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[Crayola227]

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It's why my criteria for voting someone always follows this golden rule.

#1 Only elect someone I feel I can read decently well.

So what do you think of who's on the board, and who do you think should be elected? Besides whoever you've voted if you've voted?

 

[genny]

This made me think "oh cool village genny probably" then I was like, "Unless she's trying to pocket the noob PM by PMs"

i considered voting for you, since you're in my group, but i can't read you at all

 

[Animal Midwife]

So what do you think of who's on the board, and who do you think should be elected? Besides whoever you've voted if you've voted?

I don't claim to be able to read any of the others currently on the board with a greater than 70% accuracy.

People should just go with whoever they'll be able to tell exact affiliation for quickest without the assistance of any PRs.

 

[samac]

T
This feels sorta overreactive for me pointing out possible issues in your posts. How is it "so much shade" to point out how well you wolfed your first (or one of few) wolf out? That's a fact. And it makes you even more dangerous for future wolf outs you started out so high on the curve. Feels weird you're downplaying that excellence.

Not sure how I'm starting a tunnel on you when I'm ripping apart a lot of players' posts. But maybe now the tunnel begins because of this weird reactivity.

And the big defense for Shorty feels weird too, like white knighting or chainsaw defense.

Honestly I think I’m a little hypersensitive to you. You went down swinging at me last game and I was quite frankly annoyed about it and it felt like it was immediately starting back this game.

I appreciate you calling me an excellent wolf I guess? I’m not downplaying anything, i said I wolfed well once. Glad that’ll be held over my village play for the rest of time, I guess.

there’s no defense of shorty going on. There’s nothing to defend her on. I don’t know why were downplaying that her calling out the post is what took you down in the end wasn’t good. I thought it was great and I give her real props for that.

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah, SAR is like the only person I can still read consistently

 

[alissa14]

There was a quote here from alley agreeing that while she likes mechanic talk it’s unproductive at this point. She said it on thread right after the thought popped in my head. The quote messed up on mobile and I don’t feel like fixing it. Just noting I agreed

This is weird. Overly concerned with one's own optics, subtle manipulation to get someone not even on your back off it

Mostly a joke but okay...

Gonna vote DocE.

#### elect DocE ####

If he's a wolf the added pressure on him will be good. If he's villager the added focus and a PR in his hands will probably be a good thing. Win win. Plus I think he deserves the extra fun for coming out of retirement to play.

I can honestly get behind this logic. I’ve never played with DocE so it’ll make things interesting.

Since this doesn’t seem to be going anywhere

Unelect Shorty

Elect SAR

She’s a good mod so she’ll probably make for a good PM.

I think this reasoning for voting for SAR is worse than mine

 

[alissa14]

Unelect SAR
Elect el doctor de España (DocE)

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think this reasoning for voting for SAR is worse than mine

How does it make you feel about him?

 

[samac]

I don’t like the thought of an unknown to most of us being PM.
unelect Samac
Elect Sar

 

[supershorty]

I really don't understand the logic behind the DocE votes (other than his own vote). It's basically "this is a bad idea but might be funny for the lulz" or saying that the person in the PM spot will be under extra scrutiny, so if they're a wolf, that's not a bad thing. I understand that second argument, but at the same time, whoever ends up as PM ends up with additional abilities, per Pippy, and so it seems to me like that's not a position we want to throw someone into if it's early and they're already suspected of lying or WIFOM. Literally none of the support he's gotten has been "he'd be great in this role!" ...

Spoiler: Quotes from the people voting for him

unelect shorty
elect docE

it's definitely a bad idea to elect DocE. but it would also be interesting, and I can't resist that.

There is so much wrong with this post I just don't even. But my goal was to get through a page before starting my errands. I will pick this back up.

This was in response to DocE's nominating himself.

I’m kind of feeling like voting someone with experience, so they’ll presumably be an effective PM if their intentions are pure... and on whom village would especially benefit from extra scrutiny, in case they’re wolfing. I also feel better voting for someone who is inviting the scrutiny of elected office, since the only game I’ve played with mayors, wolves desperately wanted to avoid it (I know that’s not universal but I just feel like wanting to avoid it is more common).

elect DocE

This reads like all lies. And I always assume humility, coming from you, is false.

I do agree keeping DocE around as long as we safely can since he's just out of a lengthy retirement.

Although I thought you said in sign ups runescape wasn't that long ago....?

Gonna vote DocE.

#### elect DocE ####

If he's a wolf the added pressure on him will be good. If he's villager the added focus and a PR in his hands will probably be a good thing. Win win. Plus I think he deserves the extra fun for coming out of retirement to play.

N
Not sure. We'll see. I'm maybe trusting our village PRs to make sure it isn't a mistake.

This was in response to me.

too late, i already switched my vote to the devil's brother.

I can honestly get behind this logic. I’ve never played with DocE so it’ll make things interesting.

 

[sunshinefl]

Why? This feels wolfy. You want Mayor to go to a quiter player.

EDIT : on request of mod. I meant quieter.
Quiter though isn't a scrabble word, and *might* mean quitter or someone dead, neither of which I meant to say.

Ms. P has been pretty active lately and gets a bad rap. If she wants to be more involved I figured encourage her do it. Plus I usually read her pretty well.

Concern about communication networks this early in game noted.

Ma’am I have a freakin PM with Alley already, started by Alley. I could have just asked her there. But I wanted to see who would answer first and how.

I'm saying that I'm surprised by sunshine's vote for MsP, didn't expect that from her, and it feels wolfy, and I think it's because wolves might want the PM role to go to someone on the quieter side.

Explained as above.

because i was going to try to get shorty elected so the prime minister would be in my group. but shorty doesn't want it.

So you want the prime minister to be in your group so you can open a PM with them? 🤔

Yeah, SAR is like the only person I can still read consistently

SAR is the hardest person for me to read, by far. So I would be against SAR as PM.

 

[supershorty]

Unelect samac
Elect SAR

because the DocE vote feels off to me.

 

[sunshinefl]

Unelect samac
Elect SAR

because the DocE vote feels off to me.

I agree he’s probably a weird choice that seems to be mostly a joke, but SAR?

 

[WildZoo]

SAR is the hardest person for me to read, by far. So I would be against SAR as PM.

Well, no one is saying you have to vote for her. Was just stating why I am.

Also, has SAR even been a wolf since you started playing? How is she the hardest person for you to read?

 

[PippyPony]

Prime Minister Tally

SAR - Dubz, SAR, April, AM, vetmedhead, zenge, samac, supershorty
Ms P - Ms P, sunshine, barkley
Samac - mkg323, Telemarketing
Shorty - dina
DocE - DocE, genny, viscernable, crayola, alissa
capri1722 - capri1722

 

[Crayola227]

Honestly I think I’m a little hypersensitive to you. You went down swinging at me last game and I was quite frankly annoyed about it and it felt like it was immediately starting back this game.

I appreciate you calling me an excellent wolf I guess? I’m not downplaying anything, i said I wolfed well once. Glad that’ll be held over my village play for the rest of time, I guess.

there’s no defense of shorty going on. There’s nothing to defend her on. I don’t know why were downplaying that her calling out the post is what took you down in the end wasn’t good. I thought it was great and I give her real props for that.

Calling out which post?

I'm a sore loser so no one is likely to get much credit from me for anything they do in a game I wolf and lose. Thems the breaks.

 

[Crayola227]

What does this mean? I agree that it feels a little weird and it's really overstating my contributions to the Bioshock outcome.

Tarhalindur Standard Tells

wiki.mafiascum.net

 

[SARdoghandler]

Yeah, SAR is like the only person I can still read consistently

#blessed

 

[Crayola227]

W

Since this doesn’t seem to be going anywhere

Unelect Shorty

Elect SAR

She’s a good mod so she’ll probably make for a good PM.

Why do you feel the need to be on a PM vote "going somewhere?"

 

[sunshinefl]

Well, no one is saying you have to vote for her. Was just stating why I am.

Right but since I’m not the one and only vote I am sharing my response.

Also, has SAR even been a wolf since you started playing? How is she the hardest person for you to read?

I have no idea but I know I’ve frequently thought she was when she wasn’t. Or thought she was 3P with something extra and she was vanillager. Feel free to look back at games we’ve both been in and I’ve repeatedly struggled with her.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I agree he’s probably a weird choice that seems to be mostly a joke, but SAR?

But why not SAR?

I find it interesting that there seems to be some real anti-SAR sentiment here against my prime ministerial campaign. Don't know what to make of it yet, but keeping track

 

[SARdoghandler]

I have no idea but I know I’ve frequently thought she was when she wasn’t. Or thought she was 3P with something extra and she was vanillager. Feel free to look back at games we’ve both been in and I’ve repeatedly struggled with her.

Consider... when not reading me village... that perhaps I am?

 

[sunshinefl]

But why not SAR?

I find it interesting that there seems to be some real anti-SAR sentiment here against my prime ministerial campaign. Don't know what to make of it yet, but keeping track

I’ve said why. Because I am historically bad at reading you, your affiliations, and your abilities.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh yeah, that reminds me, please nobody make PR reads (especially specific ones) on people because it only helps wolves. Point out what about their posts is making you village read them instead of mechanics.

 

[Crayola227]

I really don't understand the logic behind the DocE votes (other than his own vote). It's basically "this is a bad idea but might be funny for the lulz" or saying that the person in the PM spot will be under extra scrutiny, so if they're a wolf, that's not a bad thing. I understand that second argument, but at the same time, whoever ends up as PM ends up with additional abilities, per Pippy, and so it seems to me like that's not a position we want to throw someone into if it's early and they're already suspected of lying or WIFOM. Literally none of the support he's gotten has been "he'd be great in this role!" ...

Spoiler: Quotes from the people voting for him

This was in response to DocE's nominating himself.







This was in response to me.

This is overstating, I explicitly said there was an advantage to DocE having it if he is village. He's one of the better villagers and user of a PR.

One reason I'm not pushing myself or some others for mayor is because they are often NK'ed early if village. DocE being essentially a policy yeet has the advantage of being naturally sketchy enough the wolves may not kill him. Or if they do, we likely weren't taking him to endgame anyway.

There's a ton of upside to DocE being PM, unless he's a wolf, but even then I argue this may actually harm him if wolf.

 

[Crayola227]

Ms. P has been pretty active lately and gets a bad rap. If she wants to be more involved I figured encourage her do it. Plus I usually read her pretty well.

Ma’am I have a freakin PM with Alley already, started by Alley. I could have just asked her there. But I wanted to see who would answer first and how.

Explained as above.

So you want the prime minister to be in your group so you can open a PM with them? 🤔

SAR is the hardest person for me to read, by far. So I would be against SAR as PM.

I agree with you about SAR.

 

[Crayola227]

I agree he’s probably a weird choice that seems to be mostly a joke, but SAR?

I'm not joking and I'm not convinced others who voted there are

 

[Crayola227]

But why not SAR?

I find it interesting that there seems to be some real anti-SAR sentiment here against my prime ministerial campaign. Don't know what to make of it yet, but keeping track

Personally against it because I find you hard to read and sometimes your game involvement can be hit or miss.

 

[genny]

But why not SAR?

I find it interesting that there seems to be some real anti-SAR sentiment here against my prime ministerial campaign. Don't know what to make of it yet, but keeping track

i think it's your avatar. doesn't inspire confidence.

 

[PippyPony]

@The_Breadmann
@LetItSnow
@Stagg737
@BobLoblaw78
@SportPonies
@Cyndia​

 

[SportPonies]

@The_Breadmann
@LetItSnow
@Stagg737
@BobLoblaw78
@SportPonies
@Cyndia​

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Bread and I are playing fire emblem, leave us alone

 

[The_Breadmann]

@The_Breadmann
@LetItSnow
@Stagg737
@BobLoblaw78
@SportPonies
@Cyndia​

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Give me a bit, gotta catch up

 

[SportPonies]

AM, don’t tell @supershorty that you gave me an angry react on my first post for the game

 

[SARdoghandler]

Personally against it because I find you hard to read and sometimes your game involvement can be hit or miss.

Game involvement is fair. I have two long weekends in a row here, so will be around more than usual. However, that definitely still won't put me in the top posting brackets.

Finding me hard to read sounds like a you problem

i think it's your avatar. doesn't inspire confidence.

Bur it's a GOAT. Are you saying goats don't inspire your confidence?

 

[supershorty]

This is overstating, I explicitly said there was an advantage to DocE having it if he is village. He's one of the better villagers and user of a PR.

One reason I'm not pushing myself or some others for mayor is because they are often NK'ed early if village. DocE being essentially a policy yeet has the advantage of being naturally sketchy enough the wolves may not kill him. Or if they do, we likely weren't taking him to endgame anyway.

There's a ton of upside to DocE being PM, unless he's a wolf, but even then I argue this may actually harm him if wolf.

Why is he essentially a policy yeet? Because of baseline sketchiness?

 

[The_Breadmann]

Yup.

Elect samac
She was a great mayor in Cartoons.

Think I am going to

vote samac

for the same reason and will likely waffle as I slowly catch up while playing Fire Emblem.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why is he essentially a policy yeet? Because of baseline sketchiness?

It's due to frequent mechanical lying to break games and increase his own chance of winning regardless of affiliation.

 

[sunshinefl]

It's due to frequent mechanical lying to break games and increase his own chance of winning regardless of affiliation.

So, your worst nightmare.

 

[SportPonies]

This is overstating, I explicitly said there was an advantage to DocE having it if he is village. He's one of the better villagers and user of a PR.

One reason I'm not pushing myself or some others for mayor is because they are often NK'ed early if village. DocE being essentially a policy yeet has the advantage of being naturally sketchy enough the wolves may not kill him. Or if they do, we likely weren't taking him to endgame anyway.

There's a ton of upside to DocE being PM, unless he's a wolf, but even then I argue this may actually harm him if wolf.

I have read approximately 2 posts so far. One being this and one being Pippy yelling at me

But I. Why would DocE be a better choice above all others when he hasn’t played in like two years lol

Kay now I’ll go read.

 

[Animal Midwife]

So, your worst nightmare.

Not just mine.

 

[SARdoghandler]

i think it's your avatar. doesn't inspire confidence.

How about this? It was the most confidence-inspiring British person and gif I could think of on short notice.

 

[WildZoo]

How about this? It was the most confidence-inspiring British person and gif I could think of on short notice.

But monarchs can't be the PM

 

[SARdoghandler]

But monarchs can't be the PM

...Dammit. She's still the most confidence-inspiring person! I stand by it!

Besides. No one actually wants me to have a profile picture of a British PM

 

[WildZoo]

...Dammit. She's still the most confidence-inspiring person! I stand by it!

Besides. No one actually wants me to have a profile picture of a British PM

 

[genny]

...Dammit. She's still the most confidence-inspiring person! I stand by it!

Besides. No one actually wants me to have a profile picture of a British PM

I don't trust anyone who owns corgis.

 

[SARdoghandler]

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But does she inspire confidence

I don't trust anyone who owns corgis.

Fair point

 

[WildZoo]

But does she inspire confidence

More of a controversial figure I suppose

 

[genny]

Fair point

I mean, just look at her
Idk why it won’t let me put this in a spoiler

 

[finnickthedog]

Right so, I am home. Kind of was skimming this between appointments so I got the gist.

Gonna jump on the SAR train because I don't trust DocE enough with special abilities and I otherwise have no strong feelings.

elect SAR

 

[Cyndia]

Oh crap, thought this was starting tomorrow. Let me catch up..