A True American Hero
5+ Year Member
- Mar 25, 2013
- Podiatry Student
well that was horrible.
That was a joke. They preach studying from USMLE, then give us an exam on lab values, innermost intercostal muscles, and how to sterilize plastic tubing. This exam is NOT an indicator of who is minimally competent or not. I would say the APMLE is minimally competent.I'm not sure what the split was, but the test was not what I was expecting...
The questions seemed to focus on things that I would say were not generally important. It just didn't represent the knowledge base of a "minimally competent" healthcare worker/podiatrist, rather it felt like a random assortment of odd facts and mixed generalities.
It will be interesting to see how its scored...
Yeah, this is the same question and argument that comes up every year.I concur. Not trying to add insult to injury but we talked about part 1 boards pretty thoroughly last year when pacpod, dtrack22, myself, dyk343 and many others took it. It was pretty much agreed upon that first aid is worthless for this test. I understand its pretty hard to NOT use it because we see our medical school colleagues live and die by it year after year. It's really unfortunate that medical school's "gold standard" is worthless to us for our board exam...or whatever you want to call "that".
Well, I guess that's true, but really, the majority of all test takers passYeah, this is the same question and argument that comes up every year.
However, dtrack22 made a good point by saying although most people say they felt it didn't help, the majority of those that use it pass.
Absolutely!i took the exam on wed as well...i studied by butt off and I honestly felt like i bombed BIG TIME!! i have no idea how to gauge my performance...everything was so random.. anyone have any thought as to how the exam is graded with the experimental/thrown out questions? also to any upperclassmen who have been thru the process before, is it normal to feel like **** after the exam?
Failing Part I the first time isn't a death blow to your chances at a residency. Giving up would be a death blow to your chances at a residency. Freaking out about the test while you wait for the results will just drive you (and probably your family) crazy. If you go back and look at the threads from each year, you'll see that most people feel like they failed when they come out of the test. Still, most people pass. For those that don't, I would still recommend pushing through and sticking with it.Regarding first aid.. I havnt been active on this site in a very long time and as is such, did not read any threads saying that first aid was a bad way to study for boards. With no exception, at my school every single student used it to study so I assumed that was what I was supposed to use. I used BRS for Physio and did BRS practice questions for Pharm, Path, and Physio.
If I need to take this exam again, here are my concerns:
-It is a total crap shoot. I studied more than I ever had in my life studying for this test, gave it 110%, what is to say that the same exact thing wont happen again. It seems like my classmates and I had totally different exams, so I am doubting the same questions will be on the thing in the fall.
-If I fail this test once I am at a huge disadvantage with getting a residency. There is already a shortage. What am I supposed to do here? I am not in the top twenty of my class, I am somewhere in the middle. What if I take this test a second time, graduate, and not get a residency because I failed? Would be in a way worse situation than if I cut my losses and dropped out now.
-What if I failed twice? This could very possibly happen seeing as there, in my opinion, is absolutely no way to study for this test. There is nothing else I could have done to study for this test and I am pretty sure I failed it.
Most of all I am just blown away that a profession that I put so much blood sweat and tears working for could have done something like this to all of us. It makes me really want to give a big F U to the field and start over, which is horrifying in itself seeing as I am nearly 30, have a family, and am in debt.
What would I do for a second career? I have no idea. Im pretty much at a total daze and loss right now.
Yeah, i'll stick to my prediction here. The test was probably like this for a reason. It's CPME way of solving the problem. I hope I am wrong.I predict this years pass rate will be about a 75%. This will open up 20 to 30 residency spots and part 2 will take care of the rest. Residency problems Solved!
Just be perfectly clear though, the CPME has nothing to do with creation, oversight or scoring of the APMLE exams.I'll go ahead and take a crack at this one....
I don't want to name names...but one of the APMLE committee members is also on the Council for the CPME...
Well, except for the fact that your reply is an implication of CPME having control over the APMLE and NBPME's composition and administration process. The above part of your post is just like when Ricky Bobby says, "With all due respect..."...not trying to imply anything inappropriate happened. Merely answering Dtrack's post...
Source?There is no convuluted scoring process to this exam. You have to answer 75% of the questions they score correctly. That number depends on how many questions are not scored/given back. Also all the matching questions are worth more points. Each correctly match item counts as one question so the actual number of questions on the test is more than 205 (more like 220 to 240).
Did you read the link posted earlier in the thread about the Angoff method and how the test is scored? Go to the APMLE website and look it up there. It has the scoring method listed.There is no convuluted scoring process to this exam. You have to answer 75% of the questions they score correctly. That number depends on how many questions are not scored/given back. Also all the matching questions are worth more points. Each correctly match item counts as one question so the actual number of questions on the test is more than 205 (more like 220 to 240).
That sounds about right from my reading of it. It's not that you are graded just based on the number of questions you get right, but it's all based on the probability that a minimally competent practitioner will get the question right. It's a little more convoluted than just a straightforward test.If I understand the angoff method! The panel rates each question by whether or not a minimally competent practioner would answer that question correctly. Each question is given a rating based on this standard by the panel. The panel members ratings for each question are added and averaged. A number is generated and converted to a %. That % is the % of the number of questions a minimally competent practioner should be able to answer for that test. For our test that is 75%. Now after the test is over they flag all those questions that performed poorly and determine if they should keep or drop and I suppose the number of questions that 75% represents is revised.