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MountainPharmD said:
So says the wise old student who has never worked a shift as a pharmacist. Pull a couple 14 hour days a week with no help and 400 prescriptions and see how you like staying extra. Your enthusiasm and willing to do whatever because you are making 120k a year will be gone before the ink on your new license is dry.
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A ****ing MEN to that
 
nnguyenc said:
i didn't think it was physically possible to fill 440 with one tech
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I had 1 tech until 1pm then I finally got some decent coverage towards the evening and we had to play major catch up. It was hard as hell to do.
 
MountainPharmD said:
So says the wise old student who has never worked a shift as a pharmacist. Pull a couple 14 hour days a week with no help and 400 prescriptions and see how you like staying extra. Your enthusiasm and willing to do whatever because you are making 120k a year will be gone before the ink on your new license is dry.
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amen! 120k was not worth it to me...never will be...550-600 daily, 188 rph hours in which 92 hours was for the overnight rphs. That left 96 hours for 2 pharmacists that were 44 hours base and left 8 hrs of overlap. Didnt matter how i did the schedule, we were always short help! I left that salary and am not looking back...ever...
 
At least I don't feel bad that I'm running a lot of times with no help. Luckily though, my store only does ~150/day. With that, that usually means I'm running by myself a lot. And with my main tech being "sick/ issues with the front store" we have assistant managers filling. I find that a lot of times, I'm actually arriving at my store 1/2 hour earlier just to get things running smoother. Getting the day to run by smoother is more than worth it than that extra pay imo.

But like I told all my friends currently in retail, retail isn't bad if it meets 3 criteria.

First: if you have normal hours, not inhuman, slave labor hours

Second: if you have tech help, no, an assistant manager helping doesn't count

Third: you get a damn lunch break, like a real break, not jamming that sandwich in at any random downtime you get

If those criteria are met, pharmacy is amazing. It really is, i love my patients that come to my store.

I know, i know. Bitc*hing etc etc. Gotta let the newbie pharmacist vent a little. Time does go by fast though, a month went by fast!

Off topic, but how do you find out what your hourly rate is from your salary offer?
 
I work 14's, have plenty of help, don't take a lunch (but still eat 2 meals most days), and we do about 200/day. I feel very little stress at work. Every store I've worked at in our district is this way, and it's more than manageable. I'd take this over WAG any day. I got a lunch break there, but I barely wound down before it was back for more torture. We even had tons of automation and I'd take my current job for 1/2 the pay. I don't know where the rest of you CVS people work, but maybe it's not CVS that's the problem...it's your district?
 
stevephhs016 said:
Off topic, but how do you find out what your hourly rate is from your salary offer?
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Divide your offer by 52 and then divide that by the average or base number of hours worked per week.

For example 100,000.00 per year at 40 hours per week:

100,000.00/52 = 1,923.08
1,923,08/40 = $48.08/hour
 
Vitamin K said:
I work 14's, have plenty of help, don't take a lunch (but still eat 2 meals most days), and we do about 200/day. I feel very little stress at work. Every store I've worked at in our district is this way, and it's more than manageable. I'd take this over WAG any day. I got a lunch break there, but I barely wound down before it was back for more torture. We even had tons of automation and I'd take my current job for 1/2 the pay. I don't know where the rest of you CVS people work, but maybe it's not CVS that's the problem...it's your district?
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My home CVS store does about 2-3 hundred on average for weekdays and I find it to be completely fair. I can honestly say I feel a very high level of job satisfaction and low stress. However, in my district we are not the norm. In a district of 14, my store and one other does this volume. The others all average well over 2k a week.
 
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Vitamin K said:
I work 14's, have plenty of help, don't take a lunch (but still eat 2 meals most days), and we do about 200/day. I feel very little stress at work. Every store I've worked at in our district is this way, and it's more than manageable. I'd take this over WAG any day. I got a lunch break there, but I barely wound down before it was back for more torture. We even had tons of automation and I'd take my current job for 1/2 the pay. I don't know where the rest of you CVS people work, but maybe it's not CVS that's the problem...it's your district?
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Perhaps. Whenever I call some bumpkin town CVS to take a transfer the voice on the other side always seems relaxed and cheerful.

For example, today I called up some store in Texas. After saying everything I needed to say in 10 seconds, the person on the other end was like, "damn, you seem really rushed". Today, I had to work with a pharmacist that graduated this past May and today was his 3rd day of work 😱
 
Old Timer said:
Divide your offer by 52 and then divide that by the average or base number of hours worked per week.

For example 100,000.00 per year at 40 hours per week:

100,000.00/52 = 1,923.08
1,923,08/40 = $48.08/hour
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Simplify the math to one calculation. Yearly salary divided by 2080 hours.

100,000/2080 = 48.0769 Round up and you get $48.08/hr.
 
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"Do you really think even if your did work a whole 40 hours a year extra because of staying late or getting there early that you are being under compensated when your making 120,000/yr. "

Bad way of thinking. Spineless mentality. Helping people out is one thing but being abused is another. You will never get to the top like this.
 
Sparda29 said:
Perhaps. Whenever I call some bumpkin town CVS to take a transfer the voice on the other side always seems relaxed and cheerful.

For example, today I called up some store in Texas. After saying everything I needed to say in 10 seconds, the person on the other end was like, "damn, you seem really rushed". Today, I had to work with a pharmacist that graduated this past May and today was his 3rd day of work 😱
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Definitely true, because I've worked in those "bumpkin towns", but right now I'm working in a city of 4 million people and our district has great management. We do things the way that the company asks us to (PCI, workflow, etc) and everything runs smoothly at most of our stores. I still feel like I have a lot of freedom to help customers, and I know my pharm supervisor has my back if I need to make hard decisions to keep a customer happy.
 
I think it is the district too. I average 300-350 scripts in most of the CVS stores that I work at. I get plenty of help and usually only stay 5 to 10 minutes later if the store has a drive thru. I dont feel it and in my opinion, it is hard to notice when you already pulled 14 hours. That and I get the satisfaction that the guy tomorrow wont get any surprises.

The money is good too... I just paid off another 7.5k from my student loans. Trying to get at it while the interest rates are low...
 
MountainPharmD said:
Simplify the math to one calculation. Yearly salary divided by 2080 hours.

100,000/2080 = 48.0769 Round up and you get $48.08/hr.
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Simplify it more. Take your salary and divide by 2. That's approximately your hourly wage.

Eg $100k/2 = $50/hr

Or for me

-$70k/2 = -$35/hr
 
I filled out my CVS intern survey from this summer honestly, and was basically asked to leave the company last month. oops

Apparently they disagreed that all the pharmacies in my area are overworked and understaffed. that and the whole "I'm not going to work for you after graduation" thing. Oh well, F CVS
 
killingbill said:
you are whats going wrong with the country. in the old days you GOT PAID for WHAT YOU WORKED. when they make budgets and slash your hours, believe it or not I want to get paid for what I work. Give them 10 minutes now, soon it will be an hour. Are you nuts?
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You are a pushover.
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So says the wise old student who has never worked a shift as a pharmacist. Pull a couple 14 hour days a week with no help and 400 prescriptions and see how you like staying extra. Your enthusiasm and willing to do whatever because you are making 120k a year will be gone before the ink on your new license is dry.
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Getting fired for not working for free?
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WTF? You guys sound like union workers, whining about every extra minute you work. Now that attitude is what's wrong with the country, and turns us into a country where everyone's just a factory worker punching in and out. In the real world, if there's a job still left to do, then people put in some reasonable extra time to finish it. Yes, even in ibanking.
 
womp said:
WTF? You guys sound like union workers, whining about every extra minute you work. Now that attitude is what's wrong with the country, and turns us into a country where everyone's just a factory worker punching in and out. In the real world, if there's a job still left to do, then people put in some reasonable extra time to finish it. Yes, even in ibanking.
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Scab. :meanie:
 
womp said:
WTF? You guys sound like union workers, whining about every extra minute you work. Now that attitude is what's wrong with the country, and turns us into a country where everyone's just a factory worker punching in and out. In the real world, if there's a job still left to do, then people put in some reasonable extra time to finish it. Yes, even in ibanking.
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Yeah...right.....Ummmm I am gonna need you to come in and work on Saturday....

Whatever jackass...
 
ibanking is a bad example. those people work like 80 hours a week, its like insane
 
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Another thing about CVS that I don't like. The pharmacy supervisor told that pharmacists that when they make the pharmacist schedule, they can't have consecutive weekdays off.

This is the schedule before:

Pharmacist A: Monday, Tuesday, 1/2 Wednesday
Pharmacist B: 1/2 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

And then they would alternate weekends. He doesn't want that anymore, he's telling them they gotta do this.

Pharmacist A: Tuesday, Thursday, 1/2 Friday
Pharmacist B: Monday, Wednesday, 1/2 Friday

And alternate weekends.

My problem with this scheduling is that you can't do much with your time off. If I had to work Monday, Tuesday, 1/2 Wednesday and it wasn't my weekend that week, I would just go traveling with 4 1/2 days I have off.
 
Sparda29 said:
Another thing about CVS that I don't like. The pharmacy supervisor told that pharmacists that when they make the pharmacist schedule, they can't have consecutive weekdays off.

This is the schedule before:

Pharmacist A: Monday, Tuesday, 1/2 Wednesday
Pharmacist B: 1/2 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

And then they would alternate weekends. He doesn't want that anymore, he's telling them they gotta do this.

Pharmacist A: Tuesday, Thursday, 1/2 Friday
Pharmacist B: Monday, Wednesday, 1/2 Friday

And alternate weekends.

My problem with this scheduling is that you can't do much with your time off. If I had to work Monday, Tuesday, 1/2 Wednesday and it wasn't my weekend that week, I would just go traveling with 4 1/2 days I have off.
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for the 100th time, i am so glad i got the hell out of this company...a supervisor telling rphs when they have to work...:laugh:
 
jachen84 said:
ibanking is a bad example. those people work like 80 hours a week, its like insane
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Heh, they do give us $20 dinner vouchers if we stay past 8pm.
Maybe that's what CVS needs to do. :d
 
This is what happens when you have "professionals" who can't show up to work on time or close their gates early. Blame your fellow CVS pharmacists not the company. Although they should have dealt with it on a personal basis.
 
Vitamin K said:
I work 14's, have plenty of help, don't take a lunch (but still eat 2 meals most days), and we do about 200/day. I feel very little stress at work.
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200 over a 14 hours period is a bit slow for me. I have to keep busy or I stare at the clock.
 
Doctor M said:
for the 100th time, i am so glad i got the hell out of this company...a supervisor telling rphs when they have to work...:laugh:
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Hmmm, so as I recall, you're starting an independent pharmacy right? How is it going so far? Where did you get the capital to start up? Did you take a business loan? What is your niche or specialty? How many employees are working for you? Good luck!
 
ffpickle said:
Hmmm, so as I recall, you're starting an independent pharmacy right? How is it going so far? Where did you get the capital to start up? Did you take a business loan? What is your niche or specialty? How many employees are working for you? Good luck!
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so far so good. The capital came from our own pockets and money from family. No business loan was taken out...but if your gonna start an independent you will need at a minimum 150k to start. anything less and you probably wont make it.

Our niche is compounding, standard stuff and we're getting into vet compounding. We are only 2 months into it, so we are still "young"! \

As for employees, we have a delivery driver, a tech mon-thurs, and 1 part time tech for weekends. Overstaffed but we will need them in the near future and they are really good techs! But overall, we are doing fine. The business pays for itself. Now we have to work on this AWP rollback...BS!
 
Doctor M said:
so far so good. The capital came from our own pockets and money from family. No business loan was taken out...but if your gonna start an independent you will need at a minimum 150k to start. anything less and you probably wont make it.

Our niche is compounding, standard stuff and we're getting into vet compounding. We are only 2 months into it, so we are still "young"! \

As for employees, we have a delivery driver, a tech mon-thurs, and 1 part time tech for weekends. Overstaffed but we will need them in the near future and they are really good techs! But overall, we are doing fine. The business pays for itself. Now we have to work on this AWP rollback...BS!
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That's amazing, good on you. I'm definitely rooting for you, stranger! 150k is actually less than I thought you would need to start a pharmacy. I guess it depends on how big you are, where you are, etc. Just the legal expenses must be astronomical. Someone on the forum here told me that to start a pharmacy, you need 2-3mill...but she is just a first year pharm student with a tendency to just make things up. Compounding sounds like a good niche, good luck to you. Thanks for the info!
 
ffpickle said:
That's amazing, good on you. I'm definitely rooting for you, stranger! 150k is actually less than I thought you would need to start a pharmacy. I guess it depends on how big you are, where you are, etc. Just the legal expenses must be astronomical. Someone on the forum here told me that to start a pharmacy, you need 2-3mill...but she is just a first year pharm student with a tendency to just make things up. Compounding sounds like a good niche, good luck to you. Thanks for the info!
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2-3 million is a bit fat fetched. 2-3 million and i would retire! lol! 150k would cover your initial drug order, and money to cover your business bills for at least 6 months. Thanks for the good wishes!

Dr. M
 
killingbill said:
Work for CVS. Got a memo that pharmacists must open 5 minutes earlier and stay 5 minutes later. Any1 else see this? We DO NOT get compensated for this. Can CVS get away with this? 10 minutes/ day adds up!
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You would make a terrible independent pharmacy owner. It sounds mean but it's true. I cannot believe a pharmacist is complaining about 5 minutes of time opening and closing a store.

My colleagues are gonna love reading this.
 
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AdmissionsMan said:
You would make a terrible independent pharmacy owner. It sounds mean but it's true. I cannot believe a pharmacist is complaining about 5 minutes of time opening and closing a store.

My colleagues are gonna love reading this.
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Have you read the entire thread? That 5 minutes extra of closing time can easily turn into 30-45 minutes if more people start wandering in.
 
That is why he's an "admissionsMan". He has never worked outside of academia. Go try to impress those pre-pharms.
 
Funny stuff!!! A school administrator commenting on people who actually work in the real world. Go back to your fairy tale ivory tower world. Leave the comments on the real world to those of us who are actually in it.
 
MountainPharmD said:
Funny stuff!!! A school administrator commenting on people who actually work in the real world. Go back to your fairy tale ivory tower world. Leave the comments on the real world to those of us who are actually in it.
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I worked in pharmacy for 9 years thank you very much. I went back to school to get my law degree and now I do what I do now.

My mother owned an independent pharmacy so I know what I'm talking about. I stand by my statement that you shouldn't go into independent pharmacy.
 
AdmissionsMan said:
I worked in pharmacy for 9 years thank you very much. I went back to school to get my law degree and now I do what I do now.

My mother owned an independent pharmacy so I know what I'm talking about. I stand by my statement that you shouldn't go into independent pharmacy.
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So you're a rich kid...a lawyer...and in academia?

Jesus Christ. You might be the biggest douchebag on the planet.
 
AdmissionsMan said:
I worked in pharmacy for 9 years thank you very much. I went back to school to get my law degree and now I do what I do now.

My mother owned an independent pharmacy so I know what I'm talking about. I stand by my statement that you shouldn't go into independent pharmacy.
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There's a big difference between owning your own pharmacy and coming in early to increase YOUR profits vs working for a faceless company that tries to take advantage of thousands of pharmacists.
 
Carboxide said:
There's a big difference between owning your own pharmacy and coming in early to increase YOUR profits vs working for a faceless company that tries to take advantage of thousands of pharmacists.
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exactly. working for 10 extra mins for yourself is different than working 10 extra mins for a CEO.

CEO's used to make 40x more than the average worker (i.e. $40 for every $1 the worker makes). Now they make 550x the average worker...

at first i thought 10mins/day is nothing...i can't believe a professional would complain about this....then someone rightly pointed out that this is equivalent to 1 full week of free work, per year. when you look at it from this perspective, it's unacceptable...
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
So you're a rich kid...a lawyer...and in academia?

Jesus Christ. You might be the biggest douchebag on the planet.
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Where do you get the assumption that I'm a rich kid? I haven't been a kid in a long time and son, I earn my money the same way you do.

Maybe I am a "douchebag" but I sure as hell earned my way to where I am.
 
AdmissionsMan said:
Where do you get the assumption that I'm a rich kid? I haven't been a kid in a long time and son, I earn my money the same way you do.

Maybe I am a "douchebag" but I sure as hell earned my way to where I am.
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so you earned your way to be an anonymous poster on an online forum?

congrats. you're special.
 
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AdmissionsMan said:
The pot is calling the kettle black 🙂
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that's fine, so long as the kettle continues to recognize that it's a douchebag...as you previously acknowledged.

also, the pot isn't talking about how great it is...
 
AdmissionsMan said:
Where do you get the assumption that I'm a rich kid? I haven't been a kid in a long time and son, I earn my money the same way you do.

Maybe I am a "douchebag" but I sure as hell earned my way to where I am.
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Parents owned a pharmacy. Likely, you were a rich kid. They tend to be annoying people. To me, anyway. Either way...you come off as an ass in the little time you've logged on here...
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Parents owned a pharmacy. Likely, you were a rich kid. They tend to be annoying people. To me, anyway. Either way...you come off as an ass in the little time you've logged on here...
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Again, more assumptions. My father worked for the post office and my mother worked at a laundry mat. I had to work my way through college by getting student loans and working for anybody who would hire me.

But it's obvious who the egomaniac is here 🙂
 
AdmissionsMan said:
Again, more assumptions. My father worked for the post office and my mother worked at a laundry mat. I had to work my way through college by getting student loans and working for anybody who would hire me.

But it's obvious who the egomaniac is here 🙂
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Like 5 posts ago you said yo mama owned a pharmacy. WTF?
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Like 5 posts ago you said yo mama owned a pharmacy. WTF?
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it was a laundry mat/pharmacy? instead of getting those damn 20 dollar giftcards with every transfer... his parents handed out a hand-full of laundry tokens. absolutely brilliant in my opinion.
 
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