Community College Issues

[drdiscouraged]

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I'm a freshman and this summer I made a B and a C in Calc 1+2 and B's in Govt 1+2 at a community college. At the time I didn't care about the grade because I thought only the credit transfered and I was trying to get some hours out of the way, but now I've learned that Med School will look at the grade and not only will that bring down my GPA but it will also look bad to get a C in a prereq at a community college.

Unfortunately, I have already sent these grades to my current 4 year college and claimed credit. So is there any way to unclaim credit???

What should I do? I don't want to start college right off the bat with a 2.5 sGPA and a 3.0 cGPA!

 

[Pons Asinorum]

I'm a freshman and this summer I made a B and a C in Calc 1+2 and B's in Govt 1+2 at a community college. At the time I didn't care about the grade because I thought only the credit transfered and I was trying to get some hours out of the way, but now I've learned that Med School will look at the grade and not only will that bring down my GPA but it will also look bad to get a C in a prereq at a community college.

Unfortunately, I have already sent these grades to my current 4 year college and claimed credit. So is there any way to unclaim credit???

What should I do? I don't want to start college right off the bat with a 2.5 sGPA and a 3.0 cGPA!

Caribbean, unfortunately.

 

[wristbandMD]

You have four years to make up for it. You'll be fine. If need be, you could retake the courses in a couple years when you have your med pre-reqs out of the way.

 

[Food]

Hah - it's fine. Make sure you do well on everything you take at the 4 year school

 

[drdiscouraged]

Dang. 🙁

Well if I talk to some advisors and get it so I don't have to accept these credits would you guys recommend that or just go with the B's and C's, save myself time and money and go from there?

 

[CougarMD]

You have no choice. Once you take a class at a school, ANY school, it counts. You don't get to just pretend it didn't happen.

In fact, if you try to do that, another school (i.e. medical school) can revoke your acceptance when (not if) they find out. Even if you hadn't transferred the credit to your college, you would have to report it to AMCAS when you apply to medical school. Those are the breaks.


It is not a big deal. You have a ton of units to make up for this. Do you honestly think that not a single doctor in the world hasn't gotten a bad grade? It is FINE. Stop stressing. Do better from now on.

 

[TriagePreMed]

Dang. 🙁

Well if I talk to some advisors and get it so I don't have to accept these credits would you guys recommend that or just go with the B's and C's, save myself time and money and go from there?

If you can convince the school to get them to become W grades or disappear from their transcript, go with that.

 

[ILikeDrugs]

You could always retake them and take the average of the two grades, which is what AMCAS will do.

 

[LizzyM]

You could always retake them and take the average of the two grades, which is what AMCAS will do.

Osteopathic medical schools will substitute the new grade for the old so in that regard, taking the courses over again is helpful. Allopathic medical schools will average everything so you might just as well move on and take other courses in which you do well.

In the end your gpa will have a denominator of 120 credits or more so those 12 credits will contribute very little to the overall gpa. Chalk it up to immaturity and work toward a strong upward trend and the adcom just might draw that conclusion and forgive you your slacking in the run-up to real college.

 

[drdiscouraged]

If you can convince the school to get them to become W grades or disappear from their transcript, go with that.

Would I have to convince the community college for them to disappear? Because that is not going to happen. What I could do is perhaps convince my 4 year school not to give me credit for these classes, but what good would that do if I still have to report on AMCAS my grades from all colleges?

 

[ucsdhopeful]

Would I have to convince the community college for them to disappear? Because that is not going to happen. What I could do is perhaps convince my 4 year school not to give me credit for these classes, but what good would that do if I still have to report on AMCAS my grades from all colleges?

Those grades are staying no matter what. Move on and do well.

 

[drdiscouraged]

Well crap, the government classes were so easy though and the only reason I got Bs was cuz I skipped the last quizzes cuz I thought only the credit would transfer 😡😡😡 so that makes this extremely frustrating.

Thanks everyone for responding though.


If I think its going to take me longer than 4 years to graduate, would it do anything if I took these classes over again in my 4th or 5th year?

 

[the duck]

Well crap, the government classes were so easy though and the only reason I got Bs was cuz I skipped the last quizzes cuz I thought only the credit would transfer 😡😡😡 so that makes this extremely frustrating.

Thanks everyone for responding though.


If I think its going to take me longer than 4 years to graduate, would it do anything if I took these classes over again in my 4th or 5th year?

Basically, you were lazy and decided only to go to the class for the credit, not to learn stuff. You were disrespectful to the professor by not showing up for quizes, and now your upset that you weren't aware of the fact that the grades don't go away. Knowledge you could have gained with a simple google search. Stop complaining and move on with your life.

 

[Electronegative]

Well crap, the government classes were so easy though and the only reason I got Bs was cuz I skipped the last quizzes cuz I thought only the credit would transfer 😡😡😡 so that makes this extremely frustrating.

Thanks everyone for responding though.


If I think its going to take me longer than 4 years to graduate, would it do anything if I took these classes over again in my 4th or 5th year?

What's done is done, you don't get to choose which school's transcripts you're going to provide during the applications season, you will be required to provide transcripts from all schools you attended even if you took non-credit classes. That one C won't hurt you especially since you're still a freshmen, if you do well in your future classes and get As and Bs that C will avarage out and probably won't affect your GPA at all.

 

[drdiscouraged]

Basically, you were lazy and decided only to go to the class for the credit, not to learn stuff. You were disrespectful to the professor by not showing up for quizes, and now your upset that you weren't aware of the fact that the grades don't go away. Knowledge you could have gained with a simple google search. Stop complaining and move on with your life.

Well at the time I didn't know that I would want to attempt to try to hopefully have what it takes to work hard enought to go for the very slim chance that it takes to get into med school.

So I was just trying to knock some credit out of the way that wasn't essential to my major so I could save my parents some money and myself some time. I will just learn from my mistakes and try hard from now on.

I am under the impression that one only needs 2 semesters of math, but if I wanted to boost my science GPA could I take like statistics or maybe calc 1+2 over again and would that count in the sGPA?

 

[pianola]

Well at the time I didn't know that I would want to attempt to try to hopefully have what it takes to work hard enought to go for the very slim chance that it takes to get into med school.

So I was just trying to knock some credit out of the way that wasn't essential to my major so I could save my parents some money and myself some time. I will just learn from my mistakes and try hard from now on.

I am under the impression that one only needs 2 semesters of math, but if I wanted to boost my science GPA could I take like statistics or maybe calc 1+2 over again and would that count in the sGPA?

¥es, you could take them over again. You could also take upper division classes and do well in them. Whichever you think you'll do best with.

 

[drdiscouraged]

¥es, you could take them over again. You could also take upper division classes and do well in them. Whichever you think you'll do best with.

lol, I dont think upper division math is a good idea for me... How about statistics? And do you think its a good idea for me to retake the B's in government?

Also, if I do all this I will have to complete about 160 hours so would it be acceptable to graduate in 5 years?

 

[pianola]

lol, I dont think upper division math is a good idea for me... How about statistics? And do you think its a good idea for me to retake the B's in government?

Also, if I do all this I will have to complete about 160 hours so would it be acceptable to graduate in 5 years?

Why will you have to complete 160 hours? You have *some* flexibility in what courses you take unless your major + gen education requirements takes up the entire 120 hours...which I would doubt.

Stats is useful for medschool, IMO. Only retake the government class if you really want to take it (IMO).

If possible, try to graduate in 4 years...

 

[drdiscouraged]

Why will you have to complete 160 hours? You have *some* flexibility in what courses you take unless your major + gen education requirements takes up the entire 120 hours...which I would doubt.

Stats is useful for medschool, IMO. Only retake the government class if you really want to take it (IMO).

If possible, try to graduate in 4 years...

Oh do you mean like using Bio, chem, physics and Orgo to satisfy some kind of core curriculum requirement or what? I don't see how to do it when one's major doesn't require any science- i.e. business...

thanks for the help btw, i'm just trying to get everything sorted out before I put my head down and go for it

 

[pianola]

Oh do you mean like using Bio, chem, physics and Orgo to satisfy some kind of core curriculum requirement or what? I don't see how to do it when one's major doesn't require any science- i.e. business...

thanks for the help btw, i'm just trying to get everything sorted out before I put my head down and go for it

Sure np.

You should still have "extra classes" left over even if you major in a humanities subject.

For example: I double majored in two humanities and minored in chemistry and still took at least 6 elective classes that didn't fulfill any of the above, although one of them counted as a gen ed requirement. It's very doable. I didn't take any summer classes either.

Look at exactly what your school requires, what your major requires, what pre-med courses require, and then see how many credits you have left over. You should definitely still have some "extra space".

Maybe not a TON, but enough to make up a few classes.

 

[drdiscouraged]

Okay, thanks again. One last self serving question and then you will not see me on this site for another 2 or 3 years (unless i get addicted)

I used a GPA calculator with what I believed I could make in each course based on what I hear on here about difficulty-

Calc- already have a 2.5 for this FML
chem- hoping for an 4.0, prob get an A- though
Bio- 3.0
Orgo- 2.0
Stats- 4.0
phys- 4.0

so that gives me like a 3.15 sGPA... and I think the above numbers would be very hard to achieve so can I get into med school with a 3.15 sGPA and ~3.6 cGPA?

 

[pianola]

Okay, thanks again. One last self serving question and then you will not see me on this site for another 2 or 3 years (unless i get addicted)

I used a GPA calculator with what I believed I could make in each course based on what I hear on here about difficulty-

Calc- already have a 2.5 for this FML
chem- hoping for an 4.0, prob get an A- though
Bio- 3.0
Orgo- 2.0
Stats- 4.0
phys- 4.0

so that gives me like a 3.15 sGPA... and I think the above numbers would be very hard to achieve so can I get into med school with a 3.15 sGPA and ~3.6 cGPA?

hmm. My advice, don't speculate on grades...

Yes a 3.15 sGPA will make it hard for you to get into medical school. 🙁 The trick isn't to avoid science classes but embrace them! (The easy ones, that is 😉). Haha, I'd better make sure that I stay anonymous on SDN .

 

[drdiscouraged]

my bad for lying but if you retake a class do they take the average grade of the two but keep the hours of that class the same?

Like would it be a 3.0 for 4 hours or 8 hours if I retook calc 2 and made an A?

Also, does my current intro to geology class count in sGPA? It has a lab btw

 

[LizzyM]

Okay, thanks again. One last self serving question and then you will not see me on this site for another 2 or 3 years (unless i get addicted)

I used a GPA calculator with what I believed I could make in each course based on what I hear on here about difficulty-

Calc- already have a 2.5 for this FML
chem- hoping for an 4.0, prob get an A- though
Bio- 3.0
Orgo- 2.0
Stats- 4.0
phys- 4.0

so that gives me like a 3.15 sGPA... and I think the above numbers would be very hard to achieve so can I get into med school with a 3.15 sGPA and ~3.6 cGPA?

If you think that the best you can do is a B in Biology and a C in O-chem, do yourself a favor and change your plans now. Either aim to get nothing less than a B+ in everything (and a gpa closer to 3.67) or make other career plans.

 

[pianola]

my bad for lying but if you retake a class do they take the average grade of the two but keep the hours of that class the same?

Like would it be a 3.0 for 4 hours or 8 hours if I retook calc 2 and made an A?

Also, does my current intro to geology class count in sGPA? It has a lab btw

8 hours. Depends on the title/content of your geology class - but it's probably NOT considered a science class IIRC.

If you think that the best you can do is a B in Biology and a C in O-chem, do yourself a favor and change your plans now. Either aim to get nothing less than a B+ in everything (and a gpa closer to 3.67) or make other career plans.

Yeah, this. It may sound harsh, but it's just true.

 

[drdiscouraged]

If you think that the best you can do is a B in Biology and a C in O-chem, do yourself a favor and change your plans now. Either aim to get nothing less than a B+ in everything (and a gpa closer to 3.67) or make other career plans.

I completely agree, I'm going to retake calculus and if I get low B's and C's in ochem and bio etc. I will readily accept that I am not cut out for medicine

 

[Cboseak1]

You have no choice. Once you take a class at a school, ANY school, it counts. You don't get to just pretend it didn't happen.

This is true, it always counts. When you apply to medical school you are required to send all transcripts, even if you just applied for financial aide and didn't go (in my case it just didnt come through in time for the semester) That's right, you even would have to send a blank transcript if you applied for financial aide even if you didn't go