Oh does AZ always approve the budget that late? I know my classmate had been under the impression they would tell her before, so she waited to accept until the deadline because she was hoping she’d hear before. Dang, that’s annoying they wait so long!
FTFY
But also I know who this classmate isand she is indeed in my class haha
I was wondering if you knew her! One of my favorite people from undergrad.
35-40k is still so so so so much more than WSU if you got wiche. Currently WSU is at 25k for the year for tuition if I’m reading their site right (it’s by semester so math). That’s a whole ten to fifteen THOUSAND dollars cheaper. Per year. That’s FORTY TO SIXTY THOUSAND dollars just in tuition costs saved. And then add interest onto that and you cry. Can almost guarantee housing is going to be way cheaper in Pullman than the Phoenix area. That’s a TON extra debt to take on just because it’s a bit closer home. Tbh the amount you’d save as wiche going to WSU vs getting reduced tuition at MWU, you could fly more expensive flights back and STILL be in less debt. You could take forty $1000 flights in those four years and still be in less debt because of lower living costs.
Interesting. Maybe it has changed or last year was an off year because a few of my classmates got offers then got wiche confirmation before the deadline to accept.
What Ski said. ~$25k is what you would pay in tuition for the year. According to the AZ people on WICHE here at WSU whatever their state funding didn't cover they got a scholarship to make up the difference to bring them to IS tuition. I'm biased but I like WSU if you have questions please pm me I'd be more than happy to help. Also flights from Spokane to Albuquerque are approximately $260 while Phoenix to Albuquerque is still like $200. So definately not a huge difference. Yeah you can't really drive back but I hate driving more than 3 hours at a time to start with so yeah. Housing is cheaper here as well from what I understand from my AZ people. Depending on what you're looking for you can get by with housing for about $400/mo in Pullman. Less if you live across the border in Moscow ID. Average runs $500-600/mo. You can get a whole house for $1000-1500 if you really wanted. Even if ski's part about saving 40-60k doesn't make a difference the amount of interest accumulation at 6-7% on those loans should catch your eye. It's the part about taking out student loans that makes me want to cry the most.
Honestly getting a couple surgeries in your second year is not worth the extra $40k+ in cost of attendance. At all. You are going to be much better served saving that money, and potentially using it for things like a Humane Alliance externship.
We get to start doing surgeries after the end of the first semester assuming you pass your surgery course! Simple cat neuters to start for a while of course through our shelter club. Wet lab surgeries your first semester. Opportunities to do wet lab surgeries twice a week after the first semester if you wanted. Doing surgeries repetitiously is how you get proficient so that is partly on the student partly on the school as there are some schools with less opportunities. We also have a great partnership in 4th year with the shelter in Seattle to continue to get those experiences as you get closer to the end to build all of those skills. Our junior spay block partners with shelters in the area and help them that way. You will always need practice doing surgery after you graduate as there will be more advanced surgeries that you didn't get the opportunity of doing while in school for whatever reason so that's nothing that should discourage you. Plus there's ALOT more to being a doctor than just surgery especially in the shelter realm surgery will be only a small part of what your job entails.
Any accredited vet school should offer you the opportunities to get plenty of surgical experience to feel confident doing basic surgeries out of vet school. Seriously. If you want surgery experience early, just being a vet student opens doors for you to do that whether its through volunteering abroad with spay neuter trips or for local shelters or through surgery/shelter clubs etc and so on. If you want the experience and are motivated you can find ways to get the experience at any vet school. But that $40K in debt (which can get up to $45K or more just with interest during vet school) will follow you for years after graduation.
It's brand new this cycle they are accepting WICHE funding so I've been told.
Ha I was editing my post about that when you posted
I'm curious how Midwestern becoming a WICHE school affects AZ residents. Do they still qualify for WICHE since there is technically no public veterinary school in AZ (since Midwestern is a private school)?
So far they will still get WICHE, until U of A becomes a vet school if/when that happensI'm curious how Midwestern becoming a WICHE school affects AZ residents. Do they still qualify for WICHE since there is technically no public veterinary school in AZ (since Midwestern is a private school)?
It may be a while before U of A can get their veterinary program online - they have proposed some very huge differences from normal US veterinary programs that I think the AVMA wasn't entirely fond of
I think it's pretty common to get stars in your eyes about one school or another. But on average...they're pretty much the same. Curriculum differences here, location differences there, but with few exceptions you are getting essentially the same education in whatever form that takes (we all have to take the same licensing exam after all). Once you've talked to enough people at enough different schools about it, you pretty much come to realize that no matter the trappings and details, vet school is hard no matter where you go, and everyone who graduates and passes the NAVLE becomes a vet, and what you do after that is up to you and the choices you have made in setting up your career along the way, not up to the school you went to. Vet school is 4 years, it is not your life, and the biggest impact that the school you go to will have down the road, the one that you can guarantee, is how much debt you'll be in. Everything else is kind of an amorphous idea of what vet school is until you are actually in it, and then it's over and you have the rest of your life. The debt is real.
*technically* you can do neuters first year at WSU. Just saying
Though the shelter program MWU has is amazing. But that shouldn’t be the main thing you focus on, because you’ll get other opportunities like that.
If you get WICHE funding, sure, go to MWU. But know 40k extra IS a lot more when it’ll be 80k when you’re paying it back.
But when you have a much cheaper OOS offer if you don’t get funding, will regret not choosing it when you’re paying it back.
Ya until they threaten to sue and then, well, we know how the AVMA responds to that
Ya until they threaten to sue and then, well, we know how the AVMA responds to that
What kind of differences?Ya until they threaten to sue and then, well, we know how the AVMA responds to that
I can't remember all the specifics but the major things I remember from their plan was no teaching hospital (AVMA has already established they're chill with that), and it's supposed to run year round so students would be done with the program in 3 years instead of 4. I know some schools used to do that (mine included) back in like...the 70s. Feels like there's way too much breadth and depth of material now to do that without causing serious burnout.
I couldn't imagine the burn out. Also I read something about they would accept a large amount and cut after year 1 like take the top 20%, plus the tuition they were proposing was rediculously cheap so we shall see what happens
Eh idk about ridiculously cheap, last I saw it was in line with IS tuition at most schools (about 28k) and they were planning to have a few OOS seats that would be charged more
Maybe that was per semester but either wasn’t made clear it was per semester or accidentally said per year in some news article?
At one point weren’t they trying to do a model more like the UK/Ireland schools where you start a program right after high school?
I believe they also had plans to recruit students straight out of high school for their program
Wow it’s like there’s an echo in here
Just wanted to put that out there. I would love to hear that side as well! 
️Go to the cheapest school. Right ski?Regarding the whole cheaper schooling discussion, there is great representation from WSU students and other students who side with going for cheaper tuition, which are ALL wonderfully valid points that I am so grateful for!
But Since this is the general thread, I really wonder what other MWU applicants who plan to/will attend MWU or MWU CVM students have to say about this conversation!Just wanted to put that out there. I would love to hear that side as well!
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Ah yeah that does sound familiar. I know there's a thread around here somewhere where we discussed it. But it looks like that's not the plan anymore anyway, they've walked it back so instead they're just talking about not requiring a bachelor's as long as the prereqs are completed.
It's just a joke between me and ski related back to another thread. I also want to know their side.
I can give the perspective of a friend of mine. He chose the school that he thought would be the best for what he wanted to do with his career, and the one that he felt the best about when he interviewed, and all those other things that we tell people to consider after the cost of attendance. I'm glad he did because he's my best friend now. However, and he will give this caveat to anyone who asks about it, he is in a position where he does not have to take out loans. That is the only reason he made that choice, and that is the only reason he is even going into this field, because he would not have done it if he was going to be in debt, due to the nature of the career he wants.
