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“A rogue”. Could mean something else, but sounds like a thief to me.I feel like I missed something. What makes you say this?
I went back and looked at Apocalypse too just because I wanted to see the comparison, and I don't agree that she really raged compared to what I've seen in other games. I saw a few times where it was clear she was irritated (and one instance of the shouty caps), but even when she was on the chopping block, I didn't get the same kind of sometimes-frantic frustration that I've seen from her as a villager, and that I've seen in this game.Just looked sunny raged in apocolypse. Guess it’s NAI.
Maybe they were "changing" not guarding. Maybe changing from villager to wolf?
Also, it's like ridiculously early for a conversion.At least from a previous conversation I had with Pippy two years ago, she doesn't like putting easy-to-detect conversion hints in writeups. So if something were to happen, it'd probably be more subtle than that.
Disagree with this interpretation.Been wondering about this. SAR makes sense with it being clear she was royal from not-winning the election, then the writeup hinting the queen was the one who broke the initial election. TE and vmh I don’t see a clear reason for. With an alleged 4th kill attempt on genny I think it’s likely at least one isn’t wolf-aligned.
And this one.Does this sound like 7 anti-village parties to anyone else? Or just 1 in each sentence being described with different pejoratives?
Keep up with new stuff mostly catch up no. Been testing Bromethalin products today so been more careful than usual. Just about to wrap up though.@The_Breadmann, have you had a chance to finish catching up?
Bromethalin Bread products??? You monster.Keep up with new stuff mostly catch up no. Been testing Bromethalin products today so been more careful than usual. Just about to wrap up though.
Not to mention, her role is formatted differently in the dead list. I don't think it's anything we can do something about right now, but it's good to keep in mind for future. (edited to clarify that the bolding below is not mine)What's weird is it doesn't say her ability or that she's vanilla
AVALON
@Aprilthearab - Robin Hood, item thief
@SARdoghandler - Lilibet
@TelemarketingEnigma - Margaret Thatcher, 2x executioner
@vetmedhead - William Shakespeare, write up modifier
I had a write up hint and at first I thought meant nothing but once Sar posted about the teapot my wheels got turning and being in robinhood’s land and I started googling about where Robinhood was from and all that jazz. Turned out it was the north. I was pretty sure at that point that characters from Robinhood were around me. I tried to lure Robinhood out on thread, but Sar had realized too the universe around us and that it was fat, furry, and don’t leave off the tiny hat. It’s an important detail.Was there something I missed that made you specifically think the thief was from Robin Hood? I just remember you saying that Robin Hood was your first thought for a notable English thief, which makes sense, but I don’t know how that transfers to the Sheriff based on the thief apparently being wolf-aligned (and I agree it isn’t village, since the writeup on vmh’s death seems to hint that there is an antivillage thief). Couldn’t it be some other fat, furry, antivillage thief?
Is it a rojo if it’s a PM with another player? Thought that was only wolf aligned.This is what I have so far. There are still so many people left it’s overwhelming to follow all the interactions.
Village leans
-Cray- usual sharp tongued / sus everyone self
-AM-usual pushy self, called out weird samac post
-Genny- usual jokey self
-Cyndia-agreeing with posts
-Bob law- seems sincere about not being in PMs, trying to hunt but noob
-Ms P- was reading her village but slightly unsure about the whole bob law PM thing
Neutral
-Shorty-Did seem off but made 1 typical full shorty analysis post
-Samac-weird rojo?, over the top oh no reaction to April
-Sporty- mostly absent but not unusual
-Doc E- was leaning village and no resistance to yeet, tied, but april wagon could have been pushed to save him though
-Finnick- passionate argument for good village play, quiet now
Wolf
-Zenge-Not much besides weird theme posts of nothing, Defending shorty, not as active as normal
-Viscernable- weird last minute unexplained vote on April
-MKG- seems flippant
-Bread- almost completely absent and not making jokes and puns, sheeped samac into April vote
...am I that toxic? Or were my muton chops so amazing they take people's breath away? (Bromethalin interferes with lung function btw)Bromethalin Bread products??? You monster.
I have been busy working to make dough...This is what I have so far. There are still so many people left it’s overwhelming to follow all the interactions.
Village leans
-Cray- usual sharp tongued / sus everyone self
-AM-usual pushy self, called out weird samac post
-Genny- usual jokey self
-Cyndia-agreeing with posts
-Bob law- seems sincere about not being in PMs, trying to hunt but noob
-Ms P- was reading her village but slightly unsure about the whole bob law PM thing
Neutral
-Shorty-Did seem off but made 1 typical full shorty analysis post
-Samac-weird rojo?, over the top oh no reaction to April
-Sporty- mostly absent but not unusual
-Doc E- was leaning village and no resistance to yeet, tied, but april wagon could have been pushed to save him though
-Finnick- passionate argument for good village play, quiet now
Wolf
-Zenge-Not much besides weird theme posts of nothing, Defending shorty, not as active as normal
-Viscernable- weird last minute unexplained vote on April
-MKG- seems flippant
-Bread- almost completely absent and not making jokes and puns, sheeped samac into April vote
Right, which is what it may have been. Hence why it’s noteworthy.Is it a rojo if it’s a PM with another player? Thought that was only wolf aligned.
That was my early note on him. And I don’t delete and start from scratch. I just add.I’ve also thought about Zenge’s lower activity this game but I disagree that he’s only done theme related posted. Why do you say that?
Well if it makes you feel any better I’ll say it again, pretty sure I was seered last nightRight, which is what it may have been. Hence why it’s noteworthy.
That was my early note on him. And I don’t delete and start from scratch. I just add.
You mean the direct Shakespeare quote about the death of Mercutio?“A rogue”. Could mean something else, but sounds like a thief to me.
Well then someone knows.Well if it makes you feel any better I’ll say it again, pretty sure I was seered last night
And I’ll say this just in case it’s a noob, they should keep their mouth shut.Well then someone knows.
Well if it makes you feel any better I’ll say it again, pretty sure I was seered last night
What’s your read on Dubz?
These quotes are pinging me a little bit, like they could be an act.
Also, I understand the reasoning for Dubz voting for April. It makes sense logically. But it was also, in retrospect, a potentially easy thing to jump on as a wolf and make excuses for later. Considering Dubz’s lack of reevaluation of that position as the day went on, I have suspicions.
Early reads are more reliable imo. In my limited experience wolves tend to work really hard to clean up their act once there’s heat on them for their early posts.
Actions are loud if that’s what you’re getting at.Technical point: you're told when someone did that to you? Or are you using other information and inferences to say that.
Gotta reason?yeet zenge
It also bothered me that he was really only replying to cray's post AKA the one person who couldn't respond at the timeBread is also somebody who is on my radar. Since the game started he keeps coming onto thread saying he's catching up, but never posts content. When he did post some stuff yesterday it was stuff it was comments on things posted days before and wasn't really relevant to the current discussion.
I'm finding myself more worried about the late April voters
I think I'm more interested in people who jumped on April later though.
i might be tunneling. or i might be on to something. i'm not sure which one it is yet.Gotta reason?
It's only a rojo if it was meant for pack chat. Sometimes people use it for other types of similar slips, but in that case it should have some explaining details (like when I rojoed on thread Something meant for dead chat)I had a write up hint and at first I thought meant nothing but once Sar posted about the teapot my wheels got turning and being in robinhood’s land and I started googling about where Robinhood was from and all that jazz. Turned out it was the north. I was pretty sure at that point that characters from Robinhood were around me. I tried to lure Robinhood out on thread, but Sar had realized too the universe around us and that it was fat, furry, and don’t leave off the tiny hat. It’s an important detail.
I’ll back off being so sure that the Sheriff of Nottingham is in the north if everyone else thinks I’m a blubbering idiot, but I will not back off him being in the game and most likely wolfy.
Is it a rojo if it’s a PM with another player? Thought that was only wolf aligned.
I’ve also thought about Zenge’s lower activity this game but I disagree that he’s only done theme related posted. Why do you say that?
MKG- seems flippant
Still on that, huh? I was just tagging some of my neutrals to help me resolve themAlso her tagging me this morning asking to hear more was just triggering for me because of april in emojis, but I'm trying not to let that cloud my judgement.
just leaving this here to look at laterDay One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (3) - alissa, TME, SAR
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (2) - finn, capri
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (6) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE (this order might be wrong), Visc
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG () -
Stagg (1) - AM
samac () -
Visc (1) - Cyndia
SAR (1) - Sporty
Someone turning (conversion) has been brought up multiple times. It would have to be in this thread and/or the signup thread. I am pretty sure it has been in reference to previous games people have played with others or other conversations. Maybe the terms gave it away as well but I didn't see it after a quick scan of the list MKG leftOh and I have a question, @BobLoblaw78 where did you even get the idea to bring up conversion as a possibility in your first game?
Yeah. So far her posts have just seemed shallow, and also kind of removed.Any chance you can expand on what you mean by this?
I'm really struggling to find a way to say what I want to say in a non-snarky wayOkay so I’m all for mechanics solving, but this is getting a bit extreme even for me. I don’t think I’ve read a single post all day that hasn’t been about mechanics.
Sure, I think someone mentioned it and I was like let’s not.Someone turning (conversion) has been brought up multiple times. It would have to be in this thread and/or the signup thread. I am pretty sure it has been in reference to previous games people have played with others or other conversations. Maybe the terms gave it away as well but I didn't see it after a quick scan of the list MKG left
would this be a fauxjo then?It's only a rojo if it was meant for pack chat. Sometimes people use it for other types of similar slips, but in that case it should have some explaining details (like when I rojoed on thread Something meant for dead chat)
And it's a completely logical and reasonable explanation that I'm inclined to believe. I just also know how dangerous you are in a wolf position, so I get kind of paranoid. I agree with AM and Dina though that the rest of the wagon is a better place to start looking.To be clear, I stayed on april because she was the player I'd had the strongest ping for, and there was a chance her robin hood reveal was a cover.
I hedged on it because I get uncomfortable when votes I'm on gain quick traction, but at the time april hadn't given me strong enough village vibes to immediately change my mind.
This doesn't make sense to me really.The one thing I’ll give MsP is that she was the first vote for herself.
makes me think that if she was in a wolf pack she might have gotten a packmate to do it instead.
Logic in WW always needs to be defended, even if the decision was what color underwear you put on this morning.Can you explain this and what wolfy motives there would be? It's not like we were voting to eliminate someone, just to elect someone as PM, so not sure what he would have had to defend?
Of these I'm least comfy with bread and vis, having interacted with cray in real time a bit in the wee hours of the morning I feel better about her. DocE is still DocE and I'll worry about him around day 5 if he hasn't caught a wolf or two yet lol MsP feels more in her village range even though I don't like the tactic from earlier. Not worried about samac.And it's a completely logical and reasonable explanation that I'm inclined to believe. I just also know how dangerous you are in a wolf position, so I get kind of paranoid. I agree with AM and Dina though that the rest of the wagon is a better place to start looking.
Since you also expressed discomfort with how the wagon built, how are you reading the rest of the wagon?
For Reference:
April (6) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE, vis, and I guess technically Cray, even though she was 9 minutes late.
That's a deadjo. Fauxjos are reaction tests (which have yet to succeed in practice).would this be a fauxjo then?
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (1) - Dubz
Cray (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (1) - genny
7/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (1) - genny
DocE (1) - April
April (1) - Dubz
8/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (1) - genny
DocE (1) - April
April (1) - Dubz
Shorty (1) - DocE
9/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (1) - genny
DocE (2) - April, Dina
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (1) - DocE
11/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (1) - samac
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (1) - genny
DocE (2) - April, Dina
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (1) - DocE
11/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, samac
DocE (2) - April, Dina
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
12/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (1) - Shorty
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, samac
DocE (3) - April, Dina, zenge
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
14/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, alissa
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
@DocEspana you are in the lead
15/28 players voting
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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, alissa
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
@DocEspana you are in the lead
15/28 players voting
Voting closes in ~23 hrs
Here, take this tally or something as an apology gift
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, alissa
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
@DocEspana you are in the lead
15/28 players voting
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new page, same tally
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri (1) - AM
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (2) - genny, alissa
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (2) - DocE, cray
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
@DocEspana you are in the lead
15/28 players voting
Voting closes in ~22...? hrs
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (4) - genny, alissa, sunshine, cray
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (2) - Dubz, Finn
Shorty (1) - DocE
Ms P (2) - bobloblaw, AM
@DocEspana you are in the lead
16/28 players voting
Voting closes in 11 hrs
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - Barks
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (5) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty
April (1) - Dubz
Shorty (1) - DocE
Ms P (2) - bobloblaw, AM
@DocEspana you are in the lead
14/28 players voting... somehow we are going backwards?
Voting closes in 10 hrs
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (1) - Ms P
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (1) - Dubz
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (2) - bobloblaw, AM
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG (1) - DocE
@DocEspana you are in the lead
19/28 players voting
Voting closes in 4.5 hours
Don't expect frequent tallies from me this evening until further notice, because I'm unfortunately still dealing with this personal thing
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (2) - Ms P, alissa
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (1) - Dubz
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (2) - bobloblaw, AM
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG (1) - DocE
@DocEspana you are in the lead
20/28 players voting
Voting closes in 3.5 hours
Don't expect frequent tallies from me this evening until further notice, because I'm unfortunately still dealing with this personal thing
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (2) - alissa, TME
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (5) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE (this order might be wrong)
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG (1) - DocE
Stagg (1) - AM
samac (1) - SAR
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - UNOFFICIAL Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (3) - alissa, TME, SAR
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (2) - finn, capri
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (6) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE, vis
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG (1) - DocE
Stagg (1) - AM
samac (0) -
vis (1) - cyndia
SAR (1) - sporty
vote close: 1 min ago
edited to fix a vote
Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally
Capri () -
AM (3) - alissa, TME, SAR
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (2) - finn, capri
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (6) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE (this order might be wrong), Visc
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG () -
Stagg (1) - AM
samac () -
Visc (1) - Cyndia
SAR (1) - Sporty
The real issue with any change in tone, is what is motivating it and what is the player doing. I observed some potentially wolfy things that made me way more concerned this time.But you say her tone sounds different every single game. Why would this time make her a wolf vs it just being NAI?