CCM saturation

[gulmohr]

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Cross-posting from the PCCM fellowship thread. Have also seen talk of CCM job saturation in some markets. Attached PDF states excess of 4100 jobs in 12 years.

Thoughts?

 

[psychbender]

I don't think I buy it. I've been at my place for five years, and there was only a single few month period where we weren't trying to hire more CCM physicians, and relying on locums or direct contract prns to fill in the schedule. Further, in that same time period, I've had colleagues leave for fulltime pulmonary, retire, or go from fulltime CC to half-time CC.

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

With bills like these that allow foreign doctors to practice without residency, every specialty is going to be saturated within 2-5 years anyway

More States Cut Training Requirements for Some International Medical Graduates

Alternative pathways to licensing for IMGs spreads beyond Tennessee

www.medpagetoday.com

 

[tartesos]

Turnover is high so it’s difficult to predict.
If I could I would “retire” right effing now at 45.

 

[deleted1183938]

With bills like these that allow foreign doctors to practice without residency, every specialty is going to be saturated within 2-5 years anyway

More States Cut Training Requirements for Some International Medical Graduates

Alternative pathways to licensing for IMGs spreads beyond Tennessee

www.medpagetoday.com

Nah. Those people have to get credentialed. And as someone who’s done locums for a while credentialing is a pain in the rear with some crazy rules in place. I bet most hospitals won’t credential them.

 

[bronx43]

Nah. Those people have to get credentialed. And as someone who’s done locums for a while credentialing is a pain in the rear with some crazy rules in place. I bet most hospitals won’t credential them.

Have you met the bean counters at the typical American hospital?
As long as these foreign grads have a stamp of approval from a "big name" institution (which is what the proposal is for), they're going to get credentialed.

 

[deleted1183938]

Have you met the bean counters at the typical American hospital?
As long as these foreign grads have a stamp of approval from a "big name" institution (which is what the proposal is for), they're going to get credentialed.

Except credentialing committees are made up of docs. Many of them who are old school and literally make up one rule fits all model that doesn’t work on every scenario. So dumb. Guess I need to read the proposal but the one I am familiar with was the FMGs working with a certain doctor for something like three years and then getting their stamp of approval. Not necessarily a big name institution.

 

[bronx43]

Except credentialing committees are made up of docs. Many of them who are old school and literally make up one rule fits all model that doesn’t work on every scenario. So dumb. Guess I need to read the proposal but the one I am familiar with was the FMGs working with a certain doctor for something like three years and then getting their stamp of approval. Not necessarily a big name institution.

At least in the metro areas, committee docs are just docs who are mostly admin. Most have absolutely no loyalty to the profession and think and act like admin.
The bill that passed in TN required IMGs to work under a hospital with an accredited residency. Certainly some may be smaller systems but once the big players like Vandy open up this pathway, it’ll only be time before it becomes industry standard.