It's a good thing Hegseth has stated what he believes women's roles in the military should be so we can clear this up:
“I’m straight up just saying we should not have women in combat roles. It hasn’t made us more effective. Hasn’t made us more lethal. Has made fighting more complicated,” he said in a podcast hosted by Shawn Ryan on Nov. 7 2024.
Women have a place in the military, he said, just not in special operations, artillery, infantry and armor units.
In his book, he said women have performed well in dangerous support roles during war, but “women in the infantry — women in combat on purpose — is another story.” He adds, “women cannot physically meet the same standards as men.”
He said, “Dads push us to take risks. Moms put the training wheels on our bikes. We need moms. But not in the military, especially in combat units.”
Pete Hegseth has tried to convince members of the Senate Armed Services Committee he should be the next secretary of defense.
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President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, has been outspoken about his opinion that women shouldn't serve in combat roles.
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His later comments do not reassure me of a changed man.
I've got some anecdotal pseudo data to share, and an opinion.
The definition of a "combat role" is blurry and is getting fuzzier and fuzzier over time.
Infantry?
Artillery?
Pilots?
Drone pilots?
There are women serving in all of those roles.
I was the medical officer for a Marine infantry battalion from 2003 - 2006. Deployed twice with them, to Iraq and Afghanistan. In those days Marine infantry were Victor units - 100% male. (Two perks for me were that pelvic exams and pregnancy were never on the sick call menu.
🙂) We were deployed to areas that also had Army and ANG units, which were mixed gender.
Equally effective? No.
Lots of confounders. The national guard units couldnt be expected to be on the same level as a an active Marine battalion. Army reserve - similar issues.
Maybe the right question was, were the mixed gender units effective
enough? And the answer there was probably yes.
At least, for the tasks they were assigned, in a counterinsurgency conflict. I'll just say they didn't take part when our Marines went door to door clearing Al Qaim. I'm not going to malign their service but I don't think those units would've done well with that task, or in some future near peer or high intensity conflict. Or one less mechanized, where all gear must be carried.
I don't disagree with Hegseth - the notion that women do the infantry job as well as men just isn't true. The bell curve of physical attributes for men and women overlap to some degree. I saw chubby poorly conditioned male Marines and fit female Marines. But until we have robot exoskeleton power armor and infantry are "piloting" instead of "walking" even the fittest women are significantly disadvantaged and shouldn't be in those roles.
Hudson: Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
Vasquez: No, have you?
Great scene, but it's a movie.
I'll also add that as the medical officer I dealt with everything health related. Psychiatric issues do exist in the military. A small number of people with cluster B personality disorders create massively outsized disruptions to a unit.
My first deployment, our CO brought along a number of people we recommended be left behind for mental health reasons. He declined for reasons I disagreed with and we had significant disruptive issues with some of those people. My second deployment, I rec'd to him that 19 people (out of about 1000) be left behind for mental health reasons. Bitten once, this time he agreed and we had very few problems. Until one was sent to us as a combat replacement, and promptly got in a fight with another Marine, and then later popped off a few rounds at one of our convoys.
I only mention this to point out that the rate of serious, job-impacting mental illness in that unit was 1-2% and even that low rate was extremely disruptive.
Enlisted military service is not a perfect demographic slice of US. The lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder are heavily overrepresented, and they bring their previous lives with them to the job. There's more abuse and neglect in their past. I'm just going to express my opinion and limited experience and say that I think women who join and
choose infantry are an extra high risk group. They are a tiny minority and that also creates its own set of issues.
Starship Troopers and its mixed gender infantry and mixed gender showers make an entertaining movie.
Great TED Talk from the depths of the worst years of the Iraq war:
As much as I make fun of the guys who post YouTube videos in these discussion, and you know who you are
🙂, this one is worth watching.
"I like them young, male, unmarried, and slightly pissed off."
Jessica Lynch didn't join to shoot back.