MD & DO co'21 Residency Panic thread

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So where do rotating medical students fall on the spectrum of vaccination?

If a questionnaire asks, "do you work (paid or unpaid) or volunteer in a healthcare setting?"

How would one answer this if you have in-person away rotations scheduled? Technically it's not work or volunteering, since we're "students"?
 
somedudehere said:
So where do rotating medical students fall on the spectrum of vaccination?

If a questionnaire asks, "do you work (paid or unpaid) or volunteer in a healthcare setting?"

How would one answer this if you have in-person away rotations scheduled? Technically it's not work or volunteering, since we're "students"?
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Unpaid work
 
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Also ever since my school got cited by coca for lacking inter professional education theyve implemented a whole bunch of bs (including building an entire PA school) and now I have to shadow a nurse for a certain amount of time as a graduation requirement. But didnt really give an official pathway to do so (no time off to specifically do it, no offical way to get set up w a nurse, just a blanket requirement) sooooo thanks COCA v helpful and v educational
 
Scrubs101 said:
Also ever since my school got cited by coca for lacking inter professional education theyve implemented a whole bunch of bs (including building an entire PA school) and now I have to shadow a nurse for a certain amount of time as a graduation requirement. But didnt really give an official pathway to do so (no time off to specifically do it, no offical way to get set up w a nurse, just a blanket requirement) sooooo thanks COCA v helpful and v educational
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That's definitely your school overreacting to the COCA requirement and going overboard. As far as I know, the only COCA requirement is for students to sit in an interprofessional "education" event a couple times a year and hear about how ****ty doctors are compared to all other health professionals.
 
Neopolymath said:
That's definitely your school overreacting to the COCA requirement and going overboard. As far as I know, the only COCA requirement is for students to sit in an interprofessional "education" event a couple times a year and hear about how ****ty doctors are compared to all other health professionals.
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What in the actual ****
 
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Neopolymath said:
That's definitely your school overreacting to the COCA requirement and going overboard. As far as I know, the only COCA requirement is for students to sit in an interprofessional "education" event a couple times a year and hear about how ****ty doctors are compared to all other health professionals.
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Oh yeah I agree, I dont remember the specifics but I remember they made it seem like it was a pretty big citation when it happened my second year.

The PA school part could be unrelated but its def odd because the university my schools at has a ton of diff medical programs that are just apart of the uni, but the PA school is specifically a program of the DO school at my uni.

But yeah we def had our fair share of those kinds of lectures too lol and quite a few interprofessional assignments throughout third year.

At this point in the year I 100% feel like im just checking boxes till graduation, the check out is real af. 3.5 more rotations, 2 OMM notes, nurse shadowing, and a few interprofessional videos to watch and im outchaaa
 
Scrubs101 said:
I feel this, was supposed to be on FM rn (core rotation) but it got moved to next month. So i will be taking a comat (DO version of shelf) in feb of fourth year like two weeks before match 😂😂

bruh idk if i even remember what diabetes is or how insulin works
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My last Comat is on Friday! (Emergency medicine). I celebrate by getting my 2nd Covid vaccine afterwards lol.

but then I have to take a BS in house “end of discipline” underserved exam 4 weeks after
 
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Prehealth1011 said:
What's this NRMP email? I didn't get anything from them in a while!
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I literally just got it...way after OP...

COVID-19 continues to disrupt the medical education community and is again impacting medical school plans for in-person Match Day ceremonies. Therefore, just as we did last year, the NRMP will release the Match results to all applicants at 12:00 p.m. ET on Match Day, Friday, March 19, 2021. This will ensure that all applicants receive results at the same time. For details, please consult the Match Week and SOAP Schedule.

In addition, all the reports NRMP normally provides at 1:00 p.m. ET on Match Day will now be available at 12:00 p.m.
 
frenchyn said:
I literally just got it...way after OP...

COVID-19 continues to disrupt the medical education community and is again impacting medical school plans for in-person Match Day ceremonies. Therefore, just as we did last year, the NRMP will release the Match results to all applicants at 12:00 p.m. ET on Match Day, Friday, March 19, 2021. This will ensure that all applicants receive results at the same time. For details, please consult the Match Week and SOAP Schedule.

In addition, all the reports NRMP normally provides at 1:00 p.m. ET on Match Day will now be available at 12:00 p.m.
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Got it like 30 min later lol almost panicked thinking I forgot to register for the NRMP
 
Noemata said:
This "making sure the NRMP number is correctly entered in ERAS" actually matters when we prepare our ROL in February right? Or do they lock it in January or something?
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It's actually not important at all. Most programs use AAMC number to rank. But go ahead and put it in there -- I'm sure there's some program out there that uses them.
 
Hey guys

DO student

Step 1 226 Step 2 224

Applied anesthsia broadly and currently at 0 interviews. School director said that I would do fine given the amount of programs I applied (>100) and the fact last years class matched everyone including those with lower board scores. Not sure what the next step is. Any one know how SOAP is gonna this year? Do you think there will be more programs available?
 
Itsarainbow said:
Hey guys

DO student

Step 1 226 Step 2 224

Applied anesthsia broadly and currently at 0 interviews. School director said that I would do fine given the amount of programs I applied (>100) and the fact last years class matched everyone including those with lower board scores. Not sure what the next step is. Any one know how SOAP is gonna this year? Do you think there will be more programs available?
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Hey fam, I am so sorry. It's all a guess but I believe there will be more spots in SOAP than normal, and the powers that be must have thought so too since they added a special 4th round for us. I hope everything works out for you, but maybe have a backup idea ready. Like if you can stomach IM, get some letters and personal statement ready. Or even consider personally if you would apply for an intern year in whatever to reapply for an advanced anesthesia program next cycle.
 
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Itsarainbow said:
Hey guys

DO student

Step 1 226 Step 2 224

Applied anesthsia broadly and currently at 0 interviews. School director said that I would do fine given the amount of programs I applied (>100) and the fact last years class matched everyone including those with lower board scores. Not sure what the next step is. Any one know how SOAP is gonna this year? Do you think there will be more programs available?
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What is your back up plan?
 
One thing I've been realizing more and more from reading on here, reddit, and the spreadsheets is that Step 2 is quickly becoming very important for most specialties. Over and over I've read about people being screwed over with little to no invites and the common theme is usually this: Low Step 2, No improvement in score from Step 1, or Step 2 not taken in time to be submitted on day 1 of ERAS.

And on the flip side I've read about a lot of applicants doing great with 15+ invites who had a low Step 1 but a huge improvement in Step 2. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, but it's hard to ignore a repeating pattern. In my opinion Step 2 is quickly becoming the new Step 1. If you're a 3rd year reading this, I suggest you start busting your ass for a good Step 2.
 
MakeLifeHappen13 said:
One thing I've been realizing more and more from reading on here, reddit, and the spreadsheets is that Step 2 is quickly becoming very important for most specialties. Over and over I've read about people being screwed over with little to no invites and the common theme is usually this: Low Step 2, No improvement in score from Step 1, or Step 2 not taken in time to be submitted on day 1 of ERAS.

And on the flip side I've read about a lot of applicants doing great with 15+ invites who had a low Step 1 but a huge improvement in Step 2. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, but it's hard to ignore a repeating pattern. In my opinion Step 2 is quickly becoming the new Step 1. If you're a 3rd year reading this, I suggest you start busting your ass for a good Step 2.
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This must be specialty specific. I've heard some like EM care a lot about step 2. But I think the majority of people apply without a step 2 score back yet, especially during this year. I know me and all my friends were testing in Dec or later.
 
MakeLifeHappen13 said:
One thing I've been realizing more and more from reading on here, reddit, and the spreadsheets is that Step 2 is quickly becoming very important for most specialties. Over and over I've read about people being screwed over with little to no invites and the common theme is usually this: Low Step 2, No improvement in score from Step 1, or Step 2 not taken in time to be submitted on day 1 of ERAS.

And on the flip side I've read about a lot of applicants doing great with 15+ invites who had a low Step 1 but a huge improvement in Step 2. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, but it's hard to ignore a repeating pattern. In my opinion Step 2 is quickly becoming the new Step 1. If you're a 3rd year reading this, I suggest you start busting your ass for a good Step 2.
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Is this why Step 2 suddenly became way harder? And why Step 3 suddenly became important with bored MS4s already Ankiing their way to Step 3?
 
MakeLifeHappen13 said:
One thing I've been realizing more and more from reading on here, reddit, and the spreadsheets is that Step 2 is quickly becoming very important for most specialties. Over and over I've read about people being screwed over with little to no invites and the common theme is usually this: Low Step 2, No improvement in score from Step 1, or Step 2 not taken in time to be submitted on day 1 of ERAS.

And on the flip side I've read about a lot of applicants doing great with 15+ invites who had a low Step 1 but a huge improvement in Step 2. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, but it's hard to ignore a repeating pattern. In my opinion Step 2 is quickly becoming the new Step 1. If you're a 3rd year reading this, I suggest you start busting your ass for a good Step 2.
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I have found this to be very true in IM and even have had interviewers mention step 2 in particular. I had a low-ish (223) step one but really big improvement (250) on step 2, definitely have gotten lots of love because of it that I would not have gotten with just step 1
 
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hawthorn9797 said:
I have found this to be very true in IM and even have had interviewers mention step 2 in particular. I had a low-ish (223) step one but really big improvement (250) on step 2, definitely have gotten lots of love because of it that I would not have gotten with just step 1
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I'll double down on this. I applied IM but had a subpar s2 score, just a slight improvement from s1, and it's been brought up in every university-affiliated interview I've had, and a few community programs as well.
 
MakeLifeHappen13 said:
And on the flip side I've read about a lot of applicants doing great with 15+ invites who had a low Step 1 but a huge improvement in Step 2. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, but it's hard to ignore a repeating pattern. In my opinion Step 2 is quickly becoming the new Step 1. If you're a 3rd year reading this, I suggest you start busting your ass for a good Step 2.
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I got 40+ interviews - low step 1 high step 2 and even at T10 and T20. I ended up dropping those though since nobody got time for malignancy and there’s no need to hoard But if someone is out there and devastated over their step 1 like I was - there is hope!
 
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I’ll add to the discussion by saying that I was able to get many interviews in comparison to other peers and I think having a complete app(strong step 2) helped me get more than I was originally anticipating. Whereas I had friends who waited to get step 2 done and only after having a score did more interviews flow their way.
 
efle said:
Hmm I suppose it does make sense that in a year with COVID disrupting our MS3-MS4, PDs would pay attention to Step 2 CK to be sure we won't show up deficient.
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I will however say that plenty of folks including myself had their step 2ck cancelled a couple of times. I definitely hustled to get it on time. But I think step 2ck will definitely become more relevant in the next year or so.
 
As long as we're sharing anecdotes: Low step 1, lower step 2 (percentage wise) and I ended up getting interviews at all but 1 of the programs I applied to. Only Harvard even waited for my step 2 score to come back before offering the interview. My tests were pretty in line with barely passing my medicine shelf and barely failing my surgery shelf (did decent on the retake out of sheer terror). I'm by no means the rockstar of my med school class, but I've got some pretty unique interests in medicine and I've worked hard to distinguish myself in other ways than on standardized tests. These tests are not the end all and be all. Yes, you have to pass them and, depending on specialty, certain residencies may put more weight on them, but what will distinguish you are the things that you are passionate about and how effectively you can demonstrate a track record of working for those things and explain the impact of what you want to accomplish in medicine.

If you want to feel good though, go back to your step 1 UWorld Qbank after you've been doing the step 2 Qbank for a while. Let's be real - I never made it through any of the Qbanks, but now it feels almost recreational to be able to practice with zero stakes and get to feel smart (at least for a while until intern year steamrolls me).🤣
 
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