ sounds a lot like ‘network harder!’

#BelieveUnemployedDocs

Haven't heard about a Nationwide head and neck surgeon job crunch, but if there is, feel free to provide links to recent opeds or data about it.

Probably would be more useful in the ENT forum though

 

[RickyScott]

I mean the guy said he can’t find a job. ‘If he knows where to look’ sounds a lot like ‘network harder!’

#BelieveUnemployedDocs

It doesn’t sound like he is an ent. He is a general surgeon with oncology fellowship who wants to focus on head and neck in an academic setting. Probably much easier if he was an ent.

 

[jondunn]

It doesn’t sound like he is an ent. He is a general surgeon with oncology fellowship who wants to focus on head and neck in an academic setting. Probably much easier if he was an ent.

What? No this makes zero sense. He’s an ENT who did a head and neck cancer fellowship

Am I taking crazy pills?

 

[jondunn]

Haven't heard about a Nationwide head and neck surgeon job crunch, but if there is, feel free to provide links to recent opeds or data about it.

Probably would be more useful in the ENT forum though

I mean it’s a guy posting in the ENT forum about not being able to find a job, same thing as a rad onc posting here about not finding a job.

 

[medgator]

I mean it’s a guy posting in the ENT forum about not being able to find a job, same thing as a rad onc posting here about not finding a job.

Is there many postings like this? Did they survey their residents showing how a third of them couldn't get a job in their preferred geography?

In any given field, someone will struggle to find a job here and there but it seems disingenuous to try and equate ent to us without the data to back it up

 

[RickyScott]

Is there many postings like this? Did they survey their residents showing how a third of them couldn't get a job in their preferred geography?

In any given field, someone will struggle to find a job here and there but it seems disingenuous to try and equate ent to us without the data to back it up

I mean it’s a guy posting in the ENT forum about not being able to find a job, same thing as a rad onc posting here about not finding a job.

Looked at the wrong forum

 

[jondunn]

not trying to say it’s the same thing, but saw the post, wondered about other onc sub specialties that are small fields like us.

Of course those other fields have backup for general bread and butter. But I’m sure that’s a hard pill to swallow for many, clearly

 

[medgator]

not trying to say it’s the same thing, but saw the post, wondered about other onc sub specialties that are small fields like us.

Of course those other fields have backup for general bread and butter. But I’m sure that’s a hard pill to swallow for many, clearly

That's the thing.... They can still fall back on gen surg or gen ent. I know a rhinoplasty guy who basically opened shop as a general ENT until he was able to go completely to a rhino only practice.

We have no such luxury

 

[Mandelin Rain]

I don't know the head and neck job market ins and outs, but my guess is academic centers (even huge ones) don't need many of them and tend to keep their favorite fellows every 5-10 years. Community seems to be starving for them. If that person was open to non-academic jobs, they'd probably land in 2 seconds. For instance, given their interest in free flaps, I could get them an interview today. Like right now.

EDIT: Doing some quick back of envelope math. There's 70(?) NCI centers. Maybe an average of 6-8 H&N surgeons per center. To make the math round, let's say 500 H&N surgeons in large academic centers. Average career, maybe 25 years. That's about 20 positions per year hiring. Looks like there's 40-50 fellows graduating each year. So yeah, I could see there being a crunch there if someone was interested solely in a big academic center.

 

[jondunn]

sounds like he is looking in community too - I've heard the issue about generalist partners not wanting to deal with your head and neck patients from other ENTs I know. One guy in academics left to PP but with the knowledge that he wouldn't be able to do as much head and neck.

'Any advice on where to go from here? My main passion is doing reconstruction/free flaps, but this isn't something that is easily available out in the private sector, where there seems to be a surplus of general jobs. I've talked to a few recruiters for various posting and some have told me that I'm "too qualified" and one flat out told me that partners have "zero interest" in taking call for my H&N patients. The salary for the general jobs seem great, but I'm dreading doing bread & butter until the market opens up.'

 

[RickyScott]

sounds like he is looking in community too - I've heard the issue about generalist partners not wanting to deal with your head and neck patients from other ENTs I know. One guy in academics left to PP but with the knowledge that he wouldn't be able to do as much head and neck.

'Any advice on where to go from here? My main passion is doing reconstruction/free flaps, but this isn't something that is easily available out in the private sector, where there seems to be a surplus of general jobs. I've talked to a few recruiters for various posting and some have told me that I'm "too qualified" and one flat out told me that partners have "zero interest" in taking call for my H&N patients. The salary for the general jobs seem great, but I'm dreading doing bread & butter until the market opens up.'

Dreading generalist work, that is so fd up? Should not have gone into the field. Can’t imagine what I would say to a radonc who expressed similar sentiment.

 

[DoctwoB]

The more subspecialized you get the smaller the job market gets for those that want to practice only that subspecialty.

In Uro, onc is somewhat saturated. If you want a dedicated onc only job at an academic center, you’ll find one but will be quite limited geographically and often will need to do general urology also as your practice ramps up. Now if you want to join a general private practice as their onc guy who probably does mostly general but gets internally referred the tricky onc cases; the world is your oyster.

Ditto for surg onc and neurosurgery tumor specialists. Would imagine it’s similar for H&N but with the complication of needing a flap program. Ortho onc is so niche you probably won’t see many in PP.

 

[Mandelin Rain]

Dreading generalist work, that is so fd up? Should not have gone into the field. Can’t imagine what I would say to a radonc who expressed similar sentiment.

I could see it for a H&N surgeon who did extra years learning composite resections and free flaps, not wanting to do ear tubes.

 

[Mandelin Rain]

The more subspecialized you get the smaller the job market gets for those that want to practice only that subspecialty.

In Uro, onc is somewhat saturated. If you want a dedicated onc only job at an academic center, you’ll find one but will be quite limited geographically and often will need to do general urology also as your practice ramps up. Now if you want to join a general private practice as their onc guy who probably does mostly general but gets internally referred the tricky onc cases; the world is your oyster.

Ditto for surg onc and neurosurgery tumor specialists. Would imagine it’s similar for H&N but with the complication of needing a flap program. Ortho onc is so niche you probably won’t see many in PP.

Yup. and Yup.

 

[OTN]

Yup. and Yup.

We've had an orthopedic oncologist in our practice for awhile now, but he's retiring. I hope they find someone else- super valuable to have someone to show films who can estimate risk of fracture, stabilize when needed, etc, who also fully understands oncologic care. They operate on kids mostly, however, given the nature of pediatric tumors.

 

[medgator]

Dreading generalist work, that is so fd up? Should not have gone into the field. Can’t imagine what I would say to a radonc who expressed similar sentiment.

Surgeons are doing multiple years of an accredited fellowship to get to where they are at that point. Not the same thing imo.

 

[jondunn]

Definitely plenty of non accredited fellowships in surgical fields ACGME accredited fellowships

One of my most successful friends did a non accredited retina fellowship. They don’t care, just means to an end

 

[seper]

Employed H&N oncology jobs are hard to find lately

 

[fiji128]

Update of the current Astro Career Center Job posting on 02/09/2022 (done via Astro Member search):

Most jobs ever posted. The #38 listing sounds like a sweet deal.

1) Rad Onc community academics with University of North Carolina (Eden, NC).
2) Uro Rads with Solaris Health Partners, Salary $400 to $500K (Chicago Ridge and Joliet, IL).
3) Rad Onc private practice with Lexington Clinic, $150k signing bonus. (Lexington, KY).
4) Rad Onc community academics with Oregon Health and Science University (Roseburg, OR).
5) Rad Onc employed with Genesis Care (Hefner Pointe and Ponca City, OK).
6) Rad Onc employed with Methodist Health System (Omaha, NE).
7) Rad Onc employed with Guthrie Clinic (Sayre, PA).
8) Rac Onc academics with Weil Cornel (New York, NY).
9) Rad Onc employed with Saint Joseph Medical Group (Bardstown, KY).
10) Rad Onc community academics with University of Michigan (Grand Rapids, MI).
11) Rad Onc community academics with University of Maryland (Baltimore, MD).
12) Rad Onc community academics with University of Nebraska (Sioux City, IA).
13) Rad Onc academics with University of Missouri (Columbia, MO).
14) Rad Onc employed with Avera Medical Group (Marshall, MN).
15) Rad Onc employed with Avera Medical Group (Spencer, IA).
16) Rad Onc academics with City of Hope “diversity focus” (Duarte, CA).
17) Rad Onc private practice with West Michigan Cancer Center (Kalamazoo, MI).
18) Rad Onc private practice with Cancer Care Group (Indianapolis, IA).
19) Rad Onc employed with Bassett Healthcare Network (Cooperstown, NY).
20) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (York, PA).
21) Rad Onc community academics with Cleveland Clinic (Stuart, FL).
22) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (Chambersburg, PA).
23) Rad Onc academics with Virginia Commonwealth University (Richmond, VA).
24) Rad Onc academics with Indiana University (Indianapolis, IN).
25) Rad Onc employed with Guam Regional Medical City (Dededo, Guam).
26) Rad Onc private practice with Oncologic Specialists (Mount Clemens, MI).
27) Rad Onc academics with University of Tennessee Health Science Center (Memphis, TN).
28) Rad Onc private practice with Minneapolis Radiation Oncology (Minneapolis, MN).
29) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates of Northern Virginia (Fairfax, VA).
30) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates (Arlington Heights, IL).
31) Rad Onc academics with University of New Mexico (Albuquerque, NM).
32) Rad Onc academics with Cedars-Sinai (Los Angeles, CA).
33) Rad Onc private practice with MultiCare Rockwood Clinic (Spokane, WA).
34) Rad Onc employed with Geisinger (Wilkes-Barre, PA).
35) Rad Onc community academics with UPenn (Lancaster, PA).
36) Rad Onc private practice with Pottstown Regional Radiation Oncology, Salary $350-400k, partnership track, 7 weeks of vacation and participation in a pension plan. (Pottstown and Phoenixville, PA).
37) Rad Onc employed with Southern Ohio Medical Center, Salary $584k (Portsmouth, OH).
38) Rad Onc employed with Elevate Healthcare Solutions, Base Salary $650k with $800k potential, $50K sign on bonus, $100k loan forgiveness (Show Low, AZ).
39) Rad Onc academics with the University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA).
40) Rad Onc employed with Sutter Medical Group (Auburn, CA).
41) Rad Onc employed with AdventHealth Medical Group (Palm Coast, FL).
42) Rad Onc private practice with Tacoma/Valley Radiation Oncology (Washington Peninsula, WA).
43) Rad Onc private practice with Sand Lake Cancer Center (Orlando, FL).
44) Rad Onc private practice with Michiana Hematology Oncology (Mishawaka, IN).
45) Rad Onc employed with Covenant Health (Morristown, TN).
46) Rad Onc employed with Aspirus Health (Wausau, WI).
47) Rad Onc private practice with Washington Permanente Medical Group (Seattle, WA).
48) Rad Onc employed with US Oncology (Covington, GA).
49) Rad Onc employed with US Oncology (Prescott Valley, AZ).
50) Rad Onc private practice with Advocate Radiation Oncology (West Palm Beach, FL).
51) Rad Onc employed with Marshfield Clinic Health System (Eau Claire, WI).
52) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (Chambersburg, PA).
53) Rad Onc employed with Benefis Health System (Great Falls, MT).
54) Rad Onc employed with South Florida Proton Center (Delray Beach, FL).
55) Rad Onc employed with Allegheny Health Network (Pittsburgh, PA).
56) Rad Onc employed with Ascension's Our Lady of Lourdes Memorial Hospital (Binghamton, NY).
57) Rad Onc employed with Kadlec Clinic (Kennewick, WA).
58) Rad Onc private practice with Southern Rad Onc (Carrollton, AL).
59) Rad Onc private practice with MMORA - Herbert Herman Cancer Center (Lansing, MI).
60) Rad Onc academics University of Kentucky (Lexington, KY).
61) Rad Onc community academics with UC San Diego (El Centro, CA).
62) Rad Onc academics with Wake Forest (Winston Salem, NC).

 

[elementaryschooleconomics]

These people will be with us for decades. I have worked with a boomer rad onc who trained during a non-competitive time. He saw as many patients as possible probably 60 on treat, did 5 minute consults, contoured complex head and neck and GI cases in 5 minutes, gave 40 Gy in 5 fractions to bowel, 3 fraction lung sbrt to ultracentral lung, cervix SBRT boost way overdosing small bowel by 2-3x its Gy2 constraint, doesn't follow patients, refuses to admit causes of toxicity and tells patients symptoms are not from radiation, I could go on. This is what you get. It's more than just worrying a glut of new grads affecting our bargaining power for income with hospitals. That's why this website gets a bad rep from the academics. They think it's just a bunch of greedy PP rad oncs trying to scare med students away to protect their income and that's why their residents suck now. It's about training people we KNOW are much more likely to not end up as competent rad oncs.

Haven't checked this thread in a while but - I have also worked with a boomer RadOnc who fits this description to absolute perfection.

People lurking who might have rolled their eyes at this post: please don't. This exists. This is real and not hyperbole. I wish it was.

 

[deleted1116990]

Update of the current Astro Career Center Job posting on 02/09/2022 (done via Astro Member search):

Most jobs ever posted. The #38 listing sounds like a sweet deal.


38) Rad Onc employed with Elevate Healthcare Solutions, Base Salary $650k with $800k potential, $50K sign on bonus, $100k loan forgiveness (Show Low, AZ).

#38 is a fair deal for a very rural practice with about 15-20 patients on treatment (no idea what their situation is). A sweet deal would be 900-1M for the same patient load, a lower patient load, or the the same deal but only requiring Tues-Thurs on site so you could drive out from Scottsdale for a few days.

They are clearly trying to recruit a new grad (loan forgiveness, sign on) to solo position in a rural area with little support. A number of places seem to do this, explicitly wanting new grads in places they really shouldn't be. They want a new grad for a reason in a place where they will have no peers. Raises a lot of red flags IMO.


Edit: Pro tip for new grads: Never accept a sign-on bonus that has strings tied it, such a payback period if you leave or especially if it's structured as deferred income or a loan that is forgiven over time. This is a trick. If the bonus is not free and clear money, decline and negotiate higher salary instead.

 

[communitydoc13]

Most jobs ever posted.

Admittedly best the list has looked for a while. 9 jobs in PA!, mostly ruralish.

 

[deleted1111261]

#38 is a fair deal for a very rural practice with about 15-20 patients on treatment (no idea what their situation is). A sweet deal would be 900-1M for the same patient load, a lower patient load, or the the same deal but only requiring Tues-Thurs on site so you could drive out from Scottsdale for a few days.

They are clearly trying to recruit a new grad (loan forgiveness, sign on) to solo position in a rural area with little support. A number of places seem to do this, explicitly wanting new grads in places they really shouldn't be. They want a new grad for a reason in a place where they will have no peers. Raises a lot of red flags IMO.

Show Low is really, really hard to recruit for. It’s basically a different planet. Rural AZ is not like rural .. MI or MD. It is isolated and challenging. I bet you could set up something where you can earn $1m easily. The coverage part is hard - possibly a job share - one doc 3 days, one 2 days. $600/400k each?

Or they can set up for plane so you can live in valley.

 

[deleted1111261]

Update of the current Astro Career Center Job posting on 02/09/2022 (done via Astro Member search):

Most jobs ever posted. The #38 listing sounds like a sweet deal.

1) Rad Onc community academics with University of North Carolina (Eden, NC).
2) Uro Rads with Solaris Health Partners, Salary $400 to $500K (Chicago Ridge and Joliet, IL).
3) Rad Onc private practice with Lexington Clinic, $150k signing bonus. (Lexington, KY).
4) Rad Onc community academics with Oregon Health and Science University (Roseburg, OR).
5) Rad Onc employed with Genesis Care (Hefner Pointe and Ponca City, OK).
6) Rad Onc employed with Methodist Health System (Omaha, NE).
7) Rad Onc employed with Guthrie Clinic (Sayre, PA).
8) Rac Onc academics with Weil Cornel (New York, NY).
9) Rad Onc employed with Saint Joseph Medical Group (Bardstown, KY).
10) Rad Onc community academics with University of Michigan (Grand Rapids, MI).
11) Rad Onc community academics with University of Maryland (Baltimore, MD).
12) Rad Onc community academics with University of Nebraska (Sioux City, IA).
13) Rad Onc academics with University of Missouri (Columbia, MO).
14) Rad Onc employed with Avera Medical Group (Marshall, MN).
15) Rad Onc employed with Avera Medical Group (Spencer, IA).
16) Rad Onc academics with City of Hope “diversity focus” (Duarte, CA).
17) Rad Onc private practice with West Michigan Cancer Center (Kalamazoo, MI).
18) Rad Onc private practice with Cancer Care Group (Indianapolis, IA).
19) Rad Onc employed with Bassett Healthcare Network (Cooperstown, NY).
20) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (York, PA).
21) Rad Onc community academics with Cleveland Clinic (Stuart, FL).
22) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (Chambersburg, PA).
23) Rad Onc academics with Virginia Commonwealth University (Richmond, VA).
24) Rad Onc academics with Indiana University (Indianapolis, IN).
25) Rad Onc employed with Guam Regional Medical City (Dededo, Guam).
26) Rad Onc private practice with Oncologic Specialists (Mount Clemens, MI).
27) Rad Onc academics with University of Tennessee Health Science Center (Memphis, TN).
28) Rad Onc private practice with Minneapolis Radiation Oncology (Minneapolis, MN).
29) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates of Northern Virginia (Fairfax, VA).
30) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates (Arlington Heights, IL).
31) Rad Onc academics with University of New Mexico (Albuquerque, NM).
32) Rad Onc academics with Cedars-Sinai (Los Angeles, CA).
33) Rad Onc private practice with MultiCare Rockwood Clinic (Spokane, WA).
34) Rad Onc employed with Geisinger (Wilkes-Barre, PA).
35) Rad Onc community academics with UPenn (Lancaster, PA).
36) Rad Onc private practice with Pottstown Regional Radiation Oncology, Salary $350-400k, partnership track, 7 weeks of vacation and participation in a pension plan. (Pottstown and Phoenixville, PA).
37) Rad Onc employed with Southern Ohio Medical Center, Salary $584k (Portsmouth, OH).
38) Rad Onc employed with Elevate Healthcare Solutions, Base Salary $650k with $800k potential, $50K sign on bonus, $100k loan forgiveness (Show Low, AZ).
39) Rad Onc academics with the University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA).
40) Rad Onc employed with Sutter Medical Group (Auburn, CA).
41) Rad Onc employed with AdventHealth Medical Group (Palm Coast, FL).
42) Rad Onc private practice with Tacoma/Valley Radiation Oncology (Washington Peninsula, WA).
43) Rad Onc private practice with Sand Lake Cancer Center (Orlando, FL).
44) Rad Onc private practice with Michiana Hematology Oncology (Mishawaka, IN).
45) Rad Onc employed with Covenant Health (Morristown, TN).
46) Rad Onc employed with Aspirus Health (Wausau, WI).
47) Rad Onc private practice with Washington Permanente Medical Group (Seattle, WA).
48) Rad Onc employed with US Oncology (Covington, GA).
49) Rad Onc employed with US Oncology (Prescott Valley, AZ).
50) Rad Onc private practice with Advocate Radiation Oncology (West Palm Beach, FL).
51) Rad Onc employed with Marshfield Clinic Health System (Eau Claire, WI).
52) Rad Onc employed with WellSpan Health (Chambersburg, PA).
53) Rad Onc employed with Benefis Health System (Great Falls, MT).
54) Rad Onc employed with South Florida Proton Center (Delray Beach, FL).
55) Rad Onc employed with Allegheny Health Network (Pittsburgh, PA).
56) Rad Onc employed with Ascension's Our Lady of Lourdes Memorial Hospital (Binghamton, NY).
57) Rad Onc employed with Kadlec Clinic (Kennewick, WA).
58) Rad Onc private practice with Southern Rad Onc (Carrollton, AL).
59) Rad Onc private practice with MMORA - Herbert Herman Cancer Center (Lansing, MI).
60) Rad Onc academics University of Kentucky (Lexington, KY).
61) Rad Onc community academics with UC San Diego (El Centro, CA).
62) Rad Onc academics with Wake Forest (Winston Salem, NC).

Honestly, not a terrible list. Mostly employed hospital gigs, paying median for probably not terrible hard work.

 

[fiji128]

The rad onc job market is probably the best its been in 5 years based off of job postings. As I've said before I think this has to do with the wave of Covid era retirements rather then any underlying increasing demand/revenue for rad onc.

The reason for posting these ads is generate some reference points (yes I know highly imperfect) for what the job market is doing/trending and to give those med students considering the specialty what the jobs offerings look like.

 

[deleted1116990]

Show Low is really, really hard to recruit for. It’s basically a different planet. Rural AZ is not like rural .. MI or MD. It is isolated and challenging. I bet you could set up something where you can earn $1m easily.

You would be surprised how many of these ultra-rural, like still using your 56k dial-up on your AOL CD-ROM rural, places refuse to budge from median MGMA offers with average PTO and M-F on site.

I'd be shocked if they would cover private plane for rad onc. That's specialty surgeon level benefit dude. Also maybe not the best idea.

 

[TheWallnerus]

The rad onc job market is probably the best its been in 5 years based off of job postings. As I've said before I think this has to do with the wave of Covid era retirements rather then any underlying increasing demand/revenue for rad onc.

The reason for posting these ads is generate some reference points (yes I know highly imperfect) for what the job market is doing/trending.

The Morristown TN job is a retiring MD. Don't know how many on this list fit that bill but it's a few. The Morristown TN site will be in for a shock if they get a new grad who comes in guns blazing with 3 week breast and 4 to 5 week prostate and single fraction bone mets. Their on-beam numbers will get cut in half. They should pray to replace boomer w/ boomer 😉

 

[TheWallnerus]

The rad onc job market is probably the best its been in 5 years based off of job postings. As I've said before I think this has to do with the wave of Covid era retirements rather then any underlying increasing demand/revenue for rad onc.

The reason for posting these ads is generate some reference points (yes I know highly imperfect) for what the job market is doing/trending and to give those med students considering the specialty what the jobs offerings look like.

I agree this is a record! It fully meets the definition of "non-depressing" IMHO.