Bench exam ! part 01

[yasi]

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After long waiting bench extension has been approved
just want to know how many of you took or will take any course praparaton and if yes which course ucla duggan...
or just practicing yourself
any recommendation....????

 

[ivorinedust]

Take a look at this:

[http://www.ultradent.com/products/products.php?act=product&fid=3&pid=32 ]

It's called "Interguard". Drawback is you have to buy 50 or so pieces and you only need a few since they are reusable (autoclavable too). Maybe if people will pool together and buy bag and share it eh? What do you think?

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache"

From Garrison dental the company that sells the composi tight sectional matrix system, plastic wedges are available in different sizes and they are color coded. These work quite well for tooth seperation and if used gently they dont damage the gingiva

 

[bansu]

Take a look at this:

[http://www.ultradent.com/products/products.php?act=product&fid=3&pid=32 ]

It's called "Interguard". Drawback is you have to buy 50 or so pieces and you only need a few since they are reusable (autoclavable too). Maybe if people will pool together and buy bag and share it eh? What do you think?

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache"

hi i will be intrested please count me in let me know how much is the cost
Pm me if you planning a bag
🙂

 

[bansu]

hi, i took the bench last april and i will never advise you guys to use tooth separator because of one impotant reason... ivorine teeth are so fragile and you don't want to fracture it during the exam. might as well use some plastic wedge THE WAND. it really worked for me without worrying of separating the teeth permanently. hope this help!

there are no composite teeth in the exam that is what i understood as per the dbc meeting and kilgore teeth are like columbia teeth they are preety strong we can use a seperator practice it before you go for exams 🙂

 

[drganda]

in my case the tooth separator really helped me a lot! u just kinda practice using it though......... i havent experienced any difficulties in it. of course when u use it u dont want to separate it too much bec it will break the tooth of course. there's a limitation on separating a tooth. so, practice it. i tried wedges or anything like that but nothing works the same like the tooth separator. but i think its hard to find nowadays since the company closed already.

 

[Halaby]

hey ... i know you guys were trying to get some stats on the pass/fail rate.
i know its late but i had some problems with the board sending my scores to the wrong place , so here it is.
I passed!!
thank god for that.. istill dont know the individual grades ... will post it when i get them. i only took the Duggan intensive 13 day course and the last day was 3 days before the exam, and believe me or not the first day at Duggans' was the first day i ever held a typodont in my hand. So dont give up guys with practice , perseverance and a whole LOT OF LUCK anything is possible.
I took the exam at USC April 9th and i was the fist one to get out of the exam ( 12:30 ) ... i honestly though i would FAIL!!

i want to thank everyone in this great thread for the effort eveyone is putting into this.... pure inspiration!!

and by the way i used a separator for the class II that they sell at USC bookstore... its a small thin metal bar that you squeeze between the teeth .... works pretty nice... but beware the gingival clearance!!

 

[drganda]

no ...thats not true the tooth separator does not damage the gingiva.....and ivorine teeth are not fragile either. the tooth breaks when u separate it too .........much ....... 5mm is just enough for tooth separation and if its more than that ..it will definitely break the tooth.and one more thing, u use the separator only after u break the proximal contact like if u are making full gold, use it after breaking the contact and u are ready to make the chamfer margins already. never use it ...never ever use it to separate tooth while u r still breaking proximal contacts of cast preps.....i think that tooth separators are heaven's sent!

 

[ivorinedust]

.... i tried wedges or anything like that but nothing works the same like the tooth separator. but i think its hard to find nowadays since the company closed already.

No, you can still order Ivory separators from Pearson's for around $30. I think the better separator is the Elliot because of its simpler design and is also easier to operate.

Ivorinedust
"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[papatsu]

good point!!! but for me, i broke 2 lateral incisors(#10) during mock boards. i tried it with my articulated,srews tightened typodont. maybe for the posterior it will not be as bad. but i strongly suggest to try it and practise with it first. then ,if it works, use it. do and use what ever you feel is comfortable and does the job but never try anything new during the exam. even the burs, you should use whatever you are using during practise or try to cut with the new ones for a couple of time just to get the grip. believe me , i almost ruined my cast prep because of sharp, new burs. goodluck guys.....

 

[futurdentist]

So here is what I know about the tooth separator:
There r 2 ivory tooth separators at pearson ,one for about $30 and the other for about $50 (German) .I was advised by Dr. Stevenson (UCLA) not to get the cheaper one (I don't know why?) !!

However because I couldn't find the more expensive one at the time I ordered ,I was also advised by Dr. Stevenson to get the Elliot one which is about $30.
Off course I don't know what you guys would prefer , but I thought I would share my experience with you anyways. And whatever you do always practice with your equipment before the exam ! What works best for you might not work well for another person.

Hope this helps!

 

[ivorinedust]

.... never try anything new during the exam. even the burs, you should use whatever you are using during practise or try to cut with the new ones for a couple of time just to get the grip. believe me , i almost ruined my cast prep because of sharp, new burs. goodluck guys.....

Hmm...but I cannot cut clean grooves for my 3/4s and 7/8s if my tapered carbide bur is not new...I can use a 169L with a little mileage to smooth my occlusal reduction, but my grooves aren't as crisp if I use that.

BTW, you can clean your diamond burs by running them a few times over a pencil eraser. I bought a really large one from the 99 cents store. Worked great!

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[sonia vashist]

anybody here from bombay? did u guys hear about the bomb blasts in bombay? 7 blasts in the local trains....hope all is fine...

 

[ivorinedust]

Sad to hear about the Bombay bombings. Hope all is well for everyone.

Getting back to thread, I have a question that I am sure many of you can answer:

How do you measure/verify occlusal clearance on the lingual cusps for a posterior crown prep? For the buccal cusps it would be okay to pass a 10 instrument or the RGS #3 to verify 1-1.2 mm clearance. I could do that on the lingual cusps if the typodont is unmounted, like "approaching from the throat".
But if you have the assembly put together--phantom head, cheeks and rod, it would be impossible. So what do you do?

I tried using utility wax by rolling a little bit and placing it on the lingual cusps of my prep, and then asking "Ahnold"--that's my manikin's name--to bite down by pushing up the lower member of the typodont hard against the opposing arch. I open it and measure the thickness of the wax with my RGS.
Very crude and unreliable, if you ask me.

So I pose this question for the experts--that means you, SDNers. What would be a reliable method to measure occlusal clearance on lingual cusps on a crown prep?

Thanks in advance. All ideas would be helpful to me.

P.S. My prayers go to the victims of the Bombay blasts.

Ivorinedust.

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[smm970]

I am willing to sell my Zenith amalgamator and Litex Curing Light.
Curing Light is like brand new. I just used it at the exam for a few minutes. That's all. I am giving a small composite set with it for free.
I also am giving a half box of amalgam capsules with the amalgamator for free.
Email me if you are interested in. Thanks.
[email protected]

 

[futurdentist]

ISo I pose this question for the experts--that means you, SDNers. What would be a reliable method to measure occlusal clearance on lingual cusps on a crown prep?

Use blue mousse.

 

[papatsu]

So I pose this question for the experts--that means you, SDNers. What would be a reliable method to measure occlusal clearance on lingual cusps on a crown prep?

eyeballing would be helpful and faster too. remember that examiners are not using any tools to measure clearances.they are just relying on the overall appearance of your preps. if your preps look correct, then chances are they are correct. just make sure that lingual cusps are cleared when you view the tooth from the straight buccal angle.you should have the lingual cusps level or a little lower from the buccal cusps then that means you have clearance. examiners will only be spending about a minute or two(max) to check it and thats it.so if there is no significant and obvious error, then your ok. be assertive. make sure you know how to troubleshoot. VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!

 

[sonia vashist]

Use blue mousse.

what is that and how do u use it? sorry about my ignorance but never heard of it before...

 

[Halaby]

oh... you guys mean that kind of separaters!!!

ok....
i mean something else completely.... for adjacent tooth protection in classII preps
in the usc bookstore they sell this small metal \_________/ like this looking strip ( but with rolled edges) that you just wedge between the teeth and it is GREAT its the sm econcept as matrix buut with the matrix if you will hit it you will hit the tooth with the same intensity ... not this though this offers some good deal of protection. also if you remeber that this is a safety thing not an invitation to be careless you should be ok.
its like 90-150 cents for one... dont remeber , but get it and try it!!
send me feedback

 

[ivorinedust]

oh... you guys mean that kind of separaters!!!

ok....
i mean something else completely.... for adjacent tooth protection in classII preps
in the usc bookstore they sell this small metal \_________/ like this looking strip ( but with rolled edges) that you just wedge between the teeth and it is GREAT its the sm econcept as matrix buut with the matrix if you will hit it you will hit the tooth with the same intensity ... not this though this offers some good deal of protection. also if you remeber that this is a safety thing not an invitation to be careless you should be ok.
its like 90-150 cents for one... dont remeber , but get it and try it!!
send me feedback

That's the Interguard that I was talking about. I posted the URL link for the product a few days ago in this thread...90-150 cents? Like a dollar fifty per? It's like $100 for fifty pieces, if I am not mistaken. BTW, there are two sizes for the gizmo. Small and large.

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[ivorinedust]

Use blue mousse.

It's like a mousse silicone material, right? I wonder how long the thing sets. It might eat up my lab time if I use it everytime I need to check on the clearance. Should be expensive too. 😕 Can you post the proprietary name of the product, futuredentist? I'd like to look it up. Thanks.

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[chiopea]

I wanted to tell you guys that Im using the "prep check of 1.5 mm"(green) from www.commonsensedental.com to check the lingual clearance in the maniquin.
It will mark the high spots were you still need to reduce. It can also help you to determine the high spots in the bucal cusps so you won't over reduce or end up with a flat occlusal overall in the FGC AND MOD ONLAYS. I still like to double check with the RGS for the buccal clearance to be in the safe side.
you may wanna check it out!
Chio 🙂

 

[sonia vashist]

I wanted to tell you guys that Im using the "prep check of 1.5 mm"(green) from www.commonsensedental.com to check the lingual clearance in the maniquin.
It will mark the high spots were you still need to reduce. It can also help you to determine the high spots in the bucal cusps so you won't over reduce or end up with a flat occlusal overall in the FGC AND MOD ONLAYS. I still like to double check with the RGS for the buccal clearance to be in the safe side.
you may wanna check it out!
Chio 🙂

i saw the prepcheck.. it looks really helpful, the website says each is for 89$, so iwanted to know if the packet contains just one for 89$ or are there multiple? also if we keep using the same one won't it wear down and then the measurement won't be accurate..?

 

[futurdentist]

It's like a mousse silicone material, right? I wonder how long the thing sets. It might eat up my lab time if I use it everytime I need to check on the clearance. Should be expensive too. 😕 Can you post the proprietary name of the product, futuredentist? I'd like to look it up. Thanks.

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

It takes about 30 sec. to set and it's called blu-mousse super fast. Check it out on www.pearsondental.com . I think the box is about $30-$35 and contains 2 cartridges. Off course you need the impression gun to be able to use it.

 

[inder]

i saw the prepcheck.. it looks really helpful, the website says each is for 89$, so iwanted to know if the packet contains just one for 89$ or are there multiple? also if we keep using the same one won't it wear down and then the measurement won't be accurate..?

hello,
i was just cheking the website there are about 50 in one packet so 89$ is for the whole packet but any one size, hope this helps

best of luck

 

[futurdentist]

i saw the prepcheck.. it looks really helpful, the website says each is for 89$, so iwanted to know if the packet contains just one for 89$ or are there multiple? also if we keep using the same one won't it wear down and then the measurement won't be accurate..?

I just checked out the prep check on that website. Has anybody actually tried it in the exam?
It says the pack contains 50 and that you have to chose which size u want, 1mm, 1.5mm or 2mm.So the box would only contain 1 size of the prep check.

 

[ivorinedust]

I wanted to tell you guys that Im using the "prep check of 1.5 mm"(green) from www.commonsensedental.com to check the lingual clearance in the maniquin.
It will mark the high spots were you still need to reduce. It can also help you to determine the high spots in the bucal cusps so you won't over reduce or end up with a flat occlusal overall in the FGC AND MOD ONLAYS. I still like to double check with the RGS for the buccal clearance to be in the safe side.
you may wanna check it out!
Chio 🙂

Schillingburg and Jacobi mentioned a "Flexible Clearance Guide" in the Crown Preps book. I checked out Pearson's and they have it for about $30. The thing is, there are no instructions on how to use it anywhere in the 'net. So you have to buy before you try. There are no instructions in the Schillinburg book too.

"Prep Check" gave me an idea--maybe I could buy one of those cheap silicone rubber pot holders and sand it down to 1 and 1.5 mm. Then I would cut out strips to about the mesiodistal length of my prep. After that I would take a ball point pen and smear the surface with ink. Then I would use that as my "prep check". The thing about silicone is that nothing sticks to it--even ball point ink--so the ink will surely transfer to my prep if I needed more reduction. This could work! I am going out now to buy the pot holder. Then contact the patent office!

Will post later with the results.

Ivorinedust

"Aoolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[chiopea]

Good luck with all that Ivorine dust... Im sure it will work
I tried the blue mousse first but I don't think it will be a good idea to use it during the exam while we are under pressure and we have to check the clearance many times...then I found out about the prep check and decided to try it.
I purchased the box of 1.5mm only. Most of the preps have 1.5 mm clearance for the functional cusps. It helps also to check the lingual clearance of the PFM. The bad part is that my total was $85 BOR THE BOX OF 50( including shipping)....and now Im very stingy with them! 😎
I didn't try it during the exam yet but I'll sure do it next time.
😉

 

[Chuchuca]

Hi,

I used blue mousse for my clearance check.
What I did was, first thing took impressions with alginate (Yes, alginate!!! It was easy and fast) of the opposing archs ( by the way, I brought my water and individually packet alginate for a clean job). Once it was set, quick set, I fill out the mold with blue mousse and on top of the tray with the blue mousse, I placed I little stick and covered with the blue mousse, just because I did not want it to break. And that's it. It took me probably 7 min, but saved my life during the checking.
7 min, seems a lot, but it is nothing, comparing with the time you can spend trying to eyeball (which DO NOT work) or using something that you are not familiar with.
Good luck

 

[futurdentist]

Hi,

I used blue mousse for my clearance check.
What I did was, first thing took impressions with alginate (Yes, alginate!!! It was easy and fast) of the opposing archs ( by the way, I brought my water and individually packet alginate for a clean job). Once it was set, quick set, I fill out the mold with blue mousse and on top of the tray with the blue mousse, I placed I little stick and covered with the blue mousse, just because I did not want it to break. And that's it. It took me probably 7 min, but saved my life during the checking.
7 min, seems a lot, but it is nothing, comparing with the time you can spend trying to eyeball (which DO NOT work) or using something that you are not familiar with.
Good luck

Hi,
I'm sorry, i didn't quite understand what u did after taking the impression.
Can u explain that again, please?

Thanks!

 

[sonia vashist]

if u check out pearson dental,they have something similar to the prepchecks.. its called flexible clearance tabs,they too are 1,1.5,and 2 mm.. and u can get a pkt of assorted one's and its cheaper than the prep-checks..in pearson there is also fleximeter strips,i havn't used any of them so i dont know which is better,but the one in pearson is cheaper to try out... only thing is that the prepchecks mark the underreduced points i don't know if the flexible clearnace tabs do the same... b'coz its not mentioned in their description,but i guess they probably do...

 

[sonia vashist]

http://www.pearsondental.com/catalo...dscr=Clearance+Tabs+&+Guides&dpt=0&mysort=#pd
http://www.pearsondental.com/catalo...dscr=Clearance+Tabs+&+Guides&dpt=0&mysort=#pd
here is the link...
also ivorinedust,it was a good question to ask.. the occlusal clearnce was a big hasstle for most of us.. and now we have so many ideas.. also thanks to all the sdner's for ur replies... ivorinedust keep asking such ques.. it really helps...

 

[ivorinedust]

...."Prep Check" gave me an idea--maybe I could buy one of those cheap silicone rubber pot holders and sand it down to 1 and 1.5 mm. Then I would cut out strips to about the mesiodistal length of my prep. After that I would take a ball point pen and smear the surface with ink. Then I would use that as my "prep check". The thing about silicone is that nothing sticks to it--even ball point ink--so the ink will surely transfer to my prep if I needed more reduction. This could work! I am going out now to buy the pot holder. Then contact the patent office!

Will post later with the results.

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

Eureka!!!! It works! The silicone potholder I got from Dollar Tree and is 1.2 mm thick between the bulges(the bulges are about 20mm apart)--so I can cut a long and wide strip. I smear about 10 mm of the surface with ballpoint ink, place it on top of my occlusal reduction, ink side facing my prep, and let "Ahnold" bite down lightly then I tug on it. Voila! The ink transferred to the high spots on my lingual! Problem now is, if I grind down on the high spot, which is usually the lingual cusp tip, my lingual occlusal reduction gets a bit flat--and I lose the pretty slopes I tried so hard to cut ( I was doing # 4--full metal crown). Maybe that is how my typodont bites in centric. Oh well...

Another "test guage" you could probably use is the the Livestrong wrist band (2.00 mm). The cheaper knock off wrist bands at WalMart are 1.5 mm, so maybe you can use them too.

I think the best one to use is the 1.2 mm silicone pot holder, for three reasons:

-it is very flexible
-1.2mm is just about right: you can't reduce too much(>1.5mm) nor too little(<1.0mm)
-silicone holds ink very poorly--ink will transfer to the high points of the prep.

If anyone of you would try this, please post your results. And remember Ivorinedust thought of it

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[Halaby]

i really dont!!!

i mean if you do the buccal red. properly then you could get an estimate getting acces from the buccal ...... either mesial embrasure or central groove in the middle of reduction.
plus... you will need a measuring device (caliper) if you are going to check the thickness of the impression.... my honest opinion is : save your concentration , energy and time into perfecting the prep as much as you can... and once you feel that all the aspects of it are as best as you could do it... work on fine tuning it for good looks at the end.

remember that almost EVERYONE doubts that they actually measure the clearance... they take it by appearance, so work on that instead of playing in a 0.2 +/- of a mm range.

Just got my score card... got an even 75 in all 3 thirds!!

keep on grinding!!!

 

[ivorinedust]

My reply in italics--Ivorinedust

Quoting Halaby:

i really dont!!!
i mean if you do the buccal red. properly then you could get an estimate getting acces from the buccal ...... either mesial embrasure or central groove in the middle of reduction.

Granted. But suppose you were assigned an upper 3/4 posterior crown. You are supposed to preserve the buccal cusp tips or do minimal reduction for esthetics. How can you see what's going on behind the tooth from the buccal?

plus... you will need a measuring device (caliper) if you are going to check the thickness of the impression.... my honest opinion is : save your concentration , energy and time into perfecting the prep as much as you can... and once you feel that all the aspects of it are as best as you could do it... work on fine tuning it for good looks at the end.

Exactly the point for all this hype-- Do the prep as perfectly as you can. There could be as many failures because of under reduction as with over reduction.


remember that almost EVERYONE doubts that they actually measure the clearance... they take it by appearance, so work on that instead of playing in a 0.2 +/- of a mm range.

You are right halaby, almost everyone of the candidates doubts the measure of the clearances, but the examiners have seen hundreds, if not thousands of preps before. They should know what looks right and what doesn't. As someone who is still practicing to pass this exam I need tools to tell me if I've done my preps right or not. Maybe after a few hundred practice preps, I won't have to use any measuring devices, but for now, I think it is the practical thing to do--ivorine teeth don't come cheap. Tolerances of 0.2mm are impractical if not insane, but 0.5mm is another story. Ask someone who failed amalgam.

Just got my score card... got an even 75 in all 3 thirds!!

keep on grinding!!!

Congratulations and thanks for the encouragement!

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[shelly78]

Has anybody from April USC received their exam critique ??

 

[bansu]

i MET DAWN YESTERDAY SHE SAID THAT THE CRITIQUE HAS BEEN MAILED OUT ON FRIDAY AS WELL AS ON MONDAY LATE IN THE EVENING SO, WE SHPULD GET IT SOON,,BTW DID ANY ONE RECIEVE THEIR TYPHOS BACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE PASSED SHOULD ASK FORTHEIR TYPHOS BACK
🙂

 

[bansu]

hi everyone
I got my critique yesterday i got one major in pulpal floor depth so they gave me 2 in rest of the section i have 3 do you think i have a ground for an appeal with just one major you fail as afar as i remember you need to get two major to get 2 please post your messages all i need is 0.5 maRKto pass
any past sdners who have passed on appeal please guide me
i have made the model of my class 2 prep in that model my pulpal floor is not shallow may be it might be 1.4mm but still it is not a ground to give 2

 

[sonia vashist]

did both the examiners give you 2 ? or did one give 2 and the other 3 for the same section? they generally give you the lower grade if the 2 examiners give differnt grades.. and if that is the case you have a good chance if u appeal,then they will show the class2 prep to another examiner who may think that it will work...

 

[bansu]

did both the examiners give you 2 ? or did one give 2 and the other 3 for the same section? they generally give you the lower grade if the 2 examiners give differnt grades.. and if that is the case you have a good chance if u appeal,then they will show the class2 prep to another examiner who may think that it will work...

the first examiner he did not mark anything ,he just marked pulpal floor shallow soooo 2 and surrounding structure soft tissue dammage he marked 2 too so overall for 1st examiner is 2 for the second examiner he checked all the section he gave me three in all except for pulpal floor he gave me two so according to second examiner he only gave me one major, unlike the first examiner who gave me two major
i have the model i checked and re checked i dont find less than 1.5 except may be in one buccal spot it is 1.4
according to dr stevenson notes the range for pulpal depth is 1.3 to 1.7 so really i dont think my pulpal floor is less than that

 

[bansu]

any suggestion is welcome please guide me for the appeal process

 

[papatsu]

friends, i would suggest you use depth grooves to really make a precise measurements of the clearances. that, i believe, is the best and most accurate thing to do to have a good clearance. use a straight,end cutting bur and make indentations on the occlusal surfaces and by sweeping action cut the surfaces between the grooves and you will see that you made a perfect occlusal clearance.just make sure that when you pass the grooves you don't put the same pressure as with the surface your cutting otherwise you will be making your grooves deeper and your occlusal over reduced.this will require practise but if perfected it is really accurate. hopt this help

 

[smm970]

A brand new curing light is for sale. Reasonable price.
Email me if interested.
[email protected]

 

[Halaby]

dude.... i wish the board members could see your reply!!!!

seriously ... according to them its an exam of skill and planning while maintaining certain principles and guidlines .... you really have though about this stuff , havent you!?!?

you really do deserve passing ... the way you posted that reply shows that you put effort in your planning.....

so whats your story ? re examination?? amalgam?

i think thats what you meant by your last reply.... what got me through the exam ... seriously ..... is the \________/ device that you put between the teeth to avoid hitting adjacent..... making you concentrate on getting the exits right and boxing the internal form while your mind is at ease
give it a try .... got it from USC bookstore the day before the exam. met this old psycho dentist with a pony tail and denim shirt who used to teach there in the 80's but got sacked for teaching his students "cheating" tips for the clinicals and also he kept on blabbering something about only working inlays for his patints , ONLY , making the "mix" for the inlays himself and how each different individual needs a diff galvanic polarity or cosmic crap or some crazy stuff like that... ( no wonder why he got sacked) .... but hey .... he's the one who told me about these metal things... God bless him and his madness!!!

gooluck ivorine ..... i could tell you dont need it

 

[sonia vashist]

any suggestion is welcome please guide me for the appeal process

don't think soo much,just call dawn and ask the procedure for appeal and appeal... u can use the 1 reason for appeal,and state that you don't agree with the documentation... if i was you,i would appeal... if they don't give passing grade they will give u free exam.. in which case u save 325 $ 🙂

 

[ivorinedust]

Quoting Halaby:

...<snip>

so whats your story ? re examination?? amalgam?

I'd like to cite bansu's posting for amalgam... failed by just a shave because the examiner thought her pulpal depth was too shallow. I wish her/him luck on the appeal.


i think thats what you meant by your last reply.... what got me through the exam ... seriously ..... is the \________/ device that you put between the teeth to avoid hitting adjacent.....

I actually have a few pieces of that, Halaby. It is called Interguard. Great for Class IIs! Students from NYU use them.

...making you concentrate on getting the exits right and boxing the internal form while your mind is at ease
give it a try .... got it from USC bookstore the day before the exam. met this old psycho dentist with a pony tail and denim shirt who used to teach there in the 80's but got sacked for teaching his students "cheating" tips for the clinicals and also he kept on blabbering something about only working inlays for his patints , ONLY , making the "mix" for the inlays himself and how each different individual needs a diff galvanic polarity or cosmic crap or some crazy stuff like that... ( no wonder why he got sacked) .... but hey .... he's the one who told me about these metal things... God bless him and his madness!!!

Sounds like someone who would use potholders to measure occlusal clearance Hey it actually works. Galvanic current? I read that it can actually happen if you have different metal restorations(ex. amalgam and gold) in your mouth. Saliva will act as the conductor. He could be making sense there.

gooluck ivorine ..... i could tell you dont need it[/QUOTE]

Thanks for all the encouragement from you and all the rest of the SDNers. Hey guys, aren't you cutting teeth yet? Exam is in November. What are you waiting for? 😉

Ivorinedust

"Apolonia, relieve my toothache!"

 

[Halaby]

i know this isnt really the topic of the thread but.....

this guy was talking about being ionically correct with the patient himself.. not other restorations!! for example he would take a saliva sample and maybe some exfoliated skin or something (i suppose somethong crazy within the same context would apply) then measure the ionic potential and other **** like that and mix the metals for the inlay himself ... listen man, this guy was a totall wacko!! but once again godbless him!!!

and these "interguard" things .... i really would recommend them to anyone still in this thing.

im not gonna take the clinical anytime soon .... probably gonna take the WREB in some other state then come back to the sunshine at a later point.
do you guys know if there is any procedure that i have to do after the bench... i called and asked but they said no.. for some reason i dont really believe that... they said i could take the Calboard or WREB in 10 years if i want and still be elligible.

 

[bansu]

hi,
any one knows how to write the appeal letter is there any special words or ways to process the appeal!!! my preps were graded by three examiners
examiner A failed examiner B passed examiner C failed me in shallow pulpal floor section. I have my model with me. does that really help
any advice is welcome
😳

 

[anusha]

Hi! can u just tell the procedures after the step 2 examinations.....do we need to take the bench exam before or after the 2 years course? can u tell me where international dentist can apply for?? 😕
good luck all
anusha

 

[futurdentist]

don't think soo much,just call dawn and ask the procedure for appeal and appeal... u can use the 1 reason for appeal,and state that you don't agree with the documentation... if i was you,i would appeal... if they don't give passing grade they will give u free exam.. in which case u save 325 $ 🙂

HI,
Do you know the extension number for Dawn?

Thanks!!

 

[sonia vashist]

HI,
Do you know the extension number for Dawn?

Thanks!!

no,but i have her email id... she is pretty good in responding to the email..in a day or 2... let me look it up and i'll pm it to u...

 

[Ani]

It's 2306 .

QUOTE=futurdentist]HI,
Do you know the extension number for Dawn?

Thanks!![/QUOTE]