Chances of getting into IVYs with a 22 AA?

[bkthmusic]

What are my chances for the Ivys? How about other competetive schools (I prefer urban)
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Date of submission: applying next cycle (rising junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended: CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: chemistry
Minority? Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non clinical (women in need organization, animal shelter, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at general practices, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and published and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Peer mentor and ambassador at my school pre health advising club, Vice President at research club at my school, student admission ambassador at my club. Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (4 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (3 science professors, 2 dentist, one non science, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list: Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, U of Pacific, UCSF, Rutgers, NYU, Touro, LECOM (might add more later, but I prefer urban schools)

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[Ryxndek]

anything possible, but might help to fill out a full WAMC template to give us a better idea of your application. Apply early and see if you can do any events with the school to get your name in admissions

 

[macsak]

What are my chances to for the Ivys? How about other competetive schools (I prefer urban)
DAT 22 AA/23 TS/ 25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR, 4.0 GPA rising junior

I’m gonna apply next cycle. I have award winning dry research (presentation), 2.5 yrs of continuous dental assistant, lots of volunteering (clinical and non-clinical) and shadowing, am on the eboard of a club and ambassador/mentor at my school, admissions ambassador and also a math tutor. I have a 2-year fellowship at a career development program, getting a committee letter from my school.
So I’m really discouraged by my score… I was always scoring higher and never scored this low on any practice test.
Btw I’m a NY resident.
Any advice is appreciated.

of course people get in with 22aa/23ts

fill out a full WAMC template...

 

[bkthmusic]

anything possible, but might help to fill out a full WAMC template to give us a better idea of your application. Apply early and see if you can do any events with the school to get your name in admissions

I just updated my post, I would appreciate if you could take a look again please.

 

[bkthmusic]

of course people get in with 22aa/23ts

fill out a full WAMC template...

I just updated my post, I would appreciate if you could take a look again please.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

When did you submit your application? If we are only focused on metrics, you have a chance. Do you have any other networking aside from the UPenn virtual event? Columbia doesn't do anything (they did whenever I visited for recruitment events they hosted for dental school recruiters)???

What do you have in common with UCLA, UCSF, and UoP? As a NY resident with your stats, what is your specific mission fit with them? What is your research all about? If you are talking committee letter now, how is your prehealth advising team helping you become a stronger applicant for the Ivys?

Is getting into a brand school the only thing that is important to you as a dentist?

 

[bkthmusic]

When did you submit your application? If we are only focused on metrics, you have a chance. Do you have any other networking aside from the UPenn virtual event? Columbia doesn't do anything (they did whenever I visited for recruitment events they hosted for dental school recruiters)???

What do you have in common with UCLA, UCSF, and UoP? As a NY resident with your stats, what is your specific mission fit with them?

Is getting into a brand school the only thing that is important to you as a dentist?

I will apply next cycle. Honestly, I have been to tabling events held by med and dental schools but Columbia didn’t have a dental table. I will definitely look into volunteering or shadowing with them in the future.
I am very interested in pursuing further research in dental school (specifically in the oncology field) and I also look for a school that gives me a well rounded knowledge and clinical experience.
Getting into a brand school is not all that matters to me. I really care that I get a great education and gain a lot of clinical experience. It is great if a school can offer clinical from the first year. Getting research in dental school is also of my interest.

 

[macsak]

When did you submit your application? If we are only focused on metrics, you have a chance. Do you have any other networking aside from the UPenn virtual event? Columbia doesn't do anything (they did whenever I visited for recruitment events they hosted for dental school recruiters)???

What do you have in common with UCLA, UCSF, and UoP? As a NY resident with your stats, what is your specific mission fit with them? What is your research all about? If you are talking committee letter now, how is your prehealth advising team helping you become a stronger applicant for the Ivys?

Is getting into a brand school the only thing that is important to you as a dentist?

OP is applying next cycle...

 

[macsak]

What are my chances for the Ivys? How about other competetive schools (I prefer urban)
.
Date of submission: applying next cycle (rising junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA/23 TS/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended: CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: chemistry
Minority? Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non clinical (women in need organization, animal shelter, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at general practices, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and published and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Peer mentor and ambassador at my school pre health advising club, Vice President at research club at my school, student admission ambassador at my club. Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (4 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (3 science professors, 2 dentist, one non science, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list: Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, U of Pacific, UCSF, Rutgers, NYU, Touro, LECOM (might add more later, but I prefer urban schools)

why not buffalo?

 

[bkthmusic]

why not buffalo?

I don’t appreciate the location. Based on my personal experience, I get depressed living in suburban areas…

 

[Mr.Smile12]

I would be very surprised if dental school curricula offer you strong clinical experiences in the first year. They exist, but you need to ask about what the D1's do in performing exams for cavities and putting sealants on.

If you want urban, then pick urban schools. With those metrics, you can pick where you want to go, but you need to be sure that's where you want to be over four years. That means: why not BU and Tufts since you already have Harvard on the list? Why not Temple since you have Penn on the list? What's wrong with Stony Brook??? That's too suburban? UCSF and UoP are definitely urban if you really want to go cross-country to a more expensive place to live than Manhattan/NYC. Detroit Mercy is definitely urban and will serve a strong Muslim diaspora. Similarly, Buffalo, Marquette, and CWRU are pretty urban (just not Manhattan urban) compared to true suburban/college campuses like Louisville, Ohio State, Ann Arbor/Michigan, Colorado, and Kentucky (IMO). I also don't really consider LECOM as urban, so I don't know why you listed them.

You must also really look at cost of attendance and figure out how you are going to pay for all that schooling, commuting, and living. No one is guaranteed a scholarship unless you go for HPSP or NHSC, which on face value do not seem to align with your desire to be a dentist. You also need to think hard about how competitive the market will be when you graduate if you insist on practicing in a highly saturated market like the ones where you have picked where to practice... unless you want to do academic dentistry, which isn't going to earn you as much money to payback (until you hit the conditions of loan repayment programs).

Your goal this year is to network and make the schools want you. Check with ASDA and SNDA chapters to get a sense of their student support and communities to be sure that's really where you want to be.

 

[SuxDrugs&Rocuronium]

Urban schools generally = high tuition and high COL. I’d rather have picked a different career than go to dental school in one of those places.

 

[macsak]

What are my chances for the Ivys? How about other competetive schools (I prefer urban)
.
Date of submission: applying next cycle (rising junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA/23 TS/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended: CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: chemistry
Minority? Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non clinical (women in need organization, animal shelter, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at general practices, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and published and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Peer mentor and ambassador at my school pre health advising club, Vice President at research club at my school, student admission ambassador at my club. Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (4 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (3 science professors, 2 dentist, one non science, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list: Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, U of Pacific, UCSF, Rutgers, NYU, Touro, LECOM (might add more later, but I prefer urban schools)

how are you non-trad?

 

[bkthmusic]

how are you non-trad?

I graduated high school in 2016

 

[Rainbowsheep5]

I'm a D4 at one of the schools you listed. DM if you want to chat.

 

[macsak]

I graduated high school in 2016

when did you graduate from college?

 

[bkthmusic]

when did you graduate from college?

I’m a rising junior

 

[macsak]

I’m a rising junior

what did you do between graduating high school and starting college?

 

[bkthmusic]

what did you do between graduating high school and starting college?

I was back in my home country, Iran, until 2020. I used ti go to Nursing school there but when my immigration visa was processed, I dropped out and came here. I worked at retail for 9 months and then started school. I preferred not to continue nursing school because it wasn’t my passion

 

[macsak]

What are my chances for the Ivys? How about other competetive schools (I prefer urban)
.
Date of submission: applying next cycle (rising junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 22 AA/23 TS/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended: CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: chemistry
Minority? Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non clinical (women in need organization, animal shelter, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at general practices, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and published and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Peer mentor and ambassador at my school pre health advising club, Vice President at research club at my school, student admission ambassador at my club. Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (4 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (3 science professors, 2 dentist, one non science, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list: Columbia, Harvard, UPenn, UCLA, U of Pacific, UCSF, Rutgers, NYU, Touro, LECOM (might add more later, but I prefer urban schools)

first of all, look at available databases to see the range of dat scores for each year for each school
this will tell you if people get into ivies with 22aa/23ts

realize that your school list contains 6 of the 8-10 most difficult to get into dental schools in the country
this means that any GPA/DAT is not a guaranteed acceptance, or even an interview
that said, your stats and ECs are outstanding, and you will likely get at least a few interviews with that school list...

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

realize that your school list contains 6 of the 8-10 most difficult to get into dental schools in the country
this means that any GPA/DAT is not a guaranteed acceptance, or even an interview

This.

Big Hoss

 

[bkthmusic]

Omg, same from hunter college, your gpa is amazing!

Oh what a coincidence! Thank you! Good luck with your application