justafluff
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I PM’d with her in the BoWWnty game, I can attest that we never reached 2 pages
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I PM’d with her in the BoWWnty game, I can attest that we never reached 2 pages
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do you think Mel would do this with pack?
April that’s completely incorrect. I’ve been arguing with Zenge for a while now and have made several posts explaining why I thought he was a wolf. I don’t see how anyone can say that I’m his packmate.
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It was just a question
AM does have a blind spot for Zenge. I think that’s an accurate statement to make. Even just her trying to claim him as an offspring through his marriage to shorty. But that’s not the only thing that’s stood out to me as incredibly odd about her play this game. It’s way more about her gameplay and how she’s misconstrued what’s happening on thread multiple times now.
justafluff
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Your pings are really confusing to me… alleycat has been in the center of discussion all day yesterday along with Zenge, but you “forget” about her?
Along with your reluctance to vote Mel and bring violet again in the spotlight, you’re either thinking way out of the box or it’s wolfy AF.
Before I forget: I’m going to play AM’s favorite card to play
If I was a wolf I wouldn’t have killed Dubz N1. Yeah Visc was in her wolf reads but zenge and I were deep village and WZ likes to claim a zenge reading card. We could have ridden than for days.
Plus after the birthday kill and the D1 last minute wagon I pulled on her, she’d never forgive me
If I was a wolf I wouldn’t have killed Dubz N1. Yeah Visc was in her wolf reads but zenge and I were deep village and WZ likes to claim a zenge reading card. We could have ridden than for days.
Plus after the birthday kill and the D1 last minute wagon I pulled on her, she’d never forgive me
justafluff
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I’ve liked her gameplay a lot and it never stroke me as wolfy. What I never understood was her insists on voting meats. It made me sus of meats but I shouldn’t have been. @Animal Midwife im not sure if you addressed this but why meats over mel/ vis or others until now?
Imma be honest, I don’t think I’m even mad about about a Mel yeet. I’m just also happy with my fluff vote I think, especially with this unknown Mel yeetable situation
justafluff
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But in the same logic, if AM was a wolf she’d have fought the pack to not kill DubZ on N1? I’m not sure who said that but it’s been mentioned before
I think the reads she posted was back from D2? I’m not sure I completely understand her point about forgetting me, but I was a lot less present on like D2 b/c of school than I have been more recently.
Can you point out where you see that? You and Mel have mentioned it multiple times but I haven't seen a single quote pulled to support it other than her Zenge soft clear
justafluff
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Oh gotcha. I thought it was her overall reads of everyone.
Mel brought that up, but off of the fact that Dubz just modded the noob game. I could see AM honoring that or being okay with the Dubz kill since Dubz was hardcore wolfreading Vis.
And since we had the bounty game technically in between the noob game and this game, which Dubz played, I could see AM not actually “honoring” the recent modding since there was a game since the noob game.
I don’t think the NK of Dubz incriminates AM or exonerates her
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I got into a couple of squirmishes with her throughout this game. I know that’s not super helpful, but I’m in class rn playing so I can’t really pull it up while I’m on mobile. I did “pull quotes” when I directly responded to her and questioned her about things that made no sense to me.
One thing that stands out to me is her adamantly refusing to name someone who was her top wolf read. She just provided a broad POE and wouldn’t tell me who in it was the wolfiest. Plus the misconstruing of “most” people reading fluffy as village (which wasn’t true) and even the more recent mixup of pshelty and puppy with the vig shot on VMH claim. I believe there were several things Mel and Sporty saw too
Zenge voted you several minutes after Vis moved onto self-prezzing. Meaning you had a grand total of one (1) vote at EOD.
It's not a village tell. You have said RVS regardless of your affiliation. You also called out multiple people for nonexistent RVS when, as pointed out at the time, it was only Vis and Lawpy (who happened to be voting for you). This was just the first instance of you having a conclusion disconnected with the threadstate.
Sure. Putting post numbers since ISOs are buggy.
#507, #1276, #1300, #1555, #1607, #1711, #1981, #2781, #2977, #3181, #3195, #3213, #3215, #3421 (nothing mentioned about kal being villagey nor Vis being a wolf)
Bonus: #3692
That's interesting considering all quotes except for one during this timeline still push kal over Vis.
I said that. I was considering this the next game after the noob game but apparently there have been other games that Dubz played in since, so the theory that AM wouldn’t let the pack kill Dubz N1 on a modding pass holds no water for me anymore
I stand corrected, you’re pushing an NAI tell as wolfy.
Someone check these posts while I’m mobile to see if it’s actually me defending or just me saying YK is wolfier than Visc because of my suspicions about YK hiding her vote protection.
The number one issue with all of this is you're excluding that I was also high on dubz's village list. So if that really excludes you from being a wolf, then that makes me proven village as well.
Unless... maybe that's not a real clear.
justafluff
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I wouldn’t hold it against her that she confused puppy and PSV.
I remember your discussion with her about her POE, but since she’s shared it several times, and given her integrity, I can see that as AM being stubborn.
I actually really appreciate that she defended me. Most people were reading me neutral rather than village.
Ppl reading me village off the top of my head: True, DubZ, AM, Lawpy, and later Violet, Blue and maybe PSV (?)
I think she was mostly attacking the fact that you’re reading me wolfy.
Others who found me wolfy and have voted for me are: Vis, Zenge, Mel, sporty, puppydogtor
Meats's positioning on POE members bothered me. She kept POEing people I was village reading and giving Mel a pass. Turns out she was just pocketed, but it's was difficult to distinguish between that and active buddying.
justafluff
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Honestly, same. I was bothered that Mel and vis defended her so much. Alley too, but she was her PM partner… YK is still giving Mel a pass despite Mel pushing a YK vote on D3.
As of right now, I believe your tracking claim since it was 1x use and N2 was the only night where we had duplicate tracking. I follow your logic and I get why you would've chosen me as your tracking target. Zenge was the other person besides myself pushing you hard early in the game, and I don't really see him doing that as extreme as he did if you're his packmate. I don't think it clears you 100%, but I am reading you as village right now.
BTW, people can village read you as a wolf and as a villager, and if they're a wolf they can push you as a misyeet. Just because she defended you does not clear her as a villager. If she is a wolf, she knows your affilation and can defend you and get you to village read her since she's defending you. If you're village reading her solely because she defended you, then she's pocketing you.
I was right about Meats and about Zenge. I was also right about Vis, as she was in my wolf reads the entire game. Are my reads perfect? No. I defended VMH because nobody could actually explain to me what was so wolfy about her, and nothing she had done in PMs or on thread actually seemed as wolfy as AM claimed it was.
Mel and AM's interactions are striking me very strongly as v/w. AM is either doing exceptionally strong powerwolfing or she isn't a wolf. Personally, unless Mel flips village, I'm inclined to believe it's the latter. However, I'm working myself into a frenzy over the possibility of a failed yeet today so I'm at a bit of an impasse with whether or not we should go for the Mel yeet.
I can't find a good way to search those posts right now but I can come back to them later.
Who was she pocketed by? Vis and Zenge? Mel? Mel hasn't flipped so you can't actually state that she was pocketed.
And we’re here
Do you think fluffy vs zenges is W/W?
AM hates wolfing, but she's actually really good at it. The fact that she's gotten this far without much scrutiny is proof that she's a strong wolf.
I am not sure what to do about the Mel situation. I believe his claim and I personally think that he is village. I think y'all are going to attempt to yeet him tonight, and I don't think it will work. YK confirmed that the ability he has is in the game, and they described it in the same manner. I don't know if it is a wolfy power or a village power though, because it could go either way. We have to decide whether or not he actually used the ability today or if he's actually using it tomorrow, and that is the hard part for me.
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I can totally relate to this. I had VMH on my wolf list for a while for my own reasons, but seeing them on AM's list definitely influenced me when it shouldn't have.
I feel this. I think I'm sticking with Mel today, but if Mel is village then I will certainly be looking into AM next
justafluff
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The reason I’m asking April is because of something @potentialsheltervet hinted. PSV I don’t want to call out people but what do you think about the friend True had with him when he got killed?
I literally did. We've been over this already.
It was true. Lo and behold Zenge was trying to capitalize on the situation. Mel trying to get on there last second is what bothered me too.
I don't know what other things you're referring to but I don't see how confusing shelter/puppy can be anything but NAI.
I can't find the post but I remember Mel at one point saying "If I'm wrong you can yeet me tomorrow" which is bugging me because it's either being truthful with the goal of tripping us up (Mel used the ability and it's protecting him today) or he's hoping we'll believe him for the shiggles (he's protecting himself tomorrow).
Hmm 🤔
After the vissy flip
I’m not sure. I haven’t looked at interactions at all.
I'm conflicted. I'm thinking it's talking about Mel having protected him D2 from the yeet but Mel's protection not extending to NKs from wolves. It could be talking about something else but it would make sense to me.
I might be willing to yeet Alley today if some people feel particularly strongly about avoiding Mel
Lawpy pls share your thoughts with the class
How are you reading Alley right now?
alleys pls it looked like you had zenges in your village reads and began expressing doubts on him after the vissy flip. While it’s true others were reading zenges villagey, i’m not sure how this shows how you were reading zenges wolf when no one else did
justafluff
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Thank you for that. I might be changing my vote to YK then… I don’t know : /
Still wolfy imo. I think alleys vs zenges was a weird form of distancing
But why YK? Am I getting my timeline wrong?
Was true's death N2 or N3?
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This would mean vissy was actively bussing YK hard since D1 and idk how to feel about that.
Okay yeah I was wrong. I went back and it looks like True died N3 and Mel would've protected him D3 then, so could've still protected YK D2.
So if that's the reason you're planning to yeet YK @justafluff don't do it because I misremembered.
So if that's the reason you're planning to yeet YK @justafluff don't do it because I misremembered.
justafluff
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N2.
You said something about April that would conflict with what Mel is claiming. That’s what I’m trying to figure out
YK because she’s pushing a violet vote out of nowhere. But if Mel’s innocent, then a YK vote doesn’t make sense.
@youngkal Mel claims he protected you but you re probably wolf and that vis blocked you so that you can have village cred. Yet you still avoid voting for Mel. Why is that??
justafluff
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True died N2. Stoat died N3. We are on D4 now.
Only? Good grief lol.
So Mel never was able to protect True since True died before that day cycle?
I am really, really trying not to reveal someone else's role so sorry if I'm being dodgy.
