Astro Career Center and "A Roadmap for Recruiting Medical Students into Radiation Oncology during a Period of Waning Interest"

[Music Man Stan]

No one is buying a $2M place in Manhattan on a $400-500k rad onc salary

I'm just being contrarian but I used to live in a really high cost of living area so I'm pretty familiar with a big mortgage payment :-(. I will say that it's quite common to have a $2 Million place on a $400K salary - you get a 30 year mortgage and your housing payments are about $100K a year so you have another $100K a year to play with, $50K a year for savings, and $150K goes to Uncle Sam. It's actually a pretty good life even if you don't have a high disposable income since you don't really need to buy a car (I used public transit/Uber/Lyft), you can eat at nice dinners because of drug reps, and people always come to visit you while they're visiting the big city.

I think my life now is better but I do have some very fond memories of big city living.

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[medgator]

I'm just being contrarian but I used to live in a really high cost of living area so I'm pretty familiar with a big mortgage payment :-(. I will say that it's quite common to have a $2 Million place on a $400K salary - you get a 30 year mortgage and your housing payments are about $100K a year so you have another $100K a year to play with, $50K a year for savings, and $150K goes to Uncle Sam. It's actually a pretty good life even if you don't have a high disposable income since you don't really need to buy a car (I used public transit/Uber/Lyft), you can eat at nice dinners because of drug reps, and people always come to visit you while they're visiting the big city.

I think my life now is better but I do have some very fond memories of big city living.

Good luck if you want to save extra for FIRE/529s/private school/vacations etc

 

[theradiator]

No one is buying a $2M place in Manhattan on a $400-500k rad onc salary

Actually they are. Remember, many if not most physicians are now dual professional couples. Also many people with the means to go to an elite medical school (back when that was who went into radiation oncology) are independently wealthy so they can also be subsidized by family (most famously Dr. Chino). So absolutely young radiation oncologists are purchasing nice 2 million dollar Manhattan apartments or homes in upscale suburbs.

Supporting a family and building wealth on a single income starting from a negative net worth starting at age >30 in a very high tax environment is another issue altogether.

 

[Mandelin Rain]

Supporting a family and building wealth on a single income starting from a negative net worth starting at age >30 in a very high tax environment is another issue altogether.

 

[Neuronix]

settle for the national average pay forever (because the average RadOnc salary in NYC doesn't go as far as people think)

From what I heard, $400k was the absolute best case scenario.

This is a huge problem and disconnect.

If you're in the private forum, you know $400k is nowhere near the MGMA median for radiation oncology.

Nevertheless, I have never seen a job offering MGMA median, and I have been in practice for five years now. I'm including projected numbers even several years into a new position. Back when I was actively looking for a new job, my search included all sorts of locations as well.

For PGY-5s and recent grads $350k seems "average" and expected. That's actually a good number depending on part of the country (northeast or coastal California drop $50-$100k off that and hope the job doesn't totally suck otherwise). There's a whole generation of rad oncs who did significantly better than this. How the median pay for the whole specialty is not dropping, I am currently unclear. It may have something to do with who is filling out these surveys.

 

[TheWallnerus]

There's a whole generation of rad oncs who did significantly better than this. How the median pay for the whole specialty is not dropping, I am currently unclear. It may have something to do with who is filling out these surveys.

This informational asymmetry is a perfect analogy for multiple issues in our specialty right now. Sort of: we keep getting told, and seeing things published, that say one thing... but see things with our own eyes which are altogether different.

 

[ROforbetterorworse]

This is a huge problem and disconnect.

If you're in the private forum, you know $400k is nowhere near the MGMA median for radiation oncology.

Nevertheless, I have never seen a job offering MGMA median, and I have been in practice for five years now. I'm including projected numbers even several years into a new position. Back when I was actively looking for a new job, my search included all sorts of locations as well.

For PGY-5s and recent grads $350k seems "average" and expected. That's actually a good number depending on part of the country (northeast or coastal California drop $50-$100k off that and hope the job doesn't totally suck otherwise). There's a whole generation of rad oncs who did significantly better than this. How the median pay for the whole specialty is not dropping, I am currently unclear. It may have something to do with who is filling out these surveys.

I don’t believe MGMA

the MGMA raw respondents isn’t that high

Nobody in my graduating class was being offered >330 starting in NYC, Philly, etc

Don’t at me about “I only live an hour away and get more” as that’s clearly not the same

Def agree about affording 1M+ mortgage off 300-500 salary

 

[fiji128]

From my understanding, MGMA numbers include total comp including health insurance, CME, 401K ect. So someone with a take home salary of lets say $400k might actually be making $475k according to MGMA. On the other hand, I have no idea what MGMA methodology is so who knows how accurately their numbers reflect current reality.

 

[elementaryschooleconomics]

I don’t believe MGMA

the MGMA raw respondents isn’t that high

Nobody in my graduating class was being offered >330 starting in NYC, Philly, etc

Don’t at me about “I only live an hour away and get more” as that’s clearly not the same

Def agree about affording 1M+ mortgage off 300-500 salary

Totally agree.

I think the most telling data to come out recently was the ARRO (formerly Terry Wall) data from ASTRO 2020 about wage stagnation, where RadOnc was ranked 19th out of 19 specialties regarding income growth over the last several years (I can't remember the timeframe, I'd need to go back and look).

I know for a fact that starting salaries/contracts which were being offered to new grads this year were virtually unchanged from starting offers/contracts from several years ago...despite that whole pesky inflation phenomenon.

For PGY-5s and recent grads $350k seems "average" and expected. That's actually a good number depending on part of the country (northeast or coastal California drop $50-$100k off that and hope the job doesn't totally suck otherwise). There's a whole generation of rad oncs who did significantly better than this. How the median pay for the whole specialty is not dropping, I am currently unclear. It may have something to do with who is filling out these surveys.

I am also very confused about how the median is not changing. The mean I totally get, my impression is that there's some outliers at the top just pulling down absolute bank and yanking the average off. Therefore, it makes me question the sample population...

 

[StIGMA]

Totally agree.

I think the most telling data to come out recently was the ARRO (formerly Terry Wall) data from ASTRO 2020 about wage stagnation, where RadOnc was ranked 19th out of 19 specialties regarding income growth over the last several years (I can't remember the timeframe, I'd need to go back and look).

I know for a fact that starting salaries/contracts which were being offered to new grads this year were virtually unchanged from starting offers/contracts from several years ago...despite that whole pesky inflation phenomenon.


I am also very confused about how the median is not changing. The mean I totally get, my impression is that there's some outliers at the top just pulling down absolute bank and yanking the average off. Therefore, it makes me question the sample population...

I saw two worse offers (~10-15% less) compared to 3-4 years before then. Which is about 20% less counting inflation. Other places may be nixing annual bonuses. Why pay more if you don't have to, thinks the management.

 

[TheWallnerus]

my impression is that there's some outliers at the top just pulling down absolute bank and yanking the average off.

No one seems really to be talking about this much.

But it's absolutely shocking data #nohyperbole. It needs, like, studied. Or something. It makes looking like the desire to go into radiation oncology and do really well like wanting to go into golf and expecting after ~5-10 years you'll be in the PGA playing on CBS on Sundays.

To explain the graph. That first bin? That's about 1450 rad oncs. That would be roughly 25%-30% of all rad oncs in America. They get paid ~$133,000 or less per year by Medicare.

I am telling you guys. The only way our current rad onc system works is by outrageous payments from private insurances at academic centers.

A good example of "average salary," but even the Atlanta Braves are not as skewed as rad onc....
The Braves' average salary is about $4.1 million, but only 9 players on the team make better than the average because the top guys "mess up" the average.

 

[RickyScott]

“I am telling you guys. The only way our current rad onc system works is by outrageous payments from private insurances at academic centers.”

yes yes yes

 

[Radonc90]

One-fraction SBRT is coming.
Hosp revenues will drop significantly from 5 fractions to 1 fraction...

 

[TheWallnerus]

One-fraction SBRT is coming.
Hosp revenues will drop significantly from 5 fractions to 1 fraction...

Once the *real* overlords see real world downturned revenues, suddenly single fraction won’t be so high value anymore. Hell. It will suddenly become associated with worse survival! You heard it here first.

 

[RadOncDoc21]

Once the *real* overlords see real world downturned revenues, suddenly single fraction won’t be so high value anymore. Hell. It will suddenly become associated with worse survival! You heard it here first.

True, but this could be a Walmart strategy where big academic centers that can afford high tech try to out gain the competition. This was the strategy being used for protons.

I’m not sure why the obsession for one fraction RT when there isn’t an obvious clinical benefit, especially in an area like the lung or abdomen.

That’s probably also going to be their selling point:

“Come here where you can be seen, planned and treated all in one day!”

 

[medgator]

True, but this could be a Walmart strategy where big academic centers that can afford high tech try to out gain the competition. This was the strategy being used for protons.

I’m not sure why the obsession for one fraction RT when there isn’t an obvious clinical benefit, especially in an area like the lung or abdomen.

That’s probably also going to be their selling point:

“Come here where you can be seen, planned and treated all in one day!”

Clearly the 5 fraction thing is enough to help them steal patients from surrounding practices, not sure i would put anything paat them

 

[RickyScott]

True, but this could be a Walmart strategy where big academic centers that can afford high tech try to out gain the competition. This was the strategy being used for protons.

I’m not sure why the obsession for one fraction RT when there isn’t an obvious clinical benefit, especially in an area like the lung or abdomen.

That’s probably also going to be their selling point:

“Come here where you can be seen, planned and treated all in one day!”

Agreed. Strategy is to increasingly tout hypo fraction -which is still very profitable for mdacc because they can charge such high prices. Competitive advantage.

 

[fiji128]

34 Gy x 1 fraction is a great way for high cost academic centers to capture patients who aren't willing to travel for multiple fractions. Hopefully this COI will be clearly stated in any results they publish.

 

[metallica81788]

How many people are we really comfortable offering one fraction lung SBRT for, though? It's already an option for the right situation, which is rare. The candidates to me are extremely limited, 5fx works just fine and gives more cushion on constraints.

 

[Chartreuse Wombat]

One-fraction SBRT is coming.
Hosp revenues will drop significantly from 5 fractions to 1 fraction...

Not if they are in APM zipcode

 

[seper]

One-fraction SBRT is coming.
Hosp revenues will drop significantly from 5 fractions to 1 fraction...

As far as I know, global reimursement and wRVU are the same, 1fx SBRT vs 5fx

 

[RSAOaky]

It starts young

Blink twice if you need help

 

[medgator]

As far as I know, global reimursement and wRVU are the same, 1fx SBRT vs 5fx

No it isn't. Each sbrt fraction carries a daily treatment charge on the technical side at least

 

[TheWallnerus]

No it isn't. Each sbrt fraction carries a daily treatment charge on the technical side at least

And this is why all Cyberknife patients get 5 fractions.

 

[Docmax__67]

W

any particular reason why most of the students are not interested in rad onc??

 

[Chartreuse Wombat]

WView attachment 340674any particular reason why most of the students are not interested in rad onc??

Bad job market

 

[medgator]

WView attachment 340674any particular reason why most of the students are not interested in rad onc??

What chartreuse said. There simply won't be enough good jobs for 190+ graduating radiation oncologists later this decade. We are already seeing it now

 

[deleted1111261]

What chartreuse said. There simply won't be enough good jobs for 190+ graduating radiation oncologists later this decade. We are already seeing it now

I’m very pessimistic about the future.

However, I strongly disagree that we are “already seeing it now”. There are some signs and behavioral practices noted, but employment remains and salaries still quite high. I think saying that weakens our entire premise - that future is bleak if we don’t change ASAP.

When sock puppets say that jobs paying $200-250k for full time work are commonplace, it weakens all the work we are doing. Accuracy is paramount, because we are facing gaslighting. We can’t engage in it ourselves.

 

[Docmax__67]

What chartreuse said. There simply won't be enough good jobs for 190+ graduating radiation oncologists later this decade. We are already seeing it now

Why the demand for rad oncs is falling down.? Any specific reason why all the graduating radoncs are not getting jobs?

 

[medgator]

I’m very pessimistic about the future.

However, I strongly disagree that we are “already seeing it now”. There are some signs and behavioral practices noted, but employment remains and salaries still quite high. I think saying that weakens our entire premise - that future is bleak if we don’t change ASAP.

When sock puppets say that jobs paying $200-250k for full time work are commonplace, it weakens all the work we are doing. Accuracy is paramount, because we are facing gaslighting. We can’t engage in it ourselves.

But yeah let's just ignore every other sock puppet and the arguments they bring to the table because they were off the mark on one fact. Definitely a nice poison the well fallacy you got going there. Btw, certain individuals gaslight and misrepresent on the bird too, esp when it comes to hot button topics like the job market, financially toxic sites of service etc

Geography ****tier. Partnership track ****tier. But yes, theyre making $300-350k minimum starting so it's all good. What did mudits survey about the various regions? It wasn't all milk and honey that's for sure. You could ask for Chicago and get Marquette MI which would still check a box! Pretty sure El Dorado AR got a great job, but at the end of the day it will still check the "Southeast" box for someone looking for a job in Houston or Atlanta

I know for a fact certain sunbelt metros were tight for good jobs 3-5 years ago. Fairly certain things didn't magically improve in those metros with more grads hitting the market

 

[medgator]

Why the demand for rad oncs is falling down.? Any specific reason why all the graduating radoncs are not getting jobs?

If there is demand/strong need at 110 per year but now we are graduating closer to double that, what do you think that does to the overall picture?

 

[TheWallnerus]

WView attachment 340674any particular reason why most of the students are not interested in rad onc??

People like freedom.

 

[TheWallnerus]

I’m very pessimistic about the future.

However, I strongly disagree that we are “already seeing it now”. There are some signs and behavioral practices noted, but employment remains and salaries still quite high. I think saying that weakens our entire premise - that future is bleak if we don’t change ASAP.

When sock puppets say that jobs paying $200-250k for full time work are commonplace, it weakens all the work we are doing. Accuracy is paramount, because we are facing gaslighting. We can’t engage in it ourselves.

You know I'm a stickler for accuracy. I know of an established attending in coastal eastern US sacked for business reasons and she can't find a job. In any other specialty, she'd just go across the street or at worst 10 or 20 miles away. Instead, been many months without a job and probably has to head up north. These stories are pretty common in rad onc. How is Tom Eichler? Why can no one figure out if he's working? I feel gaslit about that lol (I hope he's working, if he wants to). Yes, there's employment. But not as much as other specialties. It's very, very tight. The margins for success or failure are very thin. I know in my heart of hearts I am not gaslighting because I have witnessed the past! In one of your posts you said get a 4-day a week job. Agree this is ideal. But if you interview and want the 4 day gig and someone else doesn't mention that, guess who gets the job. These "anecdotes" are difficult to display with a single metric. Sometimes, narrative and story-telling is all you or I can do.

 

[deleted1111261]

Sure, but if we rely on “I heard so and so isn’t getting a job”, but actual employment rates (bad or good) are static, we have to dig a
bit deeper. And, also identify / delineate what makes a job good or bad.

Our moderator here is an academic that is far more notable in their achievements than me claims that they can’t find something that surpasses what they have. I can’t say I’ve found perfection, but I think *currently* if I apply broadly, I’ve found things. And that’s the way it’s been for me personally for 10+ years. So, then you wonder - is it the person or are they right and I’ve been just extremely lucky?

So, @medgator isn’t necessarily wrong, but blanket statements make it hard to find truth. Luckily, we have Mudit, Jimmy Bates, Trevor Royce, Chirag doing the work. McFarlane and The Todd coming up with a lot of visual data and analysis, so people are hearing data driven arguments.

 

[medgator]

You know I'm a stickler for accuracy. I know of an established attending in coastal eastern US sacked for business reasons and she can't find a job. In any other specialty, she'd just go across the street or at worst 10 or 20 miles away. Instead, been many months without a job and probably has to head up north. These stories are pretty common in rad onc. How is Tom Eichler? Why can no one figure out if he's working? I feel gaslit about that lol (I hope he's working, if he wants to). Yes, there's employment. But not as much as other specialties. It's very, very tight. The margins for success or failure are very thin. I know in my heart of hearts I am not gaslighting because I have witnessed the past! In one of your posts you said get a 4-day a week job. Agree this is ideal. But if you interview and want the 4 day gig and someone else doesn't mention that, guess who gets the job. These "anecdotes" are difficult to display with a single metric. Sometimes, narrative and story-telling is all you or I can do.

The general gist i get is that rural and Midwest locations are still fairly open (utah, as an example though, has been a notoriously difficult market to get a job in during any given cycle as much of the population is dry leading to less of a need for RO labor).

Northeast also open to a degree (big cities always can be tough) although salaries are less generous than rural/Midwest locations. West coast and sunbelt metros tightest. Still jobs in rural cali, AR, OK, TX etc that can pay well. This is my gestalt having looked for jobs for myself and others over the last decade, talked to others and checking out what actually makes it to Astro, practice link etc

 

[RadOncDoc21]

The general gist i get is that rural and Midwest locations are still fairly open (utah, as an example though, has been a notoriously difficult market to get a job in during any given cycle as much of the population is dry leading to less of a need for RO labor).

Northeast also open to a degree (big cities always can be tough) although salaries are less generous than rural/Midwest locations. West coast and sunbelt metros tightest. Still jobs in rural cali, AR, OK, TX etc that can pay well. This is my gestalt having looked for jobs for myself and others over the last decade, talked to others and checking out what actually makes it to Astro, practice link etc

Similar to my experiences also. I’ve been fortunate that at the times I moved on, there was an opportunity in the location I wanted to go to but really no other choices or opportunities in places with biriyani.

 

[Neuronix]

I’m very pessimistic about the future.

However, I strongly disagree that we are “already seeing it now”. There are some signs and behavioral practices noted, but employment remains and salaries still quite high. I think saying that weakens our entire premise - that future is bleak if we don’t change ASAP.

When sock puppets say that jobs paying $200-250k for full time work are commonplace, it weakens all the work we are doing. Accuracy is paramount, because we are facing gaslighting. We can’t engage in it ourselves.

If you see any suspected sock puppets please report them. We define sock puppeting as someone creating multiple accounts and then agreeing with themselves to amplify their message. This is strictly forbidden. I frequently check for this.

Our moderator here is an academic that is far more notable in their achievements than me claims that they can’t find something that surpasses what they have. I can’t say I’ve found perfection, but I think *currently* if I apply broadly, I’ve found things. And that’s the way it’s been for me personally for 10+ years. So, then you wonder - is it the person or are they right and I’ve been just extremely lucky?

It is definitely me. Also, yeah I might find something in rural Wisconsin if they finally fire me out of here. Maybe. My clinical mentor when I started this job only wanted to be in a major city, finally got so sick of working here that he quit, went unemployed for ~6 months, and is now in rural Wisconsin. We lost on average 2 people per year and I've been at this for a few years, so I've seen all sorts of things from unemployed for a long time, never working as a clinical rad onc again, or using connections to find an equivalent academic gig. That plus my own job searches, the experiences of people I trained with, people I train now, and friends over the years has created a great picture of the job market for me. I'm just glad to be full-time employed. You all can tell me my hours are too high, my pay is too low, etc. But, as long as I'm not miserable walking in the door, that's the equivalent of my nirvana. It's good to be employed. Seen too much illness and death in my personal life over the past few weeks so I'm not going to sit here and complain. It could always be worse.

And good for you Simul. Glad you're in a position where you can speak truth to power and get away with it. You know I cheer you on.

 

[Neuronix]

Rad Onc positions in Colorado are rarely posted but there have been a few. It will be interesting to see if they will now disclose salary as required by law.

Many Companies Want Remote Workers—Except From Colorado

After a new state law that requires employers to disclose salaries for open positions, some are advertising jobs available anywhere in the U.S. but Colorado.

www.wsj.com

'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:"CO"' Jobs | ASTRO Radiation Oncology Career Center

3,159 'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:

careers.astro.org

They did it.

"This is a part time position ranging from 20-25 hours per week

Wages range from $150.00-$175 an hour"

So... ~$150k-$200k year.

 

[thecarbonionangle]

'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:"CO"' Jobs | ASTRO Radiation Oncology Career Center

3,159 'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:

careers.astro.org

They did it.

"This is a part time position ranging from 20-25 hours per week

Wages range from $150.00-$175 an hour"

So... ~$150k-$200k year.

Work part time in denver, ski, manage your side gig dispensary on side vs dead end “full time” hellpit job. These jobs will become competitive as we continue to spin around the toilet on our way to the drain. It is a race to the bottom.

 

[RSAOaky]

I somehow stumbled into my current (and only) position in a large northeastern city. My only connection was that someone I'd met on the interview trail and loosely kept in touch with knew someone that worked here. It was pure luck and I certainly wasn't the first choice. If I were to leave this job, I am fairly confident that with enough time I could find a position in an area that I am already connected in, but would probably be SOL otherwise.

When we opened up a position last year (that we then closed due to COVID/APM), the only applicants we even considered were people we knew or people our mutual colleagues knew and spoke highly of. There are too many applicants to narrow down otherwise. If you aren't from a big program, don't effectively network during residency, and are not a peoples' person, your bubble becomes very small very quick and good luck getting a good job. If you wind up taking a rural job out of residency, good luck getting a second one in a competitive region. These are signs of a bad job market. Good starting jobs are limited and lateral mobility is restricted. People who take undesirable jobs are stigmatized unless there is someone that can directly vouch for them. While networking is important in any field, I cannot think of many other fields in medicine where it is a pre-requisite to BEING CONSIDERED for a job in a remotely desirable place.

 

[medgator]

'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:"CO"' Jobs | ASTRO Radiation Oncology Career Center

3,159 'part OR time OR radiation OR oncologist OR STATECODE:

careers.astro.org

They did it.

"This is a part time position ranging from 20-25 hours per week

Wages range from $150.00-$175 an hour"

So... ~$150k-$200k year.

There's your "1/3" job. Decent Location with **** job/salary.

Online or telephone medical surveys pay more per hour. Way more. Got $300 this year for a 45 min h&n survey on a new product they are looking to roll out for mucositis.

If that makes you angry, thank Dennis Hallahan at Wash U

 

[RadOncDoc21]

There's your "1/3" job. Decent Location with **** job/salary.

Online or telephone medical surveys pay more per hour. Way more. Got $300 this year for a 45 min h&n survey on a new product they are looking to roll out for mucositis.

If that makes you angry, thank Dennis Hallahan at Wash U

Man, that’s horrible… my damn nurse gets more than that job posting does per hour.

 

[Gfunk6]

I somehow stumbled into my current (and only) position in a large northeastern city. My only connection was that someone I'd met on the interview trail and loosely kept in touch with knew someone that worked here. It was pure luck and I certainly wasn't the first choice. If I were to leave this job, I am fairly confident that with enough time I could find a position in an area that I am already connected in, but would probably be SOL otherwise.

When we opened up a position last year (that we then closed due to COVID/APM), the only applicants we even considered were people we knew or people our mutual colleagues knew and spoke highly of. There are too many applicants to narrow down otherwise. If you aren't from a big program, don't effectively network during residency, and are not a peoples' person, your bubble becomes very small very quick and good luck getting a good job. If you wind up taking a rural job out of residency, good luck getting a second one in a competitive region. These are signs of a bad job market. Good starting jobs are limited and lateral mobility is restricted. People who take undesirable jobs are stigmatized unless there is someone that can directly vouch for them. While networking is important in any field, I cannot think of many other fields in medicine where it is a pre-requisite to BEING CONSIDERED for a job in a remotely desirable place.

This post brings up an excellent point. Even if you are in a stable and decent job, you never know when the winds of fate will blow. You need to continue networking with people throughout your professional life. Keep all options open.

 

[TheWallnerus]

There's your "1/3" job. Decent Location with **** job/salary.

Online or telephone medical surveys pay more per hour. Way more. Got $300 this year for a 45 min h&n survey on a new product they are looking to roll out for mucositis.

If that makes you angry, thank Dennis Hallahan at Wash U

ASTRO needs to delist this job because it really puts a serious dent in that whole MGMA salary jazz, a jazz which supports so many ongoing false narratives and fantasies 🙂

 

[medgator]

ASTRO needs to delist this job because it really puts a serious dent in that whole MGMA salary jazz, a jazz which supports so many ongoing false narratives and fantasies 🙂

ASTRO needs to leave it up. Certainly belongs up there more than a gyn onc or cancer center janitor posting does.

It's potentially the future for those in training and not in training yet if they want a job in a decent location. Listen to the canary in the coal mine job posting!

 

[seper]

There's your "1/3" job. Decent Location with **** job/salary.

Online or telephone medical surveys pay more per hour. Way more. Got $300 this year for a 45 min h&n survey on a new product they are looking to roll out for mucositis.

If that makes you angry, thank Dennis Hallahan at Wash U

Wow that posting is depressing

 

[fiji128]

Update of the current Astro Career Center Job posting on 8/9/2021:



1) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates (Milwaukee, WI).
2) Rad Onc academics with Yale (New Haven, CT).
3) Rad Onc community academics with West Virginia University (Wheeling, WV).
4) Rad Onc part time private practice with hospital based group (Suburban Detroit, MI).
5) Rad Onc hospital employed with Swedish Medical/HCA (South Denver Metro, CO). Position does not list salary as required by Colorado State Law.
6) Rad Onc private practice with NY Cancer and Blood Specialists (Patchogue, NY).
7) Rad Onc private practice Palmetto Radiation Oncology (Florence, SC).
8) Rad Onc academic with University of Arkansas (Little Rock, AR).
9) Rad Onc academics with Mass Gen (Boston, MA).
10) Rad Onc private practice with Lake Region Medical Group (Fergus Falls, MN).
11) Rad Onc employed with Baptist Health (New Albany, IN).
12) Rad Onc hospital employed Con Secours Mercy Health (Norfolk, VA).
13) Rad Onc academics with University of South Florida (Tampa, FL).
14) Uro Rads part time with Urology Associates at $150-$175/hr for 20-25 hrs/week (Denver, CO).
15) Rad Onc employed with Ballad Health (Abingdon, VA).
16) Rad Onc private practice with Tampa Oncology and Proton (Tampa, FL).
17) Rad Onc private practice with Beverly Hills Cancer Center (Los Aneles, CA).
18) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates (El Dorado, AK).
19) Rad Onc hospital employed with Nebraska Methodist Hospital (Omaha, NE).
20) Rad Onc employed with eviCore (Work From Home).
21) Rad Onc private practice with Radiation Oncology Associates of New England (Burlington, MA).
22) Rad Onc private practice with Advocate Radiation Oncology (West Palm Beach, FL).
23) Rad Onc private practice with Advocate Radiation Oncology (Naples, FL).
24) Rad Onc community academics with Medical University of South Carolina (Murrell’s Inlet, SC).
25) Rad Onc employed with Mercy Clinic (Fort Smith, AK).
26) Rad Onc hospital employed at the Marshfield Medical Center (Eau Claire, WI).
27) Rad Onc VA medical center (New Albany, NY).
28) Rad Onc private practice at Kadlec Clinic (Kennewick, WA).
29) Rad Onc academics with Penn State Health (Hershey, PA).
30) Rad Onc employed via Jackson Physician Search 100K sign on bonus (Southwest, MN).
31 ) Rad Onc hospital employeed Southern California Permanente Medical Group per diem (Los Angeles, CA).
32) Rad Onc VA medical center (Jackson, MS).
33) Rad Onc employed at the Guthrie Clinic (Corning, NY).
34) Rad Onc hospital employed with Geisinger (Danville, PA).
35) Rad Onc hospital employed with Benefis Health System (Great Falls, MT).
36) Rad Onc VA medical center (Memphis, TN).

 

[fiji128]

Thought this mostly fits for rad onc.

Emergency Medicine News,
The Dark Age of Job Scarcity and Zero Leverage.

Life in Emergistan: The Dark Age of Job Scarcity and Zero... : Emergency Medicine News

An abstract is unavailable.

journals.lww.com

 

[Neuronix]

5) Rad Onc hospital employed with Swedish Medical/HCA (South Denver Metro, CO). Position does not list salary as required by Colorado State Law.

I reported them to the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment for violation of state law. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

 

[medgator]

I reported them to the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment for violation of state law. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Prob too embarrassed to publish it, many of us knowing what it is