yep, and socially they cant handle pressure either, thats why they cant work in a retail environment .
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yep, and socially they cant handle pressure either, thats why they cant work in a retail environment .
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Or the idea of working weekends. Heaven forbid!!!!!!!
Don't let those people make you think that your career is not on par with a physician or a dentist. You may believe that a pharmacist's practical training is worthless when compared to their didactic training (unlike a physician perhaps), but it's really just drugs vs surgery vs hooking up IVs vs discovering why someone is depressed vs guiding someone in losing weight, vs etc.
Or the idea of working weekends. Heaven forbid!!!!!!!
the way we did it, every other weekend for us is a 3 day weekend off....swing and a miss again
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This thread is going nowhere and quick
Thats what I was gonna say.
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This thread is going nowhere and quick
Such inspirational words! It must have taken so much thought!
Why don't you freakin' add something decent to the thread instead of being a whining spectator?
Right. The entire staff only works every third weekend around these parts.
Why are you being so confrontational?
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Nothing wrong here. I'm not the one who's banging my head against a brick wall.Why are you being so confrontational?
lol thats really not much better...
Why are you being so confrontational?
speaking of confrontational, clinical pharmacists who think they are hot shots can get that way
i remember the one time i was on rotation with this clincal dude (not my preceptor), and it was us 2 students and the clinical dude and a random md came to us and goes: "hey guys any GI motility agent i can try other than erthromycin or reglan?" the clinical guy whips out his pda and i just said 'u could try bethanechol' ....md said thanks and left....the clinical dude just chewed me out saying the ? was directed at him and he got all mad at me...of course all 3 of us knew he wasnt happy a student stole his thunder
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A patient wanted to know why she was advised to take aspirin 30 minutes before taking niacin. My boss didn't know, so he turned to me and said "girllein, do you know why she might need to take aspirin with niacin?" I said "flushing". He responded "Aspirin? For flushing? What kind of flushing?". I told him "warmth". So then he told the lady that sometimes students are more up to date since they're in school, which felt pretty cool.
Stop trying to be a clinical pharmacist. You are just a wannabe.
umm thats just a normal pharmacy question, just like when i call the md to change a Abx thats not covered, i better have options for him/her or they will hang up on me...nice try thou
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But you said he wanted ciprofloxacin. How dare you question what an MD (ohh, I just orgasm'd typing those two letters in the same sequence) wanted for his/her patient. There is no way a Pharmacist could know what antibiotic would work, especially if a Doctor (man that made me pee a little in my pants typing that one) is recommending a different agent.
I apologize, but I have to cut this post short, feeling the urge to masturbate to Debakey's picture for a third time today.
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No. You are again playing doctor. You don't have the patient's culture and you have not examined the patient so you shouldn't make any recommendations.
If you want to change a patient's blood pressure medication, you should at least know or measure his blood pressure first. You are making clinical pharmacists look bad. Stop it, wannabe!
um, i already said that there is need for ID specialists since 70% of PCP have no idea on abx...maybe reading the thread would help, nice try thou
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Heh him...
DeBakey. Physician Assistant my ass.
And before anyone slams on me for mentioning Dr. Debakey and masturbation in the same sentence, I will just let it be known that he is one of the most impressive humans ever to walk the Earth in my eyes. And not because he was a Physician, but because of the type of person he was. A few highlights:
1. Concept of MASH units
2. Concept of VA Medical centers
3. Performed the first carotid endarterectomy
4. Pioneered coronary bypass surgery
5. Never used elevators (office on the 9th floor in Methodist Hospital)
6. Concept of the LVAD
7. First to author a text book on cardiovascular medicine in Russian
8. First to treat a black cardiovascular patient in Houston (abdominal aneurysm)
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Why can't ID Doctors handle it genius, that is your argument for everything else. Or ID Nurses????
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*****ic argument mind you.....
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The fallacy in psurocks' argument is that while he's fine with making whatever recommendations the PBMs tell him to make to the physician, he's not fine when a pharmacist takes the time to examine the patient first (e.g. measure his blood pressure) and accuses the pharmacist of being a wannabe physician.
If a pharmacist takes a patient's blood pressure to make a diagnosis then yes that's playing physician but when a pharmacist takes a patient's blood pressure before making a rational recommendation, then that's just being a good pharmacist. Big difference.
If a pharmacist takes a patient's blood pressure to make a diagnosis then yes that's playing physician but when a pharmacist takes a patient's blood pressure before making a rational recommendation, then that's just being a good pharmacist. Big difference.
From your posts, I think you have inferiority complex compared to clinical pharmacists. If you are so happy with what you do, what is the point for you to attack people who want to pursue more clinical positions and have more autonomy? It's not like we are bugging you.
For some reason, it seems that maybe you are not that happy with what you do. You know, there are tons of options for pharmacists out there.
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Exactly. I would love for him to tell my boss that he is over stepping his boundary when the surgeon calls him at 8 pm while we are at dinner to go see a patient at the hospital because he is at a conference and thinks the icu team has screwed up all of his meds...which he left and went straight to the hospital...mind you he did not call the PA...
I have a friend that is an CC pharmacist who turned in her resignation to move and the medical director of the ICU has come up with more money from the division of medicine to get her to stay...but i bet she is just a hot shot right?
this is why our profession is in trouble...too many people graduate and think that they need no further education or training...they settle for mediocrity and just want a good pay check
ummmm, routine CAP cases do not get consulted to ID...normally (for healthy pt with no copd or anything), md sees em in office, gives em ABx, then see if pt gets better, if not, then admit and do IV ABx
im not the one complaining nurses can prescribe and we cant, read above posts
thats my point, i dont believe pharmacists have the training to examine pts, mds get the rigorous and thorough training to do that and come up with a plan....i just laugh when i see clinical pharmacists lookin at chest xrays, its like wat are you doing
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Psurocks, you are just a joke. Two and the half years ago, you started this thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=280886
Now, you are claiming to be a pharmacist. You signed on SDN to ask this question for a friend right? You have some issues.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=280886
Now, you are claiming to be a pharmacist. You signed on SDN to ask this question for a friend right? You have some issues.
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RPh: "Hi, Dr. Jones wrote a script for Levaquin, but his insurance covers Tequin, can I switch it?"
Secretary: "Yeah, sure, that's fine."
Everyone knows the best job is medical secretary. You get to practice medicine with no training. What a deal!
Secretary: "Yeah, sure, that's fine."
Everyone knows the best job is medical secretary. You get to practice medicine with no training. What a deal!
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@ BMBiology...You rock.
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Wow what the hell happened to this thread?
Ps I hope no one's switching to Tequin, that was d/c'd 2-3 years ago? Everyone knows that if Levaquin isn't covered you go with Cipro, come on now!
Ps I hope no one's switching to Tequin, that was d/c'd 2-3 years ago? Everyone knows that if Levaquin isn't covered you go with Cipro, come on now!
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Where's that old rambling photographer when you need him? Probably at the old folk's home getting a sponge bath...
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My "what the hell happened to this thread?" was not directed at you, and I was joking about the Tequin/Cipro crap. Chillax! We're all getting way too serious on the internet in here.
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I just shat myself... WTF was up with all of that. There was just something sketch about him.
If that guy somehow becomes a doctor.~above~
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Psurock has always been a toolbag anyway. The jig is up, he will just change screen names now that he has been caught.
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These should have been the clues needed to save the day, but I guess I won't be nominated as Ms. Hot Shot Detective any time soon, because BMBiology wins the award.
It seems pretty unlikely that you can be 24ish and have a past history of working at a pharmacy. Most likely, a 24 year old pharmacist is still trying to anchor themselves in at their first job after graduation, because it takes about 6 years to graduate after starting college at 18 years old.
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Why would anyone want to lie on SDN? I don't understand why someone would want to waste their time like that.
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It's probably just a bunch of make believe fantasy.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZuXEnQzajQ[/youtube]"Diamond Girl" is good, too.
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I've followed some of your posts and I believe you are WAY over 25. Our age group do not refer to newer pharmDs as the way you characterize them. The highlighted above suggest that you can't accept that the role of pharmacists is changing. I also saw no replies to an earlier post about actual pharmacists on the field with really great careers. The post was titled: Are these MD wannabes?
No physicians could treat without medication therapy. They diagnose based on anatomical dysfunctions and prescribe. According to you, the argument can also be made about nurses wearing a stethoscope. You see where this is going? It is a slippery slope and you dug yourself a hole. The fact is, nurses must have a stethoscope. And the pharmDs you are talking about wearing them, you made a good point to mention that they in fact earned a residency. Zip it and go represent your career or stay on the sideline.
If it wasn't for this MAN, where would pharmacy be?
We have passion about pharmacy and until reading your depressing post that your colleagues somehow want to be MDwannabes just because they aspire to be clinicians. C'mon, be a Jere Goyan for once!
You've been dissected!
UPDATE: LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE BEAT ME TO IT. WHAT A TROLL!
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It's people like PSUrocks that will keep us locked in the basement and not able to use our abilities and education to the fullest.
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How come? Why does what someone else doesn't want to do, have to affect your own ambitions?
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somebody needs to just slap you...
dissected...
seriously?
go troll somewhere else please.I live in Richmond and am friends with Dental, Medical, and Pharmacy students and none of them wanted to be in the other field originally. Everybody at MCV hangs out with each other (provided you are social) and nobody acts (those I have met thus far and that is quite a few) like they are better than the other.
I'll be going to Pharmacy school at VCU (MCV) starting in the Fall so no I don't have any school experience yet but I have met enough of the people to make a generalized statement.
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As someone going to VCU/MCV I'd agree with that statement as well. Congrats on the admit!
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somebody needs to just slap you...
dissected...
seriously?
I live in Richmond and am friends with Dental, Medical, and Pharmacy students and none of them wanted to be in the other field originally. Everybody at MCV hangs out with each other (provided you are social) and nobody acts (those I have met thus far and that is quite a few) like they are better than the other.
I'll be going to Pharmacy school at VCU (MCV) starting in the Fall so no I don't have any school experience yet but I have met enough of the people to make a generalized statement.
LOL Oh my Lord. This is Christmas for Heaven's sake. Exactly what did I do wrong? Where does VCU fits into what I wrote?
I was referring to Psurocks who was discovered to have been trolling as an actual pharmacist. If the dissected part bothered you, it is removed.
Geez! Give me a break... Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that...
Oh... Merry Christmas. Let us drop it alright.
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Why all the animosity in the threads today? It must be because everyone is stressed about finals or something..
I would like to nominate you for Ms. Hot Shot Detective no.2These should have been the clues needed to save the day, but I guess I won't be nominated as Ms. Hot Shot Detective any time soon, because BMBiology wins the award.
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hahahah, yeah i read that and this immediately came to mind:
"You got...d-d-d-d-dissected!!"
Anyway, to keep this on topic, I think one could choose worse things to go into aside from pharmacy (automobile design anyone? check out today's LA Times). I think the perception that's floating around in this thread that pharmd's are "md wannabes who want to prescribe" stems from the attack that physicians are under from seemingly everyone (insurance companies, patients, lawyers, mid-levels, government). Despite the perks, it seems as though the sole purpose of a medical student/physician's existence is to fight (be it the MCAT, USMLE, choice residency spots, or the entities mentioned above).
Even though we've come a long way from the hegemonic MD centered healthcare system from a time not-so-long ago, healthcare is still in changing. You're going to get a 20 different points of view in a room of 15 people on who should and shouldn't be doing what, depending on how they were brought up/what they've seen or experienced first hand.
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That's very sweet. Thank you. (I respectfully left wisecracks out of this post.I would like to nominate you for Ms. Hot Shot Detective no.2
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