Big 4 in the caribbean vs DO schools stats....

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Then don't read them. You're welcome, I solved your problem.



Right, I do work at Barnes (and not at WUSOM). I said I worked at WUSM because not everyone knows that Barnes is affiliated with WUSOM and it was easier to type a different acronym than explain that as a Barnes employee, I see WUSOM staff everywhere. I used to work in a research lab at WU, and then I realized that Barnes is a better situation for me. My lab job is a straight 40 hour per week job during which I spend 30+ hours waiting for things to happen. It also pays more than any entry level lab job at WUSOM. My job also gives me the opportunity to interact with people in clinical medicine as well as people in academic medicine. My job also involves me traveling for conferences and attending board meetings focused on furthering the field. My job also does not hinge on a research grant (like many WUSOM jobs do) and therefore offers better job security. So sure, maybe my lab job isn't as great as your job is or as great as you imagine lab jobs can be, but there really isn't anything bad about it.

And no, not all of my posts are rude or unsupportive. Let me pull out a few examples.

I find it necessary to point out false information, especially when it's blatantly wrong and obviously completely made up. DOs can go just about anywhere they want provided they are competitive enough. Very few (if any) programs actually do not admit DOs at all. That's a total rumor and is one that needs to cease to be spread around. As a DO you probably won't get into the most prestigious places in the country, but you probably wouldn't have done that even as an MD. Simple statistics tells you that.

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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=954669
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=954355
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=954631
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=953649
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=945089
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=914222


LOL first of all dude I don't really care about how much money you make, grats dude you make money to sit and do something a mindless monkey could do. I actually had the opportunity to have a job like yours but denied it. I have a 40 hour work week as well- some days I work 12 hour days, the next day I maybe work 4 because of my long experiment the day before and my job isn't grant funded. The project that I work on is grant funded. I picked my job because I do get the same interactions and opportunities that you do, but I wanted something intellectually stimulating that could challenge me and make me think. Which is something we do in medical school!?!?!:eek: My lab job isn't great, it could be mindless, but Im not a lazy person and I would rather make myself useful. its what I make it, I pushed beyond what was required within my job description and got asked to work on harder projects due to my work ethic. I'd rather put that on my CV, just saying

Like I said before, it's hard not to read your posts because there are about 329821938129312 of them. Maybe instead of spending your time bashing and arguing with people on here you could read a Nature magazine. For the time it took for me to get home from work and begin dinner you already responded on here multiple times.

She went back and reworded her statement. You could have said something like, oh hey Felix, I work at wusm too and you are actually incorrect they do let DOs in, instead of NICE TRY THOUGH. Which is arrogant and rude.

You actually told me once that I probably will get an interview or 2. if Im lucky. which isn't supportive and encouraging. and I currently have 7. Im just saying for all of the 10k posts you have you do have a lot of condescending and rude ones compared to the nice and supportive ones. I definitely don't think you got into med school based on your personality, thats for sure. If you care to meet up and want me to say that to your face i would be more than happy to.

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Nah dude. bijoux22 works at the almighty Washington University in St Louis School of Medicine and michow87 is a bright flower medical student. They're special and the rest of us aren't.


lol didn't say anything about me being almighty and awesome.
I actually am at the lowest point on the totem pole at my job- Im just saying if you are at job where 90% of the time you are sitting and wasting your life away on sdn maybe you should find something a little more intellectually stimulating.
 
i hate to burst bubbles, but from what ive seen 90% of this forum is rude/unsupportive with borderline elitist: my school is better than your school attitudes, lol. so we dont need to single people out..i mean people told me on here not to even apply. thats why i respond to "what are my chances threads" for DO, so i can correct the *****s that tell people with average stats not to apply.

Smalls, I completely agree with you and have been following your story on here and in the UD fb group. I am extremely happy that you have been accepted and your advice for me has been nothing but encouraging and positive. So thank you- you will be a great physician :)
 
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Smalls, I completely agree with you and have been following your story on here and in the UD fb group. I am extremely happy that you have been accepted and your advice for me has been nothing but encouraging and positive. So thank you- you will be a great physician :)

thanks,that means a lot. just gotta keep moving forward despite what anyone tells you, your success always depends on you the most.
 
thanks,that means a lot. just gotta keep moving forward despite what anyone tells you, your success always depends on you the most.

I honestly do not know why I read SDN anymore. The thought that some of the people on here are actually going to become physicians and future classmates makes me uneasy. When matching plastics becomes your priority over helping those in need, you know you are a true SDNer.

I guess SDN is like squashing a spider...
 
yes, actually we should not even list ECs on the application. Or even have interviews. Just go 100% by numbers and name. Im sure that will always produce the best doctors.

WUSTL has been number whoring for a looong time. It seems to work out pretty well for them. :corny:
 
There's a lot of malignancy on SDN, but I think it's reflective of Physician culture. If you don't like it, do what they say in the military- Get promoted and change it.

In all honesty, you should not concern yourself with others. Holding onto hate is a waste of a life. This can be in the form of jealousy, confusion, malignant or narcissitic behavior or straight up anger. The only person you really have to answer to is yourself.

So...DO, MD, IMG, NP, PA, EMT, Scribe. As long as you can look in the mirror and be happy, what does it matter? Seriously children, be secure with yourself.
 
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as a side note, I'm surprise this forum doesn't have spoiler tags.
 
WUSTL has been number whoring for a looong time. It seems to work out pretty well for them. :corny:
LOL this is soo true. hahahaha

Edit: I naively met with the admissions director once in regards to my application *mind blown*

the higher the average mcat= more $$ given to the som.

and I thought that physicians had to personable?
 
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Stop wasting your money on 2nd & 3rd rate medical schools in the Caribbean,
the only ones that are real accredited in the USA are the ones in Puerto Rico,
your best second option will be to go to a DO school, end of story,
 
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people told me on here "theres a garbage pile for apps like mine". I had 3 interviews by september.

I told you not that :rolleyes: Hey... at the very least your poor reading comprehension seemed to light a fire under your butt :shrug:

Once again, congrats on getting in, but 90% of what you complain about around here is a result of your own faulty interpretations of things. Even in the thread you love to cite at every opportunity you get, I told you several times "My point is that you should not get complacent and keep working towards it" because you were telling people it was all about application strategy and it isn't really that hard to get it :thumbup: The good thing here is that I don't think someone can survive medical school with your attitude and ego. I'm not saying I think you will fail. I'm saying they will kick that out of you in a hurry once you hit the wards, and that it will be good for you :thumbup:
 
Stop wasting your money on 2nd & 3rd rate medical schools in the Caribbean,
the only ones that are real accredited in the USA are the ones in Puerto Rico,
your best second option will be to go to a DO school, end of story,

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its gunna be difficult for people to take you seriously with 1 post and slapping "attending" on your name... I'd do US DO over puerto rican schools, personally. I understand that they are not carib schools are technically are US MD, but I am not aware of them having all that outstanding of reputations. IIRC they are mostly set up to serve the puerto rican commonwealth so people from the lower 48 may have difficulty getting in there anyways... or at least would fare well at most other schools around before they were competitive there.
 
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It is true! Many Caribbean schools will take just about anyone. Caribbean schools are a business and are looking to make money, that's the way it is.
That being said, the right person CAN make it in a Carib school. The problem is, a lot of people are accepted who have no place in med school anyway, so it is no wonder the drop out rates are so high. The Caribbean route is not easy and there are a lot of hoops to jump through and a lot of learning that will have to be done on your own. They are a great option for people with a good work ethic and some brains upstairs who otherwise can't get into a traditional school for whatever reason (and there are plenty).
I am a current student at Saint James School of Medicine - I completed 16 months basic sciences on the island and have started rotations in Chicago. Here is a link to my blog: www.drnicolefox44.blogspot.com
I have been documenting the journey so feel free to check it out :)

Most Caribbean schools take anyone that is why you see people who have absolutely no business being doctors there, but there are a few schools that have stringent admissions standards when it comes to students, Saba and SGU have high caliber applicants. SGU's stats are similar to US DO students and Saba's are actually similar to US MD students, the reason Saba's are high is because Saba targets Canadians, Canadians have issues with immigration so that keeps them out of many DO programs. I heard Saba students have MCAT averages in the low 30s which is insane, but getting into medical school in Canada is ridiculous tough and most of their students are Canadian not American.

SGU is mostly an American school, many of their students could get into DO schools, but many of them so badly want to be MD, I even heard of many being accepted at DO schools and turn them down. Maybe 10 15 years ago this would not be such a huge risk, but today this would be a very bad idea.

The biggest problem today has been the financial crisis and the Affordable Care Act which has really screwed things up with regards to residency programs, before 2008, it wasn't a big deal to go overseas for medical school, but recession that hit the United States has forever changed things. And then Obama came and socialism has taken over, maybe Trump can change things back to where they once were.
 
The biggest problem today has been the financial crisis and the Affordable Care Act which has really screwed things up with regards to residency programs, before 2008, it wasn't a big deal to go overseas for medical school, but recession that hit the United States has forever changed things. And then Obama came and socialism has taken over, maybe Trump can change things back to where they once were.

Gee golly, I hope so:

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Gee golly, I hope so:

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Trump's biggest critic right now is Jeb Bush, mostly because Jeb Bush's candidacy is now completely dead, he was a shoe in to get the Republican nomination along with Scott Walker, but Trump is shaking things up.

Hilary has been mostly silent on Trump, but she knows she is going to be facing him on November 2016 and going to lose big.
 
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Also his biggest critic is anyone who is not old rich and white...aka 80% of the country

EDIT: And male
 
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