Back to basics WW again

[PippyPony]

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was entirely a slip on my part. mafia/werewolf indicates the same thing

Thank god -- was not looking forward to combing back through every post and fractionating everything.

 

[HowConfusing]

Thank goodness

 

[Trilt]

I'll do it later today. Will try, anyway. Advance warning, you are going to be disappointed. Lotta shooting from the hip in my early run-through.

Nah I know what early game is like, no worries. If you want to add on what made you feel kc was village too (and your current opinion there) that'd also be appreciated.

 

[Abnerrs]

Good good. Think we're safe to assume one pack again.

I was really not happy with 2 groups either.

 

[Abnerrs]

I kind of don't buy another neutral character. MAYBE a night vig? I don't really buy that either. What makes the most sense to me is they have a pack 1 kill ability plus either like one person has an eon kill or they have am eon boost. Something along those lines.


I think someone mentioned it but that makes me think stl didn't kill anyone.

 

[Abnerrs]

AM seems like a good place to put a vote for sure.

I'm also not feeling super good about Cyndia. She is setting off my tingles. There have been more posts recently I suppose but just like... awesome? Nessie?... I keep forgetting she's playing.

 

[PippyPony]

I can best explain myself when asked questions/interrogated.

I think multiple people have asked for your current reads on the remaining players. Something more substantial than 2-3 sentences would be helpful.

People always end up having blank spots on their spreadsheet about me, so if you want to ask me questions to fill those gaps. Go ahead.

I dunno what else you want us to ask you. "Are you a wolf?"

 

[Abnerrs]

I dunno what else you want us to ask you. "Are you a wolf?"

I lol'd

 

[Animal Midwife]

My suspicions from most to least are:

nessy - Jumped off the Jil vote quickly when questioned about suspicion list.

Ski - I feel like stuff between her and cdo on the first day was strange. Also, how it's all water under the bridge now with no further questioning.

finn - I'd like to hear more from her. I'm not at the point of lynching, but my interests been piqued by the low amount of direct suspicions.

Abnerrs - May just be left-over feelings, but I don't feel totally confident about her being villager

Cyndia - still kind of wondering about her, but other have said there not much to be worried about since she's posting more. So, I'll put that on the backburner for now.


I'm think a night vilgilante would probably be overkill since STL, so we're likely looking at a bonus kill.

And, no. I'm not a wolf.

 

[Abnerrs]

My suspicions from most to least are:

nessy - Jumped off the Jil vote quickly when questioned about suspicion list.

Ski - I feel like stuff between her and cdo on the first day was strange. Also, how it's all water under the bridge now with no further questioning.

finn - I'd like to hear more from her. I'm not at the point of lynching, but my interests been piqued by the low amount of direct suspicions.

Abnerrs - May just be left-over feelings, but I don't feel totally confident about her being villager

Cyndia - still kind of wondering about her, but other have said there not much to be worried about since she's posting more. So, I'll put that on the backburner for now.


I'm think a night vilgilante would probably be overkill since STL, so we're likely looking at a bonus kill.

And, no. I'm not a wolf.

Lol. Left over feelings from...?

 

[awesomenessity]

nessy - Jumped off the Jil vote quickly when questioned about suspicion list.

Pretty sure if I was a wolf I would have stayed voting for Jil considering she was very obviously going to be lynched. Easier to hide that way. So I don't think my waffling there is inherently wolfy.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lol. Left over feelings from...?

The trust in the DRoP game.

 

[Abnerrs]

The trust in the DRoP game.

Ooooooooh yeeeaaaah! I'm so sorry about that!

 

[Abnerrs]

Omg. I totally forgot it was you that vouched stu hard for me! 🤣

Oh man. I felt so guilty. You were so cute!

 

[allyphoe]

In no particular order within groups -

"There's a wolf in here":
AM
awesomenessity
finn
SnowshoeDog143
(There's enough infighting between them that I think it's unlikely that they're all wolves, but I think it's even less likely that they're all village.)

Less wolfy, but still wolfy:
serher
WZ

Less village, but still village:
LIS
PippyPony

Pretty sure most of these people are village:
SkiOtter
HowConfusing
Trilt
mmmdreamerz
kcoughli
Cyndia
Abnerrs
Coopah
ally 😀

I really find it difficult to read people based on comments, so these are pretty much entirely based on analysis of the voting trends. Probably subconsciously influenced by other people's suspicions, because it's hard to avoid that.

Also, I forced myself to put every player into either the wolf pile or the village pile, even when I wasn't particularly happy about that. So if anyone feels inclined to defend themselves based on my list, what I'd really like you to do is put out a list with every player and whether you think they're a wolf or a villager.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Pretty sure if I was a wolf I would have stayed voting for Jil considering she was very obviously going to be lynched. Easier to hide that way. So I don't think my waffling there is inherently wolfy.

Maybe not, but I thought you wanted to test out STL's theory?

 

[awesomenessity]

Maybe not, but I thought you wanted to test out STL's theory?

I did when I only had a slight villager lean on Jil. After learning we had very similar opinions on who was wolfy I felt she was more villagery so decided not to lynch her. Obviously I was rused. lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

Omg. I totally forgot it was you that vouched stu hard for me! 🤣

Oh man. I felt so guilty. You were so cute!

 

[Abnerrs]

I'm still chuckling. Lol omg

 

[WildZoo]

Let's stop talking about DRoP, mmkay?

I did a thing last night where I went through and color coded the final vote tallies but lo and behold the colors don't transfer over from word so I'm going to work on redoing that I suppose.

 

[WildZoo]

Not entirely sure how helpful it is, but here we go. These wolf vs wolf lynch days are hard to analyze, at least in terms of the final vote.

Unofficial lynch tally:
Serher 1 (cyndia)
Coopah 3 (lyra, finn, zen,)
Ally ()
Cyndia ()
Finn 2 (Pippy, AM)
nessy 1 (serher,)
Confusing 1 (nyan)
cdo 5 (ski, SAR, confusing, STL, coop)
Lyra 1 (Doc-S)
AM 1 (nessy)
LIS 1 (DVMD)
Raf 3 (Trilt, 3m, Abs)
Ski 2 (Jil, ,Snowshoe)
STL ()
snowy 1 (raf)
Jil 4 (, ally, WZ, cdo, KC )

26/27

Please check your votes, no other talk besides vote correction.

Day 2 Official Lynch Tally:

Jil (6)- STL, WZ, AM, Zen, ally, LIS
STL (2)- Nyan, KC,
AM (3)- SAR, nessy, Snowy
Abs (1)- DocS
Raf (7)- Trilt, serher, DVMD, jil, 3m, abners, confusing
Cyndia (1) - Ski, raf
Ally (2) - finn, Coopah
Zen (1) - Pippy

23/25

Official lynch tally d3:
abnerrs 1 - DVMD
finn -
Zen 12 - trilt, Pippy, LIS, Dr. S, nessy, WZ, SAR, mmm, ally, Ski, Jil, Finn
Jil 8 - snowshoe, AM, Abnerrs, kc, serher, confusing, Coopah, Cyndia

21/22

check the votes please and no other posts. 🙂

Official lynch tally
Jilary 11 - ally, dr.s, serher, confused, coopah, wz, 3m, LIS, abs, jil, finn
AM 1 - SARS
12/20

DAY CLOSED RESULTS PENDING

 

[PippyPony]

Not entirely sure how helpful it is, but here we go. These wolf vs wolf lynch days are hard to analyze, at least in terms of the final vote.

Welp, I see at least one pattern (although whether or not it's totally tinfoil is another story). Anyone else see that almost every person who's died -- with the exception of lyra -- has been the lone voter on someone at some point? It popped out at me because it's easier to see on the last 2 days, but I had forgotten that Dr. S was the only voter for Abs on D2.

 

[finnickthedog]

Welp, I see at least one pattern (although whether or not it's totally tinfoil is another story). Anyone else see that almost every person who's died -- with the exception of lyra -- has been the lone voter on someone at some point? It popped out at me because it's easier to see on the last 2 days, but I had forgotten that Dr. S was the only voter for Abs on D2.

I doubt that means anything. It's too vague of a pattern. Maybe if they were all a lone voter just before getting killed or they were all lone voters on the same person or something. But just that were the lone voter for someone at some point? Probably coincidence.

 

[PippyPony]

I doubt that means anything. It's too vague of a pattern. Maybe if they were all a lone voter just before getting killed or they were all lone voters on the same person or something. But just that were the lone voter for someone at some point? Probably coincidence.

Yeah ok, you're probably right - too flimsy/meaningless. Doesn't play out anyways with the dispersion of voters D1 & D2. It just made me go "huh. look at that"

Not entirely sure how helpful it is, but here we go. These wolf vs wolf lynch days are hard to analyze, at least in terms of the final vote.

I think the hardest part for me is analyzing yesterday, because Jil cut the vote short with her wolf-icidal ways. Requires going back and parsing out who was headed that way vs. who was waffley.

 

[deleted806434]

From looking at the votes, I noticed that two lone voters on Abs have been killed--DVMD and DrS. Might not mean anything, but I thought it was worth mentioning and coming back to later.

Looking back at the D2 vote now (between Jil and raf), I am a little concerned about the people that jumped in on the sweet spot of the Jil vote. After rereading a bit, it seemed to me like it was probably more clear to the wolves that Jil was going down rather than raf. Although raf also got votes the first day, with all of the Jil commotion the first day I could see a wolf assuming that Jil was almost certainly being voted off D2. A wolf would be luckier to get in on the sweet spot of the raf vote because it wasn't as expected. I saw Jil's vote as more of a self-preservation than anything so I wasn't necessarily counting that in this analysis. It might be wrong but those are my thoughts.

 

[Cyndia]

From looking at the votes, I noticed that two lone voters on Abs have been killed--DVMD and DrS. Might not mean anything, but I thought it was worth mentioning and coming back to later.

Looking back at the D2 vote now (between Jil and raf), I am a little concerned about the people that jumped in on the sweet spot of the Jil vote. After rereading a bit, it seemed to me like it was probably more clear to the wolves that Jil was going down rather than raf. Although raf also got votes the first day, with all of the Jil commotion the first day I could see a wolf assuming that Jil was almost certainly being voted off D2. A wolf would be luckier to get in on the sweet spot of the raf vote because it wasn't as expected. I saw Jil's vote as more of a self-preservation than anything so I wasn't necessarily counting that in this analysis. It might be wrong but those are my thoughts.

I was kind of eyeing the ones that jumped on raf towards the end (3m, abners, confusing) - I need to reread the section you're referring to again, but I feel like when it was clear either Jil or raf were going down, if I were a wolf I would have opted to jump on raf. Jil seemed more likely to talk herself out of a lynch while raf was kind of floundering as a newbie. Also since STL hadn't spouted any concrete evidence regarding Jil, just his usual psychobabble. Granted if STL had been outed as a seer both would have been screwed anyways, but at that moment, I think Jil was more likely to succeed at saving herself.

 

[deleted806434]

I also skimmed back through Jil's posts and nothing stuck out to me as being extremely useful. A lot of it was probably bs since she was thrown up for lynch so early

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

From looking at the votes, I noticed that two lone voters on Abs have been killed--DVMD and DrS. Might not mean anything, but I thought it was worth mentioning and coming back to later.

Looking back at the D2 vote now (between Jil and raf), I am a little concerned about the people that jumped in on the sweet spot of the Jil vote. After rereading a bit, it seemed to me like it was probably more clear to the wolves that Jil was going down rather than raf. Although raf also got votes the first day, with all of the Jil commotion the first day I could see a wolf assuming that Jil was almost certainly being voted off D2. A wolf would be luckier to get in on the sweet spot of the raf vote because it wasn't as expected. I saw Jil's vote as more of a self-preservation than anything so I wasn't necessarily counting that in this analysis. It might be wrong but those are my thoughts.

Yeah this would be interesting to look at. I don't have time right now or for awhile today to look at the times people voted for Jil, but of the alive people: WZ, ally, LIS, and AM are the only ones still alive who voted Jil D2.

I still hold to my theory that some of the wolves would have jumped on the raf lynch last min. But a lot less so now that we know Jil had no special ability.

 

[deleted806434]

I was kind of eyeing the ones that jumped on raf towards the end (3m, abners, confusing) - I need to reread the section you're referring to again, but I feel like when it was clear either Jil or raf were going down, if I were a wolf I would have opted to jump on raf. Jil seemed more likely to talk herself out of a lynch while raf was kind of floundering as a newbie. Also since STL hadn't spouted any concrete evidence regarding Jil, just his usual psychobabble. Granted if STL had been outed as a seer both would have been screwed anyways, but at that moment, I think Jil was more likely to succeed at saving herself.

I am referring to earlier in the day than you are. I was talking about around the early-middle votes for both of them. But I think you also have a very good point when it got later in the cycle that jumping on raf might have been a better option. Clearly Jilary evaded the vote for longer than raf since she made it all the way to yesterday despite being brought up strongly D1. So technically we could both have solid theories because they are considering different points in the day. I will also have to reread that part to look at specific timing.

 

[Coopah]

I'm still reading more posts.

@mmmdreamerz. She seems to be really quiet in this game; and not making an effort to help us find wolves. Some of her comments seem fluffy to me (and hard-to-believe) given that she is an experienced WW player. As an example:


Maybe I'm wrong about her, but something doesn't feel okay about her. Most of the time she seems to be UTR; and I've been forgetting that she's even playing in this game. So I'd like to hear more from her.

Seeing above makes me think hard about 3m. I realize that we have no way of reasoning why the wolves killed who they killed but she's got a good point. 3m has been super quiet.

Cydia has also got me a little suspicious with this voting history, she missed two votes because of plurality? And jumped on Jil late D3 so no real help.

 

[Cyndia]

Cydia has also got me a little suspicious with this voting history, she missed two votes because of plurality? And jumped on Jil late D3 so no real help.

I think I straight up missed the day 1 vote because I wasn't checking in much then. I did miss yesterdays vote because of plurality, though I said a couple times I was planning to lynch Jil. I was just waiting till closer to the end of the day so that plurality wouldn't take effect, but when I checked in right before 9 the thread was already closed.

 

[Cyndia]

I think I straight up missed the day 1 vote because I wasn't checking in much then. I did miss yesterdays vote because of plurality, though I said a couple times I was planning to lynch Jil. I was just waiting till closer to the end of the day so that plurality wouldn't take effect, but when I checked in right before 9 the thread was already closed.

Whoops, I mean missed day 2.

 

[DVMDream]

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Special announcement!

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[Abnerrs]

I was kind of eyeing the ones that jumped on raf towards the end (3m, abners, confusing) - I need to reread the section you're referring to again, but I feel like when it was clear either Jil or raf were going down, if I were a wolf I would have opted to jump on raf. Jil seemed more likely to talk herself out of a lynch while raf was kind of floundering as a newbie. Also since STL hadn't spouted any concrete evidence regarding Jil, just his usual psychobabble. Granted if STL had been outed as a seer both would have been screwed anyways, but at that moment, I think Jil was more likely to succeed at saving herself.

No. Bull****. I voted for her the day before too. I just hadn't voted YET that day.

 

[Abnerrs]

No. Bull****. I voted for her the day before too. I just hadn't voted YET that day.

And before anyone is like "omg that is like, totally, soooooooooooo defensive". It was said in a deadpan "are you kidding me" tone of voice "laugh"

 

[PippyPony]

Seeing above makes me think hard about 3m. I realize that we have no way of reasoning why the wolves killed who they killed but she's got a good point. 3m has been super quiet.

I wouldn't say 3M has been super quiet, but I would say 3M has been super weird at times. I had actually started to go back & pull all of the posts from her and Nessie that set off alarm bells in my head, but then I replied to something else and lost them. But, even just this whole exchange this morning was strange-sounding to me:

I get your reasoning but is hitting plurality when we are all pretty much agreed on who to vote for really a bad thing...especially with such long day cycles?

So like two groups of wolves is that why you are thinking two kills?

What was it about Jil that made you think she was village?

SAR died so I don't think she'll be replying to you

Also on the nessie front...

Pretty sure if I was a wolf I would have stayed voting for Jil considering she was very obviously going to be lynched. Easier to hide that way. So I don't think my waffling there is inherently wolfy.

This whole thing was very weird. I really did not like that whole exchange where someone (ally maybe?) pointed out that Nessie quickly adjusted her course of action when someone brought up that her lists overlapped with Jil a lot.

Cydia has also got me a little suspicious with this voting history, she missed two votes because of plurality? And jumped on Jil late D3 so no real help.

Cyndia had been looking sketchy to me earlier on, but mostly because of a few posts, not necessarily her votes. I did think she was starting to post more substance. However....

I was kind of eyeing the ones that jumped on raf towards the end (3m, abners, confusing) - I need to reread the section you're referring to again, but I feel like when it was clear either Jil or raf were going down, if I were a wolf I would have opted to jump on raf. Jil seemed more likely to talk herself out of a lynch while raf was kind of floundering as a newbie. Also since STL hadn't spouted any concrete evidence regarding Jil, just his usual psychobabble. Granted if STL had been outed as a seer both would have been screwed anyways, but at that moment, I think Jil was more likely to succeed at saving herself.

Didn't someone else (@Trilt maybe?) post almost the exact same thing in an exchange with @SnowshoeDog143 yesterday or the day before? Like literally almost the exact same post? Strange.

Here's my updated list:

Very suspect:
AM
3M (maybe I just am suspicious of M's?)
Nessie

Medium suspect:
Ally (<-- although if Ally is a wolf, then I don't think Nessie is a wolf, and vice versa).

Less suspect/oscillating between categories:
Snowy
WZ
Cyndia
Coop
KC
Finn

Non-suspect at this time:
Serher
LIS
Confusing
Abnerrs
Trilt
Ski


(did I miss anyone? if I did, then they're not really reading sketchy to me).

 

[KCgophervet]

So apologies for my lack of participation the last couple days/last cycle. I was trying to keep up but essentially just got busy with school and time got away from me. I am planning on rereading Day 1 right now (with our known wolves and villagers in mind) and let you all know what I think. Then hopefully move on to Day 2 and 3 (and 4? what day is it?). Stay tuned.

 

[PippyPony]

Ok, went back to grab these posts.

From @mmmdreamerz:

I didn't like this whole stretch from 3M. It felt weirdly speculative to me, like she was putting out feelers to try to see if someone would bite.

Getting caught up now but won't be able to finish until later...

DVMD seemed pretty much how she has in the other games I've played with her when she was a villager, so that part doesn't really surprise me. What does surprise me is that the wolves chose her I guess? I just feel like a couple other players that I have felt are pretty solidly villager would have taken precedence for the wolfs to kill...idk and it doesn't really feel like a lynch that was supposed to throw us off either? Idk. Maybe they thought she had an ability.

Seems like most are still feeling a Jillary lynch at this point...

In the last game LIS seemed to post a bunch at once like he has in this game, but he's definitely been not around as much...so I am kinda wondering as well, then again I feel like that is too blatantly wolfy of a strategy for LIS...

Anyone be have any thoughts on Ski? I'm having trouble quoting from my phone but I'll go back and try to quote some things later...some things she's said on occasion have peaked my interest a bit...

Then she votes to lynch Jil like 30 seconds later.

From @awesomenessity :

So I didn't look at anyone else's lists when I made that post, I just looked at my small spreadsheet and made some deductions. Actually find it quite interesting I have so many parallels to Jil, definitely puts her in a more village camp to me.

Also my apologies for missing 3 people, I thought I got them all but counting is hard

Gets called out some more by @allyphoe (and maybe others?) then says:

Yes, because I didn't realize we had such similar lists until you pointed it out. I'm likely going to vote for AM today unless something else comes up.

Did not like this. Feels like trying to soft vouch for Jilary. I particularly didn't like the "tone" of the "Actually find it quite interesting" part.

On that note,

Lynch Nessie

Reason: I feel like Nessie's going to give me more information on Ally and some other players, whereas 3M gives me less info overall. AM, while still sketchy, would give me virtually nothing and I believe she's teetering on the line for posting requirement anyways.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

I wouldn't say 3M has been super quiet, but I would say 3M has been super weird at times. I had actually started to go back & pull all of the posts from her and Nessie that set off alarm bells in my head, but then I replied to something else and lost them. But, even just this whole exchange this morning was strange-sounding to me:









Also on the nessie front...



This whole thing was very weird. I really did not like that whole exchange where someone (ally maybe?) pointed out that Nessie quickly adjusted her course of action when someone brought up that her lists overlapped with Jil a lot.



Cyndia had been looking sketchy to me earlier on, but mostly because of a few posts, not necessarily her votes. I did think she was starting to post more substance. However....



Didn't someone else (@Trilt maybe?) post almost the exact same thing in an exchange with @SnowshoeDog143 yesterday or the day before? Like literally almost the exact same post? Strange.

Here's my updated list:

Very suspect:
AM
3M (maybe I just am suspicious of M's?)
Nessie

Medium suspect:
Ally (<-- although if Ally is a wolf, then I don't think Nessie is a wolf, and vice versa).

Less suspect/oscillating between categories:
Snowy
WZ
Cyndia
Coop
KC
Finn

Non-suspect at this time:
Serher
LIS
Confusing
Abnerrs
Trilt
Ski


(did I miss anyone? if I did, then they're not really reading sketchy to me).

You are wayyyyy overthinking me (which is fine lol). I was asking Trilt about the plurality thing because it honestly came off weird to me that her excuse for not voting was that she didn't want to hit plurality. Idk with such long day cycles where we are pretty near the deadline anyway and everyone is pretty much in agreement that a certain person is likely a wolf, that seems like a weird thing to say. Trilt doesn't read wolf to me, but honestly is kind of surprises me that the wolves haven't gone after her. So that whole thing about not wanting to hit plurality just came off weird to me.

SARS vote not for Jil was strange but I kinda forgot she died lol, clearly it meant nothing...

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Ok, went back to grab these posts.

From @mmmdreamerz:

I didn't like this whole stretch from 3M. It felt weirdly speculative to me, like she was putting out feelers to try to see if someone would bite.







Then she votes to lynch Jil like 30 seconds later.

From @awesomenessity :



Gets called out some more by @allyphoe (and maybe others?) then says:



Did not like this. Feels like trying to soft vouch for Jilary. I particularly didn't like the "tone" of the "Actually find it quite interesting" part.

On that note,

Lynch Nessie

Reason: I feel like Nessie's going to give me more information on Ally and some other players, whereas 3M gives me less info overall. AM, while still sketchy, would give me virtually nothing and I believe she's teetering on the line for posting requirement anyways.

The posts about DVMD and LIS were in response to some things other people had said. Ski makes me wonder because I think back to the whole back and forth with cdoc in the beginning...plus she reads a little different to me in this came then others. Just wasn't sure how substantial my "feeling" was.

 

[Cyndia]

Didn't someone else (@Trilt maybe?) post almost the exact same thing in an exchange with @SnowshoeDog143 yesterday or the day before? Like literally almost the exact same post? Strange.

Gonna be perfectly honest, I didn't see whatever post it was that said that. I'm out of town and just using my phone so probably overlooking stuff. I would never repeat another players ideas verbatim lol, I would just say I agreed.

 

[Cyndia]

No. Bull****. I voted for her the day before too. I just hadn't voted YET that day.

Fair enough. I hadn't gone back to look yet, I just listed the last three names I saw on wz's tally sheet.

 

[Abnerrs]

Fair enough. I hadn't gone back to look yet, I just listed the last three names I saw on wz's tally sheet.

Interesting.

 

[awesomenessity]

Lynch Nessie

Reason: I feel like Nessie's going to give me more information on Ally and some other players, whereas 3M gives me less info overall. AM, while still sketchy, would give me virtually nothing and I believe she's teetering on the line for posting requirement anyways.

Just in case this lynch starts gaining momentum, I'd like to make a comment to hopefully help future village. Ally's last few posts have been almost exclusively grilling me, which I find quite wolfy. I am apparently a sketchy-seeming villager (under the radar, exceedingly neutral, all of the things you guys have said in the last little while), so it would be very easy to lead a lynch brigade against me to try and draw attention away from lynching fellow wolves. So when I flip village (which I will) I hope you guys take a hard look at Ally as wolfy.

Yes, apparently I had similar analysis as Jilary, and I decided not to lynch her because of it. I was rused, plain and simple. As I mentioned previously, a smart wolf wouldn't have been so openly waffling over voting for another wolf, because it would look sketchy. They would have stayed with the lynch and rode it out. So either I'm a really dumb wolf, or I'm legitimate village who was uncertain about whether I was lynching a fellow villager. If I hadn't unlynched, you would have been calling me out as a wolf hiding in the bandwagon and having similar views to another wolf. Since I did unlynch, now I'm a wolf for waffling and happening to share the same views as a confirmed wolf. There was literally no way for me to win in this situation 😛

So yeah. I'm village, I apparently play sketchy and happened to have similar thoughts as a wolf. Doesn't make me any less of a villager, though 🙁

 

[allyphoe]

Let's stop talking about DRoP, mmkay?

I did a thing last night where I went through and color coded the final vote tallies but lo and behold the colors don't transfer over from word so I'm going to work on redoing that I suppose.

My spreadsheet has similar color codes, but tally by tally for each lynch cycle.

 

[LetItSnow]

Would still like those reads/posts re:Zen if possible, too. 🙂

Like I said, it was on surfacey stuff, but:

I think the primary reason for the long day cycle is so that people have enough time to get their 5 posts in and not get mod-killed.

Speaking of... Yeah, a lot of people still need to get on here and start talking.

I liked the aggression of getting people talking. The majority of wolves in pre-vet games play a quiet game, except for some of us who are pretty loud either way.

Heads-up that it's far easier for mods to see your lynch votes if you put them on a separate line, like so.

******lynch pippy******
unlynch puppy

I hadn't caught that cdo's been on SDN and hasn't posted here. Since majority rules aren't in effect,

lynch @cdoconn

I'd like to hear that explanation.

Ditto - liked the aggression of pushing cdoconn.

Remember that plurality is NOT in effect this lynch. It will be in next lynches, though. Ok to lynch how you want today, but in future, if you're not feeling certain about a player, consider tagging them to warn them instead of lynching.

I'm going to keep my vote where it is for now because I'm curious what shakes out of the Ski/cdo argument.

Same as above - still pushing a consistent line. In retrospect, if Ski is village, this would have been an easy line for Zensing to take as a wolf since either way it goes is 'acceptable' to the wolves. But at the time, I liked the tone.

Reading quickly before leaving tonight, and unfortunately can't get back on before lynch close 🙁

unlynch cdo, lynch coop

If cdo has a power role, I don't want to lynch her just yet. I do want to hear what it is to get some idea of whether's she's attempting what STL had last game. I'm reading just noob language on raf's part. I'm more bugged about Coopah's post from the start of the day. She defended herself when pressed, but it's something that I'm surprised she didn't login through on her own.

I didn't fully understand what cdo posted after claiming she had a role - is she now saying that she's vanillager? If so, then she's back on my lynch list tomorrow.

I was not at all thrilled with the cdoconn thing rolled out. Since it was a verifiable role, I would have waited a day to test. That was the thing that really kept me on STL's ass for the next few days since I viewed him as really pushing that cdoconn lynch over the edge. Conversely, I liked that Zensing did basically what I would have done. 🙂

I didn't catch it at the time, but interesting comment on raf buried in there. Zensing is more sly than I realized.

Well, that was a bad night for me to leave early. Sorry, everyone. Comments/responses in (somewhat) order posted -


This one.

Seemed like coopah was trying to frame a behavior as sketchy when she should have been able to work out that it was a reasonable action on day 1. Especially given that she posted this on the prior page:


One lynch vote generally doesn't invite discussion from the lynched party. Multiple lynch votes/a small bandwagon will. I thought Coopah knew that.


Was supposed to be logic, not login. That's what I get for typing quickly.

Finally, not that it matters now,

Dy made the 2-shot vigilante a day vigilante last game. There was one day where PBC was killed (I think) about 6hrs before lynch closed when we had all settled on her to lynch. It freaked all of us out, and Dy had to clarify that PBC wasn't mod-killed.

Is anyone else besides me and DVMD here that was alive during that point in the basics game? I know the day vigilante shot stood out in my memory, so I would think that others would have remembered it with cdo's role reveal.

There were a bunch of other quotes Zensing had in between there, but the bottom line was that I liked the post-lynch and post-night analysis. It just read villager to me, especially for a pre-vet game.

Somewhere not too much longer after that is when I finally started posting.

 

[LetItSnow]

Just in case this lynch starts gaining momentum, I'd like to make a comment to hopefully help future village. Ally's last few posts have been almost exclusively grilling me, which I find quite wolfy. I am apparently a sketchy-seeming villager (under the radar, exceedingly neutral, all of the things you guys have said in the last little while), so it would be very easy to lead a lynch brigade against me to try and draw attention away from lynching fellow wolves. So when I flip village (which I will) I hope you guys take a hard look at Ally as wolfy.

Yes, apparently I had similar analysis as Jilary, and I decided not to lynch her because of it. I was rused, plain and simple. As I mentioned previously, a smart wolf wouldn't have been so openly waffling over voting for another wolf, because it would look sketchy. They would have stayed with the lynch and rode it out. So either I'm a really dumb wolf, or I'm legitimate village who was uncertain about whether I was lynching a fellow villager. If I hadn't unlynched, you would have been calling me out as a wolf hiding in the bandwagon and having similar views to another wolf. Since I did unlynch, now I'm a wolf for waffling and happening to share the same views as a confirmed wolf. There was literally no way for me to win in this situation 😛

So yeah. I'm village, I apparently play sketchy and happened to have similar thoughts as a wolf. Doesn't make me any less of a villager, though 🙁

I give this a big thumb's sideways.

I'm more interested in AM and Finnick than Nessie, but this post did zilch to make me feel better about Nessie.

 

[PippyPony]

Just in case this lynch starts gaining momentum, I'd like to make a comment to hopefully help future village. Ally's last few posts have been almost exclusively grilling me, which I find quite wolfy. I am apparently a sketchy-seeming villager (under the radar, exceedingly neutral, all of the things you guys have said in the last little while), so it would be very easy to lead a lynch brigade against me to try and draw attention away from lynching fellow wolves. So when I flip village (which I will) I hope you guys take a hard look at Ally as wolfy.

Yes, apparently I had similar analysis as Jilary, and I decided not to lynch her because of it. I was rused, plain and simple. As I mentioned previously, a smart wolf wouldn't have been so openly waffling over voting for another wolf, because it would look sketchy. They would have stayed with the lynch and rode it out. So either I'm a really dumb wolf, or I'm legitimate village who was uncertain about whether I was lynching a fellow villager. If I hadn't unlynched, you would have been calling me out as a wolf hiding in the bandwagon and having similar views to another wolf. Since I did unlynch, now I'm a wolf for waffling and happening to share the same views as a confirmed wolf. There was literally no way for me to win in this situation

So yeah. I'm village, I apparently play sketchy and happened to have similar thoughts as a wolf. Doesn't make me any less of a villager, though 🙁

Yup, I buy that, which is why I have you guys diametrically opposed in my list.

If it makes you feel better (?), I have a LOT of wolfy tallies for ally earlier on in the game. But, I've had some villager ones for her, too, and the net is leaning heavier towards you as wolf at the moment.

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[LetItSnow]

Nah I know what early game is like, no worries. If you want to add on what made you feel kc was village too (and your current opinion there) that'd also be appreciated.

My take on kcoughli was similar to Zen: Was playing hard, pushing on people, trying to dissect people's play - to me that's villager work.

But the last 3-4 (real) days has suddenly gone radio silent except for a few "hey, sorry, school got busy" kinda posts. You know me - that kinda thing ALWAYS makes me nervous. Might be true (sure is for me sometimes), but it can also be a wolf who is starting to feel nervous or backed into a corner and is pulling a deer in the headlights move.

So early on I was pretty confident kcoughli was village. Now I'm starting to have second thoughts.

 

[LetItSnow]

It is kinda interesting that everyone who has voted for Abs has been wolf killed (if I read those lynches right). I'm not sure it's compelling, but it's ... notable.

Abs' gameplay has stepped up the last 96 hours, though, and I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I think Ally and WZ are both cleared by voting. I didn't look at the actual progression with with that 5/4 vote cdoconn/Jil, that would have been a pretty darn cocky move for either of them to sit on Jil when one move would have swung that to a day 1 wolf lynch.

The D2 voting is hard to interpret. I think the wolves were sitting there knowing that a wolf was going down (Jil or Raf), and which one was more or less out of their control, so I wouldn't read too much into either vote.

Ditto D3.