Dress codes?

[millepora]

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[PunkmedGirl]

I don't think this is a big deal because when you get out into the real world you are going to have to dress up or wear scrubs. I think schools that enforce that are making sure their students succeed in every aspect of becoming a physician. I mean you have to think about it you are going to a professional school so it makes sense to act as professional as you can.

 

[Booster]

University of Miami at FAU enforces a dress code. I am sure other medical schools do as well (MD). I think it has a lot to do with making students feel professional and respectable. Like it has been said before, might as well start dressing the part.

 

[VA1986]

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[DocHomer]

I guess this is just a curiosity of mine. I was just wondering if others had input towards the subject.

I have come to find a fair share of DO schools have dress codes, and no MD schools have one. I am starting to wonder if this is because of something.

I have a hypothesis based on difference of students that MD and DO schools let in, but it may be offensive, so I am hesitate to say it.

Don't worry, they have ways of keeping those types of people out of DO schools. Some schools even build a fence.

Well you implied it, and yes it is offensive.

 

[millepora]

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[DocHomer]

Well, the fact is we are paying them to receive our education. Also we have to dress how they want during our clinical rotations (so that makes for a perfect transition into the real world). If we are stuck in a classroom for half of the day, we should least dress in whatever attire makes us feel more comfortable.
.....We got to in college!😀

I think the fence remark went right over my head? What do you mean by that?

You said that you had a hypothesis on why DO schools have a dress code and MD schools don't based on the type of students they let in. You gave the impression that DO schools accept substandard students from various socioeconomic backgrounds. Basically, what I'm trying to say is you sounded racist, intentionally or unintentionally.

 

[millepora]

No, I wasn't applying anything racial. Purely academics. MCAT scores, GPA, board pass rates, drop out rates, etc.

 

[VA1986]

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[CardioPlus]

No, I wasn't applying anything racial. Purely academics. MCAT scores, GPA, board pass rates, drop out rates, etc.

 

[beachblonde]

No, I wasn't applying anything racial. Purely academics. MCAT scores, GPA, board pass rates, drop out rates, etc.

I like the implication that since you seem to think I have a substandard GPA or whatever that my school has to beat me like a dog with a newspaper to make a respectable student?

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(and FWIW, just because you seem to think transitioning to 24/7 business attire is ridiculously easy, you'd be surprised at the number of people who don't grasp that concept....there have been a number of articles published where doctors bemoan that their students don't know how to dress properly for rotations-quoting MD schools, thankyouverymuch)

 

[RG73]

Well, the fact is we are paying them to receive our education. Also we have to dress how they want during our clinical rotations (so that makes for a perfect transition into the real world). If we are stuck in a classroom for half of the day, we should least dress in whatever attire makes us feel more comfortable.
.....We got to in college!😀

Part of the education you are ostensibly paying for is teaching you to be a professional and a responsible adult. And that involves learning how to dress like a professional.

I don't get the argument that you ought to be able to do whatever you want because you're stuck in a classroom. Guess what? If you go into medicine, a large portion of the next decade is going to require you to suck it up and do things that make you uncomfortable. You're going to be stuck doing long shifts at the hospital. You can't just "do whatever" to make yourself comfortable while you're on the job. So get used to making small sacrifices like, oh gee, having to wear slacks, a button up shirt and a tie for 12 hours a day.

If I get into medical school and they want me to wear a tie every day to class, big deal. I'm jumping through so many hoops to get there and I know there's a million more ahead--a dress code is really the least of my concerns. I'm not going to shed tears because I can't walk around medical school in shorts and sandals. That's what your undergrad years were for.

 

[millepora]

So based on your wild assumptions that we are all dumber than MD students, then that means we would prefer to go to class wearing wife beaters and jean shorts instead of more tasteful clothing. Gotcha, troll.

Calm down. Actually anyone would prefer to go to class wearing shorts and sandals, me especially!




Btw, I did not mean for this thread to end up the way it did, I was not trying to troll. I apologize for the way I brought up my initial statement, because it looks like I offended everyone. Sorry.

 

[RG73]

Calm down. Actually anyone would prefer to go to class wearing shorts and sandals, me especially!

I wouldn't. But I'm not a 22 year old kid anymore, so maybe that has something to do with it.

But seriously, I would not go to professional school dressed in shorts. Not to law school, not to business school, not to medical school. That is why they're professional schools.

Graduate school? Sure. It's damn near impossible to get most academics to dress up, and I know plenty of tenured, 50-something year old profs who will even go so far as to teach in shorts and sandals (which is unprofessional IMO). So in that environment, sure, it is perfectly acceptable to wear shorts. In any sort of professional school, no. If you're going to a program that is going to put you into the top 5% of income earners in the country, dress the damn part.

 

[PunkmedGirl]

I wouldn't. But I'm not a 22 year old kid anymore, so maybe that has something to do with it.

But seriously, I would not go to professional school dressed in shorts. Not to law school, not to business school, not to medical school. That is why they're professional schools.

Graduate school? Sure. It's damn near impossible to get most academics to dress up, and I know plenty of tenured, 50-something year old profs who will even go so far as to teach in shorts and sandals (which is unprofessional IMO). So in that environment, sure, it is perfectly acceptable to wear shorts. In any sort of professional school, no. If you're going to a program that is going to put you into the top 5% of income earners in the country, dress the damn part.

👍 I really don't get why so many people complain about dressing up for class.

 

[ILikeDrugs]

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[Siggy]

First off, I'm completely of the opinion that people who can't dress themselves properly for clinical time have no business providing medical care. Needing someone else to dress themselves is just one step above needing someone to wipe their butts.

Second, I like the balance that the schools I've attended (Tufts for SMP, Western for medical school) struck with their medical students. Dealing with patients (standardized or real)? Shirt, tie, slacks, white coat. Outside of those situations, 'uniforms' are only enforced for technical reasons (shorts, t-shirt, sports bra (for women) for OMM, scrubs for GA lab). At Western, with the bipolar HVAC system in the OMS1 lecture hall, there's a 50/50 chance that it's either going to be hot, cold, or switch halfway through lectures. The ability to dress up or down as need be is extremely convenient. Similarly, I really don't want to be walking around in a shirt/tie/slacks in 80 degree weather for no better reason than some people get distracted because someone else wore shorts.

 

[VA1986]

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[voitokas]

Unique robots.

My avatar resents your sarcasm...🙂

Graduate school? Sure. It's damn near impossible to get most academics to dress up...

And that's probably the main reason that more DO schools have dress codes than MD schools; the schools that arose from the world of academia are used to how academics dress. The schools that come more from the business/professional sphere might expect their students to dress appropriately for that milieu.

I don't mind having to wear shirt and tie (although it might be because I'm older and have been out to the real world and back 🙂 ). I do try my best to look like an academic rather than a businessman, though! Extra-nerdy, as it were - and still use a backpack rather than briefcase.

One could also make the argument that having your little freedoms taken away is a part of a professional education. To be effective as part of an organization, you have to learn how to work within a harness. Maybe it's better to work out one's growing pains in M1 and M2...

 

[ILikeDrugs]

My avatar resents your sarcasm...🙂

You're avatar represents med students who wear slacks and ties just to go to lecture. 😉

 

[PunkmedGirl]

Exactly how many DO schools require a dress code besides the LECOMs and Nova?

 

[engineeredout]

I guess this is just a curiosity of mine. I was just wondering if others had input towards the subject.

I have come to find a fair share of DO schools have dress codes, and no MD schools have one. I am starting to wonder if this is because of something.

I have a hypothesis based on difference of students that MD and DO schools let in, but it may be offensive, so I am hesitate to say it.

Yeah, they have to force us to dress up for class because we're nothing but a bunch of ex-con MD rejects from the hood and if they didn't have drill instructors to whip us into shape every morning then we'd either shoot up the place or go to work in the hospital in a wife beater, a torn pair of jeans worn down at knee level, and a giant clock around the neck.

 

[Siggy]

Does anyone know the rules for the giant clock necklace? Western's policy states that it has to have a "second hand" on it so we can take vitals. Would a digital giant clock with a seconds display count be fine under this?

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[scummie]

Does anyone know the rules for the giant clock necklace? Western's policy states that it has to have a "second hand" on it so we can take vitals. Would a digital giant clock with a seconds display count be fine under this?

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