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[Abnerrs]

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@Abney this is my reasoning. It's the best I've got right now, but I'm still evaluating.

Thanks. I'm just feeling pretty confused today. I don't have anything that is screaming "vote here"

 

[DVMDream]

Who is injured right now? I may be able to help. I can't keep track.

I am, but my ability is completely used up so other than counting as villager number probably no immediate need for me to be healed

 

[WildZoo]

Can you point in the direction of wolfy posts because I'm reading a whole lot of nothing.

Well, that's part of it, nothing that says to me that she's doing much wolf hunting or putting much individual thought into the game. From day 1 (prior to this post were a lot of source material questions)

Yeah, rules stink!

Lynch The Man!
... but, based on the thinking that the ability thief may be in FB's group, I'll go with someone else.

Unlynch The Man, lynch html.

Jumps on the html wagon. This was made in the last hour of lynch when she had been posting on and off throughout the day. Sure, it's day 1, but she did play in dy's basics game and I'm a little more critical of players who played that game and still fall back on the usual methods.

Thank god, someone made a lynch tally!

Looking through things I think I can be okay with a Kata lynch, but I would love for her to check in since I know she's quiet sometimes. I'm not really feeling most of the other players currently up for lynch, though. For right now, though, I think I have to go with

Lynch AM

She's dropped way off the posting radar and she's not usually like that in games, so I find the change in style a little odd.

I'm going to go take an online quiz, but should hopefully be able to check in before lynch close.

I mentioned this post before and I think she responded but I still feel like it's reaching. AM has never been a super active player, and she frequently drops of the radar until there's a lynch wagon on her and she has to defend herself. Again, she's that crucial third vote on what quickly becomes a bandwagon. Now, this kind of depends on what AM turns out to be so I could be totally wrong on that account.

She was also late-ish on the Gwen vote, right on the middle of the bandwagon I think.

I know this stuff is pretty thin but I don't have anything better at the moment and I'm not seeing strong arguments on anyone, nor has anyone spoken up and said they have reason to believe she's a villager.

 

[Trilt]

Officialish Lynch Tally
RM () -
Promo (1) - DVMD
PBC (1) - Lupin
Vethed (4) - Kam, Guis, WZ, LIS

6/16 accounted for, lynch deadline 9pm CST/10pm EST.

 

[DVMDream]

How sure are we that gwen converted when dy died? Is this just a guess?

 

[WildZoo]

How sure are we that gwen converted when dy died? Is this just a guess?

It was all but stated outright in the writeup.

Poor Gwen. Though her pure hearted dragon could never have been converted to the darkness, as a rider she was not so immune. While her disaffected nature meant she was bound to turn eventually, the brutal murder of her beloved dragon sent her spinning right over the edge, turning her harmless blocks into injurious bonks, and converting her nature to the dark side.

 

[DVMDream]

It was all but stated outright in the writeup.

Thanks

 

[Lupin21]

Also, soz, but can someone post the Telgar tithe nights again. Not sure who posted the first time. There are not very many who could be the ability thief in my notes, and I am doing my best to work it out. Course, if anyone lied, it is all for naught, but what the hell, right? haha

 

[Abnerrs]

Well, that's part of it, nothing that says to me that she's doing much wolf hunting or putting much individual thought into the game. From day 1 (prior to this post were a lot of source material questions)

Jumps on the html wagon. This was made in the last hour of lynch when she had been posting on and off throughout the day. Sure, it's day 1, but she did play in dy's basics game and I'm a little more critical of players who played that game and still fall back on the usual methods.


I mentioned this post before and I think she responded but I still feel like it's reaching. AM has never been a super active player, and she frequently drops of the radar until there's a lynch wagon on her and she has to defend herself. Again, she's that crucial third vote on what quickly becomes a bandwagon. Now, this kind of depends on what AM turns out to be so I could be totally wrong on that account.

She was also late-ish on the Gwen vote, right on the middle of the bandwagon I think.

I know this stuff is pretty thin but I don't have anything better at the moment and I'm not seeing strong arguments on anyone, nor has anyone spoken up and said they have reason to believe she's a villager.

I can dig it. And I don't have very strong feelings of my own today.

Lynch vmh

 

[WildZoo]

Reading it again it sounds like she would have autoconverted at some point anyway, even if dy hadn't died, her dragon dying just made it happen earlier. Another 2 for one deal for the wolves 😡

 

[WildZoo]

N1 - MJ
N2 - Kam
N3 - WZ
N4 - guis
N5 - MJ; night cancelled
N6 - MJ

Also, soz, but can someone post the Telgar tithe nights again. Not sure who posted the first time. There are not very many who could be the ability thief in my notes, and I am doing my best to work it out. Course, if anyone lied, it is all for naught, but what the hell, right? haha

 

[DVMDream]

It was all but stated outright in the writeup.

Sounds like part of her role to be an auto convert.

Promo are you trying to suggest that will happen to anyone who loses their dragon? Because that's a very unbalanced game. I find it odd your attempting to use that to cast some doubt onto me, even attempting the, well maybe chaos thing is odd. I was a late add to the game, you don't add in a chaos willy nilly like that. And chaos have multiple abilities, I have one, one time use, which I've stated from early on.

 

[DVMDream]

I'm sticking with my promo lynch, I'm thinking he could have rescinded his tithe in rulatha.

 

[LetItSnow]

Who is injured right now? I may be able to help. I can't keep track.

I might be. I was never told that I was until all of the sudden last night I couldn't perform my routine nightly action because of "your injury."

Not sure if they forgot to tell me I was injured, or made a mistake and thought I was when I wasn't. Waiting to hear back.

 

[Trilt]

Officialish Lynch Tally
RM () -
Promo (1) - DVMD
PBC (1) - Lupin
Vethed (5) - Kam, Guis, WZ, LIS, Abney

7/16 accounted for, lynch deadline 9pm CST/10pm EST.

 

[vetmedhead]

Come back to a bandwagon, yay.

I'm on mobile, so bear with me here.

My thoughts: IF the ability thief is a villager or chaos (not sure if this is common historically or not) and the ability thief is able to use the stolen ability the night after it is taken, then it's possible that VMH had her ability stolen on N3 and then used on N4. N4 was the only night we had 2 kills.

IF the ability thief is a wolf, or if the abilities are able to be used the night they are taken (which seems unlikely to me), then I have nothing. I think there is something to be learned by the double kill on N4 and no other night.

Lynch VMH

First of all, a kill ability isn't some inherent thing to one wolf, it's something the wolf pack distributes amongst themselves (others have mentioned that wolf packs pick a person to do the kills). It's absurd that someone could steal an ability that is associated with an affiliation and not a specific role.

I also want to add that Dy died the night before the two kill night - what if the extra kill was just some kind of a one time use thing that the wolves got when Gwen was converted?

As for people vouching for me or not, consider that of my original hold, three are dead (Dy, BBC, STL), one was a wolf (Gwen), and one doesn't post much on thread or in hold PM (FFM). I've also never tithed my ability because, as I've stated on thread before, I don't trust sending out an ability to people I don't know or necessarily trust. I'm not surprised they wouldn't vouch for me because I wouldn't necessarily vouch for them either. I know what I've been told but it's WW and just because I can talk to five people at once instead of thirty doesn't mean a PM is a safe place to spread information around.

 

[vetmedhead]

Well, that's part of it, nothing that says to me that she's doing much wolf hunting or putting much individual thought into the game. From day 1 (prior to this post were a lot of source material questions)

Jumps on the html wagon. This was made in the last hour of lynch when she had been posting on and off throughout the day. Sure, it's day 1, but she did play in dy's basics game and I'm a little more critical of players who played that game and still fall back on the usual methods.


I mentioned this post before and I think she responded but I still feel like it's reaching. AM has never been a super active player, and she frequently drops of the radar until there's a lynch wagon on her and she has to defend herself. Again, she's that crucial third vote on what quickly becomes a bandwagon. Now, this kind of depends on what AM turns out to be so I could be totally wrong on that account.

She was also late-ish on the Gwen vote, right on the middle of the bandwagon I think.

I know this stuff is pretty thin but I don't have anything better at the moment and I'm not seeing strong arguments on anyone, nor has anyone spoken up and said they have reason to believe she's a villager.

As for D1: almost everyone voted in the last two hours of that lynch cycle. I was the third person to vote for html per the lynch tally and did it based on information in the thread that suggested the ability thief was in that hold. Hardly a thoughtless vote even if I was jokingly lynching the man before I voted it.

I also explained my AM vote ad nauseum, and I'll add at this point that I don't know if we'll find anything there (notice I haven't voted for her again).

As for the Gwen vote, my vote for her was also the first time I had even checked in to the thread all day. I just think your reasoning is a bit thin here and I think there are probably more suspicious players afoot who are sliding under the radar.

 

[guisantes]

Honestly...vmh's defense satisfies me and she made a good point about the wolf kill ability. I'm willing to look somewhere else for now.

Unlynch vmh

 

[WildZoo]

As for D1: almost everyone voted in the last two hours of that lynch cycle. I was the third person to vote for html per the lynch tally and did it based on information in the thread that suggested the ability thief was in that hold. Hardly a thoughtless vote even if I was jokingly lynching the man before I voted it.

I also explained my AM vote ad nauseum, and I'll add at this point that I don't know if we'll find anything there (notice I haven't voted for her again).

As for the Gwen vote, my vote for her was also the first time I had even checked in to the thread all day. I just think your reasoning is a bit thin here and I think there are probably more suspicious players afoot who are sliding under the radar.

I said myself that my reasoning is thin, and my vote is more from feelings and process of elimination.
If you have more suspicious players in mind do tell!

 

[Abnerrs]

Fack

Unlynch vmh

 

[Abnerrs]

Honestly...vmh's defense satisfies me and she made a good point about the wolf kill ability. I'm willing to look somewhere else for now.

Unlynch vmh

Lawl

 

[guisantes]

Lawl

"Satisfies"

 

[Trilt]

Officialish Lynch Tally
RM () -
Promo (1) - DVMD
PBC (1) - Lupin
Vethed (3) - Kam, WZ, LIS

5/16 accounted for, lynch deadline 9pm CST/10pm EST.

 

[WildZoo]

Keeping my vote where it is for the moment but I'm going to look into PBC since lupin brought her up today. I'm not prepared to vote for promo at all right now though I do understand some of DVMD's concerns.

 

[vetmedhead]

I said myself that my reasoning is thin, and my vote is more from feelings and process of elimination.
If you have more suspicious players in mind do tell!

For right now I'm most suspicious of the people in Tillek hold. For me my current top two are PBC and Deva.

 

[vetmedhead]

Keeping my vote where it is for the moment but I'm going to look into PBC since lupin brought her up today. I'm not prepared to vote for promo at all right now though I do understand some of DVMD's concerns.

I agree with not voting for promo, he just feels very much like an upset villager to me right now.

 

[WildZoo]

I do still wonder about his hands down endorsement of deva as a villager but I guess we all have our feels

 

[Abnerrs]

Keeping my vote where it is for the moment but I'm going to look into PBC since lupin brought her up today. I'm not prepared to vote for promo at all right now though I do understand some of DVMD's concerns.

That's the other person I was thinking of too. I can't get a read on promo because the play is so aggressive and I've never played with him (?) before. But I think he's (?) somewhat vouched for?

 

[vetmedhead]

That's the other person I was thinking of too. I can't get a read on promo because the play is so aggressive and I've never played with him (?) before. But I think he's (?) somewhat vouched for?

For me it's just the things he's been talking about. It seems like he receives tithes and that he was planning to rez a healer. A wolf could potentially do both of those things as well, but I also doubt they'd have a mini meltdown on thread about it. To me it would be more wolfy if he quietly sunk into the background after his plans were foiled since wolves usually try to not make a big stink about anything.

 

[Abnerrs]

For me it's just the things he's been talking about. It seems like he receives tithes and that he was planning to rez a healer. A wolf could potentially do both of those things as well, but I also doubt they'd have a mini meltdown on thread about it. To me it would be more wolfy if he quietly sunk into the background after his plans were foiled since wolves usually try to not make a big stink about anything.

True...

 

[WildZoo]

Quick reading of PBC's posts revealed she's been trying to get AM lynch for what seem like forever, lmost sonce the beginning of the game (reminds me of me with Jilary last game...). Like every day there's a new reason to lynch her. I would expect a wolf to switch up tactics when the lynch isn't going anywhere. So a little bit of tunnel vision but that to me is more villager than wolfy. Will go deeper in my reading though.

 

[Abnerrs]

Quick reading of PBC's posts revealed she's been trying to get AM lynch for what seem like forever, lmost sonce the beginning of the game (reminds me of me with Jilary last game...). Like every day there's a new reason to lynch her. I would expect a wolf to switch up tactics when the lynch isn't going anywhere. So a little bit of tunnel vision but that to me is more villager than wolfy. Will go deeper in my reading though.

To be fair I had her on my radar for a long time

 

[DVMDream]

For me it's just the things he's been talking about. It seems like he receives tithes and that he was planning to rez a healer. A wolf could potentially do both of those things as well, but I also doubt they'd have a mini meltdown on thread about it. To me it would be more wolfy if he quietly sunk into the background after his plans were foiled since wolves usually try to not make a big stink about anything.

I've made a big stink about things as a wolf and as a villager, just depends on what it is and what else is going on. I'm keeping my promo lynch because he seems to be flying under the suspicious radar without (from what I can tell) any verified indication he is a villager.

 

[WildZoo]

To be fair I had her on my radar for a long time

PBC or AM?

 

[Abnerrs]

PBC or AM?

AM

But I left that line of thinking a while because I've heard AM is most likely villager.

I was only pointing out that I was gunning for AM for a bit

 

[PrincessButterCup]

People keep saying AM reads villager and I get she claimed something important, but she keeps throwing up red flags for me. Maybe I do have tunnel vision.

Okay, okay, if no one else feels what I'm feeling I'll look elsewhere. When AM turns up red I get the last laugh, y'all.




I'm injured! Who was peddling cures?

 

[Abnerrs]

People keep saying AM reads villager and I get she claimed something important, but she keeps throwing up red flags for me. Maybe I do have tunnel vision.

Okay, okay, if no one else feels what I'm feeling I'll look elsewhere. When AM turns up red I get the last laugh, y'all.




I'm injured! Who was peddling cures?

Ffm

 

[Promethean]

Anyone have anything solid or solid-ish on STB? I'm reluctant to lynch her if she's village, but if RM is getting vouched for, she's my next most likely to have withdrawn her tithe in Ruatha.

For now, lynch VMH

So, Filly tithed one night. If your theory of how tithes vs Thread works, then maybe she rescinded. Other than that, I haven't seen a lot of activity in Hold thread or here in main.

I'll go it, to see what comes of it.

lynch @Filly Bay

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unrelated, I've been without my beloved car for a month now, while parts had to be ordered for her from Portland, Sweden, and wherever else. Just got her back. It is like having the world set back on its axis, after having entirely off course. I never wanted to be one of those guys crazy about his car, but I missed my baby.

 

[Abnerrs]

Fyi, my hand is starting to swell from an ant bite on my wrist. I'm going to student health.

 

[WildZoo]

I really feel like unless people are lying about their injuries (which is totally possible) the whole untithed nights = number of hold members injured by thread theory might have been mucked up by now, what with deva and potentially LIS finding out they were injured after the fact.

 

[Promethean]

Sounds like part of her role to be an auto convert.

Promo are you trying to suggest that will happen to anyone who loses their dragon? Because that's a very unbalanced game. I find it odd your attempting to use that to cast some doubt onto me, even attempting the, well maybe chaos thing is odd. I was a late add to the game, you don't add in a chaos willy nilly like that. And chaos have multiple abilities, I have one, one time use, which I've stated from early on.

I missed that you were a late add.

I'm not saying that I know what the mechanics are, but that, like everyone else, I'm trying to puzzle them out.

I'm trying to be fair minded. Even while I'm peeved at you and asking questions about you, I also mention that there are things about your role's story that are redeeming. It sounds like he was an over all decent mensch. Yes, I am basing a lot on an assumption that severing the Dragon / Rider bond causes very bad things to happen.

I don't mind if you vote for me. If it gets traction, I'll defend more heartily. I think it is clear to most that I'm village. Our little spat is really the biggest reason either of us has for voting for the other. I was planning not to actually go there unless others had similar thoughts because I'm trying not to be guided by irrelevant emotions.

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I wonder if the undiscovered injuries were mod design or mod error?

 

[Promethean]

I wonder if the undiscovered injuries were mod design or mod error?

Mods make errors?

 

[PrincessButterCup]

Mods make errors?

Shh. I was testing Trilt's new found smiting powers.

 

[Trilt]

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Mods make errors?

truly, in many things:

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[Trilt]

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actually let's go with this one:

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[Devastating]

thread scored last night or in the mass attacks from N4?

From the first thread fall of N4

 

[Mad Jack]

Lynch VMH

 

[Lupin21]

hrm. I don't understand why LIS would have been injured from thread fall N4 because our hold tithed every night. Unless it was for some reason mod induced like kata.

 

[ResoluteMike]

Lynch PBC