Christian Bible Quotes for Pre-med Inspiration

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May His Spirit remain in you and you in Him.

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Yet it was the Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer [. . .] After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied [. . .]
Isaiah 53: 10-11
 
Originally posted by bewitched1081
Yet it was the Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer [. . .] After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied [. . .]
Isaiah 53: 10-11

You had to bump this, didn't you? LOL
 
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Not a bible quote, but one of the best things I've ever heard nevertheless:

"And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of Song
with nothing on my tongue but 'Hallelujah!'"

Leonard Cohen
 
this thread is for pre allo christians, so it's ok to keep it here. of course it's not for everyone just like all the other threads here (eg, schools that you have not applied to). The OP was not trying to start anything but rather just give comforting advice to his/her fellow colleagues. nothing to get upset over
 
The Bible has some shocking stuff, check out 1 Timothy chapter 2:

11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women[1] will be saved[2] through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
 
Here's another doosy: Deuteronomy 21

18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.\

I no longer wonder about the Salem Witch Trials.
 
Originally posted by DrBodacious
Here's another doosy: Deuteronomy 21

18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.\

I no longer wonder about the Salem Witch Trials.

let me ask you this. what is it within yourself that makes you look into a book that you apparently hold in contempt and pick out verses in order to mock others? i am familiar with those passages and with many others as well. if you are judging the morality of these commandments, then you must assume that you know right from wrong. but do you really? how do you know that women were made for the same roles as men? is it because society has told you so or that in your own pride you cannot believe otherwise? who are you to judge God? when Jesus came forgiveness, freedom, mercy and more importantly justification for our sins came through Him. that is why Jesus prevented Mary Magdelene (a prostitute) from being stoned. we are all sinners and we all deserve death. but to read scripture and dictate to God what He should have and shouldnt have done, is absolutely preposterous. if you read the bible seeking to satisfy your own ego, then you can read God's Word, but you will never understand it. the Word of God humbles those who hear.

[. . .] You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'
Matthew 13: 14-14
 
My thoughts exactly...Don't read the Bible to judge God...The Old Testament points to Christ and makes us realize what would have been our eternal separation from God and His judgement upon us without Christ...
 
Originally posted by bewitched1081
how do you know that women were made for the same roles as men? is it because society has told you so or that in your own pride you cannot believe otherwise?

:clap: I think I finally figured you out. :clap:

Lemme guess .... President and Founder of the *OFFICIAL* _AVID listener Club_ of Dr. Laura's radio call in Show? Sweet!

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I just want to thank ya'll for this! Last night during my quiet time, I was looking up verses dealing with God's will and patience, and then I prayed that He would just help me through this......I feel like finding this thread this morning is an answered prayer. Thanks again!!! :D :D :D
 
I think all Christians would agree with me if I said that though Christianity seems at first to be all about morality, all about duties and rules and guilt and virtue, yet it leads you on, out of all that, into something beyond. One has a glimpse of a country where they do not talk of those things, except perhaps as a joke. Everyone there is filled full with what we should call goodness as a mirror is filled with light. But they do not call it goodness. They do not call it anything. They are not thinking of it. They are too busy looking at the source from which it comes. But this is near the stage where the road passes over the rim of our world. No one's eyes can see very far beyond that: Lots of people's eyes can see further than mine.

~ C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
 
Ah, C.S. Lewis. Had a mind like a steel trap--sharper than any other. And he writes so beautifully!

DrBodacious--

Just for fun I've added below some pieces from the Expositor's Bible Commentary referring to the Scriptures you posted.

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DT 21:18-21

18-21 The rules for behavior in domestic and civil life generally provided protection for the less fortunate, which Neufeld (p. 98) observes is in contrast to Hittite law. In the case of a recalcitrant son, however, no mercy was allowed. The description of such a son alleviates what seems to be a less humanitarian approach. This son was stubborn, rebellious, and disobedient in the face of remonstrance (v. 18). These words describe incorrigible wickedness. Moreover, when the parents leveled charges against the son before the elders, they made the specific accusations of his being both a drunkard and a profligate (v. 20).
Rebelliousness was a serious sin. Moses designated his people as rebellious at Kadesh. Before he brought water from the rock, he said, "Listen, you rebels, must we bring you water out of this rock?" (Num 20:10).
This son was not only stubborn and rebellious, he was incorrigibly disobedient. No hope remains for such a person. His parents made their accusation before the elders sitting in the place of judgment in the gate of the city, and the punishment of being stoned to death was meted out by the townspeople so that evil would be purged from among them (v. 21; see comments and Notes on 17:7, 12). The fear of punishment was expected to restrain each filial rebelliousness (13:11; 17:13; 19:20). This kind of rebelliousness was strictly forbidden by the fifth commandment (5:16; Exod 20:12; notice also Exod 21:15). The OT does not contain an instance of this punishment being applied.


1 Timothy 2:11-15

11,12 The teaching of these two verses is similar to that found in 1 Corinthians 14:33-35. There Paul tells' the women that they are not allowed to talk out loud in the public services; here he says that they are to "learn in quietness and full submission." Titus 2:5 suggests that he means a wife is to be submissive to her husband. But it may well have the wider application of "submission to constituted authority, i.e., the officials and regulations of the Church" (Ramsay, quoted in Lock, p. 32).
The attitude of the Greeks toward women's place in society was not altogether uniform. Plato gave them practical equality with men. But Aristotle thought their activities should be severely limited, and his views generally prevailed. Plutarch (Moral Essays, p. 785) sounds much the same note as Paul does here.
The expression "full submission" needs to be treated intelligently. Vine offers this helpful comment: "The injunction is not directed towards a surrender of mind and conscience, or the abandonment of the duty of private judgment; the phrase `with all subjection' is a warning against the usurpation of authority, as, e.g., in the next verse" (p. 45).
Specifically Paul says, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man." Some have even said that the apostle's prohibition excludes women from teaching Sunday school classes. But he is talking about the public assemblies of the church. Paul speaks appreciatively of the fact that Timothy himself had been taught the right way by his godly mother and grandmother (2Tim 1:5; 3:15). The apostle also writes to Titus that the older women are to train the younger (Titus 2:3, 4). Women have always carried the major responsibility for teaching small children, in both home and church school. And what could we have done without them!
The word silent translates en hesychia, exactly the same phrase that is rendered "in quietness" in v. 11. Quietness is an important Christian virtue. Paul was especially opposed to confusion in the public services of the church (1Cor 14:33).

13,14 The apostle adds that the wife's role of submission to her husband is inherent in creation. Adam was created first, and then Eve.
The story is told in Genesis 2:21-23. The Lord God made Eve from a rib taken from Adam. Matthew Henry pointed out beautifully the implication of this description: "The woman ... was not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him ... and near his heart to be beloved" (Commentary, 1:20). This expresses perfectly the ideal of a happy married life. The husband who has this concept will usually find his wife eager to please him.
Paul makes one further point. It was the woman who was deceived by Satan and who disobeyed God (cf. Gen 3:1-6). Since she was so easily deceived, she should not be trusted as a teacher.

15 This verse is obviously a difficult one to explain. Thousands of godly women have not been "kept safe through childbirth."
The passage literally reads, "But she will be saved through the childbirth, if they continue in faith...." The verb sozo ("save") is used in the NT for both physical healing (mostly in the Gospels) and spiritual salvation (mostly in the Epistles). Perhaps it carries both connotations here. The wife may find both physical health and a higher spiritual state through the experience of bearing and rearing children. "They" probably means "women" (so NIV), though it could possibly refer to the husband and wife.
Three interpretations of this verse have been suggested. The first emphasizes the use of the definite article with "childbirth" and suggests that the reference is to the birth of Christ, through whom salvation has come to the world. Lock, Ellicott, and some other good modern commentators favor this meaning, but Bernard dismisses it almost with scorn: "The interpretation must be counted among those pious and ingenious flights of fancy, which so often mislead the commentator on Holy Scripture" (pp. 49, 50).
A second interpretation is closely related to this. It connects the statement here with Genesis 3:15. The seed of the woman would crush the serpent's head and bring salvation to mankind.
The third interpretation is suggested by Vine. He writes, "By means of begetting children and so fulfilling the design appointed for her through acceptance of motherhood ... she would be saved from becoming a prey to the social evils of the time and would take her part in the maintenance of the testimony of the local church" (p. 47). This fits best with the context and the main emphasis of this Epistle.
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Of course it's easy to just whip out a verse from the Bible, post it on these forms, and make it look absurd. Any fool can do that. Unfortunatly, anyone with half a brain can see right through that facade. Without context, all information is meaningless...something best learned prior to picking up a stethescope.
 
BTW...there aren't any churches today that actively participate in stoning their children (although my parents have threatened it on occasion :D ), and every church I've been to has women standing frequently in front of a microphone. Some things in the Bible are meant to be taken literally at all times (e.g., do not murder); others are meant to be taken literally, but within the proper cultural context (e.g., ancient cultures where women were expected to submit to men). Finally, there are also directives given that are completely figurative; for example, Jesus said to gouge out your eye if it causes you to sin. The real meaning is that you must be prepared to sacrifice anything (like pornography, promiscuous sex, etc.) that is harmful to your faith.

Most Christians have an easy time discerning which commands go into which category. If you find this difficult, pick up a students study Bible at Barnes and Noble ($25-50); these Bibles do a decent job of explaining difficult or controversial passages. You might be surprised at the real meaning behind the Bible, and more importantly, you might discover VERITAS.
 
Dont turn this thread into a religious debate. Most who take the bible so literally really have no idea where the text came from. The Torah(basically old testament) was passed by word of mouth for the first 400 years of its existence. The New Testament has been edited and altered dozens of times. The book is not a historical document. Virtually all theologians agree with this fact.

However, this doesn't mean you cannot gather meaning from it.

In Taoist parables talking animals are used to tell stories and teach lessons. Followers of Tao learn from the meaning of the story. They don't sit around debating whether or not the animals really talked. I recommend "Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism" by Dr. Spong to anyone who is interested in learning the history of the Book, and what we can still get out of it.
 
Originally posted by medic8m
The Torah(basically old testament) was passed by word of mouth for the first 400 years of its existence. The New Testament has been edited and altered dozens of times. The book is not a historical document. Virtually all theologians agree with this fact.

I don't want to get into a debate, but I feel that it's necessary to respond to this. Your statement about historical value is...well, I don't know what to call it. It's extremely bold. In fact, it's so bold that I don't think any historians or theologians would risk their reputations by saying anything of the sort. It's like saying you know for a fact that a country possesses WMD without having data to back it up.

I submit to you an excerpt from the Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties:

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In contrast to most other ancient documents that have survived in multiplied copies (such as the Egyptian Tale of Sinuhe or the Behistun Rock trilingual inscription of Darius I), collation of many hundreds of manuscript copies from the third century B.C. to the sixth century A.D. yields an amazingly limited range of variation in actual wording. In fact,it has been long recognized by the foremost specialists in textual criticism that if any decently attested variant were taken up from the apparatus at the bottom of the page and were substituted for the accepted reading of the standard text, there would in no case be a single, significant alteration in doctrine or message. This can only be explained as the result of a special measure of control exercised by the God who inspired the original manuscripts of Scripture so as to insure their preservation for the benefit of His people. A degree of deviation so serious as to affect the sense would issue in failure to achieve the purpose for which the revelation was originally given: that men might be assured of God's holiness and grace, and that they might know of His will for their salvation.
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This written by a panel of theologians who clearly disagree with your assessment of their position. The Torah was not passed verbally--it was WRITTEN, by Moses. You may think that Moses didn't write the pentateuch...you'd be wrong. The notion that the New Testament is not historical is absurd, at least from a historical point of view. Even if you don't believe in the supernatural events described within, you have to admit that everything we know about the cultures of the 1st century (Greek, Roman, Samarian, Ephesian, etc.) corroborates the historical information depicted in the New Testament. I'm going to quit now before this gets any longer, but I'd be happy to have a discussion about this through some other medium.
 
Originally posted by coldchemist
I don't want to get into a debate, but I feel that it's necessary to respond to this. Your statement about historical value is...well, I don't know what to call it. It's extremely bold. In fact, it's so bold that I don't think any historians or theologians would risk their reputations by saying anything of the sort. It's like saying you know for a fact that a country possesses WMD without having data to back it up.

I submit to you an excerpt from the Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties:

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In contrast to most other ancient documents that have survived in multiplied copies (such as the Egyptian Tale of Sinuhe or the Behistun Rock trilingual inscription of Darius I), collation of many hundreds of manuscript copies from the third century B.C. to the sixth century A.D. yields an amazingly limited range of variation in actual wording. In fact,it has been long recognized by the foremost specialists in textual criticism that if any decently attested variant were taken up from the apparatus at the bottom of the page and were substituted for the accepted reading of the standard text, there would in no case be a single, significant alteration in doctrine or message. This can only be explained as the result of a special measure of control exercised by the God who inspired the original manuscripts of Scripture so as to insure their preservation for the benefit of His people. A degree of deviation so serious as to affect the sense would issue in failure to achieve the purpose for which the revelation was originally given: that men might be assured of God's holiness and grace, and that they might know of His will for their salvation.
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This written by a panel of theologians who clearly disagree with your assessment of their position. The Torah was not passed verbally--it was WRITTEN, by Moses. You may think that Moses didn't write the pentateuch...you'd be wrong. The notion that the New Testament is not historical is absurd, at least from a historical point of view. Even if you don't believe in the supernatural events described within, you have to admit that everything we know about the cultures of the 1st century (Greek, Roman, Samarian, Ephesian, etc.) corroborates the historical information depicted in the New Testament. I'm going to quit now before this gets any longer, but I'd be happy to have a discussion about this through some other medium.


no way, I think you're way off.... My info is from two semenary graduates (two close friends)

I'll pm you later to discuss so we can spare this forum. The main point of the post was taking the bible too literally is dangerous.
 
Bewitched-

I wasn't trying to mock you. I respect that you find meaning in the Bible.

My "my thoughts excactly" response was an impulsive reaction to the :rolleyes: and not really representitive of how I feel about religious folk.
 
Coldchemist--

I don't think the context you gave makes those quotes any less absurd, not to mention that no historical has been given for most (if not all) of the quotes posted here. I have no idea how credible your source is either. The scriptures are thousands of years old and have been translated by people with a variety of intensions along the way. Such is the "context" of the Bible. Thinking of several possible contextual interpretations of a Bible quote and choosing the one that best fits with a positive image of Christianity is hardly concrete anyway, so I am quite skeptical of the context your source give.

With regards to the deuteronomy quote, basically every major war throughout history has been between parties that both/all find religious justification for their actions that equates to purgeing the 'evil' from society. Christians, and even the mainstream christian groups who played major roles in the historical revisions of the Bible over the past 2000 years, certainly haven't seperated themselves from that.

Gotta go do some more work right now, but I'd just like to add that my motives are not to piss of any christians, but I like to question people's faith and express my own beliefs that religion can be harmful when "I'm right your wrong, God told me so" goes to far. Therefore, I thought I'd add my Bible quotes as inspriations to ponder that.
 
You know...I was kind of thinking the same thing about those references, but I was hoping you wouldn't notice. Darn it, you should have picked a better verse!

My pastor once said something that rings especially true here: we can argue the evidence for or against Christianity until were all blue in the face and we will have gotten nowhere. But the one thing that can't be taken away from a true believer, no matter how skeptical the detractor, is that persons personal experience with Christ. That is the true evidence for Christianity. I wish I could share mine with you here, but I have a feeling that it would not be consistent with the policies of this board.

Nothing wrong with a healthy discussion on religion...
 
that's true. nothing wrong with a healthy discussion. so i was reading, and i found this verse. hopefully it will help some people know that that they aren't the only ones in the boat. this is directly quoted from the bible, and it is not meant as an insult. i had trouble with those women verses before, too. im all for women's rights. but God has given me the grace to see His will and to obedient to it.

Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

2 Peter 3: 15-16
The author of 1 and 2 Timothy was Paul.

on another note to all my fellow brothers and sisters: God has shown me that He has given and has all the right to take away. ive been going through a lot of things lately and it has really been a test of faith to trust that God knows what He's doing. and He sure does because one of things that ive asked to be taken away is being taken away...my Pride. thanks be to God for His Word. i would be so lost without it.

In this you greatly rejoice, for though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith - of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire - may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory, and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.
1 Peter 1: 6-7
 
Originally posted by DrBodacious
Here's another doosy: Deuteronomy 21

18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.\

I no longer wonder about the Salem Witch Trials.

I guess someone took this quite literally:

Expert: Mom Believed God Ordered Killings

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20040403/ap_on_re_us/children_slain
 
Anyone want to share any experiences they've had talking about evolution or anything else about their faith during their medical school interviews.



Here are some creation science seminar mp3s available online for free download. They're pretty interesting.


http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=mp3
 
Originally posted by Zweihander
Not a bible quote, but one of the best things I've ever heard nevertheless:

"And even though it all went wrong, I'll stand before the Lord of Song
with nothing on my tongue but 'Hallelujah!'"

Leonard Cohen

I like that :D
 
bump...

I thought this might be a nice surprise!
 
wow. i am surprised! i had some good verses that i wanted to post before but i forgot them. sorry.
 
Actually I find the responses interesting..... EAch of us comes to research (hey I'm a scientist so the first thing I think of is research!), with our own bias. We might like to THINK we are unbiased, but NONE of us are. We are influenced by our upbringing/environment/experiences/education/and yes, as much as you may dislike it....our belief system. In fact it is a combination of these factors that has brought each of us to medicine. I find it ironic that we can start a thread on almost any topic looking for commonality (sp?) between us. Each of us has seen threads asking for people attending "so-and-so" university or "so-and-so" grade point averages or any other topic. Those people who share that background or goal are welcome to join in the discussion on that thread. That is in part what this forum is for! ....and yet, when the commonality is "faith" somehow that is perceived as inappropriate. It bothers me even more, that a thread would be closed or moved because of those who CHOSE to view it (and post in it), even though they did not share its "commonality." To me, it seems the more appropriate move would be to prohibit those people who object from posting. As physicians we are supposed to be tolerant of all people, all ethic backgrounds, all socioeconomic backgrounds, all genders, and yes....faiths. A physicians responsibility is to accept, help, and heal people from ALL backgrounds even if we may not agree. It seems peculiar to me that those very people who intend to enter the role of "doctor" would be so intolerant as to read, object, and post on a thread that clearly was not intended for them. It seems even MORE objectionable to close or move a thread because of those inappropriate posts.
 
JohnHolmes said:
I think there should be a break in these heated discussions. I would like to say:

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I like the quotes! MOre quotes!
 
"I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me." --Phillippians 4:13

This is my MCAT inspiration...especially when I get 4 out of 6 questions wrong on a passage. :)
 
I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
 
The Lord is on my side;
I will not fear.
what can man do to me?

The Lord is for me among those who help me;
Therefore I shall see my desire on those who hate me.

It is better to trust in the Lord
Than to put confidence in man.
It is better to trust in the Lord
Than to put confidence in princes.

All Nations surrounds me,
But in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

They surrounded me,
Yes, the surround me;
But in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

They surrounded me like bees;
They were quenched like a fire of thorns;
For in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

You pushed me violently, that I might fall,
But the Lord helped me.

The Lord is my strength and song,
And He has become my salvation.
 
Where did this thread come from? Can we start a quotes from the koran thread? :rolleyes:
 
Thou shall not whack lest ye be whacked by the hand of another...preferrably a hot chick
 
For people who don't understand why some are offended by this thread:

"This is really an argument between two kinds of prayer--vertical and horizontal. I don't have the slightest problem with vertical prayer. It is horizontal prayer that frightens me. Vertical prayer is private, directed upward toward heaven. It need not be spoken aloud, because God is a spirit and has no ears. Horizontal prayer must always be audible, because its purpose is not to be heard by God, but to be heard by fellow men standing within earshot."

~ Roger Ebert, "Public Prayer Fanatics Borrow Page from Enemy's Script"
March 5, 2003
 
nice quote...im not offended by it but the general attitude of most christians pisses me off to no end..i believe in god and jesus but its a personal relationship and i couldnt care less what the next person believes in or worships because that is their business..i dont espouse my beliefs to you so dont act like you're better than me and throw your junk in my face...especially baptists, dont get me started on them
 
ms2209 said:
For people who don't understand why some are offended by this thread:

"This is really an argument between two kinds of prayer--vertical and horizontal. I don't have the slightest problem with vertical prayer. It is horizontal prayer that frightens me. Vertical prayer is private, directed upward toward heaven. It need not be spoken aloud, because God is a spirit and has no ears. Horizontal prayer must always be audible, because its purpose is not to be heard by God, but to be heard by fellow men standing within earshot."

~ Roger Ebert, "Public Prayer Fanatics Borrow Page from Enemy's Script"
March 5, 2003
Religion for show is an entirely different thing from sharing faith with others.
 
Thundrstorm said:
Religion for show is an entirely different thing from sharing faith with others.

I totally agree with that statement!
Matthew 18:19 and 20 says
"Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

God wants us to fellowship with another. He wants us to share our experiences, our testimonies, our prayers so that we can be an encouragement to one another!
 
Naima19 said:
I totally agree with that statement!
Matthew 18:19 and 20 says
"Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

God wants us to fellowship with another. He wants us to share our experiences, our testimonies, our prayers so that we can be an encouragement to one another!

and apparently ostracize others for not having the same beliefs..ROCK ON!
 
For the people who claim they are offended by this thread, stay out of it!

By the way, I'm an atheist and I have no problems with people believing in whatever relegion they want to as long as they respect me not believing in a G-d.
 
Get a handle on yourselves folks:

"Jesus Christ"

Matthew 1:11, 1:16, 1:18,......
 
Not to thread hijack, but I want to clarify one point:

The OT is not "basically the Torah". The Torah is composed of the first five books of the OT; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The rest of the books in the OT are called the HafTorah. The entirety of the OT is referred to in the Jewish tradition as the Tenach.

And the New Testament is the Brik-Hadashah (hard to transliterate).
 
Peterock said:
Dr. Mom, repeatedly quoting your religion's primary Scripture IS proselytizing. Even if you're trying to help other Christians, one can still proseltyze to other Christians.

"proselytize" means "to convert." (pros = toward or, in a sense, over; eluthein = to come) Christians can't proselytize each other, unless, of course we're talking about born again Christianity, etc.
 
Blackstars said:
To those attacking Christianity:

Because I have called out but you keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention. And you keep negleting all my counsel and my reproof you have not accepted, I also, for my part, shall laught at your own disaster, I shall mock when what you dread comes like a storm and your own disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times come upon you. At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer; they will keep looking for me but they would not find me. For the reason they hated knowledge.
Proverbs 1:24-28
:clap: :clap:

This is an interesting passage in so far as it gives some insight into the values and faith of a small group of people in somewhat diverse, tribal, and often war-like society thousands of years ago.

Your use of the passage here, while claiming to be a Christian, is an embarassment... What did Jesus do? He preached against the oppressive aspects of the dominant religion of his place and time...he railed against the Pharisees and Saducees, and pitched a fit in the temple for its corruption.

Your Bible verses have no meaning for the people you speak them to because they don't believe them... Who can blame them? On the other hand, you should be scared as hell because you are the new Pharisee, and the wrath you speak of might be meant for you. Do you really believe the idea of grace in your head will get you into heaven? ...or a life defined by grace, which means being loving and accepting despite the faults that you see in others?
 
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
Mathew 11:28-30
 
"And God said unto Abraham, "You will kill your son Issac." and Abraham replied, "I can't quite hear you, could you turn up the microphone." And God said, "Oh yes of course, Check Check, Check Check...Jerry Can you pull the high end out, I'm still getting some hiss back here..."

The Book of Stewie
 
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