DO Match List Thread 2020

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What's jarring is that their takeaway message seems to be "Yea, primary care is totally doable from the Caribbean" rather than "Holy **** I just spent 20k on applications to 530 FM programs and only got 17 interviews" or "Yikes only ~130 people from my original class of 270 matched, half of which had to repeat a class :oops:)

I know right. I thought my couple thousand for apps, travel, food etc was too much. 20k isn’t even fathomable.

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TOURO CA

ANESTHESIOLOGY
University of Washington
University of Arizona
Kaweah Delta
UT Houston
Kaweah Delta
Medical College Wisconsin

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
OHSU
St. Barnabas Hospital
Kaweah-Delta Medical Center
Northwell Staten Island University
UHOC
New York Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist
Kaweah Delta
SUNY Upstate
Valley Health

FAMILY MEDICINE
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
John Muir
Kaiser Fontana
PIH Downey
Sunrise Health
Dignity Health - Northridge
Sunrise Health
Dignity Health - Northridge
Natividad Medical Center
Kaiser - Los Angeles
Ventura County Medical Center
RUHS/UC Riverside
Valley Consortium
Kaiser Fontana
Dignity Health - Merced
Dignity Health - Northridge
Peak Vista
Darnall Army Medical Center
Adventist Health Glendale
Kaiser Santa Rosa
Kaiser Santa Rosa
Natividad Medical Center
Valley Consortium

GENERAL SURGERY
Hackensack - Palisades
Riverside Community Hospital

INTERNAL MEDICINE
UC Irvine
UC Riverside
UCSF Fresno
Legacy
UC Riverside
Henry Ford/Michigan State
Scripps Mercy
Riverside Community Hospital
Saint Marys Medical Center
Adventist Health White Memorial
Cook County Hospital
Community Memorial Health
Adventist Health White Memorial
Kern Medical
UT Health San Antonio
Highland
Highland
St. Louis University
Highland
St. Mary's Medical Center
UNLV
Scripps Mercy
Lenox Hill
U of A Phoenix
University of Hawaii
Highland
Community Memorial Health
Spectrum Health/Michigan State University
Loma Linda
UNLV
University of Connecticut

NEUROLOGY
Maine Medical Center
Loma Linda University
UCLA Harbor
Albany Medical Center

NEUROSURGERY
Riverside University Health System

OBGYN
Richmond University Medical Center
HCA Houston Healthcare/U Houston
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center

OPTHALMOLOGY
St. John's Episcopal

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Riverside University Health System

PEDIATRICS
OHSU
LAC+USC
Kaiser Oakland
Maimonides Medical Center
Valley Children's Hospital
LAC+USC
Tucson Hospitals Medical Education Program
Valley Children's Hospital
U of Louisville/Norton Children's
Children's Hospital Oakland
Valley Children's Hospital

PM&R
Columbia-Cornell New York Presbyterian
Medical College of Wisconsin

PSYCHIATRY
UCSF Fresno
University of Reno
Loma Linda University
Loma Linda University
UCSF Fresno
MedStar/Georgetown Univ Hosp
Healthone/sky ridge hosp

RADIOLOGY
Sunrise Health
Oklahoma State University

TRANSITIONAL
St. Joseph's
Hemet Valley Medical
Blake Medical Center
Kaweah Delta

PRELIM-SURGERY
St. Joseph's Hospital
UCSF East Bay/Highland

PRELIM-MEDICINE
Westchester Medical Center
 
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I know right. I thought my couple thousand for apps, travel, food etc was too much. 20k isn’t even fathomable.
It's also not correct. 520 apps on 2019-2020 eras fees is less than $13k. Point holds though. Lots of money
 
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It's also not correct. 520 apps on 2019-2020 eras fees is less than $13k. Point holds though. Lots of money
I assume it'd be $20k after you added in flights/hotel.
 
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Is it Yale New Haven or Yale Waterbury?
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So far UNECOM, havent heard much but heard they matched really well.

Mayo (main campus) - FM
Mayo Jacksonville - FM
Mclaren - Ortho
Harvard - psych
UCONN - IM
Creighton/Maricopa - EM
Tufts - Anesthesia, Peds
St.Elizabeth(Boston) - anesthesia
Brown - FM, peds, ortho
Kent hosp RI - IM
Baystate - IM/OBGYN
UMass - IM, OBGYN
Mercy St.vincent Ohio - OBGYN
Lahey clinic - IM
UMinnesota - FM
Health One, Denver - neurology
Christiana - EM
Case Western - PMR
Maine med - peds
 
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So far UNECOM, havent heard much but heard they matched really well.

Mayo (main campus) - FM
Mayo Jacksonville - FM
Mclaren - Ortho
Harvard - psych
UCONN - IM
Creighton/Maricopa - EM
Tufts - Anesthesia, Peds
St.Elizabeth(Boston) - anesthesia
Brown - FM, peds, ortho
Kent hosp RI - IM
Baystate - IM/OBGYN
UMass - IM, OBGYN
Mercy St.vincent Ohio - OBGYN
Lahey clinic - IM
UMinnesota - FM
Health One, Denver - neurology
Christiana - EM
Case Western - PMR
Maine med - peds
Brown ortho LoL?
 
Is it Yale New Haven or Yale Waterbury?

 
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This years match list thread feels very different from previous years. By now we'd have a lot of naysayers and downers but its nothing but match lists and I'm loving it.

Would love to see an updated OUHCOM list whenever possible.
 
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Most likely South Shore, which wouldn’t be all that incredible.

I second this.

The competition in psych this year was absolutely brutal - people on the psych forums are reporting a 65% nationwide match rate. Tons of psych hopefuls unmatched with even USMDs with good scores falling to their 10+ rank list position. I sincerely doubt BID, MGH, or B+W were interviewing DOs this year.
 
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I second this.

The competition in psych this year was absolutely brutal - people on the psych forums are reporting a 65% nationwide match rate. Tons of psych hopefuls unmatched with even USMDs with good scores falling to their 10+ rank list position. I sincerely doubt BID, MGH, or B+W were interviewing DOs this year.

Was it brutal for top tier or all residencies? I saw 6-7 of my class match in psychiatry.
 
I second this.

The competition in psych this year was absolutely brutal - people on the psych forums are reporting a 65% nationwide match rate. Tons of psych hopefuls unmatched with even USMDs with good scores falling to their 10+ rank list position. I sincerely doubt BID, MGH, or B+W were interviewing DOs this year.

This is 100% false. USMD match rate was 86.6% for psych, and 77% for DO's. I'm not sure where people are getting 65% match rate, but it must be including IMGs and FMGs, which have match rates that are down across the board. For some context, USMD match rate for IM is 85%, while for DOs it was 74%.

After combing through the data, the 65% number that is being thrown around is the total number of psychiatry PGY-1 spots that USMDs now occupy.

While Psych continues to be competitive, it has not increased in competitiveness relative to IM or even FM

Source: NMRP Main residency match data - Total # of applicants in psych / # matched. The numbers I provided could be skewed due to applicants applying to more than 1 specialty or other confounding factors
 
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It was relatively stable this year. Please see my previous post.

But those IMG numbers you’re omitting are pretty important in this case. They’ve historically filled *many* psych spots, this year (and last year), not so much - I strongly suspect they’ve been hit harder in psych than in IM/FM.

Yes, DOs are still matching psych. This is because we’ve pushed the IMGs out... but the MDs have recently given us a hard kick out of psych programs in desirable urban areas and university programs that used to take us.
 
This is 100% false. USMD match rate was 86.6% for psych, and 77% for DO's. I'm not sure where people are getting 65% match rate, but it must be including IMGs and FMGs, which have match rates that are down across the board. For some context, USMD match rate for IM is 85%, while for DOs it was 74%.

After combing through the data, the 65% number that is being thrown around is the total number of psychiatry PGY-1 spots that USMDs now occupy.

While Psych continues to be competitive, it has not increased in competitiveness relative to IM or even FM

Source: NMRP Main residency match data - Total # of applicants in psych / # matched. The numbers I provided could be skewed due to applicants applying to more than 1 specialty or other confounding factors

I think those US MD IM numbers will look way way different once you account for 1st choice speciality, which we will not be able to do until the NRMP Charting Outcomes are released. The last year that we have charting outcomes available for is 2018 when US MD's had an IM match rate of 97.5. A lot of people apply IM as a back up at least relative to other specialties. The same goes for FM.

On the other hand, the low psych match rate of 65% is including the IMG/FMGs. A ton of those applicants apply psych due to historic competitiveness and really inflate the numbers sometimes pushing psych to have the lowest overall match rate of all specialties.

While we will not know what the first preference match rate is for any specialities until the charting outcomes are released, it doe not seem like psych has gotten more competitive for USMD's and USDO's relative to the last couple of years. The 86.6% and 77% numbers will only go up when accounting for those who applied psych as a back up and ended up matching into something else. Both of those "match rates" are higher than for MD's and DO's relative to 2018. Psych had one of the lower match rates in 2018 for US MD's, but was also on the low end for average board scores. It is difficult to fully interpret what that means in terms of competitiveness. I am very curious to see how board scores impacted competitiveness in psych in this years charting outcomes and how many DO psych matches took the USMLE. Anecdotal reports don't mean much of anything.
 
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But those IMG numbers you’re omitting are pretty important in this case. They’ve historically filled *many* psych spots, this year (and last year), not so much - I strongly suspect they’ve been hit harder in psych than in IM/FM.

Yes, DOs are still matching psych. This is because we’ve pushed the IMGs out... but the MDs have recently given us a hard kick out of psych programs in desirable urban areas and university programs that used to take us.

If you compare the % of DO's and MD's that matched into the psych from 2018-2020, it has been stable in terms of %'s, even though there are more DOs and USMDs in the match. Furthermore, 65% of USMDs taking PGY1s has also been consistent. This is a positive or neutral trend, but definitely not a negative. Programs had to rank 4.3 people PER PGY1 position this year vs 3.8 last year. This is a positive trend and is probably a combination of more Psych programs (286 last year vs. 310 this year) and the squeezing out of IMGs and FMGs.

As far as the claim that MDs have pushed us out this year there is 0 data to back this claim. We have to wait and see match lists and overall data in the NRMP, which won't be out until this summer. No reasonble claim about how DOs fair in the psych match vs MDs can be made without more data.
 
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If you compare the % of DO's and MD's that matched into the psych from 2018-2020, it has been stable in terms of %'s, even though there are more DOs and USMDs in the match. Furthermore, 65% of USMDs taking PGY1s has also been consistent. This is a positive or neutral trend, but definitely not a negative. Programs had to rank 4.3 people PER PGY1 position this year vs 3.8 last year. This is a positive trend and is probably a combination of more Psych programs (286 last year vs. 310 this year) and the squeezing out of IMGs and FMGs.

As far as the claim that MDs have pushed us out this year there is 0 data to back this claim. We have to wait and see match lists and overall data in the NRMP, which won't be out until this summer. No reasonble claim about how DOs fair in the psych match vs MDs can be made without more data.

You’re right that the data isn’t there, I’m getting this from statements made by several PDs on the interview trail, who I (possibly incorrectly) suspect have more access to data than we do. Additionally, phrases like “large jump in board scores” and “increase in competitive USMD applicants” were thrown around often. Maybe these mean nothing, we’ll see.

...And I’m a little bitter because I didn’t match into psych despite my good scores :(
 
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You’re right that the data isn’t there, I’m getting this from statements made by several PDs on the interview trail, who I (possibly incorrectly) suspect have more access to data than we do. Additionally, phrases like “large jump in board scores” and “increase in competitive USMD applicants” were thrown around often. Maybe these mean nothing, we’ll see.

...And I’m a little bitter because I didn’t match into psych despite my good scores :(

I'm sorry to hear that =(. I wish you all the best moving forward.

I've said this a lot before, but as I've personally reached out to PDs my self, I've been told while board scores are huge, psych seems to weigh more into "commitment to psych" rather than the numbers, whatever that means. I guess the proof will be in the pudding when the NMRP matching outcomes data comes out.

I am a super neurotic med student (even more than your average med student) so I tend to look at hard numbers and look for anything positive I can gleam from them, so I guess in a way I'm more optimistic than average.
 
PCOM GA

Anesthesiology

Medical College of Georgia (GA)
Penn State Hershey Medical Center (PA)
Thomas Jefferson University (PA)
Tufts Medical Center (MA)


Emergency Medicine
Aventura Hospital (FL)
Baystate Medical Center (MA)
Campbell Univ Southeastern Health (NC)
Grand Strand Regional Medical Center (SC)
Guthrie/Robert Packer Hospital (PA)
USF — Oak Hill (FL)
Palm Beach Consortium for GME (FL)
Rutgers-R W Johnson Medical School (NJ)
University Hospitals (MS)
University of Florida — Jacksonville (FL)
Vidant Med Ctr/East Carolina Univ (NC)
WellStar Kennestone Regional Medical Center (GA)

Family Medicine
Albert Einstein Healthcare Network (PA)
Atlanta Medical Center (GA)
Baptist Outreach Services (AL)
Cahaba Medical Care (AL)
Campbell University (NC)
Cone Health (NC)
Eglin Air Forec Base (FL)
Emory University SOM (GA)
Family Medicine Residency of Idaho (ID)
Floyd Medical Center (GA)
Forrest General Hospital (MS)
HCA Healthcare/USF Morsani GME (FL)
Manatee Memorial Hospital (FL)
Medical College of Georgia (GA)
Memorial Health - Univ Med Ctr (GA)
Methodist Hospital (TX)
Morehouse School of Medicine (GA)
Mountain AHEC (NC)
Northeast Georgia Medical Center (GA)
OMECO (OK)
Piedmont Columbus Regional (GA)
South Georgia Medical Education & Research Consortium (GA)
Spartanburg Regional Healthcare (SC)
St. Mary-Corwin Medical Center (CO)
University of Tennessee COM (TN)
Univ of Florida COM-Shands Hosp (FL)
UPMC Medical Hospitals (PA)
WellStar Kennestone Reg MedCtr (GA)

General Surgery
Geisinger Health System (PA)
HCA Healthcare/USF Morsani GME (FL)
Vidant Med Ctr/East Carolina Univ (NC)

Internal Medicine
Albert Einstein Medical Center (PA)
AU-UGA Medical Partnership (GA)
Broward Health Medical Center (FL)
Campbell University (NC)
Carolinas HealthCare Syst Blue Ridge (NC)
Coliseum Medical Center (GA)
Emory University SOM (GA)
HCA HealthCare USF Morgani (FL)
Jefferson Health Northeast (PA)
Med Ctr Ctrl GA/Mercer Univ SOM (GA)
MedStar Union Memorial Hospital (MD)
Memorial Health - Univ Med Ctr (GA)
Mercy Health-St. Ritas Medical Ctr (OH)
Midwestern University OPTI (AZ)
Northside Hospital Gwinnett (GA)
PCOM (PA)
Piedmont Athens Regional (GA)
Redmond Regional Medical Center (GA)
Stony Brook Teaching Hospital (NY)
University of Florida COM (FL)
Univ of Arizona COM-South Campus (AZ)
Wellington Regional Medical Center (FL)
WellStar Kennestone Reg Med Ctr (GA)


Internal Medicine/Pediatrics
Baystate Medical Center, MA


Internship
Merit Health -Wesley (MS)


Neurology

Baylor College of Medicine (TX)
HealthONE (CO)


Obstetrics and Gynecology
Beaumont Health (MI)
Campbell University (NC)
Portsmouth Naval Medical Center (ME)


Orthopaedic Surgery
Beaumont Health (MI)
Cleveland Clinic South Pointe (OH)


Osteo Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine
MountainView Regional Medical Ctr (NM)


Pathology
Baylor University Medical Center — Dallas (TX)
University of South Florida Morsani COM (FL)


Pediatrics
Baylor College of Medicine — San Antonio (TX)
Eastern VA Medical School (VA)
Good Samaritan Hospital Med Ctr (NY)
Medical Ctr GA/Mercer Univ SOM (GA)
Medical College of Georgia (GA)
Prisma Health-Upstate/University of South Carolina SOM (SC)
SUNY Upstate Medical University (NY)
Univ of Miami/Jackson Health System (FL)
University of Tennessee — Chattanooga (TN)
University of Texas Medical Branch (TX)


Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
SUNY Upstate Medical University (NY)


Psychiatry
AtlantiCare Regional Medical Center (NJ)
Medical College of Georgia (GA)
Palm Beach Consortium for GME (FL)
Pine Rest Christian Mental Hlth Svs (MI)
University of Kansas SOM (KS)


Radiology-Diagnostic
Medical College of Georgia (GA)
University of Cincinnati (OH)


Surgery Preliminary
Morehouse School of Medicine (GA)


Unfortunately PCOM is intentionally vague about which branches we match at, so I don't have more info about which Baylor, University of Texas, etc.
 
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You’re right that the data isn’t there, I’m getting this from statements made by several PDs on the interview trail, who I (possibly incorrectly) suspect have more access to data than we do. Additionally, phrases like “large jump in board scores” and “increase in competitive USMD applicants” were thrown around often. Maybe these mean nothing, we’ll see.

...And I’m a little bitter because I didn’t match into psych despite my good scores :(

I’m sorry to hear that my man. With ~15% of all US grads (MD+DO) not matching psych, you can be sure a lot of great candidates, like yourself, were passed up.
 
You’re right that the data isn’t there, I’m getting this from statements made by several PDs on the interview trail, who I (possibly incorrectly) suspect have more access to data than we do. Additionally, phrases like “large jump in board scores” and “increase in competitive USMD applicants” were thrown around often. Maybe these mean nothing, we’ll see.

...And I’m a little bitter because I didn’t match into psych despite my good scores :(
Sorry about that man. Did you end up applying to backup specialties/match into one of them?
 
PCOM GA

Anesthesiology
Medical College of Georgia

Emergency Medicine
Ole Miss
WellStar Kennestone
ECU
UF Jacksonville
USF Oak Hill

Family Medicine
Medical College of Georgia x 2
Piedmont Columbus GA x 2
Cahaba Regional
Baptist Montgomery AL
UPMC Susquehanna
Eglin AFB
Colquitt Regional
WellStar Kennestone

Internal Medicine
Univ of Arizona
WellStar Kennestone x 2
Redmond Regional
Jefferson
PCOM
AU/UGA St. Mary's Athens, GA
Stony Brook
Grand Strand Myrtle Beach, SC

OB/GYN
Mercer Savannah
Campbell Univ
Oakland U/Beaumont

Orthopedic Surgery
Oakland U/Beaumont
Cleveland Clinic South Pointe

Pediatrics
UT Chattanooga
Univ of Miami
Baylor San Antonio
Medical College of Georgia

That Jefferson IM match...is that philly or NJ?
 
Here's the full match list for TouroCOM Middletown. Should be posted to the website soon as well.

PG1 Inst NamePG1 StatePG1 Specialty DescPG2 Inst NamePG2 CityPG2 State CdPG2 Specialty Desc
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
SUNY HSC BrooklynNYAnesthesiology
West Virginia University SOMWVAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
SUNY Upstate Med UniversityNYAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
U Massachusetts Med SchoolMAAnesthesiology
Cleveland Clinic FdnOHAnesthesiology
Icahn SOM St LukesNYAnesthesiology
Christiana CareDEEmergency Med-FamilyMed
Albany Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Lehigh Valley HospPAEmergency Medicine
Texas Tech U AffilTXEmergency Medicine
SUNY Upstate Med UniversityNYEmergency Medicine
Zucker SOM Northwell Staten Island UnivNYEmergency Medicine
Good Samaritan Hosp Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Hackensack U Med CtrNJEmergency Medicine
Inspira Health NetworkNJEmergency Medicine
Albert Einstein Med CtrPAEmergency Medicine
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYEmergency Medicine
Orange Reg Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Health QuestNYEmergency Medicine
New York PresbyterianNYEmergency Medicine
Montefiore Med Ctr/EinsteinNYEmergency Medicine/Jacobi
Eastern CT Health NetworkCTFamily Medicine
Ascension Genesys HospitalMIFamily Medicine
Crozer Chester Medical CenterPAFamily Medicine
Ellis HospitalNYFamily Medicine
Arrowhead Reg Med CtrCAFamily Medicine
Hunterdon Med CtrNJFamily Medicine
Samaritan Health ServicesORFamily Medicine
Shasta Community Health CtrCAFamily Medicine
Ventura County Med CtrCAFamily Medicine
Crozer Chester Medical CenterPAFamily Medicine
Morristown Mem HospNJFamily Medicine
Zucker SOM Northwell Plainview HospNYFamily Medicine
Zucker SOM Northwell Plainview HospNYFamily Medicine
Geisinger Health SystemPAFamily Medicine
Zucker SOM Northwell Phelps HospitalNYFamily Medicine
Penn Highlands HealthcarePAFamily Medicine
Loma Linda UniversityCAFamily Medicine
Providence HealthORFamily Medicine
Providence HealthORFamily Medicine
U Illinois COMILFamily Medicine
Beaumont HealthMIFamily Medicine
Orange Reg Med CtrNYGeneral Surgery
St Elizabeth Youngstown HospOHGeneral Surgery
HMH-Palisades Medical CenterNJGeneral Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSUMIInternal Medicine
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYInternal Medicine
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYInternal Medicine
Montefiore Med Ctr/EinsteinNYInternal Medicine
Icahn SOM Elmhurst Hosp CtrNYInternal Medicine
St Mary Med CtrPAInternal Medicine
Arrowhead Reg Med CtrCAInternal Medicine
RowanSOMNew jerseyInternal Medicine
Wright Patterson Air Force BaseOHInternal Medicine
Cleveland Clinic FdnOHInternal Medicine
Norwalk HospitalCTInternal Medicine
HCA Healthcare/USF MorsaniFlInternal Medicine
Christiana CareDEInternal Medicine
Orange Reg Med CtrNYInternal Medicine
Jersey Shore Univ Med CtrNJInternal Medicine
Rowan University SOMNJInternal Medicine
Kaiser PermanenteCAInternal Medicine
Orange Regional Medical CenterNew YorkInternal Medicine
MedStar Georgetown Univ HospDCInternal Medicine
Christiana CareDEInternal Medicine
Icahn SOM St LukesNYInternal Medicine
Inspira Health NetworkNJInternal Medicine
Cleveland Clinic FdnOHInternal Medicine
Icahn SOM Queens HospitalNYMedicine-PreliminaryMonmouth Med CtrNJRadiology-Diagnostic
Maimonides Med CtrNYMedicine-PreliminaryMaimonides Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
YaleCTMedicine-Primary
U Connecticut School of MedicineCTMedicine-Primary
Allegheny Gen HospPAMedicine-PreliminaryAllegheny Gen HospPANeurology
Montefiore Med Ctr/EinsteinNYMedicine-Preliminary
U Rochester/Strong MemorialNYNeurology
Cleveland Clinic FdnOHNeurology
St Lukes HospPANeurology
Albany Med CtrNYNeurology
MedStar Georgetown Univ HospDCNeurology
U Florida COM Shands HospFLNeurology
Inova Fairfax HospitalVAObstetrics-Gynecology
Newark Beth Israel Med CtrNJObstetrics-Gynecology
Health QuestNYObstetrics-Gynecology
Nassau Univ Med CtrNYOrthopaedic Surgery
St Barnabas HospNYOsteo Neuromusculoskeletal Med
Cook County Health and Hosps SysILPediatrics
University of Utah HealthUTPediatrics
Good Samaritan Hosp Med CtrNYPediatrics
Hackensack U Med CtrNJPediatrics
U Connecticut School of MedicineCTPediatrics
Pam Beach Consortium for GMEFloridaPediatrics
Childrens HospitalCAPediatrics
U Illinois COMILPediatrics
St Peters University HospNJPediatrics
Jersey Shore Univ Med CtrNJPediatrics
Madigan Army Medical CenterWAPediatrics
U Massachusetts Med SchoolMAPediatrics
Geisinger Health SystemPAPediatrics
U New Mexico SOMNMPediatrics
Baystate Med CtrMAPediatrics
Maimonides Med CtrNYPediatrics
Vidant Med Ctr/East Carolina UnivNCPhys Medicine & Rehab
Palm Beach Consortium for GMEFLPsychiatry
Orange Reg Med CtrNYPsychiatry
St Lukes HospPAPsychiatry
TIGMERTXPsychiatry
Geisinger Health SystemPAPsychiatry
U Massachusetts Med SchoolMAPsychiatry
U Arizona COMAZPsychiatry
Medical University of SCSCPsychiatry
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYPsychiatry
Health QuestNYTransitional Year
Orange Reg Med CtrNYTransitional YearPenn State Hershey Med CtrPARadiology-Diagnostic
Zucker SOM Northwell Plainview HospNYTransitional YearCook County Health and Hosps SysILRadiology-Diagnostic
U Illinois COM Peoria OSFILTransitional Year
Zucker SOM Northwell Peconic BayNYTransitional YearRutgers New Jersey Medical SchoolNJPhys Medicine & Rehab
HCA Healthcare/USF Morsani GMEFLTransitional YearHCA Healthcare/USF Morsani GMEOak HillFLAnesthesiology
Ascension St John HospMITransitional YearRutgers R W Johnson Medical SchoolNeurology
Walter Reed National Medical CenterMDTransitional Year
Mountain State OPTIWVTransitional Year
John Peter SmithTXTransitional YearHMH Palisades Med CtrNJDermatology
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYTransitional Year
Main Line HealthPAUrology
 
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Here's some doom and gloom. Ob/gyn was a bloodbath this year for DOs. Match rate was around 65% and I have not seen a single match on this thread where I thought "wow that's a strong academic program." Some of this may be a symptom of program preference (I matched to a super strong community program and had 4 solid academic programs lower on my list)

Before people chime in and say that people were using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, stop. No DO in their right mind was using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, from what I've seen and heard that 65% is pretty spot on.
 
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Here's some doom and gloom. Ob/gyn was a bloodbath this year for DOs. Match rate was around 65% and I have not seen a single match on this thread where I thought "wow that's a strong academic program." Some of this may be a symptom of program preference (I matched to a super strong community program and had 4 solid academic programs lower on my list)

Before people chime in and say that people were using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, stop. No DO in their right mind was using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, from what I've seen and heard that 65% is pretty spot on.

Idk I think our class had ok to decent matches. It’s all perspective. I saw other specialties including my own have between a 60-70 percent match rate for DOs. Sure it could be due to backup or program preference etc. (But as my dean says if you aren’t applying family or internal you should have a back up. )Therefore I don’t think 65 percent is a terrible number for OBGYN. Specialties are competitive. Congrats on your match.
 
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Here's the full match list for TouroCOM Middletown. Should be posted to the website soon as well.

PG1 Inst NamePG1 StatePG1 Specialty DescPG2 Inst NamePG2 CityPG2 State CdPG2 Specialty Desc
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
SUNY HSC BrooklynNYAnesthesiology
West Virginia University SOMWVAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
SUNY Upstate Med UniversityNYAnesthesiology
Albany Med CtrNYAnesthesiology
U Massachusetts Med SchoolMAAnesthesiology
Cleveland Clinic FdnOHAnesthesiology
Icahn SOM St LukesNYAnesthesiology
Christiana CareDEEmergency Med-FamilyMed
Albany Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Lehigh Valley HospPAEmergency Medicine
Texas Tech U AffilTXEmergency Medicine
SUNY Upstate Med UniversityNYEmergency Medicine
Zucker SOM Northwell Staten Island UnivNYEmergency Medicine
Good Samaritan Hosp Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Hackensack U Med CtrNJEmergency Medicine
Inspira Health NetworkNJEmergency Medicine
Albert Einstein Med CtrPAEmergency Medicine
Stony Brook Teach HospsNYEmergency Medicine
Orange Reg Med CtrNYEmergency Medicine
Health QuestNYEmergency Medicine
New York PresbyterianNYEmergency Medicine
Montefiore Med Ctr/EinsteinNYEmergency Medicine/Jacobi
Eastern CT Health NetworkCTFamily Medicine
Ascension Genesys HospitalMIFamily Medicine
Crozer Chester Medical CenterPAFamily Medicine
Ellis HospitalNYFamily Medicine
Arrowhead Reg Med CtrCAFamily Medicine
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I like that they list the PGY 2 matches along side the prelim years and TYs.
 
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Here's some doom and gloom. Ob/gyn was a bloodbath this year for DOs. Match rate was around 65% and I have not seen a single match on this thread where I thought "wow that's a strong academic program." Some of this may be a symptom of program preference (I matched to a super strong community program and had 4 solid academic programs lower on my list)

Before people chime in and say that people were using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, stop. No DO in their right mind was using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, from what I've seen and heard that 65% is pretty spot on.
Not really doom and gloom bc DO match rate in OB has been in the 60s% for the past few years. The fact that it stayed stable with 1000 more DOs participating in the match than last year is a better sign.
 
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I'm waiting to see charting outcomes before I make any judgements. I suspect we will see a lot of people applying out of their league specialty wise.
 
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Here's some doom and gloom. Ob/gyn was a bloodbath this year for DOs. Match rate was around 65% and I have not seen a single match on this thread where I thought "wow that's a strong academic program." Some of this may be a symptom of program preference (I matched to a super strong community program and had 4 solid academic programs lower on my list)

Before people chime in and say that people were using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, stop. No DO in their right mind was using ob/gyn as a backup specialty, from what I've seen and heard that 65% is pretty spot on.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Were there many AOA OBGYN programs that made it ACGME? 2/3 is low, but it might actually be higher than previous years.

2018: 60.8% (first-choice) OBGYN match rate for DO Seniors [2]
2020: 65% (any-choice) OBGYN match for DO Seniors [1]

2018: 88.4% (first-choice) OBGYN match rate for MD Seniors [3]
2020: 84% (any-choice) OBGYN match for MD Seniors [1]

[1] https://mk0nrmp3oyqui6wqfm.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Advance-Data-Tables-2020.pdf
[2] http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-2018-Osteo.pdf
[3] https://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-2018-Seniors.pdf
 
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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Were there many AOA OBGYN programs that made it ACGME? 2/3 is low, but it might actually be higher than previous years.

2018: 60.8% (first-choice) OBGYN match rate for DO Seniors [2]
2020: 65% (any-choice) OBGYN match for DO Seniors [1]

2018: 88.4% (first-choice) OBGYN match rate for MD Seniors [3]
2020: 84% (any-choice) OBGYN match for MD Seniors [1]

[1] https://mk0nrmp3oyqui6wqfm.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Advance-Data-Tables-2020.pdf
[2] http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-2018-Osteo.pdf
[3] https://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-2018-Seniors.pdf

That's still pretty brutal. I wouldn't apply obgyn without a solid backup.
 
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PCOM GA

Anesthesiology
Medical College of Georgia

Emergency Medicine
Ole Miss
WellStar Kennestone
ECU
UF Jacksonville
USF Oak Hill

Family Medicine
Medical College of Georgia x 2
Piedmont Columbus GA x 2
Cahaba Family Medicine Centreville, AL
Baptist Montgomery AL
UPMC Susquehanna
Eglin AFB
Colquitt Regional
WellStar Kennestone

Internal Medicine
Univ of Arizona
WellStar Kennestone x 2
Redmond Regional
Thomas Jefferson
PCOM
AU/UGA St. Mary's Athens, GA
Stony Brook
Grand Strand Myrtle Beach, SC

OB/GYN
Mercer Savannah
Campbell Univ
Oakland U/Beaumont

Orthopedic Surgery
Oakland U/Beaumont
Cleveland Clinic South Pointe

Pediatrics
UT Chattanooga
Univ of Miami
Baylor San Antonio
Medical College of Georgia
SUNY Upstate
Oakland U/beaumont RO ortho program? Thats their first DO im pretty sure, and the second largest program by volume in the country
 
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can someone explain me to the match for rads? Number of DO Applicants: 157 and Number of DO Matches: 28. Am I reading this wrong?
 
No DO in their right mind was using ob/gyn as a backup specialty

Don't worry... Basically no normal person picks ob/gyn as their primary specialty, let alone as a backup!

Look at the "score unknown" category on page 144.... The ob/gyn squad needs to get their **** together, obviously PDs want something the applicants aren't providing.
 
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can someone explain me to the match for rads? Number of DO Applicants: 157 and Number of DO Matches: 28. Am I reading this wrong?
I think you're looking at categorical PGY-1 rads. Most radiology positions are PGY-2.
 
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That's still pretty brutal. I wouldn't apply obgyn without a solid backup.

It’s just not obviously worse than recent history.

can someone explain me to the match for rads? Number of DO Applicants: 157 and Number of DO Matches: 28. Am I reading this wrong?

Yeah, check the PGY2 tables. It’s not possible to decipher the match rate from this data. Read this:

I believe this data includes duplicates. If someone applied to Categorical and Advanced Anesthesia, they are counted as an applicant for each but only a match for one.

This data also does not respect first choice specialty versus second versus third etc. So if someone applied GS (and Anesthesia, as second choice), and matched GS, they are counted as applicants for both, but a match for only one.

For example, apparant match rate for Anesthesia PGY1 and PGY2 (respectively):
  • 68.2% (936/1372) and 25.5% (265/1038) for USMD
  • 60.5% (262/433) and 22.0% (65/295) for USDO
In reality, we can assume the percentage of USMD and USDO who ranked anesthesia first and matched anesthesia is higher than as presented here. We'll have a clearer picture when Charting Outcomes 2020 is published.
 
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can someone explain me to the match for rads? Number of DO Applicants: 157 and Number of DO Matches: 28. Am I reading this wrong?
Rads (like Ophtho/Derm/Anesthesia) residency technically starts at PGY-2. Some residencies include a transitional year (PGY-1), but most do not. Look at PGY-2 Positions. 204 DO applicants applied, 135 matched to PGY-2 Rads positions.
 
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Everyone here is doing the math wrong. You can’t just divide each specialty in such a way that: number of matches is divided by number of applicants. The math just doesn’t make sense. The way they are counting an applicant is clearly not defined and not in any way, shape, or form how it’s being defined here.

If you do the math how everyone in this thread is then you get like a 65% “match rate” overall for US MDs (18,000 matched/ 28,000 applicants)- Table 1A. I mean lol cmon let’s be real here. There were only 19,000 ish active US MD seniors so clearly something is afoot.

Waiting until charting outcomes is the wise decision. Unless someone knows exactly how they break these numbers down it’s a fruitless exercise. None of these numbers makes sense when you compare the same chart for years past with the charting outcomes and the interactive table of those same years.
 
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So far UNECOM, havent heard much but heard they matched really well.

Mayo (main campus) - FM
Mayo Jacksonville - FM
Mclaren - Ortho
Harvard - psych
UCONN - IM
Creighton/Maricopa - EM
Tufts - Anesthesia, Peds
St.Elizabeth(Boston) - anesthesia
Brown - FM, peds, ortho
Kent hosp RI - IM
Baystate - IM/OBGYN
UMass - IM, OBGYN
Mercy St.vincent Ohio - OBGYN
Lahey clinic - IM
UMinnesota - FM
Health One, Denver - neurology
Christiana - EM
Case Western - PMR
Maine med - peds

UNECOM also had Penn State Gen Surg
 
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