Bench exam ! part 01

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After long waiting bench extension has been approved
just want to know how many of you took or will take any course praparaton and if yes which course ucla duggan...
or just practicing yourself
any recommendation....????
 
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For 1 point !!! My wife's life is on hold for quite a while longer 🙁

To inder that says "so bottom line is if u have really and seriously practised no body can stop us from passing and please stop blaming others for ur mistakes!!!!" I say all power to you that you passed. But can you say for sure if you take the exam again you will definitely pass .... and my wife definitely fail?

Is my wife blaming others? No .... on the contrary she is blaming herself too much. Did she put herself into a position to pass every single time? No. She is not skillful enough to do exceptionally well in all areas to give herself room for errors. One simple mistake here and there and she is done. Would she have passed if she has her exam on the second day? Very likely yes. She practiced all the "hard stuff" but the full crown only once long time ago coz' it was the easiest (definitely tactical error on her part). She realized most of the errors she made immediate afterwards, including the sequence of doing two of the teeth for whichever reason I do not comprehend. Would she have passed her exam at UOP? Most definite after a full month of practise, and that's why I think the exam is not fair.

Does my wife deserve to be a dentist in California. I have no doubt. She will be a great dentist ... much better than the many dentists she worked for as a dental assistant.
 
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tengu3 said:
For 1 point !!! My wife's life is on hold for quite a while longer 🙁

To inder that says "so bottom line is if u have really and seriously practised no body can stop us from passing and please stop blaming others for ur mistakes!!!!" I say all power to you that you passed. But can you say for sure if you take the exam again you will definitely pass .... and my wife definitely fail?

Is my wife blaming others? No .... on the contrary she is blaming herself too much. Did she put herself into a position to pass every single time? No. She is not skillful enough to do exceptionally well in all areas to give herself room for errors. One simple mistake here and there and she is done. Would she have passed if she has her exam on the second day? Very likely yes. She practiced all the "hard stuff" but the full crown only once long time ago coz' it was the easiest (definitely tactical error on her part). She realized most of the errors she made immediate afterwards, including the sequence of doing two of the teeth for whichever reason I do not comprehend. Would she have passed her exam at UOP? Most definite after a full month of practise, and that's why I think the exam is not fair.

Does my wife deserve to be a dentist in California. I have no doubt. She will be a great dentist ... much better than the many dentists she worked for as a dental assistant.
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hi! tengu3,
do not get mad ,i can understand the situation ur are in right now i have nothing against you or anybody else ,instead i want to give u the right advice which most of the people will not give you , i am not saying that she didnot practise hard and will probably be one of the best dentist in california well one more thing if you are in california she should seriously think about taking dr. thaws classes.
best of luck
👍
 
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hi
i haven't received my result yet. my exam was at uop. is there anybody in the same situation as me?
 
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drrk said:
hi
i haven't received my result yet. my exam was at uop. is there anybody in the same situation as me?
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my exam was on the 1st day at uop. even i am waiting for my results. hopefully we might get tomorrow.
good luck
 
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rav06 said:
my exam was on the 1st day at uop. even i am waiting for my results. hopefully we might get tomorrow.
good luck
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are you guys from california or midwest or east coast
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drrk said:
i am from california.
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you should have got it by now have you moved or change of address where did you get your application card the yellow card you should get it at the same address 😎
 
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Congratulations for all, even who did not pass, we are all brave.
I passed and all I have to say is keep trying and never, but never loose hope.
 
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Chuchuca said:
Congratulations for all, even who did not pass, we are all brave.
I passed and all I have to say is keep trying and never, but never loose hope.
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Congrtulations!!
When did you take your exam?
Thanks!
 
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Hi everyone,

Is there anyone who is planning to give the wreb exam,I have some q's probably if anyone is interested pl mail me.
thank you!
 
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Those who are planning to attend the DBC meeting on Thursday 06/15/2006, can you please ask following question if you are given the chance to speak?


1. What are the DBC recommendations regarding Measurements for RT exam?


Background: DBC has specified measurements for Clinical exam. But DBC has not given any measurements for RTexam. Dr. Duggan has some measurements. Dr. Stevenson has some different measurements. Dr. XYZ has some different measuremens. Foreign Trained Dentists are confused as to what measurements should be followed for RTexam.

DBC should clearly specify measurements for RT exam. By not doing so, DBC is discremineting students appearing for RT exam verses Clinical exam.


Please ask the above question during the meeting. People in Bay area, should plan on attending the meeting. Only YOU can help Yourself. This is your chance.
 
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I took the exam on the second day at UOP

I am planning to take the WREB, any suggestion?
 
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hi everyone,
i passed my bench exam.took on the 2nd day in uop.
planning to take wreb.any suggestions?
 
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hii tengu 3 ,
is your wife planing to fight with an appeal please pm me if you are going to do something regarding this i think she is so close she should ask it during the meeting june 15th of how to go about doing this!
😕
 
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Hi everyone.
congrats to all.
hey wreb is a fare exam. But have right patient selection is the way to success.
It is very easy. It's all in ur hands. selecting right patients, right teeth for endo and good perio patient.
good luck to all
if any doubts. plz shoot ur questions . i will try my best to answer.
I recently took WREB and also passed. 🙂
good luck to all.
 
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Chuchuca said:
I took the exam on the second day at UOP

I am planning to take the WREB, any suggestion?
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hi devneel and chuchuca....when r u guys planning to take the wreb....?
 
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Congraduation on all you.
Give me the impression columbia typodont got a higher passing rate? Am I right?
I am planing to take UCLA course. Dr. stevinson suggests us to use the kilgore. Anyone who practiced on both of them could give me any suggestion? which on is better? By the way, kilgore teeth are really expensive. Thanks.
 
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this is for everyone who passed or didn't pass. i have tried both Duggan and Stevenson and i found out that Mr Duggan( i can't call him Dr) is the worst of human greedness and un-professionalism. the list goes byeond this page. Money transformed these people to beasts where they hit you in the eye and tell you i am taking care of you. don't even try to send an email to ask for any help( if your credit card number is not attached to it ,no one will even will look at it). if you have to go to his course just be careful not to post anything in here against him because he will retaliat. He even obtained my ID from this website and send me a mild letter asking if i have anything to say. i am sure he will read this post and Mr Duggan please have some respect to your PHD degree. having a moral princibles are something totally different than hiding behind layers of deciet. ..OH, His top assistant Ores, Ores thinks that he found the recipe for success through his mentor Duggan. Ores will do anything for money( great follower). i had to pay him 150$ for equilibration that he didn't even bother to close the space between teeth and when i asked him to do so. his response was( THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO AND KILGORE TEETH ARE HARD TO ADJUST THEM :scared: ). at that time, two days before the exam, i didn't feel arguing and he took full advantage of the situation. these people are sending the worst message to a struggling people who are trying to make it in this great land.
Finally, fellow students, if you have no chioce but going to his unhelpful courses try to question him all the time and when he jumb his material prices, tell him straight in the face instead of wyning later on. Don't be afraid if your Language is not good enough because he is the one who takes advantage of it.
god bless and good luck
 
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hii ,
did you not make it for this test did you use kilgore typhos did you fail in amalgam becos the trend has been kilgore typhos have more failures as the examiners were not able to grade accordingly
do not give hope try try try agian till you suceed
you still ahve three more tries
😎
 
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for the next exam it will be kilgore typhos with composite teeth for everyone there is no choice but for this exam people who did columbia passed more 😡
 
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Seeing that all of you are so actively busy posting messages on this forum, no body(from failed RT applicants) seems to have attended DBC meeting which was scheduled at 11AM today 06/15/2006.
 
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hi guys

i have all RT materail for sale . any body interested give me a pm . i have kilgore teeth and composite aslo
cheers
 
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bansu said:
for the next exam it will be kilgore typhos with composite teeth for everyone there is no choice but for this exam people who did columbia passed more 😡
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Thanks. how sure are you for kilgore typodont is only choice in the next exam?
 
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composite teeth each teeth is $8 use sparingly do not practice in regular typho then go back to composite teeth becos it very different 🙂
 
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hi guys. Has anybody attended the meeting?
tengu3 , did u go?
After re-reading all the posts about the bench exam results, it seems that 15 people passed and only 9 didn't, which seems to be a very good percentage. Unless there are many more people who didn't pass and just don't want to talk about it.
8 of the 15 people who passed stated the site of their exam. only 2 of them passed the exam at USC and 6 passed in UOP. There are 7 people who passed and didn't say where the exam was.

I don't know what this information is really usefull for. I just did that cause very few people took the bench exam poll and I wanted to have some information analysis regarding the exam results.

If anybody attended the DBC meeting today, please let us know what happened.
Thanks!
 
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Dentists:

This question is directed to those who retook the last bench exams. How does the old format (direct vision, labs, wax pattern etc.) compare to the new(all preps, mounted typodont)? Which one do you think was harder?

Thanks.

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache."
 
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present one requires more practice direct and indirect vision and all !!! but there is a lot of time to complete the exam there is no shortage of time,last exam there is very less time with all the model work
🙂
 
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I could not go but I have a friend who went. I will meet her tonight and I will write you another message tomorrow. The things that she told me on the phone were that the candidates who went to the meeting today (we have to thanks them) made the next exam to not include all the teeth in the typodont (only 3,4,5,6,8,9,10,19,20,30, like in the last exam) and also to not use composite teeth.

She told me that it was really important to be present at the meeting, otherwise the DBC could (again and again) mess up with us.

OK, doctors, wait for my message tomorrow. Or if somebody else went to the meeting, please post the info.

PS: I have taken TWO courses at UOP (pass the mock boards), one with Dr. De Leon. I took the exam on the first day at UOP and did not pass. :luck:
 
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🙂 hi

Does any one know about the WREB exam.
How to find patients, were to take classes , or any suggestions would be fine.
 
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hi

Satch
Congrats
Where did you take classes and how did you find patients.
i have no clue from where to start .


satch said:
Hi everyone.
congrats to all.
hey wreb is a fare exam. But have right patient selection is the way to success.
It is very easy. It's all in ur hands. selecting right patients, right teeth for endo and good perio patient.
good luck to all
if any doubts. plz shoot ur questions . i will try my best to answer.
I recently took WREB and also passed. 🙂
good luck to all.
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Hi everyone,
I took classes in UCLA.
About patients: it depends on each and every body's situation.
for eg: some of my friends used patient finding services which ranging from
$ 4500 to $ 7500.
some of them screened there family memebers and were lucky to find class2's in them 🙂
some of them who were working as DA , asked there employer and paid the patients.

Its an very easy exam. But try to practice well. And endo be good at it.
Hope this helps. 👍
 
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satch said:
Hi everyone,
I took classes in UCLA.
About patients: it depends on each and every body's situation.
for eg: some of my friends used patient finding services which ranging from
$ 4500 to $ 7500.
some of them screened there family memebers and were lucky to find class2's in them 🙂
some of them who were working as DA , asked there employer and paid the patients.

Its an very easy exam. But try to practice well. And endo be good at it.
Hope this helps. 👍
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hi,
thanks for the info, when u say it ranges from 4500 to 7500 $ what did u mean ?? i mean whys there so much difference ?? & also is it a set of 3 cases for this amount ???
 
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hi there! hope u have the time to answer my questions. ireally need ur help. you took ucla class for the wreb right? i just want to ask what are the procedures that u need to do. i enrolled in restorative technique course of ucla and while i was there , there were people who were taking the wreb course too , i saw them holding a kilgore typodont? is it part of the exam . what are the procedures to take this exam>

is it?

class 2 amalgam
class 2 composite
the indirect thing? i dont quite understand?

i have to choose 2 procedures bet the three.pls explain it to me... please....

and for the endo is it gonna be a natural teeth? or typodont that will be mounted on a block.

and for the perio are we going to do probing and can we use ultrasonic scaler before the hand instrument?

thanks in advance for ur time... god bless u always?

and also are u a foreign grad practicing in california? if yes did they already give the license to you(the dental board of ca)?

thanks
 
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satch said:
Hi everyone.
congrats to all.
hey wreb is a fare exam. But have right patient selection is the way to success.
It is very easy. It's all in ur hands. selecting right patients, right teeth for endo and good perio patient.
good luck to all
if any doubts. plz shoot ur questions . i will try my best to answer.
I recently took WREB and also passed. 🙂
good luck to all.
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hi there ! i have some questions for you about the wreb and i hope u will have time to answer those questions..... thanks
 
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dont mind the spellings.. i am typing as fast as i can so i cant help the spellings not a comp engineer 😉

hi guys,
i know you all have been waiting to know what happened at the meeting: well firstly although it started at 11 they didnt get to rt until 2 and it got over at 4 and then by the time we got home it was late.. so sorry to kep u'll waiting. there were quite a few of us there and well there is lots to tell. so here i go:
firstly the new board members are excellent kudos to them.. they are open minded they listen to you and answer you and are considerste.. they were very nice friendly and positive people,one of them himself is a dentist who gave his rt exam many years ago,so he understands our situation. and they were open to a lot of suggestions so going for these meetings really helps.. so if u can u must go for the meetings in future coz these people actually listen to you. well now how much of what they promised they will stick to i dont know.. but atleast they heard us and it looked positive so i have a good feeling about them,that they will definetly make things more clear in the future.
secondly dr stevenson(from ucla ) was there and rt students should thnak him coz he made some real good points and the board members understood them.
ok the best news is NO COMPOSITE TEETH. YES U READ CORRECT.. NO SPENDING$8 PER TOOTH. board members understood that they are not good on our pocket and dr stevenson pointed out to them the bigger problemthat since the enamel and dentin are glued,sometimes the enamel just fracture's
away or in b/w the 2 layers their may be a big void...so at the end of a beautiful prep u may fail coz of some manufacturing defect... the board members realized that and so now we don't have composite teeth.
next question will be which typodont can we use? ans to that is.. u could use any.. go to the clinical licensure booklet pg 13 it has list of 5 typodont's.. u are free to use any of them.. so that's columbia or kilgore.. and you could use the same one's for clinical.
next ques which teeth? ans is the same 10 teeth so just those same 10 teeth(3,4,5,6,8,9,10,19,20,30) just reconfirm them from the dbc website.
also we asked them if its true that more people with kilgore have failed? and ans to that was that they didnt see much difference in the type of typodont lots of people with kilgore have failed and lots with columbia have failed too. the basic thing is use what you are comfortable with and what u have practised on so far.
now also for the pass % usc had a 36% and uop had a 47% so atleast for the april exam more from uop passed. now please if you do get scheduled for rt in usc don't go with a negative attitude.. i am just giving numbers of the board.. to let u all know... but people in usc do pass... 36% is pretty good as compared to the low rate in the nov 2005 exam.. that was the lowest rate ever in a rt exam!!!
ok now i will continue below in next post...
 
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contd from above:
ok now regd the format of the exam: there always going to be 5 things to do so here are the options:
firstly we have 2 cast preps as 50% each.
next for amalgam we could have it as a 100% prep or it could be a prep for 60% and then make another prep and fill for 40% in case if we have to prep and fill amalgam then the composite will only be a prep and the prep will be 100%. hope u are getting it.... so in case if we get just amalgum 100% prep then composite will be 50 prep and 50 fill.
so we will have1.cast prep
2.cast prep
3.amalgum prep
4. composite prep
5. restore either amalgum(in which case you would have prepared an additional class2 which you will have to fill and you will only be graded for the fill and it will be 40%
OR
5. restore a composite(in which case u would have to prep an additional comp prep )(just like the recent rt exams)
so in all it will be 5 procedure. i cannot explain it more than this.. i hope u have got it.
 
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