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[GravelRider]

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The squad were for the last 5 years some of the most recognizable names in the democratic caucus.

They’ve sucked all the oxygen out of the room for years now. They drive the dumb movements in the Democratic Party.

Do you think trans rights and the Buy Large Mansions movement became presidential talking points for Joe Biden because of Chuck Schumer? Come on

The dumb movements are driven by MSM.
How many times do I have to say it before it sinks in? Outrage drives engagement, clicks, and ad revenue.

 

[rowsdower88]

The squad were for the last 5 years some of the most recognizable names in the democratic caucus.

They’ve sucked all the oxygen out of the room for years now. They drive the dumb movements in the Democratic Party.

Do you think trans rights and the Buy Large Mansions movement became presidential talking points for Joe Biden because of Chuck Schumer? Come on

This illustrates a larger problem.

The people with actual power in the Democratic Party, don't get credit for the policy positions they take.

It's another reason why I think our country needs an explicitly Democratic promoting media ecosystem that operates similar to Fox, Newsmax, etc...

Most Dem politicians don't have strong opinions on Trans rights besides the banal. Most Dem politicians don't have strong opinions on BLM besides the banal.

The elected Dems with power don't control the activists that "suck the oxygen" (sucking the oxygen is a MAGA goal mind you). They only even acknowledge them when forced to. I think AOC is hot, has gotten less crazy over time, and maybe in the future can leverage her popularity into useful power. But we are pretty far from that now.

 

[rowsdower88]

Seems like she’s 4th in 2028 primary polling with around 10%. Maybe that’s nobody but I think it’s somebody.

2028 Democratic Primary Polling Average — Race to the WH

Interactive polling average tracking the latest polls for the 2028 Democratic Primary. Includes a polling map showing the leader in each state.

www.racetothewh.com

If she gets close to the ticket, gets a cabinet position, or gets a chairman position on a committee, I'll change my mind.

No one disputes she is popular. I dispute that she has "taken over".

 

[CopaceticOne]

The dumb movements are driven by MSM media companies.
How many times do I have to say it before it sinks in? Outrage drives engagement, clicks, and ad revenue.

Fixed that for ya. But completely agree.

I’ve seen online headlines by media outlets change, but the text of the article is 100% the same. Probably because there wasn’t enough traffic to the story.

 

[Account1]

The dumb movements are driven by MSM.
How many times do I have to say it before it sinks in? Outrage drives engagement, clicks, and ad revenue.

Sounds like they need a better media strategy then? If no one cares about trans rights, why do court cases about it and restricting books about transgender people in school libraries cause such uproar?

Heck that stuff happened here. I remember comparisons to nazi germany on this forum over “book bans” (bans of books that were still available for purchase on Amazon and in major book stores)

 

[rowsdower88]

Sounds like they need a better media strategy then? If no one cares about trans rights, why do court cases about it and restricting books about transgender people in school libraries cause such uproar?

Yes! They need their own media ecosystem.

A place where Dem views/policies/grievances are generated by influencers, picked up by commentators/pundits and subsequently amplified by MSM. If some of the views get too extreme, the MSM would work to sanitize them.

The system needs to be self-reinforcing as well. Deviation from the party message can be tolerated, to a point. But there should be no question about which candidates are ultimately voted for.

The closest that exists to what I'm talking about today are the Pod Save America guys. The other leftist commentators that do exist, don't actually support the Democratic party (for the most part).

Comparing them to the Daily Wire, Crowder, Fox, Newsmax, Hodge Twins, Tucker, Hannity, Candace, Brett Cooper, etc... no contest.

 

[UscGhost]

10% is something. I am surprised Buttigieg and Newsome arent higher.

But 10% is nowhere close to "taking over" or "capturing" the democratic party

Shes young, loud and energetic. So that will capture some votes

 

[Account1]

Yes! They need their own media ecosystem.

A place where Dem views/policies/grievances are generated by influencers, picked up by commentators/pundits and subsequently amplified by MSM. If some of the views get too extreme, the MSM would work to sanitize them.

The system needs to be self-reinforcing as well. Deviation from the party message can be tolerated, to a point. But there should be no question about which candidates are ultimately voted for.

The closest that exists to what I'm talking about today are the Pod Save America guys. The other leftist commentators that do exist, don't actually support the Democratic party (for the most part).

Comparing them to the Daily Wire, Crowder, Fox, Newsmax, Hodge Twins, Tucker, Hannity, Candace, Brett Cooper, etc... no contest.

I wonder if that can exist in the same way though. The chief podcast demo is the 18-45 crowd and I don’t know that very many women in that group are apt to listen to a ton of political podcasts.

People stick to the mainstream stuff like the NYT podcasts but for influencers the left leaning ones are basically all young attractive women who talk fashion and relationships rather than political issues, outside of abortion that is.

Whereas right leaning influencers touch on a huge array of issues that affect young men who are their prime audience. It’s masculinity, relationships, making money in the economy, economic opportunity for men vs women, guns, DEI, freedom, health around vaccines or food, dumb conspiracies of course,etc

 

[rowsdower88]

I wonder if that can exist in the same way though. The chief podcast demo is the 18-45 crowd and I don’t know that very many women in that group are apt to listen to a ton of political podcasts.

People stick to the mainstream stuff like the NYT podcasts but for influencers the left leaning ones are basically all young attractive women who talk fashion and relationships rather than political issues, outside of abortion that is.

Whereas right leaning influencers touch on a huge array of issues that affect young men who are their prime audience. It’s masculinity, relationships, making money in the economy, guns, DEI, freedom, health around vaccines or food, etc

I want to believe "if you build it, they will come", but I understand your skepticism.

There's also nothing stopping Democratic backing influencers from talking about relationships, money, economy etc... either. Just needs to grow.

 

[GravelRider]

Sounds like they need a better media strategy then? If no one cares about trans rights, why do court cases about it and restricting books about transgender people in school libraries cause such uproar?

Heck that stuff happened here. I remember comparisons to nazi germany on this forum over “book bans” (bans of books that were still available for purchase on Amazon and in major book stores)

Uproar or “media” attention? What’s the difference? 3 people could be protesting something and you turn on the MSM and they make it seem like it’s millions of people rioting.

I have said it a million freaking times. The MSM or social media or media whatever is a tool of the rich elite and powerful to keep us distracted from real issues that affect the majority of people. Articles discussing the problems of housing affordability, for example, and how we can use government to create policies that address these issues will NEVER generate the kinds of outrage and engagement that divisive issues like transgender stuff or freakin’ Israel will.

 

[Account1]

I want to believe "if you build it, they will come", but I understand your skepticism.

There's also nothing stopping Democratic backing influencers from talking about relationships, money, economy etc... either. Just needs to grow.

There is something though, the prime demographic for those podcasters doesn’t respond well to discussions of those things. The same may be true of general democratic talking points, to the point where most people aren’t even sure what they are anymore.

 

[Account1]

Uproar or “media” attention? What’s the difference? 3 people could be protesting something and you turn on the MSM and they make it seem like it’s millions of people rioting.

I have said it a million freaking times. The MSM or social media or media whatever is a tool of the rich elite and powerful to keep us distracted from real issues that affect the majority of people. Articles discussing the problems of housing affordability, for example, and how we can use government to create policies that address these issues will NEVER generate the kinds of outrage and engagement that divisive issues like transgender stuff or freakin’ Israel will.

There was a poll that listed what Americans thought were the top priorities for each party and then for themselves

Democrats:
1. Abortion
2. LBGTQ policy
3. Climate change
4. State of democracy
5. Healthcare

Republicans:
1. Immigration
2. The economy
3. Taxes
4. Guns
5. Abortion

Voters:
1. The economy
2. Healthcare
3. Immigration
4. Taxes
5. Crime

The disconnect there explains election results and dissatisfaction with the parties in my view

 

[DocMcCoy]

Yeah man, this thread was this close 👌 to being an echo chamber. RIP Gassman.

Him, among others. I mean that’s a great example. Banning the people you disagree with is a great way to create an echo chamber.

We'll see how the gerrymandering in TX, CA, and elsewhere turns out. Bluer states, arguably, have more guardrails in place to prevent blatant partisan gerrymandering so the end result might be a significant swing in Republicans favor despite the voters' wishes. Remains to be seen.

Mid-cycle gerrymandering is "new and creative" and an explicit Trump backed policy.

Gerrymandering, Russian influenced attempt to ban mail in voting, law and order poll watching, and refusal to certify the election, are all thing that have been proposed to likely influence the election by your compadres just this week.

As far as the "plan" goes. I like what I've been seeing out of Newsom's office lately. Standing up to Trump and "Hot Wheels" Abbot, even in a joking manner, is good. Not sure what kind of plan you're expecting though. There are various policies being advocated at different levels because there are different interests across the country. Mamdami in NYC is advocating for a very different set of policies than the Abundance Agenda we're seeing in the CA legislature.

I remember when Rubio tried to play the tough guy and Trump proverbially stole his lunch money. Newsom looks like a politician and talks like a politician, but his entire national platform hinges on an anti Trump agenda. He will get eaten alive as the guy who shts on the homeless and dined out during Covid when he’s on the national stage. And he has nothing else to offer on issues that matter to voters.

 

[rowsdower88]

Him, among others. I mean that’s a great example. Banning the people you disagree with is a great way to create an echo chamber.

SDN mods stiffling the diversity of thought on whether black people are mentally genetically inferior. An echo chamber has been created.

Gerrymandering, Russian influenced attempt to ban mail in voting, law and order poll watching, and refusal to certify the election, are all thing that have been proposed to likely influence the election by your compadres just this week.

Yeah! Those things ARE happening +/-. Mid-cycle gerrymandering WAS initiated/pushed by Trump in Texas with Dems scrambling to respond to avoid a blowout. Your "law and order poll watching" might be intimidation to others. Trump is literally talking about mail in voting after he had a conversation with Putin, in which he says Putin told him mail in voting is bad.

I remember when Rubio tried to play the tough guy and Trump proverbially stole his lunch money. Newsom looks like a politician and talks like a politician, but his entire national platform hinges on an anti Trump agenda. He will get eaten alive as the guy who shts on the homeless and dined out during Covid when he’s on the national stage. And he has nothing else to offer on issues that matter to voters.

Your right wing media diet is showing. I've already linked you specifically the laws that the CA legislature is passing to reduce red tape and (hopefully) aggressively increase building in the state (homes and rail). I wish they were getting more headlines. You're bringing up 4-5 year old news stories at this point about the guy. Maybe he won't be the nominee 3 years from now, I dunno. He's the man of the moment though.

 

[rowsdower88]

Really can't disrespect your handler that way /s.

 

[GravelRider]

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Really can't disrespect your handler that way /s.

Jeffrey Epstein was actually a Russian asset. Putin didn’t know which of the rich and powerful would eventually ascend into power, but there was a good chance someone would. What better way to control the U.S. government than to have evidence of pedophilia and rape of the leader.

Did you notice how much more aggressive Russia has gotten in Ukraine since Trump took office? Coincidence? I don’t think so.

 

[Account1]

SDN mods stiffling the diversity of thought on whether black people are mentally genetically inferior. An echo chamber has been created.



Yeah! Those things ARE happening +/-. Mid-cycle gerrymandering WAS initiated/pushed by Trump in Texas with Dems scrambling to respond to avoid a blowout. Your "law and order poll watching" might be intimidation to others. Trump is literally talking about mail in voting after he had a conversation with Putin, in which he says Putin told him mail in voting is bad.



Your right wing media diet is showing. I've already linked you specifically the laws that the CA legislature is passing to reduce red tape and (hopefully) aggressively increase building in the state (homes and rail). I wish they were getting more headlines. You're bringing up 4-5 year old news stories at this point about the guy. Maybe he won't be the nominee 3 years from now, I dunno. He's the man of the moment though.

If Newsom can get housing built quickly in California it will certainly be impressive and attract a lot of voters from the moderates to him. He'll face an uphill battle to do so and prove his effectiveness. I've said here before I'll always view him through the lens of the French Laundry while his constituents had their businesses taken away from them.

 

[rowsdower88]

I've said here before I'll always view him through the lens of the French Laundry while his constituents had their businesses taken away from them.

You and @DocMcCoy might not be his target audience if this bothers you (4+ years later) more than any one of the 10 things Trump has done this month that are worse than eating out during covid -shrug-. It's not like he's funnelling billions to himself through memecoin grifts for Presidential attention. I don't know what Newsom's stance is on tariffs but I bet it is a more targeted approach than the status quo (that was an issue you previously mentioned caring about).

He is the man of the moment, he might not be the man 3yrs from now after a Democratic primary.

 

[Account1]

You and @DocMcCoy might not be his target audience if this bothers you (4+ years later) more than any one of the 10 things Trump has done this month that are worse than eating out during covid -shrug-. It's not like he's funnelling billions to himself through memecoin grifts for Presidential attention. I don't know what Newsom's stance is on tariffs but I bet it is a more targeted approach than the status quo (that was an issue you previously mentioned caring about).

He is the man of the moment, he might not be the man 3yrs from now after a Democratic primary.

COVID rhetoric has stuck in my mind as some of the most hypocritical political statements made in my lifetime.

Democrats have never admitted any mistakes during Covid or examined their states’ conduct to my knowledge. To me this means they think they acted perfectly rationally and with perfect accuracy when they weren’t hamstrung from doing so by Trump.

If someone is gonna claim (implied by their actions) to be perfect and righteous, and get an entire half of the country to personally berate anyone who disagreed (i was routinely asked by friends and strangers why I wasn’t masking while outside), then they’ll feel that politically when they reveal by their actions that they thought it was all BS and the rules didn’t apply to them because reasons.

Trump could drive a truck through the Whitehouse entrance while blasting Seven Nation Army and flying the Union Jack and I’d still vote for any republican over newsom.

 

[UscGhost]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/florida-now-2nd-most-financially-164500255.html

I guess Florida and Texas aren't so great after all

 

[rowsdower88]

COVID rhetoric has stuck in my mind as some of the most hypocritical political statements made in my lifetime.

Democrats have never admitted any mistakes during Covid or examined their states’ conduct to my knowledge. To me this means they think they acted perfectly rationally and with perfect accuracy when they weren’t hamstrung from doing so by Trump.

If someone is gonna claim (implied by their actions) to be perfect and righteous, and get an entire half of the country to personally berate anyone who disagreed (i was routinely asked by friends and strangers why I wasn’t masking while outside), then they’ll feel that politically when they reveal by their actions that they thought it was all BS and the rules didn’t apply to them because reasons.

Trump could drive a truck through the Whitehouse entrance while blasting Seven Nation Army and flying the Union Jack and I’d still vote for any republican over newsom.

Covid broke a lot of people.

 

[pgg]

Him, among others. I mean that’s a great example. Banning the people you disagree with is a great way to create an echo chamber.

It never ceases to amaze me how anyone could possibly read this forum for any length of time and think the moderating is heavyhanded. I dunno, maybe it's the only internet forum they read.

You're really concerned about bans here? We gave Gass-blacks-are-genetically-inferior-manMD far, far more rope than he deserved, all in the name of keeping the discussion as open and free as possible. He just couldn't stop looping it around his neck. At some point you've just got to let that kind of autoerotic asphyxiation run its course.

Echo chamber? That's an incredibly bizarre take.

 

[GravelRider]

COVID rhetoric has stuck in my mind as some of the most hypocritical political statements made in my lifetime.

More or less hypocritical than JD Vance saying that we need to release the Epstein files? Just wondering…

Democrats have never admitted any mistakes during Covid or examined their states’ conduct to my knowledge. To me this means they think they acted perfectly rationally and with perfect accuracy when they weren’t hamstrung from doing so by Trump.

If someone is gonna claim (implied by their actions) to be perfect and righteous, and get an entire half of the country to personally berate anyone who disagreed (i was routinely asked by friends and strangers why I wasn’t masking while outside), then they’ll feel that politically when they reveal by their actions that they thought it was all BS and the rules didn’t apply to them because reasons.

Trump could drive a truck through the Whitehouse entrance while blasting Seven Nation Army and flying the Union Jack and I’d still vote for any republican over newsom.

Seven Nation Army is a bad song. I don’t care how unpopular that opinion is.

You don’t really need to tell us that you would vote for any Republican over [insert Democrat name here]. You guys voted a known pedophile rapist into office. Emphasizing that point with a bad song is unnecessary.

 

[Account1]

More or less hypocritical than JD Vance saying that we need to release the Epstein files? Just wondering…




Seven Nation Army is a bad song. I don’t care how unpopular that opinion is.

You don’t really need to tell us that you would vote for any Republican over [insert Democrat name here]. You guys voted a known pedophile rapist into office. Emphasizing that point with a bad song is unnecessary.

On the contrary, voted for Biden 2020. I’m a gettable voter for either party if they do the things I like.

I wouldn’t just vote for any republican over any democrat either. There’s many cases in which I would abstain or vote against republicans. For example Josh Shapiro vs JD Vance id heavily consider those two. MTG or Lauren Boebert vs almost any democrat I’d go for a democrat, except Gavin newsom or the Islamist squad members.

 

[rowsdower88]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5459339-gavin-newsom-dana-perino-press-strategy/

Lmao, this stuff is great.

 

[Splenda88]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5459339-gavin-newsom-dana-perino-press-strategy/

Lmao, this stuff is great.

This why I said Trump idiocy is baked in.

Imagine a Trump supporter on FOX NEWS criticizing someone for posting ridiculous things on X (formerly known as Twitter).

 

[Chrish]

The best mathematician of our time is getting his funding cut. We’re setting an amazing example for the next generation…

I’m an award-winning mathematician. Trump just cut my funding.

The “Mozart of Math” tried to stay out of politics. Then it came for his research.

newsletter.ofthebrave.org

 

[DocMcCoy]

It never ceases to amaze me how anyone could possibly read this forum for any length of time and think the moderating is heavyhanded. I dunno, maybe it's the only internet forum they read.

You're really concerned about bans here? We gave Gass-blacks-are-genetically-inferior-manMD far, far more rope than he deserved, all in the name of keeping the discussion as open and free as possible. He just couldn't stop looping it around his neck. At some point you've just got to let that kind of autoerotic asphyxiation run its course.

Echo chamber? That's an incredibly bizarre take.

Bro, review your last couple posts here. Nothing but expletive filled anti-Trump rage bait.

Said it before and I’ll say it again, some people get a heck of a lot more rope than others. My OPINION is it is one sided.

 

[DocMcCoy]

Yeah! Those things ARE happening +/-. Mid-cycle gerrymandering WAS initiated/pushed by Trump in Texas with Dems scrambling to respond to avoid a blowout. Your "law and order poll watching" might be intimidation to others. Trump is literally talking about mail in voting after he had a conversation with Putin, in which he says Putin told him mail in voting is bad.

There is a profound difference in are they happening, are they going to have any measurable effect on the outcome of the election, and are the democrats going to use any and all of the above as an excuse for why they still suck in 2026.

Gerrymandering isn’t new. Concern over mail in voting isn’t new. Poll watching isn’t new. The right isn’t reinventing the wheel, they are retooling old tactics (doesn’t mean it’s right). When the country is so divided, I just don’t understand how anyone can be surprised by this.

An executive order attempting to ban mail in voting isn’t a further slide to authoritarianism. Because rational people understand it has no teeth and will be immediately shot down by the courts. You know the very effective checks and balances that yall forget are working well despite all the Mao comparisons you swear by. It is fodder for the talking point that the left is okay with “fraudulent” elections that will carry itself in the news cycle through the midterms.

 

[rowsdower88]

Gerrymandering isn’t new. Concern over mail in voting isn’t new. Poll watching isn’t new. The right isn’t reinventing the wheel, they are retooling old tactics (doesn’t mean it’s right). When the country is so divided, I just don’t understand how anyone can be surprised by this.

Surprised? No. It's a continuation of conservative policy to skirt democracy. If Democrats want to have a seat at the table they have to erode democracy in Blue states as well. We'll see if a detente can be reached before we just end up with entirely blue and entirely red states.

An executive order attempting to ban mail in voting isn’t a further slide to authoritarianism. Because rational people understand it has no teeth and will be immediately shot down by the courts. You know the very effective checks and balances that yall forget are working well despite all the Mao comparisons you swear by. It is fodder for the talking point that the left is okay with “fraudulent” elections that will carry itself in the news cycle through the midterms.

Look at you catastrophizing legitimate criticism. Did I say it was a slide to authoritarianism? I think I just said it was bad? It was likely suggested by Putin (according to Trump!).

Who said anything about Mao? Your "checks and balances" are being hallowed out over time, but pointing that out and even describing potential negative consequences of it are always worse than the actual actions being criticized. Look at the Big Beautiful Bill that just passed by an entirely Republican controlled government. Could a Republican party of even 10 years ago have passed such a bloated and wasteful bill? (I mean maybe, they did pass the TCJA...)

It is perennial:

You're consistently more upset about an "overreaction" than about some of the indefensible actions themselves.

What are your actual thoughts on the executive order aiming to restrict mail in voting (other than you believe it will be struck down or not acted upon)? Surely its not good... right? If you agree its bad, and I didn't even say anything about it being a "slide to authoritarianism", then what are you even critiquing anymore?

 

[Account1]

The best mathematician of our time is getting his funding cut. We’re setting an amazing example for the next generation…

I’m an award-winning mathematician. Trump just cut my funding.

The “Mozart of Math” tried to stay out of politics. Then it came for his research.

newsletter.ofthebrave.org

Best mathematician of our time and no endowed chair or professorship? Bullocks!

 

[deleted87051]

The best mathematician of our time is getting his funding cut. We’re setting an amazing example for the next generation…

I’m an award-winning mathematician. Trump just cut my funding.

The “Mozart of Math” tried to stay out of politics. Then it came for his research.

newsletter.ofthebrave.org

His wife works at JPL. Don’t know if she was affected by job cuts there. He would be welcome back in his native Australia. It’s all waste and fraud anyway😉….

 

[deleted87051]

Best mathematician of our time and no endowed chair or professorship? Bullocks!

UCLA Department of Mathematics

www.math.ucla.edu

Youngest ever IMO Gold Medalist age 13
Fields medalist
MacArthur genius award
PhD age 21
Full professor age 24
Probably the highest demand collaborator by other mathematicians.
etc etc

 

[Chrish]

Best mathematician of our time and no endowed chair or professorship? Bullocks!

Most people on that sub are actual mathematicians.

 

[Splenda88]

I disagree. I think Putin mentioned it, but it's also true that Trump's railed against mail in voting for years. So it's not really new, Putin just reminded him to bring up this old complaint again.

Even if Putin said it, you don't believe that Trump believes that: 'Putin wants to end the war for me'

 

[Chrish]

His wife works at JPL. Don’t know if she was affected by job cuts there. He would be welcome back in his native Australia. It’s all waste and fraud anyway😉….

There is a saying in academia that AI race is between the Chinese and Chinese Americans. Now thanks to current admin’s treatment of Chinese students, many of them will go back to China instead of staying here after their PhD. China will be absolutely delighted.

 

[rowsdower88]

Even if Putin said it, you don't believe that Trump believes that: 'Putin wants to end the war for me'

Lmao, I have no idea.

Trump seems pretty open to donating Ukrainian land and security, that's likely part of a good deal for Putin.

 

[Account1]

Most people on that sub are actual mathematicians.

This guy sounds like a great candidate for some of uclas 10 billion dollar endowment. I’m sure that ucla can prioritize his important work if he’s that big a player in the field.

If not, I guess ucla will be content to allow him to fail. Unfortunately they cant control Donald trumps actions, but they can control their own. We’ll see what’s important to ucla and what isn’t. Perhaps they can cut their HR department and half of their administrators?

 

[Account1]

UCLA Department of Mathematics

www.math.ucla.edu

Youngest ever IMO Gold Medalist age 13
Fields medalist
MacArthur genius award
PhD age 21
Full professor age 24
Probably the highest demand collaborator by other mathematicians.
etc etc

12 people running the UCLA DEI office

DSG Global

www.dsgco.com

Fire them, problem solved.

Sometimes bad things will happen and money you thought would be there no longer is. It’s up to the university to figure out their priorities. This would be an excellent starting point.

One time at my house, some money I thought was coming in didn’t end up being there through no fault of our own. I had to rework our budget and make choices. We did fine. I didn’t write a blog about it either.

 

[deleted87051]

12 people running the UCLA DEI office

DSG Global

www.dsgco.com

Fire them, problem solved.

Sometimes bad things will happen and money you thought would be there no longer is. It’s up to the university to figure out their priorities. This would be an excellent starting point.

One time at my house, some money I thought was coming in didn’t end up being there through no fault of our own. I had to rework our budget and make choices. We did fine. I didn’t write a blog about it either.

What does that have to do with competitive grants for a once in a generation mathematician? I was pointing out that he does hold an endowed chair. His department is very diverse drawing internationally but that’s not due to any diversity initiative

 

[Account1]

What does that have to do with competitive grants for a once in a generation mathematician? I was pointing out that he does hold an endowed chair. His department is very diverse drawing internationally but that’s not due to any diversity initiative

Ah I see. I figured an endowed professor wouldn’t need to complain about funding being cut since he’s getting institutional support. Sounds like he’s doing fine, just wants to grandstand

 

[rowsdower88]

"On Monday, the Trump administration announced that Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey will be appointed “co-deputy director” of the Federal Bureau of Investigations.

It’s an odd arrangement. As the Washington Post notes, the deputy director is usually a career official with a deep understanding of the FBI’s structure and staffing, not someone with zero federal prosecutorial or investigative experience. There’s also the awkward fact that the position is currently occupied by former right-wing griftcaster Dan Bongino.

Assigning Bongino a “babysitter” is hardly a vote of confidence, and all he could manage on Twitter was a terse “Welcome.” He did punctuate it with three American flags, though! ...

The problem appears to be that Bongino and his boss, FBI Director Kash Patel, are terrible at their jobs.

Most recently, they found themselves crosswise with the MAGA base they so assiduously cultivated in private life after announcing that — contra their prior public blustering — Jeffrey Epstein really did kill himself. Then they followed up by releasing an obviously doctored video to prove it.

The backlash after Bondi walked back her promise to release the “Epstein client list” was so fierce that it reduced Bongino to a raging tantrum, after which he failed to show up for work. But while the Epstein fiasco was the most public demonstration of Bongino and Patel’s incompetence, it was hardly the only one.

“I gave up everything for this,” Bongino whined on Fox News in May, apparently shocked that the job that required him to do more than shout into a microphone a few hours a day. “I stare at these four walls all day in DC, by myself, divorced from my wife — not divorced, but I mean separated, divorced — and it’s hard. I mean, we love each other, and it’s hard to be apart.” (Why Mrs. Bongino can’t join her husband in DC was left unexplained.)

And Patel was apparently so offended at the suggestion that he rarely shows his face in the Hoover building that he sued MSNBC commentator Frank Figliuzzi for noticing it.

Bongino was momentarily able to stanch the bleeding by promising the faithful that he’d seen some ****, man, and would soon unleash the retribution he’d so long predicted.

But despite this solemn vow to strike a blow against the Deep State, Bongino and Patel have done little more than fire a few career civil servants and reshuffle the org chart. Clearly if Trump wants the FBI to do more than harass DC residents, he’ll need someone more creative than these two."

Dan Bongino's babysitter

FBI leadership needs some adult supervision.

www.publicnotice.co

 

[deleted87051]

Ah I see. I figured an endowed professor wouldn’t need to complain about funding being cut since he’s getting institutional support. Sounds like he’s doing fine, just wants to grandstand

He will be fine personally. He is advocating for his students and mentees and American leadership in fundamental science.

 

[deleted87051]

Trump is willfully trying to destroy an industry where we are the world leader.

Vanishing Advantage: The U.S. Brain Drain Has Begun

The foundation of the United States’ global competitiveness and long-term prosperity is its workforce. The country’s knowledge- and technology-intensive

tcf.org

Stemming the American Brain Drain

A lack of sustained federal funding, deteriorating research infrastructure and networks, restrictive immigration policies, and waning international collaboration are driving this erosion into a full-scale “American Brain Drain.”

fas.org

From Brain Gain to Brain Drain: The Cost of Undermining U.S. Higher Education |

atkinson.cornell.edu

 

[Account1]

Trump is willfully trying to destroy an industry where we are the world leader.

Vanishing Advantage: The U.S. Brain Drain Has Begun

The foundation of the United States’ global competitiveness and long-term prosperity is its workforce. The country’s knowledge- and technology-intensive

tcf.org

Stemming the American Brain Drain

A lack of sustained federal funding, deteriorating research infrastructure and networks, restrictive immigration policies, and waning international collaboration are driving this erosion into a full-scale “American Brain Drain.”

fas.org

From Brain Gain to Brain Drain: The Cost of Undermining U.S. Higher Education |

atkinson.cornell.edu

Trump is willfully trying to destroy an industry where we are the world leader.

Vanishing Advantage: The U.S. Brain Drain Has Begun

The foundation of the United States’ global competitiveness and long-term prosperity is its workforce. The country’s knowledge- and technology-intensive

tcf.org

Stemming the American Brain Drain

A lack of sustained federal funding, deteriorating research infrastructure and networks, restrictive immigration policies, and waning international collaboration are driving this erosion into a full-scale “American Brain Drain.”

fas.org

From Brain Gain to Brain Drain: The Cost of Undermining U.S. Higher Education |

atkinson.cornell.edu

China and France are famous for their hospitality to immigrants that look different and aren’t native speakers of the state language

 

[deleted87051]

China and France are famous for their hospitality to immigrants that look different and aren’t native speakers of the state language

Our hospitality was our strength.

 

[Account1]

Our hospitality was our strength.

lol, haven’t traveled much I see? I’m not talking about the governments of these places.

And hospitality is like 10% of it anyway. It’s our economic system that matters to attract talent

Talented people like to make money. The United States is essentially the only place you can do that just by being talented.

 

[Chrish]

Our hospitality was our strength.

Simple google search shows the following:

“From 1901 to 2023, about 36% of American Nobel Prize winners in chemistry, medicine, and physics were immigrants, with that percentage rising to approximately 40% of U.S. awardees in these categories since 2000. This trend highlights the significant contributions of foreign-born talent to American scientific advancement, as immigrant winners continue to be a large portion of Nobel laureates affiliated with U.S. institutions.“

I really don’t understand how one can argue that the robust government funding and research infrastructure US has in place for past several decades is ineffective. We basically import the IQ from rest of the world (until now).

 

[UscGhost]

China and France are famous for their hospitality to immigrants that look different and aren’t native speakers of the state language

Yup.

And those countries are facing a demographic crisis with declining birth rates and aging population. Guess what? Immigrants are young and have kids

Oh, and not to mention the fact that young folks consume more goods (drive economic growth), and US immigrants have lower crime/higher job creation per capita than native born US citizens.

Also 15% of US billionaires are immigrants. And immigrants are more likely to become millionaires

Study: Immigrants in the US are more likely to start firms, create jobs

Immigrants to the U.S. are more likely, on a per-capita basis, to start businesses than native-born Americans are, according to an MIT study that looks at registered businesses across the country.

news.mit.edu

 

[Account1]

Yup.

And those countries are facing a demographic crisis with declining birth rates and aging population. Guess what? Immigrants are young and have kids

Oh, and not to mention the fact that young folks consume more goods (drive economic growth), and US immigrants have lower crime/higher job creation per capita than native born US citizens.

Also 15% of US billionaires are immigrants. And immigrants are more likely to become millionaires

Study: Immigrants in the US are more likely to start firms, create jobs

Immigrants to the U.S. are more likely, on a per-capita basis, to start businesses than native-born Americans are, according to an MIT study that looks at registered businesses across the country.

news.mit.edu

I am unaware of plans to stop immigration of talented people to the United States