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buddababa said:
your analysis is completely wrong. I have studied comparative religions, your take is 1000% wrong. You're speaking from a personal bias. If you take any religious text, the Talmud is the most violent text, this has been verified by gronk and other religious historians
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Did you happen to study comparative religions at Kabul University?
 
aneftp said:
More republicans are obese than democrat voters.

Doesn’t change the mental health aspect that dietdocmd pointed out.

Me personally. I think u should focus less on mental health and more on obesity.

Kinda of ironic right?
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I’m still curious about the interpretation of those mental health graphs.

Some might consider obesity a mental illness. It could certainly qualify as an addiction.
 
buddababa said:
why are you so racist? Do you hate your international colleagues, fellow physicians, who are non white, non christian?
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Ya that’s not racism. I have no idea what your race is nor do I care. Your views, particularly toward Judaism seem fairly extreme. You claim to have studied religions, but stating the Talmud is the most violent religious text is certainly a fringe view point.
 
Maybe someone has mentioned it and I missed it, but I have a different opinion about the mental illness stats. Mental illness has been rewarded on social media and is now a way to gain sympathy and likes as young people explain their struggles and failures. Everyone seems to want a label for their angsty feelings so that they can show off their struggles. Older generations were taught to suppress any outward signs of mental struggles such as anxiety or depression (not healthy either). They were taught to put their head down and move forward and show no signs of weakness. The younger generations seem to have done a complete 180 degree turn and have a need to have an ailment of some sort so that they can feel more "normal," because everyone has their struggles. The good vibes that people send their way on social media when they announce their struggles becomes almost an addiction that they become dependent upon. It becomes a learned helplessness that is celebrated. It also allows them to justify actions they do because they have an illness and their actions are just an outward manifestation of that illness. I have seen it so often in people 30 and under and I think it is crippling a lot of those who fall victim to it.
I know someone close who self-identifies as autistic. I have known them their entire lives and they are definitely not autistic. But their social media presence is all about their autism. This person also is able to shed any responsibility for their own hurtful actions by chalking it up to being caused by their disease process. It feels very disingenuous and is an insult to the people who actually suffer from autism. But this person doesn't see that and the energy and endorphins they get from the sympathy on social media drives them to carry on the charade. It is tough to watch.
So, it is totally believable to me that 60% of liberal women in their 20's would wear the badge of mental illness. It seems that they have to have this diagnosis in order to truly feel like they are part of the group and that they are all fighting the same struggles. Then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. You act that way long enough, it will become who you are.
I don't want to seem so jaded, but it is very prevalent and hard to watch. My hope is that maturity will eventually kick in and they will figure it out. But, I have a nephew that has not grown out of it and he just turned 40.
 
aneftp said:
Harvard does not need to disclose its hiring process or admissions process. Harvard is a private institution.

But if Harvard wants to get federal funding it has to play by the govt rules. Yes or no?

Unless Harvard is hiding how it does hiring against government rules?

Seems to me the bully Harvard just wants to play by its own rules. And it has ever right.

Just don’t take government money.

That’s the easiest way to solve this issue.

Both sides can call it a day and move on
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I'm not arguing literally any of that.

What I'm arguing is when you said this:

aneftp said:
Just as Harvard is saying DEI and affirmative action is better for society. (And Harvard was proven wrong by the united state Supreme Court in 2023) getting called out on it and they are still trying to circumvent it).
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SCOTUS doesn't determine what is better for society, it determines what is and isn't allowed under the US Constitution.
 
Chrish said:
You don’t need to be a Democrat to be repulsed by pretty much everything that is going on right now.
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Well so far it's been a failure on all fronts

Tariffs? No signed trade deals. Just a random stop/start/stop tariffs plan
-domestic companies can't predict so most are holding off on business investments
-foreign companies will start to develop non US based supply chains to reduce risk

Immigration?
Yay, deporting our main cheap labor force that primarily handles jobs that most Americans can't/won't do. So this will just set up a labor shortage with subsequent increase in business costs and consumer costs. Along with a decrease in GDP
-brain drain. Highly educated immigrants from other countries will be drawn back/forced back to their home countries instead of establishing here

Tax bill proposal?
Adds trillions to the debt with benefits primarily for the upper quartile of incomes.

DOGE?
Produced a small fraction of the promoted savings. Most of which were simply due to massive and random staffing cuts. No legitimate or logical cost cuts. Damage will takes years to manifest

Further polarization of the US political landscape

Russia and Gaza wars still going on

I miss anything?
 
Chrish said:
You don’t need to be a Democrat to be repulsed by pretty much everything that is going on right now.
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Agree. People have become tribal.

I am republican that did NOT vote for Trump all 3 times because I think the guy is a terrible example of a human being.
 
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GravelRider said:
I’m still curious about the interpretation of those mental health graphs.

Some might consider obesity a mental illness. It could certainly qualify as an addiction.
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This is crazy talk I’m speaking off. The mental health crap. Everything can be made into a mental health excuse.

We have to grow up as a country. Our kids are being raised like pansies. Always looking for the next excuse. Like Obama approving fibromyalgia for social security disability in 2011. Ridiculous.

Hey my back hurts from playing tennis hard singles for 2 hrs and I’m 51 yo. Do I claim back pain for disability now? Back pain is one of the most common forms of social security disability filing. And it’s affecting my mental health to roll out of bed at 530am to get ready for work most days. I guess if I’m working for the VA/feds I can use sick days for my back pain

VA Hopeful Dr said:
I'm not arguing literally any of that.

What I'm arguing is when you said this:


SCOTUS doesn't determine what is better for society, it determines what is and isn't allowed under the US Constitution.
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Well all the abortion supporters cried when they said it was their right to have an abortion. They claimed the previous supreme court decisions the last 50 years made it their right. That it was societies right. It never was. It was decision made by the courts. And no federal law on abortion ever existed.

It was never the law. Just precedent being passed down the last 50 years. Just like our npo guidelines are so outdated (tested on 22 year old male med students BMI less than 25 in the 1960s) but we keep going by the same guidelines decade after decade.

So what’s it’s going to be. Roe being better for society? Or not?

And I support abortion. So people are bias with their own version of what they believe in when Supreme Court decisions are handed down
 
UscGhost said:
Well so far it's been a failure on all fronts

Tariffs? No signed trade deals. Just a random stop/start/stop tariffs plan
-domestic companies can't predict so most are holding off on business investments
-foreign companies will start to develop non US based supply chains to reduce risk

Immigration?
Yay, deporting our main cheap labor force that primarily handles jobs that most Americans can't/won't do. So this will just set up a labor shortage with subsequent increase in business costs and consumer costs. Along with a decrease in GDP
-brain drain. Highly educated immigrants from other countries will be drawn back/forced back to their home countries instead of establishing here

Tax bill proposal?
Adds trillions to the debt with benefits primarily for the upper quartile of incomes.

DOGE?
Produced a small fraction of the promoted savings. Most of which were simply due to massive and random staffing cuts. No legitimate or logical cost cuts. Damage will takes years to manifest

Further polarization of the US political landscape

Russia and Gaza wars still going on

I miss anything?
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Yeah whether you are a socialist, libertarian, moderate or even a conservative, this administration should absolutely terrify you.

Currently Republican Party isn’t even “conservative”. It’s only a ceremonial title from the past at this point. They have absolutely nothing in common with traditional conservative values.
 
Splenda88 said:
What is happening with the "Big Beautiful Bill"?
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It’ll probably get through. Spineless Republican senators (who’re really no different than spineless democratic senators) want to appease Trump. Sounds like the big dumb bill which will be awful for America was the final straw for Musk. The rhetoric between Musk and Trump is heating up (to really no ones surprise considering the egos involved).
 
Splenda88 said:
Agree. People have become tribal.

I am republican that did NOT vote for Trump all 3 times because I think the guy is a terrible example of a human being.
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You support the current republican platform but not Trump? They are the same thing now.... If you voted R for anyone else on the ticket they are doing exactly what Trump wants so you functionally are supporting him. If you didn't vote R for anyone else on the ticket are you really a Republican or more of an independent?
 
Southpaw said:
www.foxbusiness.com

National Debt Tracker: American taxpayers (you) are now on the hook for $36,215,207,426,690.65 as of 6/4/25

The U.S. national debt is climbing at a rapid pace, on track to double over the next three decades amid a rush of spending by President Biden and Congress.
www.foxbusiness.com www.foxbusiness.com

kinda surprised to see this on the front page of state media considering trumps astoundingly stupid bill.
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Because no one wants to touch the real spending problem
1. Medicare spending up to 1.4 trillion a year.
2. Defense spending is almost the same 1 trillion when u include defense dept, homeland security

That’s 40% of the entire USA budget.
 
aneftp said:
This is crazy talk I’m speaking off. The mental health crap. Everything can be made into a mental health excuse.

We have to grow up as a country. Our kids are being raised like pansies. Always looking for the next excuse. Like Obama approving fibromyalgia for social security disability in 2011. Ridiculous.

Hey my back hurts from playing tennis hard singles for 2 hrs and I’m 51 yo. Do I claim back pain for disability now? Back pain is one of the most common forms of social security disability filing. And it’s affecting my mental health to roll out of bed at 530am to get ready for work most days. I guess if I’m working for the VA/feds I can use sick days for my back pain


Well all the abortion supporters cried when they said it was their right to have an abortion. They claimed the previous supreme court decisions the last 50 years made it their right. That it was societies right. It never was. It was decision made by the courts. And no federal law on abortion ever existed.

It was never the law. Just precedent being passed down the last 50 years. Just like our npo guidelines are so outdated (tested on 22 year old male med students BMI less than 25 in the 1960s) but we keep going by the same guidelines decade after decade.

So what’s it’s going to be. Roe being better for society? Or not?

And I support abortion. So people are bias with their own version of what they believe in when Supreme Court decisions are handed down
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I’m not disagreeing with you. I think there is a good portion of medical ailments that we “treat” that are fake. I was an internist. I can give you a list of fake ailments. I think we do elective procedures for fake ailments. I won’t get into the details because it’s controversial. I’ve said you can go to any OR board and remove 50% of the elective procedures because they are more useless than a sham procedure or placebo. The medical establishment is partially to blame. We enable this behavior. Your back hurts? How about stop eating cookies, do some core exercises, and go for walks? Nah, we’ll just do injections until it’s time for spine surgery.
 
Gern Blansten said:
Maybe someone has mentioned it and I missed it, but I have a different opinion about the mental illness stats. Mental illness has been rewarded on social media and is now a way to gain sympathy and likes as young people explain their struggles and failures. Everyone seems to want a label for their angsty feelings so that they can show off their struggles. Older generations were taught to suppress any outward signs of mental struggles such as anxiety or depression (not healthy either). They were taught to put their head down and move forward and show no signs of weakness. The younger generations seem to have done a complete 180 degree turn and have a need to have an ailment of some sort so that they can feel more "normal," because everyone has their struggles. The good vibes that people send their way on social media when they announce their struggles becomes almost an addiction that they become dependent upon. It becomes a learned helplessness that is celebrated. It also allows them to justify actions they do because they have an illness and their actions are just an outward manifestation of that illness. I have seen it so often in people 30 and under and I think it is crippling a lot of those who fall victim to it.
I know someone close who self-identifies as autistic. I have known them their entire lives and they are definitely not autistic. But their social media presence is all about their autism. This person also is able to shed any responsibility for their own hurtful actions by chalking it up to being caused by their disease process. It feels very disingenuous and is an insult to the people who actually suffer from autism. But this person doesn't see that and the energy and endorphins they get from the sympathy on social media drives them to carry on the charade. It is tough to watch.
So, it is totally believable to me that 60% of liberal women in their 20's would wear the badge of mental illness. It seems that they have to have this diagnosis in order to truly feel like they are part of the group and that they are all fighting the same struggles. Then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. You act that way long enough, it will become who you are.
I don't want to seem so jaded, but it is very prevalent and hard to watch. My hope is that maturity will eventually kick in and they will figure it out. But, I have a nephew that has not grown out of it and he just turned 40.
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It’s a proven fact that just being on a social media platform causes a reduction in IQ by anywhere from 20-40%.
 
chessknt said:
You support the current republican platform but not Trump? They are the same thing now.... If you voted R for anyone else on the ticket they are doing exactly what Trump wants so you functionally are supporting him. If you didn't vote R for anyone else on the ticket are you really a Republican or more of an independent?
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I support them on social issues but not on fiscal ones. I would prefer that they would decrease spending but it does not seem like either want to do that.
 
aneftp said:
Because no one wants to touch the real spending problem
1. Medicare spending up to 1.4 trillion a year.
2. Defense spending is almost the same 1 trillion when u include defense dept, homeland security

That’s 40% of the entire USA budget.
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Is that number real? Cause that means the US is spending 42000 a year per citizen (roughly) on medicare alone. And our medical services are actually just not that great.
 
MirrorTodd said:
Is that number real? Cause that means the US is spending 42000 a year per citizen (roughly) on medicare alone. And our medical services are actually just not that great.
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The number is real. I remember seeing that 60%+ of that money is spent in the last 3 months of grandma/grandpa's life (aka... do everything for 80+ y/o patient with advanced dementia, vented and on 3 pressors).

I think every hospital should have a committee made up of 3-5 physicians to decide when to pull the plug on grandma.

We had a frequent flyer, drug addict, non compliant patient that was in a persistent vegetative state that the family kept on a vent for over a year in our hospital.
 
Splenda88 said:
The number is real. I remember seeing that 60%+ of that money is spent in the last 3 months of grandma/grandpa's life (aka... do everything for 80+ y/o patient with advanced dementia, vented and on 3 pressors).

I think every hospital should have a committee made up of 3-5 physicians to decide when to pull the plug on grandma.

We had a frequent flyer, drug addict, non compliant patient that was in a persistent vegetative state that the family kept on a vent for over a year in our hospital.
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Oh man, that’ll go over well. You must have missed the Sarah Palin “Death Panel” stuff. They tried to include reimbursement for end-of-life care counseling and advanced directive discussion in the ACA and Sarah Palin turned it into a politically charged circus. Every time incentives for end-of-life care discussions get proposed in federal legislation, it never survives until the final bill. It never will.
 
GravelRider said:
Oh man, that’ll go over well. You must have missed the Sarah Palin “Death Panel” stuff. They tried to include reimbursement for end-of-life care counseling and advanced directive discussion in the ACA and Sarah Palin turned it into a politically charged circus. Every time incentives for end-of-life care discussions get proposed in federal legislation, it never survives until the final bill. It never will.
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I remember that. We gonna continue hemorrhaging money in healthcare until there is some kind of cultural shift.
 
MirrorTodd said:
Is that number real? Cause that means the US is spending 42000 a year per citizen (roughly) on medicare alone. And our medical services are actually just not that great.
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1.2 trillion in Medicare alone. Doesn’t include the other side medical programs like chip, Indian Healthcare etc.

These numbers are insane.

USAspending.gov

www.usaspending.gov www.usaspending.gov

I keep telling people. Defense and Medicare spending is the key to controlling the budget. No one listens. All politicians are afraid to cut them.

And people like to spin it off as “well the growth of Medicare is slowing”. That ain’t do jack until we get the spending under control

How about actually cut the spending.
 
lol unsurprisingly we already knew this.

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rowsdower88 said:
Say we take all of this as true, that Islam as practiced in various settings is a motivating factor for violence.

What policy changes would you make today if you could? Muslim travel bans? What do you want to change?
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Fair questions. I'm against travel bans and am not advocating for some widespread singled out anti-Muslim attitude. Rather, I'm just seeking to change the way we view and discuss the issue of Islamists. Being bigoted or racist towards groups or people from a country isn't ok, but ideas are fair game. Islam isn't an exception that is above criticism, and people should be able to point out the unique threat it poses compared to other religions in the world today without being labeled as Islamophobes. I want to encourage the moderate Muslim reformers who work within the religion to advocate against the extremists. I also think this would lead to a more beneficial and nuanced discussion of Middle East foreign policy.

buddababa said:
your analysis is completely wrong. I have studied comparative religions, your take is 1000% wrong. You're speaking from a personal bias. If you take any religious text, the Talmud is the most violent text, this has been verified by gronk and other religious historians
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I wasn't even sure this was serious until I saw your follow up comments. The only Gronk I know of played football. Who are these religious historians you're citing and what do they mean by "most violent text"? Most verses? Most severe violence? As others have pointed out, that's a fringe view that you're pretending is obvious.

And again, I'm atheist and think all religions are ludicrous, so I'm not biased. I'm just pointing out the facts that in our current day world, Islam has a unique problem with trying to spread the religion by military conquest.
 
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It seems like the "Big Beautiful Bill" might be in trouble.

The Northeast republicans don't want the senate to touch the 40k SALT.

www.yahoo.com

House Republicans warn Senate not to touch SALT deal

Moderate House Republicans from high-tax blue states are warning senators that they will not give the “big, beautiful bill” a final stamp of approval if the Senate changes their proposal for the state and local tax (SALT) deduction cap. The shot across the Capitol came shortly after Senate...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
Southpaw said:
It’ll probably get through. Spineless Republican senators (who’re really no different than spineless democratic senators) want to appease Trump. Sounds like the big dumb bill which will be awful for America was the final straw for Musk. The rhetoric between Musk and Trump is heating up (to really no ones surprise considering the egos involved).
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Musk is a turd but he isn't stupid or naive. He knew what Trump was from the start, same as all the reluctant Trump voters here. They all thought their deal with the devil would get them get the policies they wanted.

The only difference is that Musk has more money invested in the outcome, so his buyer's remorse is amplified.

Don't forget that Musk knew (and was cool with) Trump raping underage girls with his pal Epstein, until they ran into some policy disagreements. He's not a good guy here either.
 
pgg said:
Musk is a turd but he isn't stupid or naive. He knew what Trump was from the start, same as all the reluctant Trump voters here. They all thought their deal with the devil would get them get the policies they wanted.

The only difference is that Musk has more money invested in the outcome, so his buyer's remorse is amplified.

Don't forget that Musk knew (and was cool with) Trump raping underage girls with his pal Epstein, until they ran into some policy disagreements. He's not a good guy here either.
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That is an outlandish accusation.
 
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