Concern about anti-lgbt behavior

[JRthe3]

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After my interview at ______ school I went to a party that the MS2s there were throwing. While chatting with some of the current students, one interrupted me and said "wait... you're not a f@g are you?"

I was floored. I guess coming from where I did my undergrad I was spoiled by people who weren't so ignorant and I had forgotten that people like this exist, even in supposedly educated environments like med school. Obviously this was a big concern of mine, not just this one jerk, but the fact that none of the other med students even batted an eye at his comment.

My question is, do I raise this concern with the director of admissions? This is a big step back in me attending his school, and I feel like he should know. My concerns are that 1) he would feel the same as the student and if I decided to go to his school, we would be starting off on a bad foot then, 2) he would think i'm making a big deal out of nothing, again starting off on a bad foot, 3) he might think that I am using it as a leveraging tool, ie: I dont want to go to your school, unless you make it up to me with a sweet scholarship.


Thoughts?

 

[Jolie South]

does this school have a second look weekend? you could go and try to get some frank responses from current students about the situation.

there are ignorant people everywhere. just because you encountered one person that made a rude comment while most likely under the influence of alcohol doesn't mean that everyone in the class will think or act that way.

i definitely think that what happened to you is inexcusable but i would do some more research before completely writing off this school. go to second look weekend and try to get in touch with current students. i'm not sure there's much the dean of admissions could do, but i suppose it couldn't hurt to present your concerns if they are that serious.

 

[Textuality]

It happens everywhere, no matter how educated the group, there's always one insensitive a-hole homophobe who has buddies who just don't care about his behavior. I wouldn't judge the whole school by it.

I'd say to wait and see if you get accepted, and then go to the second look weekend. The one that Pitt has includes a LGBT dinner event, and your school might have something similar, and you can go and ask them what the environment is like and if the general school population is accepting and makes it a comfortable place to be. And you'll be able to meet some of the LGBT community there.

So yeah, that's my advice. Wait to see if your accepted first, and go to second look to get a better feel. If you're still uncomfortable afterwards, then by all means take it up with the dean and let him know your concerns.

 

[flaahless]

After my interview at ______ school I went to a party that the MS2s there were throwing. While chatting with some of the current students, one interrupted me and said "wait... you're not a f@g are you?"

I was floored. I guess coming from where I did my undergrad I was spoiled by people who weren't so ignorant and I had forgotten that people like this exist, even in supposedly educated environments like med school. Obviously this was a big concern of mine, not just this one jerk, but the fact that none of the other med students even batted an eye at his comment.

My question is, do I raise this concern with the director of admissions? This is a big step back in me attending his school, and I feel like he should know. My concerns are that 1) he would feel the same as the student and if I decided to go to his school, we would be starting off on a bad foot then, 2) he would think i'm making a big deal out of nothing, again starting off on a bad foot, 3) he might think that I am using it as a leveraging tool, ie: I dont want to go to your school, unless you make it up to me with a sweet scholarship.


Thoughts?

Yo man, that's tough. I can't begin to imagine how I would handle that situation. But I agree with textuality in that there are jerks everywhere and you shouldn't let a few bad apples preclude you from going to an amazing school. Look at it as an opportunity to educate them so hopefully they can educate their friends, and their friends' friends, etc. Sorry you have to deal with stuff like that. Stay up and best of luck to you.

 

[ScutMonkey08]

In what context did the student ask you this question?

 

[Drogba]

I agree in not letting this event disproportionately characterize the school. I do however think you should notify a school official because people who express these sentiments in public or private should not be allowed the convenience of silent acceptance. Whoevere spoke to you like that should be ashamed and should not be be given any further indication that his behavior is even remotely acceptable or that his bigotry will be tolerated.

 

[armybound]

What would your desired result be from this experience? Do you want the Dean to assure you that LGBT students are welcome? Do you want that student kicked out? Do you want an apology?

I'm not condoning what the student said, but I'm not seeing a real beneficial outcome here.

 

[135892]

Get over it. If you don't want to go to the school because of this one guy's comment, then don't. I hate how people always want to make a huge deal out of every little thing.

 

[Textuality]

Get over it. If you don't want to go to the school because of this one guy's comment, then don't. I hate how people always want to make a huge deal out of every little thing.

Gotta love the empathy here right?

You might think it's a little thing, but to some people it's not. "***" is considered extremely offensive to some people and inappropriate. It's like if someone started using the "N-word" in reference to a URM student. You probably wouldn't think it was a "small thing" then right? And you could probably bet that student would complain to the dean.

 

[riceman04]

Get over it. If you don't want to go to the school because of this one guy's comment, then don't. I hate how people always want to make a huge deal out of every little thing.

Obviously the OP got a rude awakening. But I don't think we are in a position to consider how much some comment/action may actually affect him. Such a comment probably seems trivial to you b/c you probably have not had to deal with such an issue. But then again I could be dead wrong.

I see the OP's issue as being comparable to someone making a denigrating remark towards me simply b/c of my race...and I would not take a comment lightly.

 

[riceman04]

Gotta love the empathy here right?

You might think it's a little thing, but to some people it's not. "***" is considered extremely offensive to some people and inappropriate. It's like if someone started using the "N-word" in reference to a URM student. You probably wouldn't think it was a "small thing" then right? And you could probably bet that student would complain to the dean.

ha

you said it better! much more concise!👍

 

[Kaustikos]

Obviously the OP got a rude awakening. But I don't think we are in a position to consider how much some comment/action may actually affect him. Such a comment probably seems trivial to you b/c you probably have not had to deal with such an issue. But then again I could be dead wrong.

I see the OP's issue as being comparable to someone making a denigrating remark towards me simply b/c of my race...and I would not take a comment lightly.

But it's no reason to take it up with the Dean. We all say things we wish we could take back, especially while under the influence. And let's not forget, it's your word against his, you wouldn't want to be known as "the boy who cried wolf" because they may take that students side over yours.

It was a bad remark, if it had really offended you; take it up with the person who said it. Don't try and rally behind a message board We're obviously not going to say "Oh, I hate gays/lesbians/etc etc", but I mean, so what?

The reality is; you're going to meet someone who says something like that; whether it be med school or a hospital.

I worked at a pharmacy and a customer was complaining about the heat and looked at me and said "Well, you're probably fine. Your kind is probably used to this kind of heat." Apparantly being born arab/northern african makes you immune to heat.

Don't let this remark make you NOT want to go to that school.

 

[Drogba]

What would your desired result be from this experience? Do you want the Dean to assure you that LGBT students are welcome? Do you want that student kicked out? Do you want an apology?

I'm not condoning what the student said, but I'm not seeing a real beneficial outcome here.

I don't think one needs to see a personal benefit to speak up in this situation. As a matter of principle, something like this, especially in the context of a professional school application, should not glossed over so casually. Furthermore, the dean deserves to know the representation his students are giving of their school.

 

[scrubsaresexy]

Get over it. If you don't want to go to the school because of this one guy's comment, then don't. I hate how people always want to make a huge deal out of every little thing.

I agree. What that student said wasn't very nice, and it was rude, but welcome to life. That person is allowed to have that opinion without being judged as a terrible person, and I think that bringing it to the attention of the director of admissions will make you seem a little hypersensitive. If you think you're going to make through an career as a doctor without having mean/rude/disrespectful/whatever things said to you, I think you're in for a rude awakening.

 

[Cegar]

Someone made a tasteless comment at a private party while possibly intoxicated. Oh my.

Going to the dean would make you a tool of epic proportions.

 

[Textuality]

I don't think one needs to see a personal benefit to speak up in this situation. As a matter of principle, something like this, especially in the context of a professional school application, should not glossed over so casually. Furthermore, the dean deserves to know the representation his students are giving of their school.

If it was a private party though, I think I'd personally just let it go. It's one thing if it was your tour guide or student interviewer, but if it was some random student, then you should probably brush it off. (Though next time you should definitely set him straight about how rude that is). Again, I would look up the LGBT group there and get some candid opinions from them about what the school environment is like if you're really concerned about how comfortable you'll be there.

 

[Jolie South]

If it was a private party though, I think I'd personally just let it go. It's one thing if it was your tour guide or student interviewer, but if it was some random student, then you should probably brush it off. (Though next time you should definitely set him straight about how rude that is). Again, I would look up the LGBT group there and get some candid opinions from them about what the school environment is like if you're really concerned about how comfortable you'll be there.

that was kinda my thinking as well.

 

[Textuality]

I agree. What that student said wasn't very nice, and it was rude, but welcome to life. That person is allowed to have that opinion without being judged as a terrible person, and I think that bringing it to the attention of the director of admissions will make you seem a little hypersensitive. If you think you're going to make through an career as a doctor without having mean/rude/disrespectful/whatever things said to you, I think you're in for a rude awakening.

If we always just turned the other cheek, then nothing would ever change. And I'm sorry, but if someone's opinion is that my sexual orientation makes me a bad/immoral person, then I WILL judge them for being judgmental and ignorant. Sometimes you have to speak up. I don't think the director should be involved, but I also don't think you have should have to lie down and take it because "it happens".

Also, it's one thing to get that sort of treatment from patients, but it's much worse to get it from people who are your peers and who you hope to respect and befriend.

 

[scrubsaresexy]

And I'm sorry, but if someone's opinion is that my sexual orientation makes me a bad/immoral person, then I WILL judge them for being judgmental and ignorant.

Now wait just a minute. This person, according to the OP, said NOTHING about the person saying that being a '***' makes a person a bad/immoral person. And remember...this person was drunk, so he probably didn't even mean it, it probably just slipped out. If you don't want to be judged so quickly, then don't be so quick to judge others.

Have fun trying to save the world, one moderately offensive person at a time. I'll be busy turning the over cheek. I certainly am not going to be throwing any stones on this one; I've said plenty of offensive things that I regretted later.

 

[Textuality]

Haha, I don't really have any hope that I'll be able to change people from saying stupid things. I'm just saying, if somebody calls me a "****" or makes an issue of my friends being "fags", I'll let them know I don't think it's OK.

I guess I do judge people who make homosexual/URM/religious-minority people feel uncomfortable because they are different. I'll work on trying to be more tolerant about that kind of behavior though.

Anyways, I don't think the OP is trying to get that person in trouble, I think he just wants to know that the campus isn't full of homophobic people, because that would probably not make for a fun med school experience.

 

[Kaustikos]

Haha, I don't really have any hope that I'll be able to change people from saying stupid things. I'm just saying, if somebody calls me a "****" or makes an issue of my friends being "fags", I'll let them know I don't think it's OK.

I guess I do judge people who make homosexual/URM/religious-minority people feel uncomfortable because they are different. I'll work on trying to be more tolerant about that kind of behavior though.

Anyways, I don't think the OP is trying to get that person in trouble, I think he just wants to know that the campus isn't full of homophobic people, because that would probably not make for a fun med school experience.

I think the guy said it immaturely and without meaning it in an insulting manner. He was drunk. If he had said "You better not be one of those man loving, d*** hugging f**s", then it would be offensive and not tolerable.

OR he might have been on a hallucinogen and thought the op was a cigarette....

 

[JackDanielMD]

Mother of god.... I do believe that today will forever be known as the day the world quit turning.

 

[aaj117]

I think the guy said it immaturely and without meaning it in an insulting manner. He was drunk. If he had said "You better not be one of those man loving, d*** hugging f**s", then it would be offensive and not tolerable.

OR he might have been on a hallucinogen and thought the op was a cigarette....

haha except for the entertaining cigarette comment (which i actually laughed out loud when i read), there is no way to call someone a *** without being insulting. Sorry, it's just not happening. The connotation of the word just doesn't allow it. The word gay, for instance, can be used in that sentence without being incredibly rude. There are certain tones where it seems offensive and many where it does not. But *** is not the same, it's pretty much always derogatory, and if someone needs to ask like that, they're probably not the type of person most of us want to be going to med school with.

That said, for the OP, there is unfortunately going to be a couple of closed minded and rude or obnoxious or downright hateful people in every class. You need to see if you can gauge the overall environment of this school and then avoid that person, or if that person is in the majority and this is not someplace that you could be comfortable.

 

[NewmansOwn]

Mother of god.... I do believe that today will forever be known as the day the world quit turning.

You again? Ugh your "I'm a cool @sshole" routine is so tired and contrived...

Congratulations. You are the 1,000,000th kid to watch too many episodes of Scrubs and think he's Dr. Cox.

 

[Textuality]

I think the guy said it immaturely and without meaning it in an insulting manner. He was drunk. If he had said "You better not be one of those man loving, d*** hugging f**s", then it would be offensive and not tolerable.

OR he might have been on a hallucinogen and thought the op was a cigarette....

Haha...or a bundle of sticks...

Actually, it's never stated he was drunk or tipsy, just that it was at a party. Eh, I've gotten into some confrontations back in the day when I had a girlfriend publicly, and I know some people are just joking around and think they're being friendly/funny, but I've definitely had friends feel seriously intimidated and insulted by innocent comments like that, so I guess I am perhaps a little on the sensitive side when people think throwing words like "***" around is "a little thing" and think the OP is being hyper-sensitive.

I mean, it's nothing to sue over or make a big official fuss about. But I do think it shows a certain amount of bad taste, and I can relate to the OPs concerns about how well he would fit into that school.

 

[WinterLights]

If I were in your situation I would let it go but I would certainly keep a mental note for the next time this kind of nonsense occurs. When and if it does, make an issue out of it then and there. The person that you confront will either apologize or escalate the situation. In the latter case, you will be justified in taking it up with the dean and getting said student kicked out of the school. You should probably also re-evaluate the type of people you hang out with. Their are plenty of naive peons in the world, but that doesn't mean that you have to associate yourself or be social with them.

 

[flaahless]

If I were in your situation I would let it go but I would certainly keep a mental note for the next time this kind of nonsense occurs. When and if it does, make an issue out of it then and there. The person that you confront will either apologize or escalate the situation. In the latter case, you will be justified in taking it up with the dean and getting said student kicked out of the school. You should probably also re-evaluate the type of people you hang out with. Their are plenty of naive peons in the world, but that doesn't mean that you have to associate yourself or be social with them.

Co-sign

 

[bcat85]

I tend to agree with the above posters who say you are probably being a littleeeeee hypersensitive. If someone walked up to me and said "you aren't one of those heteros are you?" or "I bet you're used to the cold given that your ancestors are from Russia" I wouldn't be offended. Now certainly, those are very different because those are characteristics of majority groups in this country, but hear me out here. Be proud of who you are and stand up for who you are, and that means not taking offense when someone says something that is actually true about you. Now, if someone is acting prejudicial against you or speaking to you in a derogatory way (which is certainly possible because of the nature of the encounter) because of who you are, that is a different story. If you feel threatened or biased against, talk to the dean about it. But if you do not sense that there was any ill intent (or, as previously stated, the guy was just being a drunk d***head), let it go.

 

[kami333]

So OP what was the context of the conversation?

There's a big difference between:

"Do you think they have a chance passing that domestic registery bill?"
"Maybe. It would be good for LGBT couples to be able to be covered under their SO's health insurance."
"wait... you're not a f@g are you?"

and:

"Yeah, stay away from the girls in your classes, they are a bunch of cold stuck up b!tches. The nursing students are where it is at, it's just like freshmen in college. Say, I think they are having a nursing school party on the next block, lets go and find one that'll like a nice mustache ride"
"Nah, it's ok, I think I'll stay here."
"wait... you're not a f@g are you?"

 

[mc4435]

^ In which one of those situations do you think it's okay to use that word?

 

[Textuality]

I tend to agree with the above posters who say you are probably being a littleeeeee hypersensitive. If someone walked up to me and said "you aren't one of those heteros are you?" or "I bet you're used to the cold given that your ancestors are from Russia" I wouldn't be offended. Now certainly, those are very different because those are characteristics of majority groups in this country, but hear me out here. Be proud of who you are and stand up for who you are, and that means not taking offense when someone says something that is actually true about you. Now, if someone is acting prejudicial against you or speaking to you in a derogatory way (which is certainly possible because of the nature of the encounter) because of who you are, that is a different story. If you feel threatened or biased against, talk to the dean about it. But if you do not sense that there was any ill intent (or, as previously stated, the guy was just being a drunk d***head), let it go.

For me, it's kind of like if you were of mixed ethnicities, and somebody asked "you're not a N***er are you?" Even if you were african american in background, it's still insulting right?

 

[thebeatblitz]

Are you trolling? Who comes out of the blue and asks if you're ***? Were you wearing a rainbow shirt or something?

 

[bth7]

Get over it. If you don't want to go to the school because of this one guy's comment, then don't. I hate how people always want to make a huge deal out of every little thing.

I hate the intolerance represented by the comment of that guy at the party.

It would take some courage, but I think it's a great idea to raise the issue with admissions. Actually, I think they would be fairly impressed that you were willing to raise this type of concern. It shows a lot of character on your part. A cool, level-headed, but effective response to stupidity is a big part of what makes a good doctor.

bth

 

[Textuality]

Are you trolling? Who comes out of the blue and asks if you're ***? Were you wearing a rainbow shirt or something?

I've actually seen this happen to my friends at parties, believe it or not. It's not that rare.

 

[flaahless]

I tend to agree with the above posters who say you are probably being a littleeeeee hypersensitive. If someone walked up to me and said "you aren't one of those heteros are you?" or "I bet you're used to the cold given that your ancestors are from Russia" I wouldn't be offended. Now certainly, those are very different because those are characteristics of majority groups in this country, but hear me out here. Be proud of who you are and stand up for who you are, and that means not taking offense when someone says something that is actually true about you. Now, if someone is acting prejudicial against you or speaking to you in a derogatory way (which is certainly possible because of the nature of the encounter) because of who you are, that is a different story. If you feel threatened or biased against, talk to the dean about it. But if you do not sense that there was any ill intent (or, as previously stated, the guy was just being a drunk d***head), let it go.

It's not merely the word that is offensive, but rather the condescension, hate etc. that is associated with the term. Also, how can in NOT be used in a derogatory manner? The OP has all the right to be concerned.

 

[flaahless]

For me, it's kind of like if you were of mixed ethnicities, and somebody asked "you're not a N***er are you?" Even if you were african american in background, it's still insulting right?

Ehh... I wouldn't equate the two. Not because the f-word isn't offensive, but because they are separate issues.

 

[flaahless]

I hate the intolerance represented by the comment of that guy at the party.

It would take some courage, but I think it's a great idea to raise the issue with admissions. Actually, I think they would be fairly impressed that you were willing to raise this type of concern. It shows a lot of character on your part. A cool, level-headed, but effective response to stupidity is a big part of what makes a good doctor.

bth

Ehh... I wouldn't go to admissions first. I would confront the person that said the derogatory comment first and explain to him/her that it was offensive and disrespectful. Only if that didn't work would I go to the higher-ups.

I think everyone deserves that respect. If I slpiped up and said something stupid that offended someone, I would hope they confronted me about it and hopefully we could squash it.

 

[Textuality]

Ehh... I wouldn't equate the two. Not because the f-word isn't offensive, but because they are separate issues.

True. My point is just that for many gay people, the word can conjure up associations with violence, discrimination, and persecution, and is considered a hateful and malicious term.

 

[Cegar]

Ehh... I wouldn't go to admissions first. I would confront the person that said the derogatory comment first and explain to him/her that it was offensive and disrespectful. Only if that didn't work would I go to the higher-ups.

I think everyone deserves that respect. If I slpiped up and said something stupid that offended someone, I would hope they confronted me about it and hopefully we could squash it.

I recommend against this.

 

[JackDanielMD]

You again? Ugh your "I'm a cool @sshole" routine is so tired and contrived...

Congratulations. You are the 1,000,000th kid to watch too many episodes of Scrubs and think he's Dr. Cox.

Did you really just enter this thread to call me an @sshole? Sounds like someone has a grudge against me from old threads. Well here it is... I'm really sorry I hurt your feelings...does that make it all better? I just couldn't bear to continue with life if I thought you were still mad at me.

P.S. I really like your fine line of Italian Sauces.

 

[bth7]

Here's some resources for the OP:

Recent articles:
Gay Discrimination Still Exists in Medical Schools AAMC reporter.
Gay Men and Lesbians in Medicine: Has Discrimination Left the Room? JAMA.
Sexual orientation and medicine Wikipedia

Groups:
Gay and Lesbian Medical Association
American Medical Student's LGBT medicine group

bth

 

[Cegar]

Did you really just enter this thread to call me an @sshole? Sounds like someone has a grudge against me from old threads. Well here it is... I'm really sorry I hurt your feelings...does that make it all better? I just couldn't bear to continue with life if I thought you were still mad at me.

P.S. I really like your fine line of Italian Sauces.

I prefer the juices.

 

[BMBPSU2008]

OP...

Why didn't you just call the guy out right then and there. All that needed to be said was "Excuse me, I don't appreciate that kind of language" or something to that effect. Then he looks like the a$$hole.

 

[Tin Man]

Has the original poster ever been inside of a high school before? It's ridiculous to be even semi-openly gay and then get offended over every little comment. It's just the result of living in a sheltered world.

Gay people, black people, white people, women, men, soldiers, civilians, youth, the elderly, fat people, thin people, smart people, and stupid people will be attacked for who they are. It's life, and if you haven't been attacked for some reason or another, then welcome to the planet Earth. Enjoy your stay.

It doesn't show character to bring this up with the admissions. It just shows that you're easily offended, which is NOT a good trait for someone who will be working with sick, angry, tired, stressed people of all shapes, colors, and personalities. You aren't going to be changing the guy's mind on what he thinks about gay people, you aren't going to get him kicked out, and you may not even be able to prove he did anything. If you're going to be working with the public, it's time to put on big boy pants and get ready for the real world, where this is going to be coming up all the time, and you're going to be dealing with it constantly.

Nowhere am I saying that you should hide yourself from the world and repress who you are. But the guy didn't commit a crime, and for all intents and purposes, did nothing more than express an opinion verbally. He didn't even accuse you of being a "***", just asked if you were. Against you, that's freedom of speech. The school can't do anything about it, and in almost every case where this comes up, there won't be anything you can do about it. So the only real solution is to learn to deal with it now by getting a thicker skin, ESPECIALLY if you're not one to be afraid to express your sexuality openly.

 

[Abilene85]

It would take some courage, but I think it's a great idea to raise the issue with admissions. Actually, I think they would be fairly impressed that you were willing to raise this type of concern. It shows a lot of character on your part. A cool, level-headed, but effective response to stupidity is a big part of what makes a good doctor.

I disagree. It takes courage to stand up to the guy face-to-face. Turning someone in behind their back to the higher ups without confronting them first doesn't take much courage at all.

While I don't approve of "f*g," I think we might be quick to judge the guy from the party. Some of my older relatives still say "colored people," because that was okay at the time and place they grew up...it's just in their vocabulary now. There are still social circles in this country that don't give a second thought to hearing someone say "f*g," so maybe this kid grew up in that setting. And plenty of my middle class frat boy friends use it all the time to refer to each other. I assume that for the OP to get so upset, the word was used in an intentionally derogatory manner at the party. Before becoming so angry, especially so much that you feel the need to say something to administration, you should have been upfront about the word being offensive. Maybe he would have said “oh sorry man…I didn’t mean anything by it.” Or if he continued to use it, then you would have had a bit of a situation.

 

[Textuality]

Or if he continued to use it, then you would have had a bit of a situation.

Yeah...I've gotten into "situations" before. But that was in high school, I haven't gotten into a fist fight since then 🙂

 

[aaj117]

For me, it's kind of like if you were of mixed ethnicities, and somebody asked "you're not a N***er are you?" Even if you were african american in background, it's still insulting right?

Ehh... I wouldn't equate the two. Not because the f-word isn't offensive, but because they are separate issues.

I actually do feel like they're quite similar. I'm mixed, half black and half white. I'm also bisexual, i've dated men and women. I often get asked if i'm a ****, or a ***, or a queer. I also often get asked if im a "****" or a n***er. And to be honest, i feel the exact same amount of dread and anger and frustration hearing both questions. people also like to combine them. I've gotten comments on my mdapps about being a "queer n****r", and i took both terms as offensively, and saw the same lack of understanding and hatred out of the writer in using both terms. honestly, i use the word queer to define myself often, it's a word that some groups claim to have "taken back" and i like it because it defies a strict label, but it's different when it's said in a derogatory way. And *** is not a word that is commonly used in a taken back way, it's almost always derogatory and i'm assuming if someone posted about it, then the tone with which it was said indicated that attitude. It's meant the same way-- something to pick on you about because you're different and someone holds hatred or fear towards you. And i take both the same.

 

[InfinitePour]

😉

haha except for the entertaining cigarette comment (which i actually laughed out loud when i read), there is no way to call someone a *** without being insulting. Sorry, it's just not happening. The connotation of the word just doesn't allow it. The word gay, for instance, can be used in that sentence without being incredibly rude. There are certain tones where it seems offensive and many where it does not. But *** is not the same, it's pretty much always derogatory, and if someone needs to ask like that, they're probably not the type of person most of us want to be going to med school with.

That said, for the OP, there is unfortunately going to be a couple of closed minded and rude or obnoxious or downright hateful people in every class. You need to see if you can gauge the overall environment of this school and then avoid that person, or if that person is in the majority and this is not someplace that you could be comfortable.

Some of you all seem to think that everyone has studied homosexual culture or had prolonged social contact with homosexuals. 🙄

Why would the average guy know which words homosexuals choose to be offended by, especialy if when offended homosexuals just hold a grudge instead of educating the one who offended them?

In rural areas, people often never meet an "out of the closet" homosexual.

 

[Drogba]

😉

Some of you all seem to think that everyone has studied homosexual culture or had prolonged social contact with homosexuals. 🙄

Why would the average guy know which words homosexuals choose to be offended by, especialy if when offended homosexuals just hold a grudge instead of educating the one who offended them?

In rural areas, people often never meet an "out of the closet" homosexual.

I don't think anyone needs to be alerted to the fact that *** is highly derogatory.

 

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I don't think anyone needs to be alerted to the fact that *** is highly derogatory.

I learned that the word is considered more derogatory than other similar words from this thread. I suspect that there are many people more ignorant than I.

I actually thought that "queer" was the most derogatory term, although recently I have become aware of the fact that some use the term to self identify, although perhaps this is like the "n word" in that it depends on from whom the word was spoken ? 😕

Anyway, I am happy that I came across thread, as I will now be cautious to not to drop the f bomb on anyone who may be offended.