DO Match List Thread 2020

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KCOM 2020
Anesthesiology
St. Louis University x2
McLaren
Baylor
Case Western
Indiana University
Vanderbilt
Grandview
University of Wisconson

Derm
Beaumont Hospital- Farmington Hill
University Hospitals - Case Western Reserve
OhioHealth-Riverside Methodist

Diagnostic Radiology
University of Missouri- KC
University of Minnesota x2
Baylor

Emergency Medicine
Wright Patterson Medical Center/Wright State University
University of South Florida
University of Kansas
University of Missouri
University of Illinois-Peoria
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Henry Ford - Macomb
University of Arizona
Oklahoma State University
St. Mary Mercy Hospital-MI
Detroit Receiving
Texas Tech University
Ascension Genesys
Mercy St. Vincent Med Center

Family Medicine
Columbia St. Mary's
Saint Joseph Health System
Idaho State University
Central IA Health System/ IA Lutheran
Clarkson Family Med x5
Mayo Clinic
University of Missouri x5
University of Nebraska Medical Center
Mercy Hospital St. Louis
West Suburban Medical Center
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
AnMed Health
Siouxland Medical Education Foundation
Center for Family Medicine, SD
CoxHealth x3
Texas A&M
St Luke's Des Peres
SLU
Northeast Regional Medical Center
SLU- Southwest Illinois
Genesis Quad Cities- IA
Research Medical Center
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center
Summa Health/NEOMED
SIU Carbondale
Abrazo Health Network- AZ
University of Wyoming
SIU Quincy
Rapid City Regional

General Surgery
Swedish Medical Center
Beaumont Health
Mountain Vista Medical Center

Internal Medicine
Madigan Army Medical Center
San Antonio Military Medical Center
St Lukes Hospital
Franciscan Olympia fields
SUNY Downstate
Unity Point Health System
Freeman Health System x2
University of Missouri
SLU x2
Western Michigan University
University of Kansas
Riverside Medical Center
University of North Dakota
Mercy Hospital St. Louis x2
Legacy Health Emanuel/Good Samaritan
St. Bernard Medical Center
University of Massachusetts- Baystate
University of Arkansas - Fayetteville
University of Arizona- COM Phoenix
South Pointe Hospital
University of Illinois-Peoria
Hennepin County Medical Center
Summa Health/Neomed
NRMC
Mercy Hospital Chicago
Hennepin County Medical Center
Freeman Health System
St. Vincent's Hospital
Aurora Health Care
St. Bernards Medical Center

Neurology
Baylor

OB/GYN
University of Missouri
UMMS-Baystate
University of Kansas-Wichita
Wright State University
Garden City Hospital

Orthopaedic Surgery
UPMC Pinnacle
OhioHealth - Doctor's Hospital


Pediatrics
University of Missouri
SLU x2
University of South Dakota
University of South Florida
University of Arizona
University of Arkansas
Tulane

Peds/PM&R
Thomas Jefferson/duPont Children's Hospital

PM&R
Carolinas Rehab
Sinai x2

Psychiatry
Tripler Army Medical Center
Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland Med Ctr
University of Missouri
John Peter Smith Hospital
 
KCOM 2020
Anesthesiology
St. Louis University x2
McLaren
Baylor
Case Western
Indiana University
Vanderbilt
Grandview
University of Wisconson

Derm
Beaumont Hospital- Farmington Hill
University Hospitals - Case Western Reserve
OhioHealth-Riverside Methodist

Diagnostic Radiology
University of Missouri- KC
University of Minnesota x2
Baylor

Emergency Medicine
Wright Patterson Medical Center/Wright State University
University of South Florida
University of Kansas
University of Missouri
University of Illinois-Peoria
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Henry Ford - Macomb
University of Arizona
Oklahoma State University
St. Mary Mercy Hospital-MI
Detroit Receiving
Texas Tech University
Ascension Genesys
Mercy St. Vincent Med Center

Family Medicine
Columbia St. Mary's
Saint Joseph Health System
Idaho State University
Central IA Health System/ IA Lutheran
Clarkson Family Med x5
Mayo Clinic
University of Missouri x5
University of Nebraska Medical Center
Mercy Hospital St. Louis
West Suburban Medical Center
Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
AnMed Health
Siouxland Medical Education Foundation
Center for Family Medicine, SD
CoxHealth x3
Texas A&M
St Luke's Des Peres
SLU
Northeast Regional Medical Center
SLU- Southwest Illinois
Genesis Quad Cities- IA
Research Medical Center
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center
Summa Health/NEOMED
SIU Carbondale
Abrazo Health Network- AZ
University of Wyoming
SIU Quincy
Rapid City Regional

General Surgery
Swedish Medical Center
Beaumont Health
Mountain Vista Medical Center

Internal Medicine
Madigan Army Medical Center
San Antonio Military Medical Center
St Lukes Hospital
Franciscan Olympia fields
SUNY Downstate
Unity Point Health System
Freeman Health System x2
University of Missouri
SLU x2
Western Michigan University
University of Kansas
Riverside Medical Center
University of North Dakota
Mercy Hospital St. Louis x2
Legacy Health Emanuel/Good Samaritan
St. Bernard Medical Center
University of Massachusetts- Baystate
University of Arkansas - Fayetteville
University of Arizona- COM Phoenix
South Pointe Hospital
University of Illinois-Peoria
Hennepin County Medical Center
Summa Health/Neomed
NRMC
Mercy Hospital Chicago
Hennepin County Medical Center
Freeman Health System
St. Vincent's Hospital
Aurora Health Care
St. Bernards Medical Center

Neurology
Baylor

OB/GYN
University of Missouri
UMMS-Baystate
University of Kansas-Wichita
Wright State University
Garden City Hospital

Orthopaedic Surgery
UPMC Pinnacle
OhioHealth - Doctor's Hospital


Pediatrics
University of Missouri
SLU x2
University of South Dakota
University of South Florida
University of Arizona
University of Arkansas
Tulane

Peds/PM&R
Thomas Jefferson/duPont Children's Hospital

PM&R
Carolinas Rehab
Sinai x2

Psychiatry
Tripler Army Medical Center
Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland Med Ctr
University of Missouri
John Peter Smith Hospital
Man that's a big portion of the class going primary care for KCOM. Although, they do have a decent amount of nice University matches.
 
Ortho match at University of Colorado is insane... I don’t think they’ve ever taken a DO...


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They took one last year!

This bro had heavy scores / pubs and paid to rotate there. He earned it. Colorado’s research track went unfilled this year
 
Class size increase by 2024 can be sustained because there is still a few K surplus of residency spots. Most of those grads will go to undesirable locations and push out IMG/FMGs.

BUT WE CAN ONLY TAKE QUALITY EXPANSION moving forward. AAMC requested a 30% increase in US med school enrollment in 2002. We (MD/DO) have increased enrollment by 52%.
Any further expansion if any at all must be controlled to ensure it is small, controlled, and quality. That can only happen through advocacy to LCME/COCA.

USMLE pass/fail is more of a variable. COMLEX might go pass/fail too. Hopefully USMLE step 2ck still being scored tempers that storm for now. Meanwhile pray that specialty societies/boards create specialty specific exams for med students. Or pray for any type of objective nationally standardized metric to emerge.

In the doomsday scenario where all objectivity is removed from medicine and all objective metrics/standards are obliterated in favor of nepotism/cronyism/elitism, DOs and mid/low tier MD students will have to be more strategic and smart about away rotations and regions. The DO profession survived and did well with the creation of RVU, single accreditation, and massive expansion the last decade. It will continue the same trajectory if enough people stick around, recognize the role med ed has in patient safety, and advocate
 
My matched program hasn't reached out to me yet. Should I reach out to them?
 
ATSU-SOMA partial list

Family Medicine

Honor Health Scottsdale- Az

University of California, Davis Medical Center x 2

University of Wisconsin, Madison - School of Medicine

Family Medicine Residency Idaho – Boise

Mike O'Callaghan Military Medical Center at Nellis Air Force Base

North Memorial- Minneapolis, MN

Family Medicine Residency Idaho – Nampa

University of Minnesota Medical Center "Smileys" – Minneapolis

UHS So Cal MEC - Temecula, CA

Mayo Clinic – Florida

UPMC St. Margaret - Pittsburgh, PA

FMR Idaho – Boise

North Country HealthCare - Flagstaff, AZ

Puyallup Tribal Health Authority- Tacoma, WA

West Suburban Medical Center - Chicago, IL

University of Hawaii FMRP - Honolulu, HI

Abrazo Health - Phoenix, AZ

HealthPoint/Wright Center - Auburn, WA

Valley Medical Center - Renton, WA

Arrowhead Regional Medical Center – CA

Summa Health - Akron, OH

University of Nevada Reno- NV

Providence Health - Milwaukie, OR

University of Hawaii


Internal Medicine


Ventura Community Memorial Hospital

University of Tennessee Nashville

Abrazo Health - Phoenix, AZ

George Washington University Hospital

Virginia Mason - Seattle, WA x 2

UIC Advocate Christ – IL x 2

Medical City Weatherford – TX

Skagit Regional Health - Mount Vernon, WA

University of California Irvine - Orange, CA

Desert Regional Medical Center - Palm Springs, CA

Zucker/Northwell Lenox Hill-NYC


Peds

University of New Mexico- Albuquerque NM x 2

Phoenix Children's Hospital – Phoenix, AZ

Tucson Hospital Medical Education Program - Tucson, AZ

St. Christopher Hospital - Philadelphia, PA

Maria Fareri Children's Hospital (Westchester Med)- NY

Naval Medical Center Portsmouth - Portsmouth, VA


General Surgery

Zucker/Northwell - Staten Island University Hospital

Oklahoma State University - Tulsa, OK

University of Illinois Chicago, Mt Sinai Hospital- Chicago, IL

Creighton University/Valleywise - Phoenix, AZ (preliminary)


Otolaryngology

Rutgers - New Jersey Medical School


Urology

University of Texas – UTHSCSA


Dermatology

St. Joseph Mercy Hospital, Ann Arbor, MI


Diagnostic Radiology

Rush University Medical Center - Chicago, IL


Emergency Medicine

University of Texas at Austin Dell medical school

UPMC Pinnacle Hospitals – PA

Rowan University – NJ

UT Houston McGovern Med - Houston, TX

Kaweah Delta - Visalia, CA

Integris Southwest - Oklahoma City, OK


Psychiatry


Drexel/Tower Health-Philadelphia, PA

Griffin Memorial Hospital – OK

University of Arizona, Tucson

University of Minnesota - Minneapolis, MN

Creighton University/MIHS - Phoenix, AZ

Kern-UCLA Medical - Bakersfield, CA

Creighton University/Valleywise - Phoenix, AZ

UCSF-Fresno, CA


OBGYN

St. Vincent – Indianapolis

Good Sam-NY

Richmond University Medical Center – NY

UCSF-Fresno, CA


Anesthesiology

OhioHealth- Columbus, OH

Allegheny General Hospital - Pittsburgh, PA

University of Connecticut SOM - Farmington, CT

UT Houston


PM&R

UC Irvine, CA

Washington University-St. Louis, MO
 
Ventura Community Memorial Hospital

University of Tennessee Nashville

Abrazo Health - Phoenix, AZ

George Washington University Hospital

Virginia Mason - Seattle, WA x 2

UIC Advocate Christ – IL x 2

Medical City Weatherford – TX

Skagit Regional Health - Mount Vernon, WA

University of California Irvine - Orange, CA

Desert Regional Medical Center - Palm Springs, CA

Zucker/Northwell Lenox Hill-NYC

Nice matches to Virginia Mason surprised to see 2 going there.

GWU and UC Irvine are great as well.

Skagit is weird. They have MMIs for the interview day.
 
Anyone have Touro Nevada’s list?

Some big ones I remember off the top of my head: ENT at Hawaii, Anes at Cleveland Clinic, Loma Linda, IU, Dermatology at Larkin, PMR at John Hopkins, Baylor, Case Western, IM at Scripps, UofA, Loma Linda, Mt Sinai Miami, DMC, Neurology at Dartmouth and Case Western, Peds at Dartmouth and Emory, Path at Brown and USC. Tons of university FM and IM too (Majority of the class was IM/FM then PMR/Anesth if I remember, everyone had great spots! I was blown away!)
 
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Here are a couple from NYITCOM-OW. Don't have the full list or all the details, just what I saw from social media.

Vascular Surgery at Mayo Clinic
Internal Medicine at Clevland Clinic, Internal Medicine at Stonybrook, Internal Medicine at University of Cincinnati
OBGYN at Hackensack University
ENT at Rutgers
Derm @hmj Palisades NJ
Derm @St. John's Episcopal
Interventional Radiology @U Iowa
several ortho matches, one at ascension macomb oakland, another at northwell, others that i'm not sure of location
one neurosurgery, not sure where.
 
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A few highlights from CCOM
Rads @ UA-T, Rush
EM @ Duke, MCW, RUSH
FM @ U Colorado, Dell
IM @ UA-P, U Conn, GW, SLU, MCW, UW
Neuro @ MSU
Ortho @ Kansas, Prisma/USC
Path @ U Chicago, Cedars-Sinai
Peds @ UA-T, Baylor, MCW
PM&R @ Hopkins, Dell, Rutgers, Rush
Psych @ Mayo, SLU, Cleveland Clinic, Cincinnati, MCW, OHSU
Urology @ Sparrow
 
Quick question, I see that there are around 40k active applicants for 37k positions offered reported. Were IMGs and FMGs included in those 40k applicants?
 
Quick question, I see that there are around 40k active applicants for 37k positions offered reported. Were IMGs and FMGs included in those 40k applicants?
yes
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A few highlights from CCOM
Rads @ UA-T, Rush
EM @ Duke, MCW, RUSH
FM @ U Colorado, Dell
IM @ UA-P, U Conn, GW, SLU, MCW, UW
Neuro @ MSU
Ortho @ Kansas, Prisma/USC
Path @ U Chicago, Cedars-Sinai
Peds @ UA-T, Baylor, MCW
PM&R @ Hopkins, Dell, Rutgers, Rush
Psych @ Mayo, SLU, Cleveland Clinic, Cincinnati, MCW, OHSU
Urology @ Sparrow
what kansas program was that ortho match?
 
So 3k went unmatched this year, that's a high number isn't it?
more than that. Only 61% of both FMG and IMGs matched (which is actually a higher percentage than previous years)
 
TouroCOM Middletown from what's been posted so far

Anesthesia
Albany
Albany
Cleveland Clinic
HCA- USF Morsani
Sinai West (SLR)
WVSOM
Umass- Worcester

Derm
HMH-Palisades (NJ)

EM
Albany
Albert Einstein (Philly)
Christiana Care
Good Sam
Inspira Health
Leigh Valley
Montefiore/Einstein
NYP-Queens
Texas Tech

FM
Crozer-Chester (PA)
Loma Linda
Morristown (NJ)
Northwell-Plainview
Providence Health (OR)

IM
Christiana Care
Cleveland Clinic
Cleveland Clinic
Georgetown
HCA USF-Morsani
Montefiore/Einstein
Norwalk Hospital
NYCOMEC-ORMC
RowanSOM
Sinai West (SLR)
Uconn
Yale (Primary care track)

Neuro
Georgetown
U of Rochester
RWJ
UF-Shands

OB/GYN
Newark Beth Israel

Peds
Geisinger
Good Sam
Hackensack
Uconn
UCSF-Oakland
UIC
UMMS-Baystate
UNM
Utah

PM&R
East Carolina

Psych
Geisinger
MUSC
NYCOMEC- ORMC
Palm Beach Consirtium
St. Luke's- Anderson
Umass

Urology
Main Line Health
Just checked the residents for the Yale Primary Care track IM and that person is in elite company. matched with students from Harvard, NYU, Duke, UMich,Dartmouth..
 
So 37k positions offered are not all of the available ones? Some other positions only become available during SOAP?

Here's an example of how this works (madeup numbers)
  1. 100k Applicants, 75k Positions
  2. Residencies interview applicants. Applicants and programs "rank" eachother in order of preference. Each side submits "Rank Order List" into the "Match Program"
  3. The "Match Program" finds the best pairing of Programs and Applicants, based on the Rank Order List each submitted.
  4. 60k (of the 100k) Applicants successfully MATCH into 60k Programs. These applicants are always referred to as having matched. This leaves 40k leftover applicants and 15k unfilled programs.
  5. 10k (of the 40k unmatched) Applicants successfully SOAP into 10k unfilled Programs. These applicants are sometimes referred to as having matched (when, in reality, they did not technically "match" via the "match program").
  6. This leaves 30k unmatched applicants and 10k unfilled programs.
 
Here's an example of how this works (madeup numbers)
  1. 100k applicants, 75k positions
  2. Residencies interview applicants. Applicants and programs "rank" eachother in order of preference. Each side submits "Rank Order List."
  3. MATCH PROGRAM finds the best pairing based on the Rank Order List from both Programs and Applicants.
  4. 60k (of the 100k) Applicants successfully MATCH into 60k Programs. This leaves 40k leftover applicants and 15k unfilled programs. These applicants are always referred to as having matched.
  5. 15k (of the 40k unmatched) Applicants successfully SOAP into the 15k unfilled Programs. These applicants are sometimes referred to as having matched (when, in reality, they did not technically "match" via the "match program"). This leaves 25k unmatched applicants.
So the quick math would be 100 - 75 = 25k unmatched, just like in the real data 40 - 37 = 3k unmatched, after Match and SOAP.
 
more than that. Only 61% of both FMG and IMGs matched (which is actually a higher percentage than previous years)
One of the reasons why IMGs and FMGs keep getting higher and higher match rate is because their numbers of applicants also keep decreasing. 5K out of 10K is 50%, but 5K out of 8K is 62%.

Edit: It will probably start decreasing once the bottleneck occurs with the increasing number of US applicants.
 
So the quick math would be 100 - 75 = 25k unmatched, just like in the real data 40 - 37 = 3k unmatched, after Match and SOAP.

I edited the numbers a bit in my initial response btw.

Those 3k are post-SOAP and post-Match.
 
One of the reasons why IMGs and FMGs keep getting higher and higher match rate is because their numbers of applicants also keep decreasing. 5K out of 10K is 50%, but 5K out of 8K is 62%.

Edit: It will probably start decreasing once the bottleneck occurs with the increasing number of US applicants.

They also got a bit of a bump from former unfilled AOA programs.
 
One of the reasons why IMGs and FMGs keep getting higher and higher match rate is because their numbers of applicants also keep decreasing. 5K out of 10K is 50%, but 5K out of 8K is 62%.

Edit: It will probably start decreasing once the bottleneck occurs with the increasing number of US applicants.

Only about 700-800 less US-IMGs and FMGs from 2016, but this a great point! I didn't even notice that their application volume had been declining.
 
One of the reasons why IMGs and FMGs keep getting higher and higher match rate is because their numbers of applicants also keep decreasing. 5K out of 10K is 50%, but 5K out of 8K is 62%.

Edit: It will probably start decreasing once the bottleneck occurs with the increasing number of US applicants.
Also, the old AOA programs that converted to ACGME this year were now available to IMGs and FMGs. Hundreds of these positions were always left unfilled for whatever reason. I highly believe that these programs took IMGs and FMGs, thus giving them a spot that wasn't there a year ago.

Edit: you beat me to it.
 
One of the reasons why IMGs and FMGs keep getting higher and higher match rate is because their numbers of applicants also keep decreasing. 5K out of 10K is 50%, but 5K out of 8K is 62%.

Edit: It will probably start decreasing once the bottleneck occurs with the increasing number of US applicants.
Yikes, 38% unmatched after 40% attrition rate, who in the right mind would go Carribean =.="
 
Yikes, 38% unmatched after 40% attrition rate, who in the right mind would go Carribean =.="

This person spent 20K to apply to 530 FM programs, only to get 17 interview invites.
 

This person spent 20K to apply to 530 FM programs, only to get 17 interview invites.
What's jarring is that their takeaway message seems to be "Yea, primary care is totally doable from the Caribbean" rather than "Holy **** I just spent 20k on applications to 530 FM programs and only got 17 interviews" or "Yikes only ~130 people from my original class of 270 matched, half of which had to repeat a class 😳)
 
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