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Yup. That's great. Leave the cuts for the poor.

Problem is, we won't cut spending enough to get ourselves even close to budget neutral, let alone pay down the debt. Tax cuts are nice, but as you said, spending funds on tax cuts for the rich who don't need is illogical.
You know 40% of the USA budget spending each year is Medicare and defense spending.

Try cutting those two. That solves most of the speed issues. And you will be a dead man trying to cut those programs. Too many hands in the cookie jar with Medicare and defense programs. Donors to both republicans and democrats
 
Ahhhhh,

I remember this vividly. When all the polls were saying the race was tightening and KH had the advantage/momentum, I told everyone on here just look at the betting markets b/c they know what is really happening. I was told by most that its all gambling, whales fixing the numbers, no truth or connection with the electorate. So much ignorance on how betting works.

Instead of debating, I just waited until the election was over to have them eat some crow. Call me ignorant when I am right just makes you the laughing stock in the corner people laugh at while you stand there clueless.

In the am, Polymarket had DJT at about 55% and I was alittle worried. When the polls started to close he went back to 60% before any votes were counted. I knew where the election was going.

Around 8pm central, it kept around 60-65% and I knew it probably was over. Walked downstairs, got a glass of whiskey and started my celebratory drink

When 9pm central came, I went downstairs and told my wife it was over. The betting market has spoken. She looked at me like I was crazy. We turned the TV on to CNN and the experts all said its early and too close to call. No one knows what will happen. I told her it was OVER, put a fork in it.

10PM came and everyone was saying KH had an uphill to climb. My wife looked at me and said I was right. Of course I was right. 9pm had DJT at 70+% and most polls were closed. The writing was on the wall.


I vividly remember around 8pm DJT had a 2-3% lead in Virgina and MSM said it was too close to call. I didn't know Va was in play and not even on my radar. I went to Polymarket and they had KH at around 95%. I knew what was going to happen and KH had Va locked up. She won by 5%.

The Whales know. They always know before the public. If you see a line move, you know what is happening especially when bet on something where there are real insider information.
 
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You know 40% of the USA budget spending each year is Medicare and defense spending.

Try cutting those two. That solves most of the speed issues. And you will be a dead man trying to cut those programs. Too many hands in the cookie jar with Medicare and defense programs. Donors to both republicans and democrats


Maybe Elon can drop Medicare rates to $10-15/unit in the name of government efficiency while bilking the government of billions with Tesla, Starlink and SpaceX.
 
The democratic party has turned into the party of the elite. The more I hear MSNBC/CNN, it is clear they are the elite who tells voters how to vote because they know better. Just Crazy how things have changed.

The top 1% and Doctorate level are 65+% democrat. MSNBC/CNN continue to voice how they don't understand what happened and it has to be due to the electorate being just ignorant; either ignorant of facts or too lazy to research.

The working middle/lower class has slowly started to see which party really is for the working class which has shifted towards R. Dems just want to keep sending aid and hooking them on the cash drug.

Obama telling black men they have to vote for KH.
KH telling the working class that they have done a great job with inflation because it is now 2-4%. Well guess what, the working class saw a 10% inflation and another 2-4% is still 13-15% over the past 2 yrs and when people are living check to check they don't care about the numbers. More talking down to the working class.
Dems telling people that they have immigration but they see the border packed with people and major US cities opening hotels for migrants
Dems telling people they are the party of women but they keep pushing Men to destroy women sports.
Dems telling people they are the party of free speech but want to regulate social media platforms. Free only if we agree with you. You better call that Trans guy him/he/we/eh/oh or whatever it is. Most americans don't want to be told how to call someone. He or she. That is it.
Dems telling people they are the party of fairness and DJT would persecute his rivals. Name me who DJT has put in Jail or sent congress after? A good amount of DJT inner circle has been persecuted


It is sad many on the left on here do not see this and continue to parrot what the left continues to parrot.
"I am so dishearted that this country is sexist and racists"
"How did we lose the latino vote"
"How did our message not reach the working class"
"How are black young men moving towards R"

It is staring you in the face. You are the party of the elite; Listen to me b/c I am right and if you don't agree let me tell you why you are wrong. This is the echo chamber the left on here is at. Keep at it because nothing will change and you will continue to march towards the Far far left.

Man you are insufferable with these “hot takes” that are just regurgitated MSM lines. If I wanted to read a diatribe on how the Dems are “the party of the elites,” I would go read another dull NYT op-Ed that was copy pasted from 2016. Boring. Do you have any original thoughts or ideas at all? Why are you using Marxist language?

What do you call all the billionaires that funded Trump’s campaign? The commoners? The proletariat? You’re a rich physician, are you one of the masses now?

Boring.
 
Maybe Elon can drop Medicare rates to $10-15/unit
Don't you think Elon would believe that physicians make too much money.

Do we deserve to make 500-600k/yr while having 10 wks off?
 
The democratic party has turned into the party of the elite. The more I hear MSNBC/CNN, it is clear they are the elite who tells voters how to vote because they know better. Just Crazy how things have changed.

The top 1% and Doctorate level are 65+% democrat. MSNBC/CNN continue to voice how they don't understand what happened and it has to be due to the electorate being just ignorant; either ignorant of facts or too lazy to research.

The working middle/lower class has slowly started to see which party really is for the working class which has shifted towards R. Dems just want to keep sending aid and hooking them on the cash drug.

Obama telling black men they have to vote for KH.
KH telling the working class that they have done a great job with inflation because it is now 2-4%. Well guess what, the working class saw a 10% inflation and another 2-4% is still 13-15% over the past 2 yrs and when people are living check to check they don't care about the numbers. More talking down to the working class.
Dems telling people that they have immigration but they see the border packed with people and major US cities opening hotels for migrants
Dems telling people they are the party of women but they keep pushing Men to destroy women sports.
Dems telling people they are the party of free speech but want to regulate social media platforms. Free only if we agree with you. You better call that Trans guy him/he/we/eh/oh or whatever it is. Most americans don't want to be told how to call someone. He or she. That is it.
Dems telling people they are the party of fairness and DJT would persecute his rivals. Name me who DJT has put in Jail or sent congress after? A good amount of DJT inner circle has been persecuted


It is sad many on the left on here do not see this and continue to parrot what the left continues to parrot.
"I am so dishearted that this country is sexist and racists"
"How did we lose the latino vote"
"How did our message not reach the working class"
"How are black young men moving towards R"

It is staring you in the face. You are the party of the elite; Listen to me b/c I am right and if you don't agree let me tell you why you are wrong. This is the echo chamber the left on here is at. Keep at it because nothing will change and you will continue to march towards the Far far left.
Haha.

You guys win your first popular vote on 20 years and you get all pumped up. It's cute.

Hard for DJT to put his opponents in jail when they don't commit crimes isn't it. DJT and his cronies commit then all the time, they just count on him to pardon them.

Yup. Inflation sucked. But anyone with even a basic knowledge of economics, supply chain, etc knows that it has nothing to do with presidential policy. Do I expect the avg voter to know that? No. And that's why he won.

Nobody cares about trans sports, just like nobody cares about trans and which bathrooms they use.

Healthcare affects everyone woman under the age of 50. There are 50 trans athletes in the entire NCAA...

Take a breath and sip your orange kool aid
 
Maybe Elon can drop Medicare rates to $10-15/unit
We should cut defense spending 20% along with healthcare spending. It will immediately lead to 10% unemployment

That’s why no one in congress or the White House dares touch them.
 
Haha.

You guys win your first popular vote on 20 years and you get all pumped up. It's cute.

Hard for DJT to put his opponents in jail when they don't commit crimes isn't it. DJT and his cronies commit then all the time, they just count on him to pardon them.

Yup. Inflation sucked. But anyone with even a basic knowledge of economics, supply chain, etc knows that it has nothing to do with presidential policy. Do I expect the avg voter to know that? No. And that's why he won.

Nobody cares about trans sports, just like nobody cares about trans and which bathrooms they use.

Healthcare affects everyone woman under the age of 50. There are 50 trans athletes in the entire NCAA...

Take a breath and sip your orange kool aid
He also won because of immigration, which is out of control.
 
Don't you think Elon would believe that physicians make too much money.

Do we deserve to make 500-600k/yr while having 10 wks off?


I’m sure he thinks we make too much money. He will try to squeeze every ounce of work out of us for the lowest compensation possible. He’s a union buster and does that at his own companies. Like Trump, he’s a business man. That’s their job.
 
I’m sure he thinks we make too much money. He will try to squeeze every ounce of work out of us for the lowest compensation possible. He’s a union buster and does that in his own companies. Like Trump, he’s a business man. That’s their job.
Hoping for Trump to lower interest rate so I can accelerate my retirement.
 
We should cut defense spending 20% along with healthcare spending. It will immediately lead to 10% unemployment

That’s why no one in congress or the White House dares touch them.


Healthcare is the most important industry in many medium and small communities in middle America. Many of the best jobs in town are often healthcare related. Steep cuts in healthcare spending would indeed decimate the communities.

Defense is more concentrated in large coastal cities which are more diversified and likely more resilient.
 
The unspoken thing I haven’t seen mentioned was the democrats embrace of the neoconservative garbage thrown out of the Republican Party. That was an enormous mistake. GWB was enormously unpopular by the time he left office. Liz Cheney is the daughter of one of the biggest pieces of shlt and probable war criminal of this century. Trying to bring her into the fold was a mistake from the start. Her assessment of Trump’s behavior was spot on, but she still represents the old guard that had been vehemently rejected time and again. The problem with the democrats is they needed to embrace more Bernie and less Cheney. Campaigning with Liz Cheney might have reassured a few boomers who have never voted for a Democrat, but it probably made a lot of progressives and people skeptical of war sit at home. You don’t “get out the vote” with someone like Cheney stumping for you. I would have rather seen AOC (watch the MAGA herd go wild) on stage with Harris than Cheney.
 
The unspoken thing I haven’t seen mentioned was the democrats embrace of the neoconservative garbage thrown out of the Republican Party. That was an enormous mistake. GWB was enormously unpopular by the time he left office. Liz Cheney is the daughter of one of the biggest pieces of shlt and probable war criminal of this century. Trying to bring her into the fold was a mistake from the start. Her assessment of Trump’s behavior was spot on, but she still represents the old guard that had been vehemently rejected time and again. The problem with the democrats is they needed to embrace more Bernie and less Cheney. Campaigning with Liz Cheney might have reassured a few boomers who have never voted for a Democrat, but it probably made a lot of progressives and people skeptical of war sit at home. You don’t “get out the vote” with someone like Cheney stumping for you. I would have rather seen AOC (watch the MAGA herd go wild) on stage with Harris than Cheney.


As a leftist I agree. Trump is unprincipled but authentic. Dems are unprincipled and inauthentic.
 
Trump got fewer votes this time than 2020. Last I checked, he said as at 72 million, vs 74 million in 2020.

Harris just didn't get the 80mill that Biden got.

Harris didn't end up inspiring her voters to turn out
The deceased voting block never really materialized like they expected.
 
Land does not vote, people do.
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Ahhhhh,

I remember this vividly. When all the polls were saying the race was tightening and KH had the advantage/momentum, I told everyone on here just look at the betting markets b/c they know what is really happening. I was told by most that its all gambling, whales fixing the numbers, no truth or connection with the electorate. So much ignorance on how betting works.

Instead of debating, I just waited until the election was over to have them eat some crow. Call me ignorant when I am right just makes you the laughing stock in the corner who thinks they are right.

In the am, Polymarket had DJT at about 55% and I was alittle worried. When the polls started to close he went back to 60% before any votes were counted. I knew where the election was going.

Around 8pm central, it kept around 60-65% and I knew it probably was over. Walked downstairs, got a glass of whiskey and started my celebratory drink

When 9pm central came, I went downstairs and told my wife it was over. The betting market has spoken. She looked at me like I was crazy. We turned the TV on to CNN and the experts all said its early and too close to call. No one knows what will happen. I told her it was OVER, put a fork in it.

10PM came and everyone was saying KH had an uphill to climb. My wife looked at me and said I was right. Of course I was right. 9pm had DJT at 70+% and most polls were closed. The writing was on the wall.


I vividly remember around 8pm DJT had a 2-3% lead in Virgina and MSM said it was too close to call. I didn't know Va was in play and not even on my radar. I went to Polymarket and they had KH at around 95%. I knew what was going to happen and KH had Va locked up. She won by 5%.

The Whales know. They always know before the public. If you see a line move, you know what is happening especially when bet on something where there are real insider information.
Oh, I watched the smug responses happen in real time. I commented in agreement with you. Vegas always knows. Funny to go back and reread the responses from those who knew so much and were calling you an idiot. As usual, no one has volunteered to eat their crow on that issue. So smug and so wrong all at the same time.
 
Oh, I watched the smug responses happen in real time. I commented in agreement with you. Vegas always knows. Funny to go back and reread the responses from those who knew so much and were calling you an idiot. As usual, no one has volunteered to eat their crow on that issue. So smug and so wrong all at the same time.


I thought about going into surgery before I wised up 😉
 
He also won because of immigration, which is out of control.
It's controlled now.

He helped create the problem and then campaigned on it. Biden didn't do enough to squash the issue sooner and gave Trump ammo. So yes, voters fell for it and voted based upon it.

But remember, illegal immigration is a net benefit to society
 
It's controlled now.

He helped create the problem and then campaigned on it. Biden didn't do enough to squash the issue sooner and gave Trump ammo. So yes, voters fell for it and voted based upon it.

But remember, illegal immigration is a net benefit to society

No it isn't. That's a myth.


Having masses of unskilled low education immigrants will never be a fiscal benefit.

All it takes is one medical incident and the cost associated with that immigrant is through the roof. They can work 50 years making minimum wage and it won't come close to breaking even.

Besides, the Biden administration only did something because the problem became too big to ignore and it was an election year.

I have no doubt if Harris was elected, she would have reverted to the same open borders policy.
 
No it isn't. That's a myth.


Having masses of unskilled low education immigrants will never be a fiscal benefit.

All it takes is one medical incident and the cost associated with that immigrant is through the roof. They can work 50 years making minimum wage and it won't come close to breaking even.

Besides, the Biden administration only did something because the problem became too big to ignore and it was an election year.

I have no doubt if Harris was elected, she would have reverted to the same open borders policy.
That source is a very right wing anti immigration group.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an American anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham alongside eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). It is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA.


Here are some of the CBO’s most striking predictions for the next decade:

  • The U.S. labor force will grow by an extra 5.2 million workers, mostly because of increased immigration. They will boost the country’s Gross Domestic Product by a total of 2%.
  • Immigrant workers will add an extra $7 trillion to the U.S. economy within the next decade and an extra $1 trillion in federal tax revenue.
  • New immigrants will prevent the U.S. population from shrinking. They will be the source of all U.S. population growth by 2042.
That group is expected to generate $1.175 trillion in increased federal revenue in the 2024-2034 period and $270 billion in mandatory outlays and net federal spending for a net decrease of $897 billion in the federal deficit


While there are always likely errors in any massive budget estimates. I would surely trust a non partisan report over the testimony given by known biased individual
 
As a leftist I agree. Trump is unprincipled but authentic. Dems are unprincipled and inauthentic.

Very much agree with this. It’s also why I like hearing the Bernie take on what happened. He’s wildly popular in VT and won (again) running as an independent.

Dems have hurt themselves in the way they campaign and their unrelatability to working class people. No one cares about trans or gender issues. But it’s easy to corral people to be against that - there are YTers making a living off of it (I.e. Matt Walsh ‘what is a woman?’). I take that back - I care so much as in they are responsible for their actions and they should be treated like everyone else in their lives and in their jobs. Meaning they are equal to every other person out there trying to make a living. They aren’t entitled to jack squat.

I’m interested to see how the second Trump presidency goes. He clearly has a mandate from the American people. I certainly plan to hold him accountable. I don’t remember the last president with the power he’ll have when he’s inaugurated.
 
Very much agree with this. It’s also why I like hearing the Bernie take on what happened. He’s wildly popular in VT and won (again) running as an independent.

Dems have hurt themselves in the way they campaign and their unrelatability to working class people. No one cares about trans or gender issues. But it’s easy to corral people to be against that - there are YTers making a living off of it (I.e. Matt Walsh ‘what is a woman?’). I take that back - I care so much as in they are responsible for their actions and they should be treated like everyone else in their lives and in their jobs. Meaning they are equal to every other person out there trying to make a living. They aren’t entitled to jack squat.

I’m interested to see how the second Trump presidency goes. He clearly has a mandate from the American people. I certainly plan to hold him accountable. I don’t remember the last president with the power he’ll have when he’s inaugurated.

Obama in 2008. Republicans obstructed as best they could and he got crushed in midterms.
 
Have the BLM and Antifa riots started yet? Just wondering if I can unlock the doors and take down the blackout curtains.

I was assured there would be riots.

So KH has like 13 million fewer votes than Biden 4 years ago. Can’t help but wonder what MAGA would be doing right now if Trump had 13 million fewer votes compared to 4 years ago.
 
The unspoken thing I haven’t seen mentioned was the democrats embrace of the neoconservative garbage thrown out of the Republican Party. That was an enormous mistake. GWB was enormously unpopular by the time he left office. Liz Cheney is the daughter of one of the biggest pieces of shlt and probable war criminal of this century. Trying to bring her into the fold was a mistake from the start. Her assessment of Trump’s behavior was spot on, but she still represents the old guard that had been vehemently rejected time and again. The problem with the democrats is they needed to embrace more Bernie and less Cheney. Campaigning with Liz Cheney might have reassured a few boomers who have never voted for a Democrat, but it probably made a lot of progressives and people skeptical of war sit at home. You don’t “get out the vote” with someone like Cheney stumping for you. I would have rather seen AOC (watch the MAGA herd go wild) on stage with Harris than Cheney.
You're right. People like the Bushes and Cheneys are nothing more than RINO pieces of ****. But to advocate for AOC to be the dem's spokesperson is rather elitist. She represents none of the core values of avg. Americans. She's just a far-left, big city Marxist like yourself.
 
Have the BLM and Antifa riots started yet? Just wondering if I can unlock the doors and take down the blackout curtains.

I was assured there would be riots.
They're rioting in this forum now. Just look at #GravelRider #USCGhost go unhinged.
 
That source is a very right wing anti immigration group.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an American anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham alongside eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). It is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA.


Here are some of the CBO’s most striking predictions for the next decade:

  • The U.S. labor force will grow by an extra 5.2 million workers, mostly because of increased immigration. They will boost the country’s Gross Domestic Product by a total of 2%.
  • Immigrant workers will add an extra $7 trillion to the U.S. economy within the next decade and an extra $1 trillion in federal tax revenue.
  • New immigrants will prevent the U.S. population from shrinking. They will be the source of all U.S. population growth by 2042.
That group is expected to generate $1.175 trillion in increased federal revenue in the 2024-2034 period and $270 billion in mandatory outlays and net federal spending for a net decrease of $897 billion in the federal deficit


While there are always likely errors in any massive budget estimates. I would surely trust a non partisan report over the testimony given by known biased individual

This is an assessment and estimate on all immigrants not illegal immigrants. Not even a fair comparison.

They even state it doesn't look at the impact on state and local economies.

If this idea of flooding the country with illegal immigrants would be a benefit, why even bother with any cap on immigrants then. We can solve the debt crisis by importing hordes of low skilled uneducated illegal immigrants.

Oh wait, that doesn't work in reality.

I wonder why so many European countries are deporting illegal immigrants?
 
You're right. People like the Bushes and Cheneys are nothing more than RINO pieces of ****. But to advocate for AOC to be the dem's spokesperson is rather elitist. She represents none of the core values of avg. Americans. She's just a far-left, big city Marxist like yourself.

Oh boy, you’re fun. I’m waiting for the explanation on how the billionaires funding and the MSM supporting the Trump campaign are not elitist.
 
This is an assessment and estimate on all immigrants not illegal immigrants. Not even a fair comparison.

They even state it doesn't look at the impact on state and local economies.

If this idea of flooding the country with illegal immigrants would be a benefit, why even bother with any cap on immigrants then. We can solve the debt crisis by importing hordes of low skilled uneducated illegal immigrants.

Oh wait, that doesn't work in reality.

I wonder why so many European countries are deporting illegal immigrants?
The articles referenced the economic benefits of the "surge" of immigration since 2021. Which is what the voters were told to be concerned about.

Total economic benefits is the important metric. If in totality, it benefits the US economy, then that's the ultimate metric. If certain communities are affected more, then they should get more aid.

European countries don't have labor shortages like the US does. It's the opposite.

Elon musk himself talks about the perils of low birth rates. Just look at China, Japan, Russia. Immigration is a key advantage for the US due to higher birth rates.

Cheap low skilled labor is anti inflationary.
 
I’m enjoying watching these purple haired liberals cry on tik tok and instagram. I didn’t have a tik tok before but downloaded one to see these people have a melt down. Just put the fries in the bag bro



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Too far man. One of the highlights of these forums is the usually civil discourse.
 
Ahhhhh,

I remember this vividly. When all the polls were saying the race was tightening and KH had the advantage/momentum, I told everyone on here just look at the betting markets b/c they know what is really happening. I was told by most that its all gambling, whales fixing the numbers, no truth or connection with the electorate. So much ignorance on how betting works.

Instead of debating, I just waited until the election was over to have them eat some crow. Call me ignorant when I am right just makes you the laughing stock in the corner who thinks they are right.

In the am, Polymarket had DJT at about 55% and I was alittle worried. When the polls started to close he went back to 60% before any votes were counted. I knew where the election was going.

Around 8pm central, it kept around 60-65% and I knew it probably was over. Walked downstairs, got a glass of whiskey and started my celebratory drink

When 9pm central came, I went downstairs and told my wife it was over. The betting market has spoken. She looked at me like I was crazy. We turned the TV on to CNN and the experts all said its early and too close to call. No one knows what will happen. I told her it was OVER, put a fork in it.

10PM came and everyone was saying KH had an uphill to climb. My wife looked at me and said I was right. Of course I was right. 9pm had DJT at 70+% and most polls were closed. The writing was on the wall.


I vividly remember around 8pm DJT had a 2-3% lead in Virgina and MSM said it was too close to call. I didn't know Va was in play and not even on my radar. I went to Polymarket and they had KH at around 95%. I knew what was going to happen and KH had Va locked up. She won by 5%.

The Whales know. They always know before the public. If you see a line move, you know what is happening especially when bet on something where there are real insider information.
Buddy can you relax. You had a 50 50 chance of being right. My toddler gets his correct shoe on correct foot half the time too
 
I’m enjoying watching these purple haired liberals cry on tik tok and instagram. I didn’t have a tik tok before but downloaded one to see these people have a melt down. Just put the fries in the bag bro



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Dude, TMI. No one cares about your fetishes and what you do when you… “take care of little sevo00.”
 
So, should we start a new thread for 2028 election or just continue with this one. Assuming we have a 2028 election..
 
Buddy can you relax. You had a 50 50 chance of being right. My toddler gets his correct shoe on correct foot half the time too
ahhh, you are quite the fool.

It was not 50/50. If it was, then you could have been rich picking KH who was at 35% for a long time.

Polymatter picked every single swing state. If it was 50/50 then the chance of getting 7 right is less than 1%. Try again and educate yourself.


Let me help you out alittle. The MSM 10 hours ago says its too close to call on who will win the HOUSE. Blah blah blah.

Polymarket has it at 96% Repub control.

Here is another. 85% repub will get 220-224. Lets see if polymatter is right.


If you think its 50/50, I will give you 2:1 odds. Whatever or any amount of $$ under 10K. Now you can go back to your corner and get educated.
 
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ahhh, you are quite the fool.

It was not 50/50. If it was, then you could have been rich picking KH who was at 35% for a long time.

Polymatter picked every single swing state. If it was 50/50 then the chance of getting 7 right is less than 1%. Try again and educate yourself.


polymarket proved that if you actually have skin in the game, its a lot more accurate than all these so called media "pollsters". This was never 50/50
 
Have the BLM and Antifa riots started yet? Just wondering if I can unlock the doors and take down the blackout curtains.

I was assured there would be riots.
We leftists are too lazy to riot unless there is a government subsidy.
 
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