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You mind if I borrow this pick up line for bars??? I've got a good feeling about it.
WOAH. wait just a minute. i just checked my gmail. my premed adviser wrote that "i should also consider the pay discrepancy." WTF is she talking about??? there's a pay discrepancy between DO's and MD's now??
WOAH. wait just a minute. i just checked my gmail. my premed adviser wrote that "i should also consider the pay discrepancy." WTF is she talking about??? there's a pay discrepancy between DO's and MD's now??
I got accepted to both MD and DO schools and chose DO based on your exact reasons and I'm a resident now. Don't listen to what any of the pre-med kiddies here tell you. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
WOAH. wait just a minute. i just checked my gmail. my premed adviser wrote that "i should also consider the pay discrepancy." WTF is she talking about??? there's a pay discrepancy between DO's and MD's now??
You mine as well talk to the homeless guy rambling drunk outside of the bars near your college before you talk to the pre-medical advisers at your college. They are clueless and wrong in this, and most, cases.
nah, my adviser knows her stuff. she's been indispensable during this application cycle. she might just be speaking subjectively here, though
nah, my adviser knows her stuff. she's been indispensable during this application cycle. she might just be speaking subjectively here, though
Refresh my memory with images, if you could. 😉
I'm really glad i posted this question. it was no fun mulling it over myself. i'd like to modify something i said earlier: it's not that I care about the initials after my name. I just want to know if others will. but i'm getting the impression, from this thread, that they wont...or they probably don't know the difference.
if DO's had the same exposure as MDs then this decision would be a lot easier...
http://www.docnet.org/physicians/phys_bios.aspx?phys_id=10145
Doesn't look like her being a DO played too much part of her being included in the film. Honestly, I remember being in undergrad and seeing 'Supersize Me' at a campus screening and noticing the DO initials of the doctor. At the time, I figured that it just meant she was a special doctor of some sort...given the frequency at which nurses are referred to as 'doctor,' I'm sure most Americans have a similar mode of thinking.
OP: Going the DO route may come to hurt you if you should decide to persue an academic career. Barring that, I don't see any shortcomings to going the DO route especially considering your desire to do primary care. Going to an OOS MD school, espeicialy if its significantly higher in tuition could potentially force you out of primary care for financial reasons like many other current med students (including yours truly).
I've been accepted to one MD school. It's OOS but i have close ties (my parents live there). I've also been accepted to 3 DO schools. One is in my resident state, the city where i've lived pretty much my entire life. I am planning to get married soon to my fiance and we really want to stay near our hometown. SO, do you guys think that I would regret it if I chose the nearer DO school over the MD school i got into (which, i forgot to mention, is on the east coast, whereas my hometown is on the West coast). Do you think there's still a "stigma" attached to being a DO in the medical community? You think it might affect me down the line when i apply to residencies?
any advice/help is greatly appreciated. if you need other info, just ask.
At my sisters 28th birthday, I was talking with her friends about my medical school goals. When they asked me what post-grad school I wanted to go to I mentioned my favorite respective M.D./D.O. schools.
No one there know what an M.D. or a D.O. was. I had to literally explain letter for letter to a group of 8 adults that an M.D. was a physician.
In short: the general public doesn't know or care about the difference between an M.D. or a D.O.
You're from Texas. Of course you would go to TCOM before you go to any OOS school!
Oh no, here comes Bacchus again with his infinite wisdom 😎. If you are worried about what others will think you have inferiority issues that well go beyond your future career. Be rational; no doctor is going to run out of patients unless he or she is useless, vile, loathing, etc.
Money talks in America. People are going to say what they do for a variety of reasons. Show them your paycheck, as a DO, and they will shut up or show great envy of you. The people telling you this bull**** are those with inferiority complexes. Do not stoop to their level.
You are legally able to call yourself a physician. Why do you care what others think? Grow a pair and move on.
At my sisters 28th birthday, I was talking with her friends about my medical school goals. When they asked me what post-grad school I wanted to go to I mentioned my favorite respective M.D./D.O. schools.
No one there know what an M.D. or a D.O. was. I had to literally explain letter for letter to a group of eight adults that an M.D. was a physician.
In short: the general public doesn't know or care about the difference between an M.D. or a D.O.
look, you talk about from a warm place. If you are from california or the west coast, think before you go DO. DO doesn't fly as well in california.
Maybe not as much in the Northern part (who hella cares), but I'm from the Southern part and I've heard nothing but good things from docs down here.
Maybe not as much in the Northern part (who hella cares), but I'm from the Southern part and I've heard nothing but good things from docs down here.
again, please don't go DO if you are from california. I know certain group practice that won't hire MDs. Believe me, they get to choose because everyone wants to be in Cali.
I was faced with the same choice, and I choose to leave California and do a long distance relationship. Don't shoot your career before it even begin.
again, please don't go DO if you are from california. I know certain group practice that won't hire MDs. Believe me, they get to choose because everyone wants to be in Cali.
I was faced with the same choice, and I choose to leave California and do a long distance relationship. Don't shoot your career before it even begin.
The North Coast (Mendocino/Humboldt County) is very DO-friendly.
Good examples, but they'll mean nothing on SDN.
nah, my adviser knows her stuff. she's been indispensable during this application cycle. she might just be speaking subjectively here, though
Good examples, but they'll mean nothing on SDN.
I figured I'd just throw in my two cents ahhaha
California is horrendously overrated.
Jagger, I'm not saying becoming a DO is necessarily a bad thing. I just think it's important that a person fully understands that they will be perceived differently by a number of patients. You are probably right that patients generally don't know too much about the medical field, but I think most know that doctors are MD. It's in pop culture and people are used to seeing signs on buildings saying First Last, M.D.
In what aspect? It sucks in some, it's better than anywhere else in the US in others.
I work in a medical office which houses two critical care related specialties. There is one DO out of 7 doctors in the office. The DO (who happens to be the head of his practice and former chief of staff of the hospital which which he is affiliated) has by far the most patients. For every patient that is turned off by seeing DO, there is at least 1 person if not several people that see it as a pro.
Overrated =/= Bad.
Overrated == Overrated.
I've been accepted to one MD school. It's OOS but i have close ties (my parents live there). I've also been accepted to 3 DO schools. One is in my resident state, the city where i've lived pretty much my entire life. I am planning to get married soon to my fiance and we really want to stay near our hometown. SO, do you guys think that I would regret it if I chose the nearer DO school over the MD school i got into (which, i forgot to mention, is on the east coast, whereas my hometown is on the West coast). Do you think there's still a "stigma" attached to being a DO in the medical community? You think it might affect me down the line when i apply to residencies?
any advice/help is greatly appreciated. if you need other info, just ask.
Hi guys. Look a bird.
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Cool looking bird.
I am for going down hill. Down stream. Medical school and training is enough work just to b average. You have but to do the right research to determine going DO means going uphill in a variety of situations.
When I was thinking for sure I wanted to be a pediatrician. Then I would have applied to instate DO schools and thought hard about it. Now that I'm not sure about primary care. The debate in my head is dead. The MD degree is an easier ticket. That makes is itself painfully clear in certain locales and certain specialties.
I don't get the argument that stresses hard work as a panacea. Whether you go DO or MD your up against the brightest, hardest-hustling students in the country. I d@mn sure don't want to be starting at a disadvantage. But maybe because after battling up hill as a premed with a lower gpa I've just had enough. That and I'm taking a hard look at Radiology from the get go.
Either way. Use your own mind and balls to make your own decision and go with it.
Regular people = the huge majority of Americans, a huge majority of which don't even have health insurance or a PCP, let alone give a crap or have any clue whatsoever regarding their doc's credentials.
I also do not want to spend the next 40 years of my life explaning what DO is..
I had one patient ask about the initials two years ago when I was a 3rd year student. Nobody else has ever asked (out of hundreds to thousands).
Pre-meds always want to be the best and most prestigious at whatever they do, which is probably why they all think they're going into radiology, dermatology, cardiology, or neurosurgery (note that most of you won't). Sick patients just want to get better. This is a difficult concept for pre-meds to grasp.
I think everybody (most people) agree w/ you that DO = MD. I personally agree w/ you. However, many Americans do not know what DO is, nor care b/c they are accustomed to MD. Personally, I want to go MD for this reason alone. Although I do not believe MD > DO, I also do not want to spend the next 40 years of my life explaning what DO is. I want people to see me and immediately think, "okay this doctor is going to help me", and not ,"is he qualified"? I can't help if people in society are misinformed, and could personally try my hardest to educate people...but the truth is, most people won't care. Rather than educating the world, I rather take the easy route and just get a MD. Irony lol.