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nimbus said:
Well he said this 16 years ago. It’s almost as if his employer and his fans agree with him.

www.salon.com

Fox's Kilmeade apologizes for "pure" societies remark - Salon.com

The host took his time, but now says he's sorry for saying Americans "keep marrying other species"
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You think any large number of people agree with him on euthanizing the mentally ill? Seriously?

I’m calling it now, dude will be fired. I hope I’m not proven wrong
 
PainInTheAnes said:
You think any large number of people agree with him on euthanizing the mentally ill? Seriously?

I’m calling it now, dude will be fired. I hope I’m not proven wrong
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nimbus said:
Well he said this 16 years ago. It’s almost as if his employer and his fans agree with him.

www.salon.com

Fox's Kilmeade apologizes for "pure" societies remark - Salon.com

The host took his time, but now says he's sorry for saying Americans "keep marrying other species"
www.salon.com www.salon.com
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Can you really convince someone that is not European descent that guy is NOT racist? after he said something like that.
 
anonperson said:
Also posted on TMZ.

They're usually on point.

www.tmz.com

Tyler Robinson Reportedly Living with Trans Partner Before Allegedly Shooting Charlie Kirk

Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was reportedly living with a transgender partner before the attack.
www.tmz.com www.tmz.com
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The desperation to blame this on transgender people is weird. Frankly, the whole kicking back and forth between “right” and “left” claiming he’s a member of the “other team” is weird. The guy became delusional because he spent all his time online and was radicalized by the trash on the internet. He’s not an operative of either party. He’s just a crazy guy. I bet the psychology of these “political murderers” is very similar to the mass shooters of schools.
 
GravelRider said:
The desperation to blame this on transgender people is weird. Frankly, the whole kicking back and forth between “right” and “left” claiming he’s a member of the “other team” is weird. The guy became delusional because he spent all his time online and was radicalized by the trash on the internet. He’s not an operative of either party. He’s just a crazy guy. I bet the psychology of these “political murderers” is very similar to the mass shooters of schools.
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Yeah, this is why I don’t think it’ll go anywhere politically on either side. This shooter is a symptom of the problem of social media. The Utah governor said that the day this happened and it’s the most accurate assessment of what drove this murder I’ve seen.

Social media in teenagers: not even once
 
Chrish said:
Unlawful invasion of our cities, pardoning Jan 6th rioters who attacked our officers (few of whom committed suicide), $5 million Mar-a-Lago dinners, accepting $400 million plane as a personal gift from foreign government, cancelling security clearance of opposition leaders and announcing it publicly (to put a target on their back), ignoring judge’s order not to deport people, attacking universities and law firms who represented democrats, attacking news networks, attacking our institutions such as CDC, and inciting political violence.

Do you honestly expect the next Democratic president to simply forget that any of this happened? Do you honestly believe that all the citizens of this country will simply move on from this?

Whether you like it or not, the political landscape of this country has changed forever. People will want justice and rightfully so.

Not punishing this administration will set a very dangerous precedent for future (that you can purge the government to your heart’s content as long as you are in power).
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Bro are you just posting pieces of your manifesto now?
 
Conservative and Liberals continue to talk pass each other. It is useless to try and convince the other side. The constant rhetoric from one side to the other and making it personal is what continues the divide.

Everyone just need to tone it down and accept people will have views that makes zero sense.

I have watched probably 15 Kirk videos in the past and he makes sense 95% of the time to me. I disagree with the other 5-10%. The left see those 5-10% as radical. The right sees it as too far right. 95% of the People who hate Kirk are just ill informed and too lazy to actually watch his videos. They either just watch tik tock snippets or use reddit as their news. They are just too lazy and want to have their beliefs confirmed by watching 5 second snippets.

They then become radicalized after countless hours of searching for, "Kirk is racists" and pops up hundreds of snippets. Again, if you seek then you will find. This guy sought and became radicalized. Anyone who kills another based on never really meeting the person has been radicalized.
 
emergentmd said:
Conservative and Liberals continue to talk pass each other. It is useless to try and convince the other side. The constant rhetoric from one side to the other and making it personal is what continues the divide.

Everyone just need to tone it down and accept people will have views that makes zero sense.

I have watched probably 15 Kirk videos in the past and he makes sense 95% of the time to me. I disagree with the other 5-10%. The left see those 5-10% as radical. The right sees it as too far right. 95% of the People who hate Kirk are just ill informed and too lazy to actually watch his videos. They either just watch tik tock snippets or use reddit as their news. They are just too lazy and want to have their beliefs confirmed by watching 5 second snippets.

They then become radicalized after countless hours of searching for, "Kirk is racists" and pops up hundreds of snippets. Again, if you seek then you will find. This guy sought and became radicalized. Anyone who kills another based on never really meeting the person has been radicalized.
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You are pretty generous.

www.theguardian.com

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
emergentmd said:
Conservative and Liberals continue to talk pass each other. It is useless to try and convince the other side. The constant rhetoric from one side to the other and making it personal is what continues the divide.

Everyone just need to tone it down and accept people will have views that makes zero sense.

I have watched probably 15 Kirk videos in the past and he makes sense 95% of the time to me. I disagree with the other 5-10%. The left see those 5-10% as radical. The right sees it as too far right. 95% of the People who hate Kirk are just ill informed and too lazy to actually watch his videos. They either just watch tik tock snippets or use reddit as their news. They are just too lazy and want to have their beliefs confirmed by watching 5 second snippets.

They then become radicalized after countless hours of searching for, "Kirk is racists" and pops up hundreds of snippets. Again, if you seek then you will find. This guy sought and became radicalized. Anyone who kills another based on never really meeting the person has been radicalized.
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Some people are indoctrinated/radicalized by social media/groypers/whatever the shooter was into.

Other people can start believing conspiracy theories like the Great Replacement Theory and that the 2020 election was stolen from sources like... Charlie Kirk. In fact, that's often how people come to believe conspiracy theories. They're welcomed into the fold with rhetoric that is familiar, and then they will sneak in the actual bad stuff when the guard comes down.

To use your numbers, the fact that 95% of his content is "innocuous" doesn't mean the 5% bat**** nonsense shouldn't be vehemently criticized.
 
emergentmd said:
Conservative and Liberals continue to talk pass each other. It is useless to try and convince the other side. The constant rhetoric from one side to the other and making it personal is what continues the divide.

Everyone just need to tone it down and accept people will have views that makes zero sense.

I have watched probably 15 Kirk videos in the past and he makes sense 95% of the time to me. I disagree with the other 5-10%. The left see those 5-10% as radical. The right sees it as too far right. 95% of the People who hate Kirk are just ill informed and too lazy to actually watch his videos. They either just watch tik tock snippets or use reddit as their news. They are just too lazy and want to have their beliefs confirmed by watching 5 second snippets.

They then become radicalized after countless hours of searching for, "Kirk is racists" and pops up hundreds of snippets. Again, if you seek then you will find. This guy sought and became radicalized. Anyone who kills another based on never really meeting the person has been radicalized.
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I didn’t even really know who the guy was until all of this. It’s pretty clear he was a racist and homophobe amongst other things though.
 
psycho-matic said:
"We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately."

'nough said
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Do you practice gender affirming care? You don’t have to answer that I’m honestly curious given some of the other personal details you have shared here.

It’s very likely he would say the same thing about doctors who perform abortions since he’s made comparisons to the holocaust. While that would be an extreme way to phrase the issue, I certainly wouldnt call it a radical position since roughly half the voters don’t think it should be legal in all cases.

A “Nuremberg trial” is akin to a public reckoning, and a trial involves due process. Unless your interpretation is he believes we should march them straight to the gallows. I think if that is what he meant, he would have said it.

Some of his position comes from a place of ignorance, he thinks doctors just hand out pills and do reassignment surgery without much second thought. Some of his position is from misinterpreting and cherry picking data. Some of it is to fit the narrative. Nevertheless, there are those that detransition, even if small it’s a non zero number. And, there are very public stories that imply mental health, like Chris Beck, or the failure of gender as a social construct, like the E.O. Money paper.

I don’t find it extreme or surprising in this context, that he believed he needed to protect children from making irreversible changes to their body.
 
nimbus said:
This is admittedly leftist media but they have a point.

theintercept.com

Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Is Part of a Trend: Spiking Gun Violence in Red States

Charlie Kirk’s assassination in Utah fits a pattern of gun violence run amok in red states.
theintercept.com theintercept.com

utahcarrylaws.com

Schools

utahcarrylaws.com utahcarrylaws.com
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"Gun violence" is linked to poverty. Poverty is higher in red states. That's all there really is to say about it.

Just make the penalty for illegally obtaining or possessing a firearm 20-life, it all goes away in a year or two.
 
PainInTheAnes said:
"Gun violence" is linked to poverty. Poverty is higher in red states. That's all there really is to say about it.

Just make the penalty for illegally obtaining or possessing a firearm 20-life, it all goes away in a year or two.
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I bet the rifle used by Tyler was legally obtained.
 
nimbus said:
I bet the rifle used by Tyler was legally obtained.
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PainInTheAnes said:
Yes, that is pretty likely. Stochastic terrorism is a rounding error in the overarching discussion of gun homicide.
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And it’s a hunting rifle. Like one of the guns the left supposedly doesn’t want to ban.
 
Splenda88 said:
Trump is a casualty of the democratic party not policing themselves. Biden should have never tried to run for a 2nd term.

I don't care that much about political party as much I as care for the country. I want the country to return to a point in which political affiliation is NOT what define us.
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Great point. Carter gave us Reagan and and Biden/Harris gave us Trump 2.0. Both sides need to do better or we are in trouble.
 
PainInTheAnes said:
"Gun violence" is linked to poverty. Poverty is higher in red states. That's all there really is to say about it.

Just make the penalty for illegally obtaining or possessing a firearm 20-life, it all goes away in a year or two.
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Probably is...most of the red states try to make it as legal as possible to own any firearm, and as many as you can get your hands on.

Kinda makes you wonder why red states have higher crime rates, more violence, more poverty yet the GOP are supposed to be better on crime, violence and the economy

Makes ya think
 
VA Hopeful Dr said:
Yep, but he also only shot 1 person...
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So did James Earl Ray, and Lee Harvey Oswald…

But yes, MOST gun violence involves ONE victim.

UscGhost said:
Was he planning on using it and fighting off tyranny?

James Madison would be proud ?
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Are you advocating for the banning of bolt action hunting rifles as well? I’m just trying to pin you guys down here, because you supposedly aren’t coming after the guns, right?
 
He doesn’t sound like a racist homophobe here. 🤔


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"When we stop having conversations, the violence starts" We can't stop the conversations now and the movement that Charlie started is only just the beginning. All the youth that were touched by...
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DocMcCoy said:
So did James Earl Ray, and Lee Harvey Oswald…

But yes, MOST gun violence involves ONE victim.



Are you advocating for the banning of bolt action hunting rifles as well? I’m just trying to pin you guys down here, because you supposedly aren’t coming after the guns, right?
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I'll take your post as true, but that's kinda the point.

You can kill multiple people with any gun but it's way harder with some than others.
 
Splenda88 said:
So slavery should not have been abolished because there were more black fathers at home.
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That is where your mind went? That is not when slavey ended or what ended slavery. You are off by a century.

The point is this- times were bad with way more racist ppl, racist laws and obstructive hindrances. So why were they doing better/more prosperous then? They had fathers in the homes.

I think you are pulling my leg. Regardless, this is further proof you are regurgitating party lines without any understanding of what you spew.

Watch the videos. It’s harder to hate when you listen and understand
Splenda88 said:
Do you realize that fatherless home has increased in the white and Hispanics community as well? (Albeit worse in the back community).
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Keep going with that. How have they been trending? Asians fatherless rate is very low. How have they done? It all makes sense
Splenda88 said:
I happen to agree with him on social issues, but I am not going out of my way to insult/demonize people.
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it kind of seems like you are demonizing him when you say he said racist things when he never did.

Calling him racist, fascist, nazi is so lazy but a common theme from the left. I don’t see the same amount from the right.

“You don’t kill someone bc they are a fascist. You call them a fascist so you can kill them” -interwebz
 
Splenda88 said:
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'" Charlie Kirk
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You can repeat that quote which was taken out of context (just like Stephen king did and subsequently apologize). Or you can watch the video and realize you are repeating lies.
Splenda88 said:
Do you think Pete Hegseth is qualified for the job he has?
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I don’t know anything about him other than he was on fox, he likes renaming things and I think he is some guys secretary
 
Southpaw said:
The kid was radicalized. Here’s the difference for me - i don’t care if it was radical left or right. I see no difference between the two. Both are a danger to society when combined with easy access to guns in this country.

If you are so invested in him being radical left, why? What’s your agenda? Why ignore the facts of him growing up in the Mormon church and a maga household? You can somehow convince yourself he woke up one day and was like ‘Joe Biden is super cool….but I think I need to go quite a bit more left of that….’

Both sides can be extremely dangerous when taken to the extreme. POTUS and his flock of influencers blaming the left, knowing NO FACTS (but now suddenly being eerily quiet…) is extremely irresponsible!
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I can’t speak for others, but my best guess… they want to point to colleges as a place that indoctrinates and radicalizes kids. Turning kids against their family with almost zero political diversity.

I think this is a poor case bc he only went one semester. But there are other ways to indoctrinate.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:

Calling him racist, fascist, nazi is so lazy but a common theme from the left. I don’t see the same amount from the right.

“You don’t kill someone bc they are a fascist. You call them a fascist so you can kill them” -interwebz
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I have heard your dear leader Trump calling people fascist and communist all the time
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
I can’t speak for others, but my best guess… they want to point to colleges as a place that indoctrinates and radicalizes kids. Turning kids against their family with almost zero political diversity.

I think this is a poor case bc he only went one semester. But there are other ways to indoctrinate.
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In humanities and social science fields, Republican faculty members are significantly outnumbered by their liberal and left-leaning colleagues
. The specific percentages vary depending on the study and the subset of faculty examined, but research consistently shows Republican representation is low, particularly at elite institutions.
Key findings from recent research include:
  • Political registration ratios: A 2020 study by the National Association of Scholars found a Democratic-to-Republican (D:R) registration ratio of 8.5:1 among professors at flagship state institutions. This ratio was much higher (10:1 or more) at the highest-ranked institutions. In some elite liberal arts colleges, the ratio was found to be as high as 12.7:1 in a related 2017 study.
  • Social sciences vs. humanities: While both fields lean heavily left, the ratio of liberal to conservative faculty is typically more pronounced in the humanities than in the social sciences. As far back as 1999, one survey found the ratio of Democrat-to-Republican identifiers was 12:1 in the humanities and 6.5:1 in the social sciences.
  • Ideological self-identification: A 2022 report found that among a group of professors, 13.2% categorized themselves as "conservative" or "far right," compared to 69.5% as "liberal" or "far left". The report noted that the liberal majority has become more pronounced compared to earlier studies.
 
VA Hopeful Dr said:
I'll take your post as true, but that's kinda the point.

You can kill multiple people with any gun but it's way harder with some than others.
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That’s good because it’s a fact.

If you really want to put a dent in gun violence you are gong to have to ban handguns and address suicide considering the fact that if you completely stopped every ar related mass shooting you would stop approx 1/20 gun violence related homicides, and less than 2 percent of all gun related deaths. And that is being generous.

2023 cdc data 46,700 gun related deaths, of which there are 27,300 suicides, and 722 mass shooting deaths
(Gva, data).

I’m sure they are going to stop at ar15s and high capacity magazines when there are still 46,000 gun deaths per year…
 
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2025DandW said:
I am amazed how the human mind can rationalize the most ridiculous thing. He said what he said. Black bodies have always been over policed. If you tear a people down, going from Jim Crow to the mass incarceration, it just might have some consequences on the Black family. He oversimplified things to make Black people appear has if they stood on the same firm ground as whites regardless of all the trauma endured by being African American in the US from the time of slavery to current times.
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Serious question. I’m not a historian. I am pretty sure black peoples lives got better from slavery to the 1960s. Coming from slavery would be the most traumatic. Why are things worse from 1960 to now? The 1960s weren’t more traumatic than slavery.

The government incentivized fathers not being in the home. It makes harder but not impossible to be successful. True for any race

Victim mentality never helps out unless you are training for the oppression Olympics.
 
Chrish said:
This “if they go low, we go high” nonsense has gotten us into the mess we are in right now.

No! Use the sovereign might of government and go after the malevolent forces that have invaded our politics.

We need a hard reset.
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I reluctantly agree. Unfortunately, this hard turn to the right is not only happening in the US. Trump is an opportunist. History has a way of repeating itself. Will we ever learn?
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
Serious question. I’m not a historian. I am pretty sure black peoples lives got better from slavery to the 1960s. Coming from slavery would be the most traumatic. Why are things worse from 1960 to now? The 1960s weren’t more traumatic than slavery.

The government incentivized fathers not being in the home. It makes harder but not impossible to be successful. True for any race

Victim mentality never helps out unless you are training for the oppression Olympics.
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This has to be the most white boomer thing I have seen posted this year.

Do women in medicine next!
 
Splenda88 said:
Maybe I was not paying attention here. I did not see anyone here celebrating Charlie Kirk assassination.

You can point to a post to me. Maybe I missed it.

Both parties have their fringes doing despicable things. You should have visited Twitter when the lawmakers were killed in MN or when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked or even when they announced Biden had prostate cancer.
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No one has on here. But there is literally 1000’s online which is puzzling. If I was far left, I would hide it so I could be more effective and presentable.

The fact that an alarmingly larger number of people are willing to display their delusional and detestable behavior is concerning for our country.
 
2025DandW said:
I reluctantly agree. Unfortunately, this hard turn to the right is not only happening in the US. Trump is an opportunist. History has a way of repeating itself. Will we ever learn?
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What's funny about people who don't know history is that they think that if X person wasn't around, or didn't make the right moves, that Y movement wouldn't have happened.

Maybe it's the world itself that's driving people to reactionary right wing movements. If the world were different, we wouldn't see it, but it's the way it is, and the shift is happening.
 
Splenda88 said:
You seem to conveniently forget this.

Charlie Kirk still insisted that Trump won the 2020 election.

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I watched that to be a good sport. Didn’t seem violent in the sense of burning and punching people but violent in the sense of pushing through barricades and window. I think mainly bc I was unfairly pitting it against the looting and burning I often see in riots. So in my mind if I hear riot, I think burning and looting.

I will critique the video is sounds like the sound was amplified. Way louder than realistically expected. And it sounded like stock audio on the button cam/fish eye cam Which possibly/likely had no audio.

Still blows my mind that people would unlawfully go in a federal building with cops around. Heck, I try not to pass a cop on the road even if I’m not speeding
 
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nimbus said:
Examples??
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The list was longer but I cut out the names. Apparently an anesthesiologist unfortunately. College administrators. Tons of videos. I assume the first 5 videos I saw could’ve just been faked or out of context. But they keep on coming like an avalanche. So I’m assuming many are true. Not to mention personal anecdotes. I don’t read/watch the videos bc it is depressing. Feel free to go deeper
 
chessknt said:
So why is Trump the left's fault but Biden/Harris is not the right's fault again? Sounds like really only one side is being asked to do better.
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Simple. Both were weak/ineffective Presidents. Afterwards, the country chose assertive Republican Presidents who did some pretty bad things. Carter's and Biden's presidencies influenced the outcome of the next election. Certainly you could say George HW Bush gave us Clinton as HW was pretty ineffective too. I have no ill will toward either, you never get everything you want with a Pres. I have great respect for Pres Carter as a person, he pounded lots of nails for Habitat. But he was not an effective Pres. No need to comment on Biden/Harris as we are 340 pages in to Biden is out of the race and everything possible has already been said. Trump is flailing in real time, so the economy will determine his successor.
 
anonperson said:
Also posted on TMZ.

They're usually on point.

www.tmz.com

Tyler Robinson Reportedly Living with Trans Partner Before Allegedly Shooting Charlie Kirk

Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was reportedly living with a transgender partner before the attack.
www.tmz.com www.tmz.com
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This struck me as hilarious!

“I don’t trust New York Post bc it is garbage.”

“Okay, let me check out tmz.”

Maybe tmz is legit. But any time I’ve seen something from them, I feel like I need a bath. I assumed they were just paparazzi with a show
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
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The list was longer but I cut out the names. Apparently an anesthesiologist unfortunately. College administrators. Tons of videos. I assume the first 5 videos I saw could’ve just been faked or out of context. But they keep on coming like an avalanche. So I’m assuming many are true. Not to mention personal anecdotes. I don’t read/watch the videos bc it is depressing. Feel free to go deeper
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I see a
BobLoblaw78 said:
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The list was longer but I cut out the names. Apparently an anesthesiologist unfortunately. College administrators. Tons of videos. I assume the first 5 videos I saw could’ve just been faked or out of context. But they keep on coming like an avalanche. So I’m assuming many are true. Not to mention personal anecdotes. I don’t read/watch the videos bc it is depressing. Feel free to go deeper
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Can you share a link so I can see for myself?
 
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