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Seriously this. How much time and manpower hours would they save if they just allowed everything to be posted?
haha!! Don't they want to take our income tax???
Perhaps there is a hidden objective. For example, they have to balance out the number of RPh who retire/quit and the number of new ones... or at least maintain some ratio. Those who can't deal w/ the delays will leave the state....
I'm sure something like this would explain the delays.
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I wonder if anyone has connections or somehow can talk to Gov. Brown. He and/or other elected officials can probably get the BOP to explain their handling of the licensing process. Also... the renewal process. I've heard nightmares about that, too.
If we include the last week of July, this week would be 45 days (including sat/sun) no? They seem to mail out by end of week so I'm guessing results by late this week or early next week?
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Those who have taken it in July have not received scores yet either? Now I won't beat myself up as much for stopping checking PSI after they had no July dates after like, July 5.
If you say 60 days, though, we're looking at end of September...:/
Are there any July test takers still waiting for their score?
I just called BOP...according to the receptionist, no scores have been sent out yet. She said she's not even sure if PSI has sent the results to the board yet. Ever since the exam change, it's been taking a very long time for them to receive results. Essentially, we must wait for that 45-60 day mark. I'm not sure who the real turtle is but the waiting game continues....
So basically we don't know, because they just said different things and they work in the same office lol
You won't even be able to do it in a month I bet because 1) it will be November and if the pattern continues they'll block November testing and 2) the board has to give you permission to test again and seeing how long it's taking I wouldn't bet that you'll know within the month.
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has anyone tried calling the licensing office just to see if they can be licensed even though you havent received your score yet
At this rate, we won't get our licenses until like November :[ (assuming we even passed this time around)
Thanks! This is even worst because it will put us back a few months from seeking licensure even plus 91 days that is the time for allowing remediation...
The cycle of cpje process will continue more delayed from now on since Thanksgiving, Christmas, and new year holidays are coming...
My district supervisor said historically it takes about 2 weeks to post but historically seems to not mean squat this year.
Yeah assuming you don't pass you may not be licensed by the time next year's grads graduate. That's GD ridiculous that this state is allowed to get away with this crap.
it's about time we all do something about it. It's the age of computerized exams... . There is absolutely no reason for delays. "As of June 15, 2016, a total of 41,586 pharmacists were licensed by the Board of Pharmacy with active licenses." (BOP Newsletter)
They need reform.
Is there anyone here who is a good writer? We should come up with a generic letter then send it to each and every elected & appointed official across the state. Point out to them the loss of productivity, the tax to government etc...
They need reform.
Is there anyone here who is a good writer? We should come up with a generic letter then send it to each and every elected & appointed official across the state. Point out to them the loss of productivity, the tax to government etc...
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As a licensed Pharmacist in New York, I am utterly shocked as to this insanely long and unacceptable time period it is taking for all you new Cali grads to get licensed by the BOP. I am dating myself a bit here, but back in 2012, I took my MPJE on July 16th, Naplex on Aug 4th, and was licensed by September 13th (I did PGY1 residency so I was waived from having to take the compounding exam, which most of my classmates passed and was not an issue). And my scores for both exams were released within days after taking them. How long has the CABOP been getting away with this?? Jobs and sanity are on the line here, and I cannot imagine being in your shoes during this time. I took the CPJE Aug 31st and was prepared for the wait, thanks to all of you guys, and got my CA intern permit knowing this, and luckily a job willing to wait this out. Regardless, the BOP should not assume this, they are getting away with murder in my opinion and speaking out in any which way you can is the least you can do. I'm sure that because of them, job opportunities have been lost and interest has been accruing on the ridiculously expensive loans a lot of us had to take out. Hang in there everyone, spread the word and try and get a protest or letter, anything to give them a reality check. I'll be a willing participant!!
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Hi everyone,
So I've just looked up the names and addresses of at least some of the officials we should contact regarding the CA BOP.
1. Governor Brown: https://govnews.gov.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
2. California Lieutenant Governor:
http://www.ltg.ca.gov/m_contact.asp
3. Your State Representative & Senator:
http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
Use the link above and enter your address to locate the specific rep/senator of your district
4.
Department of Consumers Affairs (CA BOP is under this Department):
http://www.dca.ca.gov/about_dca/leadership.shtml#director
5. Business, Consumers Services and Housing Agency: http://www.bcsh.ca.gov/
6. CA Board of Pharmacy:
It would be even better if we could locate more specific contact info of these officials (e.g. direct work email). Otherwise, they aren't likely to read our letters.
It would also help if we could get an investigative journalist of a news organization to write and publish a report...
Some key points for the letter:
1) lost productivity
2) loss of tax revenue for the state/federal governments
3) delayed healthcare/pharmacy services to consumers/patients, especially to those in areas where demand for pharmacists is high.
4) lost job opportunities
5) student loans repayment/interest accruement/applicants' finances
6) stress applicants have to endure
7) government accountability/efficiency/waste
Let's work together to get some reforms done. We can't accept the status quo simply because that's how it's always been.
So I've just looked up the names and addresses of at least some of the officials we should contact regarding the CA BOP.
1. Governor Brown: https://govnews.gov.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
Mailing address:
Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160
Use the link above for email.
Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160
Use the link above for email.
http://www.ltg.ca.gov/m_contact.asp
Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom
State Capitol, Suite 1114
Sacramento, CA 95814
State Capitol, Suite 1114
Sacramento, CA 95814
3. Your State Representative & Senator:
http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
Use the link above and enter your address to locate the specific rep/senator of your district
4.
Department of Consumers Affairs (CA BOP is under this Department):
http://www.dca.ca.gov/about_dca/leadership.shtml#director
Awet Kidane, Director
Department of Consumer Affairs
Consumer Information Division
1625 North Market Blvd., Suite N 112
Sacramento, CA 95834
Department of Consumer Affairs
Consumer Information Division
1625 North Market Blvd., Suite N 112
Sacramento, CA 95834
5. Business, Consumers Services and Housing Agency: http://www.bcsh.ca.gov/
“The mission of BCSH is to oversee Departments, Boards and Commissions whose job is to: License and regulate professionals and businesses in California, so as to protect consumers”
Alexis Podesta, Acting Secretary
Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency
915 Capitol Mall, Suite 350-A
Sacramento, CA 95814
[email protected]
Business, Consumer Services and Housing Agency
915 Capitol Mall, Suite 350-A
Sacramento, CA 95814
[email protected]
1625 North Market Blvd, Suite N219
Sacramento, CA 95834
Board Members:
http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/about/board_members.shtml
Executive Officer: Virginia Herold
http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/about/executive_staff.shtml
Sacramento, CA 95834
Board Members:
http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/about/board_members.shtml
Executive Officer: Virginia Herold
http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/about/executive_staff.shtml
It would be even better if we could locate more specific contact info of these officials (e.g. direct work email). Otherwise, they aren't likely to read our letters.
It would also help if we could get an investigative journalist of a news organization to write and publish a report...
Some key points for the letter:
1) lost productivity
2) loss of tax revenue for the state/federal governments
3) delayed healthcare/pharmacy services to consumers/patients, especially to those in areas where demand for pharmacists is high.
4) lost job opportunities
5) student loans repayment/interest accruement/applicants' finances
6) stress applicants have to endure
7) government accountability/efficiency/waste
Let's work together to get some reforms done. We can't accept the status quo simply because that's how it's always been.
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A petition letter is a great idea. Any politically motivated writer-pharmacists? please help with a letter. One suggestion on here was going to a news paper/channel, that seems like a good idea as well. The Sacramento Bee has a investigative unit, more letters they get regarding this, chances they might look into it. In addition CBS sacramento or NBC Bay area investigative unit are options. They have to be more transparent with this process. No other state does this to its students.
I called the Ca BOP today to express frustration and outrage! She confirmed they are NOT in Qa, there was unexpected issues because this was a new test..and she said " I THINK some letters have been mailed out."
So...I guess the waiting continues... She was not able to identify what batch but I'm hoping at least everyone from last week of July through first few weeks of August.
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So...I guess the waiting continues... She was not able to identify what batch but I'm hoping at least everyone from last week of July through first few weeks of August.
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I think one of the biggest issues here is that CA-BOP is batching these results when they should be sending them out continuously in the order of when the exams were taken.
its been more than 45 days for me now. this is ridiculous
Alright guys call the board just now...was confirmed test results through the 31st of August have been released. They are going to the post office tonight and we can expect them by early next week. If no letter by Friday next week, call the licensing office. Good luck to everyone!
lol I won't believe it until I see it. Seems everyone is getting different responses.
Let's hope we do hear from people who get Saturday mail and are local.
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I am local-ish and get Saturday mail but even my NAPLEX that was dated 8/12 (Friday) didn't come until 8/15 (Monday). But I agree, I'll believe it when I see it. Also planning on buying copious amounts of alcohol to deal with the possibility of waiting 2 months to hear I failed.
This is honestly something that doesn't make sense to me. What is the purpose? Surely they have a mailing department and it's not difficult to mail out scores.
The other huge issue is the fact that they even do this via postage. The state I come from recently went completely electronic for their licenses and stuff. They no longer mail you a license or a reminder it's time to renew your license. They said this will save them over $3 million over 5 years in postage and paper. This state already reports NAPLEX and MPJE scores online so this doesn't even include that. Imagine how much money the board could save if they implemented this, not to mention how much less manpower would be dedicated to answering phone calls on this matter. There is seriously no reason that in the year 2016 this couldn't all be electronic. If they could even cut the time down to 1/2 of what it is it would still be hugely beneficial. I won't even start on how unfair it is that people who took the CPJE August 31st are in this batch. If nothing changes and there is this imposed wait time, EVERYONE should have to wait the same amount of time.
i took it august 31st heh.
i still would very much like to send a few letters to the officials mentioned in my previous post. It's more than just us, the applicants... it's government waste/efficiency. We are not only paying application fees, we're also paying taxes. We expect a government bureaucracy to be fair and efficient in carrying out its mission(s).
And you must realize how unfair this is I hope. Tbh if I don't pass I'm going to be really upset because I scheduled my exam early to avoid going into QA. I could have had an extra month to study and been in a better position than where I am now.
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To add to that this is a personal situation but could easily apply to others: I had to be on public aid for 4 mo because I wasn't working enough to be over the income threshold. The state of California literally had to use taxpayer money to support me because they couldn't process my stupid score in time so that I could get licensed. If that's not the biggest waste of resources I don't know what is.
Friend just received results today! They took it at the end of August!
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!
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GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!
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Can they comment on how it looks? Like the green thing, can you see it from thE outside?
Hi all, just got my results! If you pass, there will be a green cover letter that you can see from the envelope window that has your address. My letter is dated 9/13, but was mailed out 9/16. I live ~15 min from the BOP. I took CPJE 8/1.
Just want to say thank you to everyone for all the updates over the last 1.5 months! Good luck!
