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Hello all, I have read many comments from others on these forums(particularly @Goro) talking about how TX residents are looked down upon in other states due to the high likelihood that they will attend a Texas medical school, and essentially be a waste of an interview slot unless they are a stellar applicant. My issue is that I am a reinventor (2.9uGPA, 3.85 postbacc GPA, and 3.9gGPA in an SMP (weak/no linkage, unfortunately). Based on the matriculant heatmap provided by TMDSAS, that gives me only a 6% chance of acceptance in Texas based on cumulative GPA and MCAT(511). Based on MSAR data, it would appear that most Texas schools are not that interested in reinventors. I applied to a LOT of non-Texas schools, particularly those that reward reinvention, in order to increase my chances as much as possible. My question is, is there anything I can do to help mitigate this OOS bias, or will other schools still assume I will attend medical school in Texas, even though my chances of getting an in-state acceptance are slim?
 

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Hello all, I have read many comments from others on these forums(particularly @Goro) talking about how TX residents are looked down upon in other states due to the high likelihood that they will attend a Texas medical school, and essentially be a waste of an interview slot unless they are a stellar applicant. My issue is that I am a reinventor (2.9uGPA, 3.85 postbacc GPA, and 3.9gGPA in an SMP (weak/no linkage, unfortunately). Based on the matriculant heatmap provided by TMDSAS, that gives me only a 6% chance of acceptance in Texas based on cumulative GPA and MCAT(511). Based on MSAR data, it would appear that most Texas schools are not that interested in reinventors. I applied to a LOT of non-Texas schools, particularly those that reward reinvention, in order to increase my chances as much as possible. My question is, is there anything I can do to help mitigate this OOS bias, or will other schools still assume I will attend medical school in Texas, even though my chances of getting an in-state acceptance are slim?
Apply to DO schools. Gyngyn has pointed out that people who leave TX are scholarship worthy (ie, superstars).
 
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Apply to DO schools. Gyngyn has pointed out that people who leave TX are scholarship worthy (ie, superstars).
I know a couple of fellow Texans who ended up going to oos mid tier schools at full price because they didn’t get an IS offer. I think oos schools are starting to pick up on the competitiveness of Texas
 
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Apply to DO schools. Gyngyn has pointed out that people who leave TX are scholarship worthy (ie, superstars).
I should have mentioned, I already have interviewed at several out of state DO programs and am even lucky enough to have one acceptance! Total silence from the 60+ MD apps that I sent out first day though(I pre wrote all my secondaries and sent them in within about 24 hours too). I didn't know how bad the Texas bias was until read about it on a few different posts.
 

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I should have mentioned, I already have interviewed at several out of state DO programs and am even lucky enough to have one acceptance! Total silence from the 60+ MD apps that I sent out first day though. I didn't know how bad the Texas bias was until read about it on a few different posts.
60+ MDs? How many DOs did you apply? how were you able to finish all the secondaries?
 
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60+ MDs? How many DOs did you apply? how were you able to finish all the secondaries?
About 15 DO programs, and I spent the past year pre-writing my essays. I work in a lab where I am mostly able to make my own schedule, so I could pretty much clear my calendar for the day if the prompt changed for one of the secondaries.
 
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I should have mentioned, I already have interviewed at several out of state DO programs and am even lucky enough to have one acceptance! Total silence from the 60+ MD apps that I sent out first day though(I pre wrote all my secondaries and sent them in within about 24 hours too). I didn't know how bad the Texas bias was until read about it on a few different posts.
60 MD apps? Donations, alas.
 
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I should have mentioned, I already have interviewed at several out of state DO programs and am even lucky enough to have one acceptance! Total silence from the 60+ MD apps that I sent out first day though(I pre wrote all my secondaries and sent them in within about 24 hours too). I didn't know how bad the Texas bias was until read about it on a few different posts.
So, congratulations!!! You are going to be a doctor!!! Unfortunately, the bias against TX is very real, is not totally unjustified, given how difficult TX is to break into OOS and how attractive it is for IS who are lucky enough to score an A (you basically face the same bias everywhere else that all OOS candidates face applying into TX), so how would you expect to be able to effectively mitigate it, short of taking a gap year and using it to establish residency somewhere else? It's the ugly flip side of having the opportunity to attend very decent schools at far below average cost.
 
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Hello all, I have read many comments from others on these forums(particularly @Goro) talking about how TX residents are looked down upon in other states due to the high likelihood that they will attend a Texas medical school, and essentially be a waste of an interview slot unless they are a stellar applicant. My issue is that I am a reinventor (2.9uGPA, 3.85 postbacc GPA, and 3.9gGPA in an SMP (weak/no linkage, unfortunately). Based on the matriculant heatmap provided by TMDSAS, that gives me only a 6% chance of acceptance in Texas based on cumulative GPA and MCAT(511). Based on MSAR data, it would appear that most Texas schools are not that interested in reinventors. I applied to a LOT of non-Texas schools, particularly those that reward reinvention, in order to increase my chances as much as possible. My question is, is there anything I can do to help mitigate this OOS bias, or will other schools still assume I will attend medical school in Texas, even though my chances of getting an in-state acceptance are slim?
hm there are 4 texans in my class with lower stats
 
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Piggybacking off the comment above, I am a TX resident attending an OOS mid-tier, and there are 3 other Texans in my class alone (and even more were interviewed). I have no idea about their stats, but I certainly was not a "superstar" applicant. I definitely don't consider my school as "mission-oriented," just one that was/is willing to consider TX applicants. You just need to do your homework ahead of time and see what schools have previously accepted Texas residents before according to the MSAR map.
 
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You will do well, if you had the caliber to grind through 75 secondaries, you will probably do we in medicine.
Piggybacking off the comment above, I am a TX resident attending an OOS mid-tier, and there are 3 other Texans in my class alone (and even more were interviewed). I have no idea about their stats, but I certainly was not a "superstar" applicant. I definitely don't consider my school as "mission-oriented," just one that was/is willing to consider TX applicants. You just need to do your homework ahead of time and see what schools have previously accepted Texas residents before according to the MSAR map.


What is the best way of getting this information from the MSAR, which schools have accepted Texas residents ? is there an MSAR map by state, or just press on each school and evaluate the map ? The map in the school acceptances doesn't indicate the number of students accepted by state, is there another place where we can get that information ?
 

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What is the best way of getting this information from the MSAR, which schools have accepted Texas residents ? is there an MSAR map by state, or just press on each school and evaluate the map ? The map in the school acceptances doesn't indicate the number of students accepted by state, is there another place where we can get that information ?
No I was referring to that map towards the bottom of each school's page on MSAR. Not sure about where/how to figure out the actual number of Texans, though, since MSAR doesn't show that (and that's not really what I was looking for when I was applying-- I just wanted to know if that school had a recent history of TX matriculants). I think I do remember a few schools having info about the newest matriculating class on their websites that sometimes showed which states the incoming class was from, but I can't remember if I ever saw the amount listed there, either.
 
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For Texans attending an OOS school, how many of you attended a non-Texas undergrad?
 
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For Texans attending an OOS school, how many of you attended a non-Texas undergrad?
Not only this ^^^^^, but UG in the state you ended up attending med school in (i.e., establishing a connection to the state)?
 
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Not only this ^^^^^, but UG in the state you ended up attending med school in (i.e., establishing a connection to the state)!
3 of the 4 from my class attended public university in texas and one was an OOS but not the same state I'm in now!
 
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For Texans attending an OOS school, how many of you attended a non-Texas undergrad?
Not only this ^^^^^, but UG in the state you ended up attending med school in (i.e., establishing a connection to the state)?
I attended an OOS undergrad, but not in the same state as my med school. One of the other Texans in my class attended UG in Texas, and I don’t remember exactly where the third went, but it wasn’t in the same state as our med school, either. None of us have ties or connections to the state. Also, just to add, there were two other TX residents on my interview day that didn’t end up matriculating, but they both went to Texas UGs.
 
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