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the Lord gives and the Lord takes away
Dr2010 said:i dont think you could be more wrong. The truths found in the old testament speak volumes about the character and nature of God's person, applicable to all christians and jews. Furthermore, the prophecies fulfilled in the new testament are meaningless without the old testament to show there basis. The countless characters and events in the stories of the old testament tell alot about who God is and how we can come to know him better, its not just the torah.
Shredder said:the Lord gives and the Lord takes away
bewitched1081 said:"Have faith in God," Jesus answered. "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
Mark 11: 22-24
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.
Philippians 4:6
tigress said:I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread, but I'm bored. So you do realize that there are no prophesies in the "Old Testament" that are fulfilled by the New? If I could prove that to you in Hebrew, would that mean the New Testament is meaningless (your word)?
(Seriously, people are entitled to their beliefs. It just bugs me when people take my holy book and mis-translate and mis-interpret it to justify their beliefs, and in the process say my own are no longer valid)
tigress said:I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread, but I'm bored. So you do realize that there are no prophesies in the "Old Testament" that are fulfilled by the New? If I could prove that to you in Hebrew, would that mean the New Testament is meaningless (your word)?
(Seriously, people are entitled to their beliefs. It just bugs me when people take my holy book and mis-translate and mis-interpret it to justify their beliefs, and in the process say my own are no longer valid)
drlexygoat said:Go read somewhere else.
If you don't like christian material, don't click on a thread that reads "Christian Bible Quotes."
radioh3ad said:C.S. Lewis:
"The term is over: the holidays have begun. The dream is ended: this is the morning."
erin682 said:"Surprised by Joy" right. I love that book. Its one of my favorites.
radioh3ad said:actually it's not. i don't want to give this one away.
the quote in itself might not mean much to anyone if they haven't gone through seemingly meaningless and hopeless hardships.
erin682 said:Right yeah I figured out where that one's from now. I knew I recognized it. It is a really good quote. I love his Shadowlands philosophy.
Tigress in fact there are a prophesies in the OT that were fulfilled in the NT. Take the birth of Jesus for example. Isaih prophesied it in Isaiah 7:14:
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Immanuel is another name for Christians for Jesus. He is Emmanuel, God with us, The Messiah, the Promised One. There are a lot more of those but thats just one example for you.
You just responded to a post from 2006.You do know that that's entirely based on a mis-translation, right? The people who wrote the gospels were working from the Septuagint, which was a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible. The term used in Hebrew was "almah" which means young woman, not virgin ( which would be "betulah"). This was translated into Greek using the term "parthenon" which can mean either a young woman or a virgin, and was obviously mistaken to mean virgin by the gospel writers. The virgin birth was described in order to fit a "prophecy" which never existed in the first place.
You can call Jesus Emmanuel if you want to, but that won't make the text in Isaiah refer to a virgin or to Jesus.
If you actually read the chapter in Isaiah, it's quite clear that he was referring to a contemporary woman who would give birth shortly.
Read the books by Bart Ehrmann.
It was on the front page...not their fault. The 10yr old thread was intentionally resurrected, I guess so they could move their discussion here instead of continuing to derail other threads with this subject. If they have also resurrected the debates that this thread sparked when it was first made, well...that was also something they knowingly brought backYou just responded to a post from 2006.
Lol, I was just teasing. Not long ago, I responded to one of @Tired's posts from like 2007, knowing full well that it was a post from 8 years ago or soIt was on the front page...not their fault. The 10yr old thread was intentionally resurrected, I guess so they could move their discussion here instead of continuing to derail other threads with this subject. If they have also resurrected the debates that this thread sparked when it was first made, well...that was also something they knowingly brought back
do you mean allah?
go preach somewhere else
When i am lost and need guidance there are a few passages i feel I can always turn to..
"The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16 NLT)
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all ? old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
I think it is a grave error to equate the old testament with Christian beliefs. After all, the OT is basically the Torah. I really wish Christian bibles did away with it because it completely contradicts the teachings of Christ.
I love you."The women are to keep silent in assemblies; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, just as the Law also says.
If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible passages always inspire something in me!
"The women are to keep silent in assemblies; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, just as the Law also says.
If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible passages always inspire something in me!
MJ is always allowed to necromance.
Bad Mother#$@# LOL"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
-Ezekiel 25:17
"The women are to keep silent in assemblies; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves, just as the Law also says.
If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible passages always inspire something in me!
Oh exactly! The context (and underlying assumptions which drive it) is definitely one source of my inspiration when reading these passages! In fact, upon reading your link I became even more inspired than before!In order to understand the Bible properly we have to look at the context of the situation. I am glad you did that and understand the text
http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/interpretations-applications-1-cor-14_34-35/
Hey now, they're clearly newer to forums than you'd think from the post count, but they are tactful enough. Personal attacks will get you in needless trouble.just because your prophet can be resurrected doesn't mean an 11 year old thread should be.
also, @PREDOCSIMP is the worst poster ever.
Hey now, they're clearly newer to forums than you'd think from the post count, but they are tactful enough. Personal attacks will get you in needless trouble.
@PREDOCSIMP Same person to call me a bigot for saying he shouldn't equate a persons identity of being homosexual to a simple preference.. Not much tact thereHey now, they're clearly newer to forums than you'd think from the post count, but they are tactful enough. Personal attacks will get you in needless trouble.
@PREDOCSIMP Same person to call me a bigot for saying he shouldn't equate a persons identity of being homosexual to a simple preference.. Not much tact there
In order to understand the Bible properly we have to look at the context of the situation. I am glad you did that and understand the text
http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/interpretations-applications-1-cor-14_34-35/
It's all about context. In the context of a thread revolving around religion, small things tend to blow up waayyyyyy faster.calling someone "the worst poster ever" is a personal attack? are you new to the internet?
I was going on immediate context...I don't have the mental fortitude to delve into the post history of everyone I talk to on here.@PREDOCSIMP Same person to call me a bigot for saying he shouldn't equate a persons identity of being homosexual to a simple preference.. Not much tact there
It's all about context. In the context of a thread revolving around religion, small things tend to blow up waayyyyyy faster.
Calling someone the worst poster ever? Generally not a TOS issue.
Calling someone the worst poster ever for enthusing about their religion in a thread where doing so is sanctioned? Pricklier than usual.
I always figure, if you're going to get in trouble, it should at least be for a really good or funny post! You probably won't have issues, but...why risk it over something that tapioca?