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Just bought a new Buick Encore for the fam, 28K, zero down, 0.9% financing, pretty sure no one will light it on fire…this is the car forum, right?

 

[MirrorTodd]

But the car sales are currently in the gutter. What are the chances that robotaxi will actually roll out this summer? That would be a game changer but the chances are low because musk is a shameless liar.

Tesla's Q1 Sales May Be Its Worst In Years As Analysts Warn Stock Could Sink 50% | Carscoops

JP Morgan even lowered its price target for Tesla shares to just $120 by the end of Q1

www.carscoops.com

Chances are about the same as them sending that robot to mars next year. Lol

 

[emergentmd]

I am on my 3rd Tesla. Bought the first when Biden was in office and Musk was voting D. Bought the 2nd when Musk started to voice anti-JB comments mostly due to JB making crazy statements about the big 3 EV push. Bought the 3rd after he got DJT elected.

Those who don't buy Tesla b.c of politics is just virtual signaling. They would never buy a Tesla but would buy Chinese stuff that abuse their workers or Nike stuff from vietnam that have sweat shops.

Tesla is not a luxury car. Their entry level is less than the avg new car and if you include the tax credit, is not much more than most entry level Lexus. Tesla pricing is close to Lexus pricing and cheaper than BMWs/Mercedes.

Until you drive one, buy one, or use their repair shops then everything you read on the internet is biased. Even most of their recalls are OTA updates. Yes, shocking but they are one of the few companies who uses OTAs rather than having to bring it in to fix the car. None of us would take our Iphones into apple to get updates when OTAs are ok.

Tesla Blows the 3 BMWs I have had in the past away. Buying a car is literally 1 hr total processes from start to finish. Takes 5 minutes to pick the car up. Recalls are almost all OTAs and the ones that needed physical fixes, they sent their mobile service to fix. Getting repairs is super easy where I am at. Fit/Finish has improved drastically with newer models.

There is a reason the MY is the #1 selling car not only in America, not only in EVs, BUT the best selling care regardless of type in the world.

If their fit/finish sucked or their repair shop sucked or fire issues or looks or whatever the reason were big issues then they would not be the best selling car 2 year running and likely will be this year.

 

[deleted87051]

Columbia loses $250M in NIH funding: 5 federal health updates - Becker's Hospital Review | Healthcare News & Analysis

Of the $400 million in federal funding cut from Columbia University in March, $250 million was tied to National Institutes of Health grants, leaving researchers reassessing which studies and programs will continue, The New York Times reported March 18. The $400 million in cuts were announced by...

www.beckershospitalreview.com

In wake of federal funding cuts, Johns Hopkins scales back USAID-supported work around the globe

Recent cancellation of federally funded grants results in significant changes for the university's global health activities

hub.jhu.edu

 

[deleted87051]

I am on my 3rd Tesla. Bought the first when Biden was in office and Musk was voting D. Bought the 2nd when Musk started to voice anti-JB comments mostly due to JB making crazy statements about the big 3 EV push. Bought the 3rd after he got DJT elected.

Those who don't buy Tesla b.c of politics is just virtual signaling. They would never buy a Tesla but would buy Chinese stuff that abuse their workers or Nike stuff from vietnam that have sweat shops.

Tesla is not a luxury car. Their entry level is less than the avg new car and if you include the tax credit, is not much more than most entry level Lexus. Tesla pricing is close to Lexus pricing and cheaper than BMWs/Mercedes.

Until you drive one, buy one, or use their repair shops then everything you read on the internet is biased. Even most of their recalls are OTA updates. Yes, shocking but they are one of the few companies who uses OTAs rather than having to bring it in to fix the car. None of us would take our Iphones into apple to get updates when OTAs are ok.

Tesla Blows the 3 BMWs I have had in the past away. Buying a car is literally 1 hr total processes from start to finish. Takes 5 minutes to pick the car up. Recalls are almost all OTAs and the ones that needed physical fixes, they sent their mobile service to fix. Getting repairs is super easy where I am at. Fit/Finish has improved drastically with newer models.

There is a reason the MY is the #1 selling car not only in America, not only in EVs, BUT the best selling care regardless of type in the world.

If their fit/finish sucked or their repair shop sucked or fire issues or looks or whatever the reason were big issues then they would not be the best selling car 2 year running and likely will be this year.

I actually agree they are pretty good cars and the M3 and MY are good values. I did have a problem with a part delay at a body shop for a model S (radiator support). Repair took 6 weeks. I’ve had 2 Chevy Silverados that needed major body work. Both repairs done in 4-5 days. Overall the cars are fine. But Musk has alienated his core market. Model Y will likely lose its position as the #1 seller. Sales in China, Europe and California are in the toilet.

Leaked report reveals shocking downfall for Tesla — here's what's driving the drop in sales

"Tesla sales have been declining worldwide, especially in Europe."

autos.yahoo.com

The optics scream desperation. Maybe Lutnick will pump my pillow guy next.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/20/trump-commerce-lutnick-elon-musk-tesla-stock-doge-cybertruck.html

“If you want to learn something on this show tonight, buy Tesla,” Lutnick said during an interview on Fox News with Jesse Watters.

“It’s unbelievable,” Lutnick said, drawing out the last word, “that this guy’s stock is so cheap.”

“It’ll never be this cheap again,” Lutnick continued, next to a split screen of video showing flames from Teslas in Las Vegas that were set on fire by Molotov cocktails earlier in the week.“

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-upgraded-cantor-fitzgerald-autonomous-163241150.html

JPMorgan Says Tesla Is About To Have A Bad Time

The firm cut Tesla's delivery forecast by 20 percent and said that stock could eventually drop even more to USD 120 per share.

www.luxuo.com

 

[PainInTheAnes]

Columbia loses $250M in NIH funding: 5 federal health updates - Becker's Hospital Review | Healthcare News & Analysis

Of the $400 million in federal funding cut from Columbia University in March, $250 million was tied to National Institutes of Health grants, leaving researchers reassessing which studies and programs will continue, The New York Times reported March 18. The $400 million in cuts were announced by...

www.beckershospitalreview.com

Sounds like a great way they can use their 14.8 billion dollar endowment. They can shore up the gaps with their own money while they get their students disciplined and stop violating title IX

 

[deleted87051]

Sounds like a great way they can use their 14.8 billion dollar endowment. They can shore up the gaps with their own money while they get their students disciplined and stop violating title IX

Hope they do that instead of collapsing multi-center cancer trials. The funding cuts will also hurt all students and faculty, Christians, Jews, and pagans alike.

 

[Ezekiel2517]

Tesla is a computer company making cars. Their QC is leave a lot to be desired.

For a tech company, they sure do suck at innovating. I can’t think of a single innovation from them in the last 5-6 years at least. They’re basically just making cars lol. Elon should make it a project for one of his doge teens. Maybe feed em some good old vitamin K from his stash to get the gears turning

 

[PainInTheAnes]

Hope they do that instead of collapsing multi-center cancer trials. The funding cuts will also hurt all students and faculty, Christians, Jews, and pagans alike.

We'll see where their true values are pretty soon. Whatever happens to the universities with multi billion dollar endowments is their own responsibility. I am tired of them crying poor about cuts to government funding while they rake in billions and exclude people to exacerbate America's educational inequality, while paying zero taxes on their winnings as "non profits". Ask some donors for money, if they have any left, from their pre antisemitism era.

 

[deleted87051]

We'll see where their true values are pretty soon. Whatever happens to the universities with multi billion dollar endowments is their own responsibility. I am tired of them crying poor about cuts to government funding while they rake in billions and exclude people to exacerbate America's educational inequality, while paying zero taxes on their winnings as "non profits". Ask some donors for money, if they have any left, from their pre antisemitism era.

Unlikely. They’ll shutter labs before dipping into their endowments. Anyway rich premeds at Columbia who need research experience are resourceful and have other career options. They may have to regroup but they’ll land on their feet. There’s always law school😉

 

[Gern Blansten]

For a tech company, they sure do suck at innovating. I can’t think of a single innovation from them in the last 5-6 years at least. They’re basically just making cars lol. Elon should make it a project for one of his doge teens. Maybe feed em some good old vitamin K from his stash to get the gears turning

I don't own a Tesla, but I think Tesla is doing stuff no other car companies have done.
Tesla has quite a lot of things you won't find in other cars.
Tesla innovations:
-Over the air software updates
-sentry mode anti theft technology
-semi-autonomous driving
-bioweapon defense mode using super efficient HEPA filters-likely to never be needed, but may be cool for allergy sufferers
-extensive and growing network of rapid superchargers.
-dog mode-maintains temperature for a pet and alerts passersby that it is functioning and that the owner will return soon.
-arcade and video streaming for passengers
-improved battery range for longer distances

 

[Gern Blansten]

Unlikely. They’ll shutter labs before dipping into their endowments. Anyway rich premeds at Columbia who need research experience are resourceful and have other career options. They may have to regroup but they’ll land on their feet. There’s always law school😉

Agree. It seems that no large university ever touches their endowment. It is considered taboo. However, some are so large, that it makes no sense not to use them to defray some of the expenses. I've only heard about a very select few who actually utilize their endowment to make a noticeable difference in the costs for students. The endowments just grow and grow and grow. It seems to be a badge of honor for the Deans and Chancellors and Provosts (or whoever) to see who can grow their endowments the most.

 

[PainInTheAnes]

Unlikely. They’ll shutter labs before dipping into their endowments. Anyway rich premeds at Columbia who need research experience are resourceful and have other career options. They may have to regroup but they’ll land on their feet. There’s always law school😉

Then they’ll finally be exposed as more part of Wall Street than Main Street. These sorry institutions have guarded the prosperity for long enough. I hope a free market competitor comes in and drives their vaunted pieces of paper into obsolescence. I pray my kids will have a path to success that can be built on hard work and resourcefulness rather than sequestered elitism. Even though you’d hate that system 😉

 

[PainDrain]

Then they’ll finally be exposed as more part of Wall Street than Main Street. These sorry institutions have guarded the prosperity for long enough. I hope a free market competitor comes in and drives their vaunted pieces of paper into obsolescence. I pray my kids will have a path to success that can be built on hard work and resourcefulness rather than sequestered elitism. Even though you’d hate that system 😉

So you want a meritocracy but don’t want one. 👌

 

[deleted87051]

Then they’ll finally be exposed as more part of Wall Street than Main Street. These sorry institutions have guarded the prosperity for long enough. I hope a free market competitor comes in and drives their vaunted pieces of paper into obsolescence. I pray my kids will have a path to success that can be built on hard work and resourcefulness rather than sequestered elitism. Even though you’d hate that system 😉

It’s true and it’s not news. Columbia and NYU are 2 of the largest property owners in Manhattan but they are exempt from property taxes.

It is/was a free market. Both institutions knew the game very well but the rules are now changed. NYU is a relative upstart. Through the 1980s and 1990s NYU was basically a commuter school where you just go in and sign up. Nowadays they have an 8% admission rate with students from all over the world.

 

[deleted87051]

Agree. It seems that no large university ever touches their endowment. It is considered taboo. However, some are so large, that it makes no sense not to use them to defray some of the expenses. I've only heard about a very select few who actually utilize their endowment to make a noticeable difference in the costs for students. The endowments just grow and grow and grow. It seems to be a badge of honor for the Deans and Chancellors and Provosts (or whoever) to see who can grow their endowments the most.

The wealthy elite universities are also known as investment funds with a side business in education and research. One of my college friends was a law school dean and he’s now the president of a university. He spends 75% of his time fundraising.

 

[PainInTheAnes]

So you want a meritocracy but don’t want one. 👌

Can you elaborate on this further?

I’d like everyone smart enough to do college level work to have access to a degree of the level commensurate with their intelligence. That’s pure meritocracy…

Schools like Columbia and NYU should be 20x as large as they are and tuition should be less than 1/4 of what it currently is, and state universities should have unlimited class sizes. The solution to college costs is scaling. The marginal additional student costs schools zero.

 

[deleted87051]

Can you elaborate on this further?

I’d like everyone smart enough to do college level work to have access to a degree of the level commensurate with their intelligence. That’s pure meritocracy…

Schools like Columbia and NYU should be 20x as large as they are and tuition should be less than 1/4 of what it currently is, and state universities should have unlimited class sizes. The solution to college costs is scaling. The marginal additional student costs schools zero.

The coursework is the least of the problems for students at elite universities. Most of the applicants are capable of passing the coursework. It’s a never ending grind to get into the right clubs, the right internships (Jane Street, Citadel) and the right labs. The universities don’t have a monopoly on elitism and hypercompetitiveness which are planet earth problems.

 

[PainInTheAnes]

The coursework is the least of the problems for students at elite universities. It’s a never ending grind to get into the right clubs, the right internships (Jane Street, Citadel) and the right labs. The universities don’t have a monopoly on elitism and hypercompetitiveness which are planet earth problems.

I’d be happy for the competition to be at the level of internships and job applications. The “mediocre” Columbia graduate can still have a shot at a better life despite not getting that job at Goldman Sachs. I’d be over the moon if the top kids who felt forced to go to state schools for money reasons can go where they want because there’s plenty of spots for kids who make the grade

That frees up space for someone to complete a top state university education that normally would have to drop down tiers of school because now flagship state universities are just as bad as Ivy League schools in 2010 with their admission rates.

Seriously. Why the heck is a 1600 SAT not automatic admission and free ride to every school in the country? Why do we expect freaking high schoolers to be “well rounded?” Do we truly need more teenagers with crippling anxiety and imposter syndrome?

 

[deleted87051]

I’d be happy for the competition to be at the level of internships and job applications. The “mediocre” Columbia graduate can still have a shot at a better life despite not getting that job at Goldman Sachs. I’d be over the moon if the top kids who felt forced to go to state schools for money reasons can go where they want because there’s plenty of spots for kids who make the grade

That frees up space for someone to complete a top state university education that normally would have to drop down tiers of school because now flagship state universities are just as bad as Ivy League schools in 2010 with their admission rates.

Seriously. Why the heck is a 1600 SAT not automatic admission and free ride to every school in the country? Why do we expect freaking high schoolers to be “well rounded?” Do we truly need more teenagers with crippling anxiety and imposter syndrome?

I work with a gastroenterologist from India and he said each school has a hard cutoff on the national college entrance exam. He said he started studying for it in 5th grade. If you are above the cutoff for a given year, you are automatically admitted, if not it’s an automatic rejection. Korea does it that way too.

I have a lot to say about the “well rounded” part but need to organize my thoughts and will address it later.

 

[PainDrain]

I work with a gastroenterologist from India and he said each school has a hard cutoff on the national college entrance exam. He said he started studying for it in 5th grade. If you are above the cutoff for a given year, you are automatically admitted, if not it’s an automatic rejection. Korea does it that way too.

Those above the cut can expect to rise and have a decent life. Those below the cut will remain stuck in the lower class until the next generation.

 

[deleted87051]

Those above the cut can expect to rise and have a decent life. Those below the cut will remain stuck in the lower class until the next generation.

For many Koreans there will be no next generation.

 

[maxxor]

For many Koreans there will be no next generation.

Wonder when there will be more Koreans outside the peninsula than inside?

 

[PainInTheAnes]

Those above the cut can expect to rise and have a decent life. Those below the cut will remain stuck in the lower class until the next generation.

Would be way easier to rise up if their top universities just quadrupled their spots. Cheaper too. People could use the money currently wasted on tutors to have some more kids

 

[deleted87051]

Wonder when there will be more Koreans outside the peninsula than inside?

It’ll be a long time if ever. Outside of Korea, greater LA has the largest population of Korean descent with around 250-300,000 people. Seoul alone has a population of 10mil, almost all Korean. Korea has a birth rate of 0.7. If they don’t get busier, it would take 50 years for the population to decline by half.

 

[PainDrain]

Would be way easier to rise up if their top universities just quadrupled their spots. Cheaper too. People could use the money currently wasted on tutors to have some more kids

Like I said before. You seem to want a meritocracy but also don’t want one at the same time. If you want a society that values hard work then you need tiers of education and institutions. If everyone got an Ivy league degree what good does that do? Many of those people worked hard and set themselves apart early in life and they have the skill set to succeed in high stakes positions as adults. Sure they could open the admissions process up more but then you may not get the talent you are looking for.

Do you really believe these institutions have such tight admissions just to keep people down and charge high tuition?

 

[emergentmd]

For a tech company, they sure do suck at innovating. I can’t think of a single innovation from them in the last 5-6 years at least. They’re basically just making cars lol. Elon should make it a project for one of his doge teens. Maybe feed em some good old vitamin K from his stash to get the gears turning

You are wrong and either ignorant or just hating the man. You can't think of one because you don't care to look. Let me just help you out

1. Steer by wire - Yes, been done before but never at this scale
2. Metallurgical stainless steel production
3. Giga casting
4. OTA updates in cars
5. Best in class autonomous software based on AI
6. Heat pumps
7. Supercharging network and seamless integration

I can go on and on but I think this is enough to educate how wrong you are but you likely will continue with blind hate.

 

[PainInTheAnes]

Like I said before. You seem to want a meritocracy but also don’t want one at the same time. If you want a society that values hard work then you need tiers of education and institutions. If everyone got an Ivy league degree what good does that do? Many of those people worked hard and set themselves apart early in life and they have the skill set to succeed in high stakes positions as adults. Sure they could open the admissions process up more but then you may not get the talent you are looking for.

Do you really believe these institutions have such tight admissions just to keep people down and charge high tuition?

I’m sorry, the overwhelming refrain from employers is that they can’t find capable graduates to do intellectual, conscientious work. So clearly there’s a demand for more talent with a better education or better skills than they’re currently getting.

No one is saying make them degree mills, but the idea that high school is a determining factor of people’s success in America to the extent that it is in this country is a joke.

Allow people in for low cost. If they can do the work, they’re Harvard/stanford/columbia material. End of story. They leave with a degree if they do the work, if they can’t then they try somewhere else or start working.

If everyone can do the work, they clear the bar for whatever the universities are trying to achieve. They should be allowed to try to do the work and sink or swim in their own. It should not come down to insane application hacking at age 16 like it does now.

What you seem to want is the opposite of meritocracy. You want to make it difficult for people to differentiate themselves with their acquired knowledge, life lessons, and work in college, when they’re expected to be more adult than in high school. A caste system, if you will. Get the right caste at birth and age 15, and you’re good.

Don’t, and you’re shut out from it forever. And for what? So employers can continue to have an easy proxy to differentiate people rather than using their work once they’re hired? They can look at gpa if they’re struggling so much to figure if Columbia graduate 1500 is different from Columbia graduate 15000.

And OF COURSE they keep the club small on purpose to be elitist. That’s what elitists DO

 

[emergentmd]

I actually agree they are pretty good cars and the M3 and MY are good values. I did have a problem with a part delay at a body shop for a model S (radiator support). Repair took 6 weeks. I’ve had 2 Chevy Silverados that needed major body work. Both repairs done in 4-5 days. Overall the cars are fine. But Musk has alienated his core market. Model Y will likely lose its position as the #1 seller. Sales in China, Europe and California are in the toilet.

You can always point to single case where things work better than Tesla.

I took my chevy to have repairs because the AC/Heater stopped working. I was told it was a software issue when I brought it in on Friday at 10am. Told that it was a software issue but the guy who does the software fix won't be in til Monday. So took 3 dys to essentially fix a software issue.

My experience with Tesla in major US city has been impeccable. Tesla's fit/finish is not close to Mercedes BUT they are better in almost every other way.

 

[emergentmd]

Overall the cars are fine. But Musk has alienated his core market. Model Y will likely lose its position as the #1 seller. Sales in China, Europe and California are in the toilet.

You could very well be right and if you believe this, you should short the stock or buy bearish options.

But Tesla's valuation is not based on making cars or making profit on the cars. Cars are a means to autonomy, energy storage, optimus. I am continuing to buy on the down because I firmly believe they will be the most valuable company in 7-10 years.

I bought Tesla when it was a left leaning star. I will buy that is is a right leaning star. Valuation does not matter its political leaning, its core product is what will move the market.

 

[emergentmd]

We'll see where their true values are pretty soon. Whatever happens to the universities with multi billion dollar endowments is their own responsibility. I am tired of them crying poor about cuts to government funding while they rake in billions and exclude people to exacerbate America's educational inequality, while paying zero taxes on their winnings as "non profits". Ask some donors for money, if they have any left, from their pre antisemitism era.

They will do what all companies do no matter how "virtuous" they claim to be. They will beg for the money back and bend the knee OR they will cut other programs. I am betting on bending the knee. Rich people/companies/universities #1 priority is accumulating wealth and everything else is a distant 2nd.

You know like Buffet saying he should pay more taxes but could easily just send the IRS $1 billion to fulfill this belief. I am still waiting on him voluntarily paying more taxes.

 

[pgg]

You know like Buffet saying he should pay more taxes but could easily just send the IRS $1 billion to fulfill this belief. I am still waiting on him voluntarily paying more taxes.

Wealthy people can be sincerely willing to pay higher taxes, but also understand that being the only person to pay more taxes (voluntarily) is just pointless.

I don't know if Buffet is sincere or not. I'm just pointing out that not mailing in a $1 billion check doesn't make him a hypocrite.

 

[Dragonite7]

I’m sorry, the overwhelming refrain from employers is that they can’t find capable graduates to do intellectual, conscientious work. So clearly there’s a demand for more talent with a better education or better skills than they’re currently getting.

No one is saying make them degree mills, but the idea that high school is a determining factor of people’s success in America to the extent that it is in this country is a joke.

Allow people in for low cost. If they can do the work, they’re Harvard/stanford/columbia material. End of story. They leave with a degree if they do the work, if they can’t then they try somewhere else or start working.

If everyone can do the work, they clear the bar for whatever the universities are trying to achieve. They should be allowed to try to do the work and sink or swim in their own. It should not come down to insane application hacking at age 16 like it does now.

What you seem to want is the opposite of meritocracy. You want to make it difficult for people to differentiate themselves with their acquired knowledge, life lessons, and work in college, when they’re expected to be more adult than in high school. A caste system, if you will. Get the right caste at birth and age 15, and you’re good.

Don’t, and you’re shut out from it forever. And for what? So employers can continue to have an easy proxy to differentiate people rather than using their work once they’re hired? They can look at gpa if they’re struggling so much to figure if Columbia graduate 1500 is different from Columbia graduate 15000.

And OF COURSE they keep the club small on purpose to be elitist. That’s what elitists DO

Capable graduates are in short supply because pre-college education has imploded. You can look at high school math and reading scores over time. Students graduate unable to properly read or study and continue that trend in college. There is no magic potion Ivies give their students that other universities don't have. Nor is your life over if you don't get into one like this ridiculous hyperbole you keep spouting about a caste system, plenty of people from lowly state colleges do better in life than Ivy graduates because they put in the work.
You also don't seem to understand how finite resources work. You need more professors to teach more students, programs to develop them, buildings to hold classes in, opportunities to gain experience, etc. Increasing enrollment 20x would just massively drop the educational standards.

 

[Dragonite7]

The point of an endowment is that by growing it over time with compound interest, you are able to both make things cheaper and develop the institution because of exponential growth. Same principle as to why no one smart blows all their money as soon as they get it, but instead saves up. All of these institutions with high endowments do spend it. Harvard just made all tuition free for students with parents who make less than $200k for instance, and if you ever actually interact with them you'll find that they're more generous with aid than a lot of state universities. You only pay the sticker price for tuition if you're rich.

 

[pgg]

5. Best in class autonomous software based on AI

What do you think about Tesla's insistence on using only optical/camera sensors?

It seems to me that this is an odd design choice based on wishful thinking, vs an approach that integrates different types of sensors (like lidar). Computers don't have attention fatigue or trouble multitasking - there's no reason why an AI couldn't learn to drive based on input from cameras and lidar and IR and ____. Limiting the AI's input to cameras seems to put a ceiling on performance.

Musk has certainly made some visionary design choices that went against commonly held beliefs. Good example being using stainless steel for Starship. But I wonder if his insistence on ONLY using cameras because humans ONLY use eyeballs is holding Tesla back when it comes to autonomous driving.

 

[maxxor]

What do you think about Tesla's insistence on using only optical/camera sensors?

It seems to me that this is an odd design choice based on wishful thinking, vs an approach that integrates different types of sensors (like lidar). Computers don't have attention fatigue or trouble multitasking - there's no reason why an AI couldn't learn to drive based on input from cameras and lidar and IR and ____. Limiting the AI's input to cameras seems to put a ceiling on performance.

Musk has certainly made some visionary design choices that went against commonly held beliefs. Good example being using stainless steel for Starship. But I wonder if his insistence on ONLY using cameras because humans ONLY use eyeballs is holding Tesla back when it comes to autonomous driving.

I’m sure it was justified as “humans only have vision” but I’m pretty sure the real reason was the covid chip crisis and radar / USS sensors got too expensive.

 

[aneftp]

How long does upenn (trump went there) last without some federal funding?

Federal Government Updates | University Communications

“The American higher education system is one of America’s greatest strengths. A social contract has long enabled U.S. colleges and universities to serve individuals, communities, and government for the good of all. This contract has been a cornerstone of innovation and opportunity in our society.

university-communications.upenn.edu

 

[PainInTheAnes]

The point of an endowment is that by growing it over time with compound interest, you are able to both make things cheaper and develop the institution because of exponential growth. Same principle as to why no one smart blows all their money as soon as they get it, but instead saves up. All of these institutions with high endowments do spend it. Harvard just made all tuition free for students with parents who make less than $200k for instance, and if you ever actually interact with them you'll find that they're more generous with aid than a lot of state universities. You only pay the sticker price for tuition if you're rich.

Harvard is doing that for press releases and public good will (not generosity, but the naive probably believe that), which they need after their antisemite-in-chief "Dr." Plagarist "It depends on the context" was run out of town. It is completely immaterial to them gatekeeping their institutions in a way that would make the kings of olde blush. I do not care how generous they are with financial aid, the Ivy league universities should have been free decades ago, and grown their enrollment faster than their stupid endowments. These hedge funders are absolutely creating a caste system in this country, and it is not in any way hyperbole to say that. I am happy to give you the stats on college attendance at ivy leagues versus other schools and life outcomes of college graduates if you'd like.

I know plenty of lowly state college kids do very well, but they're hardly lowly any more. FSU for example is accepting 25% of their applicants, down from 52% in 2000. University of California Berkeley accepted 11.3% of their applicants in 2022, down from 25% in 2000. Why are these schools not letting in more applicants over time, rather than less? Are kids getting dumber or smarter by SAT scores? Does everyone need to live on campus? Does everyone need to go to the football game? What do we make of remote campuses which are all over every state university system?

You absolutely do NOT need more professors to spread the knowledge of college. For someone accusing me of not understanding "how finite resources work," I wonder how the marvels of the video camera and the computer got past you. These devices have made mass accessibility of information and testing assessment possible. Believe it or not, the same thing happened with the printing press, and tons of people suddenly got literate. They didn't sequester the new books in impenetrable castles after it was affordable to distribute them to everyone. College lecture halls are not different in the slightest, especially in the lower level classes.

If the best thing the ivy league and other private colleges have to offer is exclusivity and connections as opposed to degrees (which is the best predictor we have of financial success in your early 20s), then they need to be reimagined completely, and if they refuse, then they need to have their federal funding pulled and given to state schools to increase their enrollments. They're supposed to be enriching the entirety of society, not just the kids whose parents can afford 100k per year college counselors and those with the resources to volunteer for 10000 hours as teenagers helping the sick in Bangladesh.

 

[emergentmd]

I don't know if Buffet is sincere or not. I'm just pointing out that not mailing in a $1 billion check doesn't make him a hypocrite.

I will disagree. If you are going to make a big deal out of paying a lower tax rate than his secretary then he could easily fix this. if you don't plan on voluntarily increase your own tax rate, then best to be quiet. He could easily increase his company tax rate by not taking every deduction available to the rich but you know he takes every last one of them.

So on one hand he mouths that he should pay a higher tax rate and on the other hand he uses every rich person loop hole there is. if not hypocritical, it is at least disingenuous.

I make a great living, more $$ than I need. I think helping the poor is important so I donate good amount to the church and local programs for the poor. If I state that the poor need help, but never give them a dime, then I would be a hypocrite.

 

[emergentmd]

What do you think about Tesla's insistence on using only optical/camera sensors?

It seems to me that this is an odd design choice based on wishful thinking, vs an approach that integrates different types of sensors (like lidar). Computers don't have attention fatigue or trouble multitasking - there's no reason why an AI couldn't learn to drive based on input from cameras and lidar and IR and ____. Limiting the AI's input to cameras seems to put a ceiling on performance.

Musk has certainly made some visionary design choices that went against commonly held beliefs. Good example being using stainless steel for Starship. But I wonder if his insistence on ONLY using cameras because humans ONLY use eyeballs is holding Tesla back when it comes to autonomous driving.

The price of Lidar and the other sensors are prohibitively expensive and bulky. Waymo cars costs 200K+ while a Tesla M3 with FSD is like 45K. He knew with Lidar, he would have to map everything and account for all permutations of "objects" and scenarios. So he chose camera only and let the computer learn then figure it out which is what Humans do. We learn and when something new comes up, more learning where eventually there are almost zero scenarios that will occur. Drive 15mil miles a day and that is more learning than any human would get in 10 lifetimes.

Tesla started with a bunch of sensors and massive codes. They switched to camera only and now dropped hundreds of thousands of lines of codes. Before the camera only switch, it was almost useless. Fast forward over a year after the switch and I drive on FSD 99% on highway and about 75% on city. I just did a 3hr drive in the dark on a 1 lane county road and felt safer letting the car drive than my having to see every obstruction or animal that could dart out.

About 6 months ago, I was driving on a one lane road at night on FSD at 65mph. The car suddenly went full stopped which freaked me out and then I saw a dear dart by. I would have either barely missed the dear of hit it dead on. Happened another time and the car slowed down where I saw a dear on the side of the road. In no way could a human have seen the deer before the car did. We are trained to look essentially straight while the car can look straight, prepare for turns, sense objects we can not see.

People laugh at Tesla, but they are very very close. I would say FSD is better than the average driver. They just need to prove 2+ SD above the avg driver and get governmental approval.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

You are wrong and either ignorant or just hating the man. You can't think of one because you don't care to look. Let me just help you out

1. Steer by wire - Yes, been done before but never at this scale
2. Metallurgical stainless steel production
3. Giga casting
4. OTA updates in cars
5. Best in class autonomous software based on AI
6. Heat pumps
7. Supercharging network and seamless integration

I can go on and on but I think this is enough to educate how wrong you are but you likely will continue with blind hate.

Lol the innovation is so awesome they don't even need to actually fasten those stainless steel pieces to the car with any fastener! They just glue them on and they stay there, it's mindblowing! Oh or not I guess.....

There have been so many videos showing what a POS a cyber "truck" is, it's hard to pick one. Tow hitch literally cracked off one before it cracked a 20 year old Dodge Ram. Maybe cause they're gigacasting huge aluminum pieces which aren't exactly known for their tensile strength vs steel...but then putting giant steel pieces on the OUTSIDE glued to the weaker frame haha what a design choice.

The price of Lidar and the other sensors are prohibitively expensive and bulky. Waymo cars costs 200K+ while a Tesla M3 with FSD is like 45K. He knew with Lidar, he would have to map everything and account for all permutations of "objects" and scenarios. So he chose camera only and let the computer learn then figure it out which is what Humans do. We learn and when something new comes up, more learning where eventually there are almost zero scenarios that will occur. Drive 15mil miles a day and that is more learning than any human would get in 10 lifetimes.

Tesla started with a bunch of sensors and massive codes. They switched to camera only and now dropped hundreds of thousands of lines of codes. Before the camera only switch, it was almost useless. Fast forward over a year after the switch and I drive on FSD 99% on highway and about 75% on city. I just did a 3hr drive in the dark on a 1 lane county road and felt safer letting the car drive than my having to see every obstruction or animal that could dart out.

About 6 months ago, I was driving on a one lane road at night on FSD at 65mph. The car suddenly went full stopped which freaked me out and then I saw a dear dart by. I would have either barely missed the dear of hit it dead on. Happened another time and the car slowed down where I saw a dear on the side of the road. In no way could a human have seen the deer before the car did. We are trained to look essentially straight while the car can look straight, prepare for turns, sense objects we can not see.

People laugh at Tesla, but they are very very close. I would say FSD is better than the average driver. They just need to prove 2+ SD above the avg driver and get governmental approval.

Buttt can't figure out something like "hey this is a big screen in front of me not actually a road", something my kid could figure out?
Lidar also isn't prohibitively expensive, it's what literally every other car manufacturer uses for their adaptive cruise control/semi self driving stuff. My 2020 Audi has lidar sensors.

 

[Dragonite7]

Harvard is doing that for press releases and public good will (not generosity, but the naive probably believe that), which they need after their antisemite-in-chief "Dr." Plagarist "It depends on the context" was run out of town. It is completely immaterial to them gatekeeping their institutions in a way that would make the kings of olde blush. I do not care how generous they are with financial aid, the Ivy league universities should have been free decades ago, and grown their enrollment faster than their stupid endowments. These hedge funders are absolutely creating a caste system in this country, and it is not in any way hyperbole to say that. I am happy to give you the stats on college attendance at ivy leagues versus other schools and life outcomes of college graduates if you'd like.

I know plenty of lowly state college kids do very well, but they're hardly lowly any more. FSU for example is accepting 25% of their applicants, down from 52% in 2000. University of California Berkeley accepted 11.3% of their applicants in 2022, down from 25% in 2000. Why are these schools not letting in more applicants over time, rather than less? Are kids getting dumber or smarter by SAT scores? Does everyone need to live on campus? Does everyone need to go to the football game? What do we make of remote campuses which are all over every state university system?

You absolutely do NOT need more professors to spread the knowledge of college. For someone accusing me of not understanding "how finite resources work," I wonder how the marvels of the video camera and the computer got past you. These devices have made mass accessibility of information and testing assessment possible. Believe it or not, the same thing happened with the printing press, and tons of people suddenly got literate. They didn't sequester the new books in impenetrable castles after it was affordable to distribute them to everyone. College lecture halls are not different in the slightest, especially in the lower level classes.

If the best thing the ivy league and other private colleges have to offer is exclusivity and connections as opposed to degrees (which is the best predictor we have of financial success in your early 20s), then they need to be reimagined completely, and if they refuse, then they need to have their federal funding pulled and given to state schools to increase their enrollments. They're supposed to be enriching the entirety of society, not just the kids whose parents can afford 100k per year college counselors and those with the resources to volunteer for 10000 hours as teenagers helping the sick in Bangladesh.

There's the usual quick pivot and moving of goalposts. Even before this announcement, Harvard was cheaper than the average public university for 90% of American families. And just ignore my whole point about how a growing endowment is better for students in the long-term. College acceptance rates have dropped because more people are applying to colleges, and applying way more broadly with social media and the Internet pushing it. There are more colleges and more seats to accomodate those applicants. The percent of students going to public universities has actually dropped slightly since 2000. As for remote campuses, I consider those a scam with rampant cheating and worse teaching. It's well-known on any state campus that the students who get online degrees are much worse than the real on-campus students. I took a few online classes in undergrad to take the easy route and they were all jokes.

 

[Dragonite7]

It's funny that you keep whining about a "caste system" but hate the DEI efforts these universities spearheaded before the Supreme Court case. I don't like DEI but it seems odd to put in so much work to try and admit poor, underserved students if you just wanted to gatekeep admission. I've met people on the admissions committees from these schools and you have no idea what you're talking about describing them as "hedge funders." The actual hedge funders are off enjoying their mansions, not working for below-average pay at a university. I met a student with loaded parents that donated millions to an Ivy, and the student got rejected anyway.

You're attacking what is the most potent meritocracy in the US. Sure, socioeconomic status gives you a leg up for applying to university - like literally everything everywhere in the world. But college is something that everyone can apply to and the rules of the game are widely publicized these days (I know students on food stamps that got into Stanford who definitely were not paying 100k for counselors like your hyperbolic example).

You also confuse cause and effect. Companies don't like to hire Stanford and MIT grads because they have a piece of paper that says Stanford or MIT. They like them because they know the average grad is going to be higher quality. In your scenario where anyone gets in, they would just stop giving new students opportunities and go back to hiring based on connections and nepotism. What you want would increase exclusivity, not decrease it. FWIW I went to a lowly state college (an actual lowly one, not Berkeley which has always been incredible). I just think your logic is backwards.

 

[emergentmd]

Lidar also isn't prohibitively expensive, it's what literally every other car manufacturer uses for their adaptive cruise control/semi self driving stuff. My 2020 Audi has lidar sensors.

Google cost of a waymo car that doesn't even include humans in the background to fix any issues. But sure, its not a big expense. Brilliant without research.

Typical ignorance basing knowledge by googling, "bad issues with Tesla". Look at me, I google and it says Tesla makes the worse cars.

Everyone who thinks Tesla is a terrible company that makes terrible cars without any tech edge should have the same conviction to bet against the stock. You could literally be millionaires by buying bearish options if the stock tanks. But you know that its all talk without conviction. Me? I have 500K+ in their stock and will continue to buy on dips.

To save you a click (from worst to slightly less bad): From Consumer reports least reliable cars

1. Ford F-150 Hybrid
2. GMC Canyon
3. Chevy Colorado
4. Rivian R1T
5. Ford Escape Hybrid
6. Jeep Grand Cherokee L
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee
8. Nissan Frontier
9. Jeep Wrangler
10. Ford F-150 Lightning
11. Genesis G70
12. Volkswagen ID.4

 

[Splenda88]

Typical ignorance basing knowledge by googling, "bad issues with Tesla". Look at me, I google and it says Tesla makes the worse cars.

Everyone who thinks Tesla is a terrible company that makes terrible cars without any tech edge should have the same conviction to bet against the stock. You could literally be millionaires by buying bearish options if the stock tanks. But you know that its all talk without conviction. Me? I have 500K+ in their stock and will continue to buy on dips.

To save you a click (from worst to slightly less bad): From Consumer reports least reliable cars

1. Ford F-150 Hybrid
2. GMC Canyon
3. Chevy Colorado
4. Rivian R1T
5. Ford Escape Hybrid
6. Jeep Grand Cherokee L
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee
8. Nissan Frontier
9. Jeep Wrangler
10. Ford F-150 Lightning
11. Genesis G70
12. Volkswagen ID.4

Good luck!

Institutional investors are dumping the stock and big share holders a calling on Elon to step down or resign.

US will be the only significant market available to Tesla in the next few years.

Sales are dropping and will continue to drop. You don't entangle yourself in politics (especially US politics) the way Elon does when you have such a big recognizable company.

I have a model Y and I like the car. However, I am glad I dumped my TSLA stock for a small profit before the election.

 

[chessknt]

I know intellectual honesty died a long time ago but here ya go. Can't talk about a brand at the individual car level, big picture **** man.

 

[emergentmd]

Good luck!

Institutional investors are dumping the stock and big share holders a calling on Elon to step down or resign.

US will be the only significant market available to Tesla in the next few years.

Sales are dropping and will continue to drop. You don't entangle yourself in politics (especially US politics) the way Elon does when you have such a big recognizable company.

I have a model Y and I like the car. However, I am glad I dumped my TSLA stock for a small profit before the election.

Musk getting into politics was a bad decision from a stock valuation POV but a small bump in the road IMO.

But people keep getting blinded that it is a car company. They make cars BUT their valuation has little to do with making cars. In no technical world are their valuation linked to how many cars they make, no different than Amazon's valuation linked to selling stuff on their marketplace.

Their valuation is connected to FSD, Optimus, and Energy storage. The advancement of FSD has been impressive; ask anyone who actually uses it on a daily basis. I am not betting against a man who can reuse rockets, land it on a boat, catch it with chopsticks, and get astronauts back after a billion dollar company failed.

 

[emergentmd]

10 years ago, people and the media loved Musk. Look at the great cars they are making and saving the planet.
Now, Musk switched to R. Look at the crappy cars they make and what a terrible product they make.

Pull up whatever polls, opinion page, youtube hit piece you want.

I will trust and go with people who actually bought the car. But hey, Mary Jane who hates Musk thinks Tsla is a crappy car so it must be true. Sometimes docs who are good at test taking have poor critical thinking.

 

[deleted87051]

I know intellectual honesty died a long time ago but here ya go. Can't talk about a brand at the individual car level, big picture **** man.

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10 years ago, people and the media loved Musk. Look at the great cars they are making and saving the planet.
Now, Musk switched to R. Look at the crappy cars they make and what a terrible product they make.

Pull up whatever polls, opinion page, youtube hit piece you want.

I will trust and go with people who actually bought the car. But hey, Mary Jane who hates Musk thinks Tsla is a crappy car so it must be true. Sometimes docs who are good at test taking have poor critical thinking.

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It amazing that Rivians have poor reliability but their owners have the highest satisfaction. Given the brands at the top of the satisfaction list (Rivian, Tesla, BMW, Porsche), satisfaction may have more to do with achieving goals/aspirations than the car itself.

Also shameful that Japanese brands perennially have the highest reliability while American brands have the lowest.

 

[maxxor]

It amazing that Rivians have poor reliability but their owners have the highest satisfaction. Given the brands at the top of the satisfaction list (Rivian, Tesla, BMW, Porsche), satisfaction may have more to do with achieving goals/aspirations than the car itself.

Also shameful that Japanese brands perennially have the highest reliability while American brands have the lowest.

There’s nothing quite like the Rivian Truck offering on the market. The closest would be Scout but that’s not coming for a couple years.