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Aprilthearab said:
Ugh.

Role reveal: I'm Robin Hood, a village commoner who can steal and send items. Sorry to disappoint with my "bad" role DocE. Steal from the rich and redistribute to the poor. And before SAR or Samac jump on me, no I did not steal the teapot, and I don't know who did. I wasn't capable of doing any night actions N0 and I did not have any night actions done onto me. I believe the tinfoil is correct that the other thief is a wolf who is the Sheriff and likely is a person within our location. One village thief and one wolf thief.

Probs gonna get yeeted anyway at this rate.
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supershorty said:
Do we know that? I didn't see anything in the D1 write up that indicated whether she did/didn't.
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See above.
 
WildZoo said:
I feel like @The_Breadmann is far underperforming his village meta and need him to get a bit more engaged in the game to be able to get a read. Also need to hear more from @SportPonies at some point to even attempt there, though I haven't minded her contributions so far. Would like to hear more from @Dinashadow today as well.
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I am working on catching up. Should be fully caught up today
 
Animal Midwife said:
Which players were those and to where?
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Actually, scratch that. I had a spreadsheet mistake. Sorry.

There were 3 moves - MsP from Cornwall to Yorkshire/The North, sunshine from London to Cornwall, and me from Parts Unknown to Cornwall.
 
supershorty said:
Do we know that? I didn't see anything in the D1 write up that indicated whether she did/didn't.
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She said she wasn't able to act on n0
 
To whomever this may concern (you know yourself),

It's a little too late for all that

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Ms Procrastinator said:
To whomever this may concern (you know yourself),

It's a little too late for all that

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Ms Procrastinator said:
Yeet bob Why aren't you answering my questions?
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I’m sorry, can you clarify this? Are you saying you know for certain that Bob is a wolf, and specifically the Cheshire Cat? Also if that’s not the case maybe give him more than 1/2 an hour to get back to you?

@samac I noticed you heart eyes reacted MsP’s post here. Do you have thoughts about this you’d care to share with the thread?
 
Zenge142 said:
I’m sorry, can you clarify this? Are you saying you know for certain that Bob is a wolf, and specifically the Cheshire Cat? Also if that’s not the case maybe give him more than 1/2 an hour to get back to you?

@samac I noticed you heart eyes reacted MsP’s post here. Do you have thoughts about this you’d care to share with the thread?
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I feel like this can just play out for now without outside interactions.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’m sorry, can you clarify this? Are you saying you know for certain that Bob is a wolf, and specifically the Cheshire Cat? Also if that’s not the case maybe give him more than 1/2 an hour to get back to you?

@samac I noticed you heart eyes reacted MsP’s post here. Do you have thoughts about this you’d care to share with the thread?
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I have no insider knowledge but heart eyed her because it seemed she did and had caught a wolf. I can say Bob has been on since being called out.
 
Crayola227 said:
This reads a little like her speed game wolf attempts to shade people
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I said it in bioshock and I'll say it again here, it seems like I have a talent for village reading wolves D1 and jumping in their pockets. I'm trying to only move people into village/leans if I'm real confident about them to prevent this from happening for a third time. No shade, I thought you sounded like yourself but I cant just ignore things that ping me before I move people into village lean.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’m sorry, can you clarify this? Are you saying you know for certain that Bob is a wolf, and specifically the Cheshire Cat? Also if that’s not the case maybe give him more than 1/2 an hour to get back to you?

@samac I noticed you heart eyes reacted MsP’s post here. Do you have thoughts about this you’d care to share with the thread?
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Like samac says, he's been on and for quite a while too. I'll give him an hour or two though.
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
Hey @BobLoblaw78 your vote for me seems to be for lack of activity (I'm not the only one so I'm gonna need more from you) and your now recanted statement that I'm due for wolfing since I've never done it before (weird yeet reason). Who else pings you as sus?
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Sorry, I overlooked this. I think it was the same time I made major noob mistake of talking when I had not looked at most recent post (leaves and checks most recent post to make sure I don't make same mistake). Okay. Don't want smited again.

I see you suspect me which is fine, but that is a hard reach since you don't know how I play. And my noobness forces me to make mistakes that you would see as wolfish. Those should probably be considered NAI, but by all means do you due diligence.

You still worry me. Specifically with you saying that I recanted when it is obvious where I got the impression you had not been a wolf. You make wolfreads on someone that is making noob mistakes strikes me as wolfish. I can see taking it personal, but I would've laughed it off as "what an idiot" not "he's a wolf" (but I am less worried by you after what others said. I stuck with you as yeet vote b/c I don't like to change votes w/o a good reason. And frankly I am having difficulty sorting all of this out as we go)

DocE as I have always said has in your face style but too much so to think wolf.

AM has similar active style but just asks probing questions. I was thinking inquisitive villager but... She seemed to take things personal and make bad arguments. These arguments struck me as wolfish. I will try to gather the quotes that made me think this. One was her arguing against a wolf in the north pretty hard- when in all likelyhood there is one there and it would make sense. I get not yeeting everyone there, but it seemed overly defensive to the point I thought it was a threat. She usually post subtle, coy questions but was more reactionary with that argument.

I will try to put other thoughts down when I get time. I worry about letting wolves know who are villagers (and maybe vice versa- WIFOM). I think I could more easily prove some points but think they may be detrimental to give too much away. Hence the fun of the game. What to do?
 
samac said:
I was going to change my vote off AM because I think we’re getting similar vibes but TE literally told me if she died to yeet AM.
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Well, Enigma herself says she has an inherent bias to wolfread me even when I'm village because it's "better to be wrong that way".
 
samac said:
Also can we all just appreciate SAR for a minute as she actively said **** it and ran for PM even as a Royal.
10/10 Sar :laugh:
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The fact that I didn't pick up on it until after the fact is just...I don't even know what to say for myself
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
Sorry, I overlooked this. I think it was the same time I made major noob mistake of talking when I had not looked at most recent post (leaves and checks most recent post to make sure I don't make same mistake). Okay. Don't want smited again.

I see you suspect me which is fine, but that is a hard reach since you don't know how I play. And my noobness forces me to make mistakes that you would see as wolfish. Those should probably be considered NAI, but by all means do you due diligence.

You still worry me. Specifically with you saying that I recanted when it is obvious where I got the impression you had not been a wolf. You make wolfreads on someone that is making noob mistakes strikes me as wolfish. I can see taking it personal, but I would've laughed it off as "what an idiot" not "he's a wolf" (but I am less worried by you after what others said. I stuck with you as yeet vote b/c I don't like to change votes w/o a good reason. And frankly I am having difficulty sorting all of this out as we go)

DocE as I have always said has in your face style but too much so to think wolf.

AM has similar active style but just asks probing questions. I was thinking inquisitive villager but... She seemed to take things personal and make bad arguments. These arguments struck me as wolfish. I will try to gather the quotes that made me think this. One was her arguing against a wolf in the north pretty hard- when in all likelyhood there is one there and it would make sense. I get not yeeting everyone there, but it seemed overly defensive to the point I thought it was a threat. She usually post subtle, coy questions but was more reactionary with that argument.

I will try to put other thoughts down when I get time. I worry about letting wolves know who are villagers (and maybe vice versa- WIFOM). I think I could more easily prove some points but think they may be detrimental to give too much away. Hence the fun of the game. What to do?
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answer my other questions
 
samac said:
That response pinged me, because the obvious reason is he is an antagonist and that’s readily available knowledge so asking about why he would be a wolf would be weird. Just keep an eye out.
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You posted a picture of the cartoon character as a response to my question and earlier (I think you) said he was a wolf in the cartoon. And I thought it was flimsy reasoning to be so sure that the sheriff is a wolf. One because roles are not a very good indication of affiliation and two the sheriff might not have been his wolf cartoon character. I did see later SAR mentioned that it was someone "fat and furry" which negates the second point, but my first point still stands.

It's mod dependent whether or not antagonist roles/villains are made wolves in the game. I've been burned by using roles as a means of predicting affiliation before. I'm not super interested in yeeting someone based on a mechanics theory alone without other evidence that proves they're wolfy.

Which brings up another question I wanted to ask you. You recently wolfed with AM in ggoats. Do you think her play so far fits with her wolf meta? I have her in my village leans right now. Finn is in my neutral pile, but I'm interested in what her take on this will be.
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
Does anyone on thread seem off to you? It doesn't even have to be on thread, it could be in PMs. PMs are a great way for people to fish for roles, especially out of new players. Has anybody you've been PMing seemed super fishy like they were trying to get info out of you?
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@BobLoblaw78
 
Dinashadow said:
You posted a picture of the cartoon character as a response to my question and earlier (I think you) said he was a wolf in the cartoon. And I thought it was flimsy reasoning to be so sure that the sheriff is a wolf. One because roles are not a very good indication of affiliation and two the sheriff might not have been his wolf cartoon character. I did see later SAR mentioned that it was someone "fat and furry" which negates the second point, but my first point still stands.

It's mod dependent whether or not antagonist roles/villains are made wolves in the game. I've been burned by using roles as a means of predicting affiliation before. I'm not super interested in yeeting someone based on a mechanics theory alone without other evidence that proves they're wolfy.

Which brings up another question I wanted to ask you. You recently wolfed with AM in ggoats. Do you think her play so far fits with her wolf meta? I have her in my village leans right now. Finn is in my neutral pile, but I'm interested in what her take on this will be.
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At first it seemed like totally opposite her wolf Meta from ggoats, which I thought would be intentional. She almost got yeeted for her over the top arrogance and sharp tongue, but she surprised me by being softer. Like softer than I’ve ever seen her be to me and called that out as sus.

i will say I’m pretty sure the sherrif of Nottingham is a wolf given we flipped a village thief that didn’t take it. It leaves a wolfy counterpart.
 
samac said:
I have no insider knowledge but heart eyed her because it seemed she did and had caught a wolf. I can say Bob has been on since being called out.
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I can check latest message but not have enough time to respond in full. I still have like 5 pages to catch up on. And when someone says all the kills but I have no idea what they are talking about it is killing me not knowing. But here I am still trying to reply
 
samac said:
I was going to change my vote off AM because I think we’re getting similar vibes but TE literally told me if she died to yeet AM.
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Except that it's not like she knew 100% AM's affiliation so why would you go against what seems like your own read?
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
I see you suspect me which is fine, but that is a hard reach since you don't know how I play. And my noobness forces me to make mistakes that you would see as wolfish. Those should probably be considered NAI, but by all means do you due diligence.
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the wording on this bothers me
BobLoblaw78 said:
One was her arguing against a wolf in the north pretty hard- when in all likelyhood there is one there and it would make sense.
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#doubt
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
answer my other questions
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Okay. Help me out. What other questions?

I thought I answered all your questions....who else pings you as sus? Answered it.

The only other question is am I new or new, new? I am new, new. Asked my kids what WW was b/c before two weeks ago, I thought it was wonderwoman. That told me among us but deeper. Or like Mafia. That didn't help at all.
 
genny said:
Why AM specifically?
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Unfortunately I don’t have details past she thought her suspicious. And I guess she always finds her suspicious and told me that if she dies tonight to yeet AM. I was completely covering myself in tinfoil at that point and have so many PMs I just didn’t ask for more details and I should have.
Barkley13 said:
Except that it's not like she knew 100% AM's affiliation so why would you go against what seems like your own read?
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Honestly I’m conflicted on AM, one thing I’ve noted is her post count is high this game and I have trusted PM partners telling me she’s within her village Meta. I like her support of MsP right now and I get MsP’s points against Bob.
I’m just conflicted on AM. Per usual.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
I will try to put other thoughts down when I get time. I worry about letting wolves know who are villagers (and maybe vice versa- WIFOM). I think I could more easily prove some points but think they may be detrimental to give too much away. Hence the fun of the game. What to do?
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What information do you think people should be putting on the thread, if you’re worried about identifying villagers but also concerned about identifying wolves?
 
Can I get @samac (I believe) to re-confirm that you or someone who could talk to you LITERALLY was told by the mod (or so they claim) that an item was stolen by a furry creature with a small crown. Please try to find the exact language and confirm this is for real.

Because we have not addressed how completely wild that claim is. I'm not even discounting it yet. But that can't go without being better analyzed.
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
@BobLoblaw78
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Ms Procrastinator said:
Does anyone on thread seem off to you? It doesn't even have to be on thread, it could be in PMs. PMs are a great way for people to fish for roles, especially out of new players. Has anybody you've been PMing seemed super fishy like they were trying to get info out of you?
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I told you who I think. At least the main ones.

I have not PM'd anyone, nor has anyone PM'd me. I figured not knowing, I had more to lose then gain by PM'ing someone and trusting them.
 
DocEspana said:
Can I get @samac (I believe) to re-confirm that you or someone who could talk to you LITERALLY was told by the mod (or so they claim) that an item was stolen by a furry creature with a small crown. Please try to find the exact language and confirm this is for real.

Because we have not addressed how completely wild that claim is. I'm not even discounting it yet. But that can't go without being better analyzed.
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SAR confirmed the description and April confirmed it wasn’t her.
 
genny said:
A fat furry creature in a funny hat threw me in jail last night, which kind of sounds like the sheriff of Nottingham... shook me down for coins first too. But if it is, does that mean a villager tried to kill me?
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OH SO ITS NOT JUST A THIEF.
Is it a wolf JOAT?

but HA!
Thanks Genny.
 
DocEspana said:
Can I get @samac (I believe) to re-confirm that you or someone who could talk to you LITERALLY was told by the mod (or so they claim) that an item was stolen by a furry creature with a small crown. Please try to find the exact language and confirm this is for real.

Because we have not addressed how completely wild that claim is. I'm not even discounting it yet. But that can't go without being better analyzed.
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SAR said those exact words
 
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