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ok, So I believe attrition rate is the best Red Flag indicator for whether a school has a faulty system anything above 6.0% I think it's sketchy I would like to know where can I get this numbers or can someone please list their attrition rate at their current school I understand that people leave for many different reasons but once an attrition rate is above 10% I think it is easy to say that the school system is at fault here.

can you guys take the time to post the name of the school year and the percent I think a lot of students can benefit from this greatly. Please give your 2 cents
 

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ok, So I believe attrition rate is the best Red Flag indicator for whether a school has a faulty system anything above 6.0% I think it's sketchy I would like to know where can I get this numbers or can someone please list their attrition rate at their current school I understand that people leave for many different reasons but once an attrition rate is above 10% I think it is easy to say that the school system is at fault here.

can you guys take the time to post the name of the school year and the percent I think a lot of students can benefit from this greatly. Please give your 2 cents
These are questions you can ask in your interview
 

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ok, So I believe attrition rate is the best Red Flag indicator for whether a school has a faulty system anything above 6.0% I think it's sketchy I would like to know where can I get this numbers or can someone please list their attrition rate at their current school I understand that people leave for many different reasons but once an attrition rate is above 10% I think it is easy to say that the school system is at fault here.

can you guys take the time to post the name of the school year and the percent I think a lot of students can benefit from this greatly. Please give your 2 cents
This topic was discussed on SDN previously. Please use search function.

First. I do not think it is the best indicator. There are so many factors. I have seen here on SDN, that for some year, AZPOD had 3 people withdrawn (out of 30 = 10%) during the year, but they were due to personal reasons. There are various factors for the attrition rate. I think attrition rate has the least to do with faulty system of the school. I have heard that often POD schools are even harder than some MD or DO schools.

Second. Caribbean schools have huge attrition rates (I heard up to 50%). Still, the ones that graduate become physicians. So, not so much about the school as what motivation you have, preparation, resilience and determination.

Third. If one is ready for med school curriculum, he/she should not be worried so much about the rate because they will pass or even excel in academics anyways.

I think attrition rates are not much about the school as much about students that come to these schools. Caribbean schools take many students that failed to get into MD/DO or even POD schools in the USA. What does it tell you about these students? They are not academically strong and more likely will not be successful even in Caribbean schools.

I think that students that get into POD schools or Caribbean often found easy roads to get to their final destination in academics. When they come to medical schools and easily get in with low stats, they again think that they will slide with the same attitude. Getting in easily - does not mean staying in easily. This is I think big factor of higher attrition rates in Caribbean or Pod schools, when student with low stats think that they will not have to work hard.

For the POD schools in USA, there are some students that failed to get into MD/DO and for them Podiatry is back door into medicine. Will these students be very highly motivated? Will they be academically ready of their GPA is below 3.0? Will they have the same enthusiasm and self-drive for going through hard curriculum load?

I think - No.

These students that are average or better in undergrad and have genuine interest in podiatry, have nothing to worry about these attrition rates.
 
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If you average the 4 year graduation rates of all the pod schools you would be looking at about 80%. To put that into context, the average US MD school 4 year graduation rate is usually around 83%.

Once you start looking at 5 or 6 year graduation rates it goes up into the low to mid 90s% for both DPM and MD.
 

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Kent student here and I don't think Ive recognized any source of attrition at this school this cycle; albiet I spend most of my free time at home watching tv or playing video games (So I don't know my classmates) but from my experience at Kent, any attrition would be more of a personal issue because the school provides ample resources for you to at least pass your classes if not do well.
The rumor is its about 15%
 
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Going to a school that has both d.o. and dpm students I promise you podiatry school is easier.
 

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Why rely on a rumor. All the podiatry schools are supposed to be publishing this on their websites as "CPME Outcomes" data.

From their own website Kent's 4 year graduate rate is 71%. That's an averaged value. For an even bigger laugh, Kent publishes 6 year graduation rates.

https://du1ux2871uqvu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/file/2017-2018 CPME Outcomes.pdf
It is kind of low for 6 years. Not a big difference from 4 year as one would expect.

But again, these stats have to be analyzed objectively. What are the reasons that these people do not graduate.

As I have heard from others, there are students who use Podiatry as a back up and even in their first year they get accepted to MD/Do or some other field in medicine and they leave from Podiatry schools. That is another factor to consider.

The attachment shows Outcome data for Barry: 82% for 4 years and 97% Residency Placement. I think it is great.

DMU 88% graduation and 99% residency. Scholl 82% and 95%

AZPOD (BELOW)

BOARD EXAMINATION PASS RATE (2014-2016)
Part I APMLE Pass Rate 2014-2016 (first-time test takers) 97%

Part II APMLE Pass Rate 2015-2017 (first- time test takers) 97%

Part II APMLE CSPE Pass Rate 2014-2016 (first time test takers): 97%

Four Year Graduation Rate (2015-2017 average) 90%*

Residency Placement Rate (2015-2017 average): 97%1**


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CPME-required outcomes, July 1, 2017
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Part 1 APMLE Pass Rate 2014-2016 (first-time takers only) 84%

Part 2 APMLE Written Pass Rate 2015-2017 (first-time takers only) 84%

Part 2 APMLE CSPE Pass Rate 2014-2016 (first-time takers only) 97%

Four-year Graduation Rate 2015-2017 (average) 90%

Residency Placement Rate 2015-2017 (average) 92%


Temple (below)
APMLE Part 1 pass rate First attempt 82.3%
Second attempt 94.0%
APMLE Part 2 pass rate First attempt 82.6%
Cumulative, through second attempt 97.0%
Residency placement rate In match 83.2%
By end of “scramble” 94.8%
Graduation rate Within four years 85.7%
Within six years 92.7%
 

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As a WesternU student where the medical curriculum and respective grading standards are identical, I would kindly beg to differ.
Agreed. The classes we take with the MD students here at Scholl, are tested and graded in the same manner.
 

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As a WesternU student where the medical curriculum and respective grading standards are identical, I would kindly beg to differ.
I believe western students are also taking the USMLE soon which means their curriculum is on par with the DO students as you said. I was a former carrib student and even at Kent I can say the material is just as difficult if not more difficult than Caribbean.
 

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I believe western students are also taking the USMLE soon which means their curriculum is on par with the DO students as you said. I was a former carrib student and even at Kent I can say the material is just as difficult if not more difficult than Caribbean.
Did you go to MD Carribean school?

did you finish it?
 

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Did you go to MD Carribean school?

did you finish it?
pretty sure they are all MD programs in the Carribbean, I went to sgu though. No I didnt, I left after about a month to pursue podiatry and DO programs.
 

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7K584D is still bitter.

Just look at their post history.
 
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