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Nah, you posted multiple times again in this same thread on the first page insinuating the same thing you were in your original post.
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Caribbean + Genius = ?
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Nah, you posted multiple times again in this same thread on the first page insinuating the same thing you were in your original post.
I'm not going to answer this question because you asked it 3 times already. You do realize that if you actually dedicated a few months and retook that MCAT and got a 35+, you would be competitive for a lot of top tier MD schools. 27 is below average at pretty much all US MD schools and barely average at DO. Seriously, if you would put some damn effort into your education, you would have a decent shot at a Top 20 school likely. Now, you will suffer from your laziness. Also, you should probably stop talking and looking for validation which nobody I repeat NOBODY on here is going to give you.
Let's say that you go on to enroll in the best Caribbean medical school (pick one, I'm sure any of them will take you).
Let's say your genius finally shines through and you score 255 on Step 1.
How will a Program Director interpret this data?
What are the likely reasons for a person who could get that score attending a Carib school?
Hint: it isn't a pretty differential.
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As @gyngyn mentioned, schools don't only look at your numbers as an indication of how well your performance is, but they can make inferences based on certain decisions you made. If there's one damn person on this thread you should listen to, it's @gyngyn or @Goro. They are admissions officers themselves and they will tell you how wrong you are.
Just go to the Caribbean.
Stop asking us to encourage you.
Stop asking us to encourage you.
This...is a bit misinformed.
A 35/3.6 is a below average LizzyM for many, if not all, of the Top 20, especially with a prior 27 as many schools average the scores together. If all there is on the rest of his app is some halfhearted volunteering, plus probably no good letter sources and no mention of research...he'd be lucky to get one or two interviews at schools well below Top 20.
For some DOs a 3.6/27 is meh but at others it's a good step above their median. He should (if he isn't just an awesome troll) go for the DOs that his stats can carry him into >>> Carib.
Top 20 was a bit of an exaggeration lol.
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Just for reference, here is a compilation of median MCAT scores for the top 20:
37, 37, 36, 35, 38, 38, 37, 36, 35, 37, 31, 37, 34, 37, 37, 36, 35, 37, 37, 37
The <36 scores are UCSF, Duke, UWash, UCLA, and UCSD respectively.
Median GPAs all hover between 3.80 and 3.95. Excluding UWash, as that isn't likely an option for OP anyway, the lowest possible LizzyM score is 72. So yes, 35/3.6 (71) is below every Top 20 school except for UWash.
I work at a hospital and once asked a pizza delivery guy for a ride home because the bus system had gotten stalled.
He and I ended up doing a lot of talking, and he discussed how he got kicked out of a Caribbean med school because he was
"smart and knew what it took to be a doctor but just didn't apply himself because the classes were boring."
Really nice guy, but it's eerie how similar his story sounds to what I presume to be the beginning of yours.
Anyway good luck in the Caribbean. I think it's a really good idea.
He and I ended up doing a lot of talking, and he discussed how he got kicked out of a Caribbean med school because he was
"smart and knew what it took to be a doctor but just didn't apply himself because the classes were boring."
Really nice guy, but it's eerie how similar his story sounds to what I presume to be the beginning of yours.
Anyway good luck in the Caribbean. I think it's a really good idea.
Yeah, and that's the Top 20 USNews Research. Top 20 by LizzyM last year were
76.5, 76.3, 75.7, 75.2, 75.1, 75.0, 74.9, 74.5, 74.3, 74.1, 74.0, 74.0, 73.9, 73.8, 73.8, 73.7, 73.5, 73.5, 73.5, 73.1
This has got to be a troll thread. That or narcissistic personality disorder.
Nah, he's just regular conceited and regular in denial. Not quite full blown personality disorder
Well, to be fair a lot of people are arrogant dinguses because they have insanely impressive stats and resumes. This is just the rare case of an arrogant dingus with absolutely nothing even good going for him
You should never label someone with a disorder because of bad behavior. There are honestly people who cannot control it.
I second this.
:troll:
pff, the preclinical years are cake. You study -> you learn the material -> you get the grade you deserve.
Third year you get to work your ass off and as your entire grade is a subjective evaluation by some catty OBGyn about how much "enthusiasm" you put into doing a vaginal exam in a 350 lb non-English speaking woman who happens to be menstruating.
/with apologies to gyngyn. I'm sure you're awesome and objective... 😎
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No one ever said this was for the faint of heart.
If I apply myself, bring up my GPA with 2 semesters, study for and retake the MCAT, will I have a decent shot at a US MD school? I do have 1 publication and 1 strong rec letter, but that's about it for ECs. And I see that most schools require a minimum of 5 letters :O
Get more letters, volunteer at a hospital, get some shadowing, retake that MCAT for a 35 or even a 40+, and you will have a shot.
Just lose the ego. It will not help you at all.
Yes
Eh, I actually liked what I got to do on that rotation (I learned better surgical technique than when I was on surgery). What I hated was the fact that I was considered "unprofessional" for watching sports highlights at 4am on my laptop during a night that the OB floor had 2/14 beds full while the all female resident crew read fashion blogs.
Seriously, the point stands. If you have a low bullsh-t tolerance, med school is not for you.
Umm...? New MCAT?
What would be good on the new MCAT for US MD?
Poor @mimelim is seriously facepalming now. To do him justice, below are his excellent posts that should be stickied in the Caribbean forums to inform the uninformed.
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If I applied right now to DO, how likely is it that I'd get accepted?
They do.
You're not as smart as you think you are.
Also, medical school and being a physician involve a lot of boring stuff. You're not ready.
Schools do not require 5 letters minimum...
@ComputerGuy365 rein it in buddy. Advice like "Just score 99.9th percentile on the MCAT and you can go MD!" shows off your nonexistent experience with the MCAT and the collegiate premed game
@ComputerGuy365 rein it in buddy. Advice like "Just score 99.9th percentile on the MCAT and you can go MD!" shows off your nonexistent experience with the MCAT and the collegiate premed game
Pretty good with a pub and your stats, especially at the lower DO's with median MCATs 24-27
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If you can fake being selfaware and humble? Quite decent
I would ask @Goro for a list. I would say your chances are good.
Isn't that what I said? Either he is deliberately trying to to get a rise out of people, or he genuinely can't see what's wrong with what he's saying.
I didn't look at it that way lol.
Ok so...I guess my questions shifts to this...how bad will it be to have a DO instead of an MD? Would it just get a few bad looks from colleagues or would it prevent me from getting a decent job/residency?
Imagine what you could do if you actually tried...
So why not actually try it?
If you started at a Caribbean school next month, by the time you actually get a residency, you'd be no later in the process than if you spend the extra three years actually preparing for medical school.
You say you're wicked smart.
Your behavior says otherwise.
It's time to show a little initiative and go do some searching on your own.
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Leave this forum, and go handle this on your own. We've done all we can in these last 90+ posts.
Alright alright alright. Ok. Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the advice.
Ah. Either way, it's possible.
To OP - if you aren't in fact trolling - don't take the risk of going to a medical school with inherent handicaps when you haven't proven if you can really apply yourself. It's one thing to think you can do it, and it's another to have something to back it up.
I'm going to compare your situation to a one night stand.
She looks really attractive, she's got tits, a nice smile, even an attractive personality as a bonus.
For some odd reason, she's really attracted to you. She wants you, so you say heck, I'll do it, surely nothing bad will happen to ME. People have done it , they've made it out alright, so will I!
At first, it goes really great. You love it. She's excited, you're excited. FINALLY, all of this buildup and you have gotten something you once dreamed about.
It ends. She's gone the next day, life goes on. You forget about it.
Before you know it, sometime later, you get this pain in your crotch, a massive outbreak of sores, and you have to go see the doctor. Tests come back, you've got the clap.
Here's a summary in case you weren't following.
This girl is the Caribbean, she's pretending she's interested because she wants satisfaction or is getting over something. In this case, the school wants your money. It's a pretty attractive deal because you like sex and women, otherwise known as an MD degree.
The time period after the initial "encounter" (your admission), where you go about living normally, is the first two years at a Caribbean school.
Now that STD test is your Step 1 score. No one wants to match with you anymore.
She looks really attractive, she's got tits, a nice smile, even an attractive personality as a bonus.
For some odd reason, she's really attracted to you. She wants you, so you say heck, I'll do it, surely nothing bad will happen to ME. People have done it , they've made it out alright, so will I!
At first, it goes really great. You love it. She's excited, you're excited. FINALLY, all of this buildup and you have gotten something you once dreamed about.
It ends. She's gone the next day, life goes on. You forget about it.
Before you know it, sometime later, you get this pain in your crotch, a massive outbreak of sores, and you have to go see the doctor. Tests come back, you've got the clap.
Here's a summary in case you weren't following.
This girl is the Caribbean, she's pretending she's interested because she wants satisfaction or is getting over something. In this case, the school wants your money. It's a pretty attractive deal because you like sex and women, otherwise known as an MD degree.
The time period after the initial "encounter" (your admission), where you go about living normally, is the first two years at a Caribbean school.
Now that STD test is your Step 1 score. No one wants to match with you anymore.
Listen bud, I was in your shoes at one point hoping to burn through med school as quickly as possible, which is the vibe I'm picking up from all your questions. In hindsight, the much wiser decision is to take your time and make sure you apply with your strongest possible application. Being a doctor with a carribean degree at 25 over a US MD or DO at 28 is insane... young doctors get older and the Doogie Howser boy genius novelty disappears. You know what doesn't change? The school on your diploma. Do it once and do it right.
This question has been answered countless times across multiple threads you have started. You clearly either didn't care enough to read the responses, or lack the intelligence to understand them. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think the Caribbean is too good for you. Medicine is not for you, period. If you want people to blow smoke up your a** for not doing anything, go become a chiropractor (you get to wear a white coat and everything!)
Chiropractors have DC or something, Caribs have MD. It's all about the MD imho.
@Goro maybe you should just let these kids go to the Caribbean...I really don't think they would add much to the DO communityAdvertisement - Members don't see this ad
