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Yeah there’s not really a SOAP process. If you’re a USUHS student you’re guaranteed to match in the mil match. If you’re HPSP then you’re required to submit an ERAS in case you don’t match military.
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Yeah there’s not really a SOAP process. If you’re a USUHS student you’re guaranteed to match in the mil match. If you’re HPSP then you’re required to submit an ERAS in case you don’t match military.
Essentially me if i match in texas
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@Matthew9Thirtyfive your response might be Navy specific.
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Below is the annual Army Medical Education Update powerpoint. It gives a nice overview of the HPSP as well as max/min/average board scores for those who have matched into the various specialties of Army medicine. There are a whole bunch of other useful bits in here as well - enjoy!
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For Army, IM usually does not initially fill though it could be intentional to meet the upcoming needs of service, rather than train too many. Take a look at the annual Army GME documents.... below is a quote from a recent GME document. You can also see this in the ACGME Accreditation Data System.
"• Rebuttal board (Scramble) for unfilled positions:
− 2015: Dermatology; Internal Med; Ob/Gyn; Pathology; Radiology
− 2016: Family Med; Internal Med; Psychiatry
− 2017: Anesthesia; Family Med; Internal Med; Pathology; Urology
− 2018: Family Med; Internal Med
− 2019: Family Med, Internal Med"
You got this, no way your whole list are reaches.
Any communication would be a good sign
Wait, you received two phone calls after march 3rd ?
How common is this ?
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interesting , what field is this ?
The only post interview communication I received was a letter from my home program and some generic ERAS communication.
And these were texts from the residents or official stuff from the PD?
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You got this, Any place you interviewed and ranked is in the running, most residents would not know what the final list looks like, and importantly what other people's lists look like that ranked the program higher or lower.
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AnatomyGrey12
Our school told us communication post rank list with any member of a program is considered a match violation.....
I don’t see how it would matter after the list is locked. Of course my school doesn’t tell us anything so I wouldn’t know.
I think that's unusual I got a phone call and an email both more than a week ahead of deadline
Technically cant tell us anything until noon on Match friday, we'd even get in trouble for a mentor telling us a few hours ahead (schools get the results sooner than we do)
Interesting, yeah, we were never told anything except how to prepare for the soap 😂
Shows my school’s faith in us.
The NRMP now knows how the size of the SOAP looks compared to prior years. I wonder if theyll do or say anything to clue everyone in if it looks bad (other than adding the extra round they announced at the beginning of the cycle)
I doubt it.
the texting or me not receiving anything beyond the generic ERAS (remember to rank us) and essentially a love letter from my home program.
I am curious about these phone calls. How common is that, I was under the impression that programs have become more thoughtful about their post interview communications.
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AnatomyGrey12
I think it depends. I got a phone call from a PD.
This is interesting, Perhaps I am not high enough on the rank list for any program for them to do that. I am not sure why programs would do this as programs should be ranking everyone according to their preference and applicants should be doing the same. I did receive a letter that explicitly stated that the letter was not sent out to everyone. But I am not sure I would trust that letter. Its almost like programs dont like the match algo , or actively try to game it.
@Matthew9Thirtyfive your response might be Navy specific.
GME Slideshow
Below is the annual Army Medical Education Update powerpoint. It gives a nice overview of the HPSP as well as max/min/average board scores for those who have matched into the various specialties of Army medicine. There are a whole bunch of other useful bits in here as well - enjoy!
For Army, IM usually does not initially fill though it could be intentional to meet the upcoming needs of service, rather than train too many. Take a look at the annual Army GME documents.... below is a quote from a recent GME document. You can also see this in the ACGME Accreditation Data System.
"• Rebuttal board (Scramble) for unfilled positions:
− 2015: Dermatology; Internal Med; Ob/Gyn; Pathology; Radiology
− 2016: Family Med; Internal Med; Psychiatry
− 2017: Anesthesia; Family Med; Internal Med; Pathology; Urology
− 2018: Family Med; Internal Med
− 2019: Family Med, Internal Med"
That makes sense. All my info is from navy side.
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Because some PDs like to brag that they got their Top choices.
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Yeah just no point. You already have or haven’t matched at this point. It all means nothing when you think about it.
I think you and I interviewed at a lot of the same places so it makes sense neither of us have heard anything (unless we both suck lol)
yeah my neuroticism about this was a reason why I quit all application related internet for a few months. It will be fine, until it isnt, lol.
I think it's very specialty dependent. I only got 1 personal PD call from 15 interviews and my advisor (who had amazing students in prior years match UCSF, Brigham, etc) said that's normal for DR
DR seems to have the most programs that follow the rules and play by the book it seems like.
My communication is with places I auditioned and became good friends with residents, and even then that was 2 of a bunch of programs where I managed to rotate. Outside of auditions I got ONE INTERVIEW and the PD thought I had rotated at a different hospital in town, it was literally an accidental invite out of 128 apps I sent.
Point is you and the other baller SDN applicants have nothing to worry about.
Ehhhh idk about that. My friend applying radiology has been called by 3 PDs telling him he’s RTM and trying to get him to rank them #1.
clearly him and I live on different planets.
I knew registering for this would bite me in the behind.
Why are you like this?
Well in the last 72 hours before ROL deadline I received several texts, emails, calls, and 1 package. None of them seemed special or unique to me so I didn’t reply.
That’s awesome !!!! Sounds like you are a superstar.
No lol. They all seemed generic so I didn’t reply. I think it’s more because none of my programs are top tier (low tier university/affiliated/community aka they know THEY aren’t superstars) so they’re doing what they can to recruit.
it does make me feel good about matching in general though. But I already had a ~100% statistical chance to match based on charting outcomes.
She is, don’t let her downplay the hype
One of my programs mailed me a marble. $4 paid in shipping. The intention (that they were thinking of me?) was kind but it seemed like a waste of money. Then my spouse reminded how much programs saved this year from not having to feed us 🤣
I only got 2-3 RTM kinda mails from community IM programs. They were all really sweet people and the PDs are “yes I’ll take care of you son” types. Nothing from the academics tho they’re probably still LOL-ing that I applied there
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I got my RTM stuff from community and DO programs, where as far as I know, it's pretty common to have post interview communication. I got nothing from university/academic programs.
+1 1 phone call, 1 personalized email, and 1 generic email all community/DO programs
One program i interviewed at, the PD straight up admitted he loves doing PIC and did it every year. But he showed us a screenshot from some organizing body (forgot which one), basically saying to stop doing PIC. So he said this is the first year he’s not, so even at places where it used to be common place its seeming to become less so
Haven't heard anything after interviews. That's according to ACAPS policies, but still not sure if it's because programs are complying with that or I'm just not that great an applicant.
Applied IM. Got a generic "TY for interviewing w/ our program" email for most places. 1 Place (probably same one as @sunshinefl ) sent a really cool gift box.
Wouldn't worry about getting any love letters at this point. Our fates are already set haha.
Wouldn't worry about getting any love letters at this point. Our fates are already set haha.
