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Barkley13 said:
Wait what.... I thought you were literally told that part not that it was a tinfoil?
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No, nothing was directly told to me. Took somethings in a message, ran with it, and googled and found out my thoughts fit. I then learned the sheriff was for sure in the game and everything fit together.
 
DocEspana said:
If it matters in also not convinced they *are* a wolf. Im in a nebulous place where I really wish other people agreed to lynch her this round so I don't have to feel suspicious about her constantly because I just dont believe the story I got told.
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I'm just still not clear on why people are giving Cray a free pass as a vig after taking out some .... questionable as well as questionably-timed ... villagers and then trying to claim vig.
 
Stagg737 said:
Sorry, saw the SDN votes and thought those were those who hadn't voted.
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You made me panic because I thought for some reason my Finn vote hadn’t been counted. I jokingly voted for SDN for crashing in addition to my Finn vote. It’s all good, sorry if my panic might’ve come off as rude. That was not my intention.
 
sunshinefl said:
Here’s all of my notes from my depression-induced notepad instead of the spreadsheet


Village leans

-Cray- usual sharp tongued / sus everyone self, vig out of shots

-AM-usual pushy self, called out weird samac post, But SAR and Enigma both NK’ed

-Genny- usual jokey self; last second nail in MKG coffin

-Cyndia-agreeing with posts

-Ms P- was reading her village but slightly unsure about the whole bob law PM thing

-Alley- innocence, sincere in PM

-Stagg- didn’t know SAR was dead, calling things without logic out

-Bark- opposition to sea of Samac devotees





Neutral

-Wildzoo- ??????

-Shorty/Mayo-Did seem off but made 1 typical film shorty analysis post; Mayo has been oddly serious

-Samac-weird rojo?, over the top oh no reaction to April, broke 2 ties to yeet villagers, ?Enigma PM partner/dismissive, keeps telling the wolves secrets about kills on thread

-Sporty- mostly absent but not unusual

-Doc E- was leaning village and no resistance to yeet, tied, but april wagon could have been pushed to save him though

-Finnick- passionate argument for good village play, quiet now, still mostly arguing philosophy at this point

-Capri- seems to just pop in and say something random and not much else (I don’t think I’ve ever played with her before)



Wolf

-Dina- dismissed enigma’s ability as not NK worthy, logic for why I wouldn’t be a wolf but voting me

-LIS- seems to just be tunneling me and not much else, largely absent which may be his normal but I only played 1 day with him in bioshock, and then maybe trying to pocket me when he added the zenge was exaggerating part





Cray/Doc E compatible

Doc E/Shorty incompatible

Telemarketing notes April/AM connection

April/telemarketing probably incompatible

April/Zenge compatible

Stagg/AM incompatible





DEAD:



  1. April yeet day 1
  2. VMH night kill 1
  3. Enigma night kill 1
  4. SAR night kill 1
  5. Viscernable yeet day 2
  6. Zenge mid day 3 vig kill
  7. MKG yeet day 3
  8. Bread night kill 3
  9. Bob night kill 3
  10. Alissa mid day 4 vig kill
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I know wolf reads from wolves don’t matter very often, but LiS tunneled the **** out of her. Don’t think she’s wolfing and her points on Dina seems like she was legit annoyed.
the fact she’s wolf makes the “sea of Samac devotees” comment even better.
 
Prime Minister Tally

SAR - Dubz, SAR, April, AM, vetmedhead, zenge, samac, supershorty, finn
Ms P - Ms P, barkley, genny
Samac - mkg323, Telemarketing, bread
Shorty - dina, sporty
DocE - DocE, viscernable, crayola, alissa, cyndia, LIS, sunshine
capri1722 - capri1722

Absent: alley, stagg, bob

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Prime Minister Prime Tally

Samac - Zenge, crayola, shorty, samac, telemarketing, mkg, cyndia, doc e, sar, finn
Ms P - sunshine, genny, barkley, AM, ms p, capri, dubz

Visc voted Samac after vote close

Absent: bread, alissa, alley, LIS, april, visc, vmh, stagg, dina, bob, sporty

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Day One - Green and Pleasant Land - Vote Tally

Capri () -
AM (3) - alissa, TME, SAR
Stagg (0) -
Sporty (0) -
Cray (0) -
Alissa (2) - finn, capri
Zenge (3) - genny, sunshine, cray
DocE (6) - April, Dina, zenge, alleycat, Shorty, mkg
April (6) - Dubz, MsP, samac, Bread, DocE, Visc
Shorty (1) - stagg
Ms P (1) - bobloblaw
sunshine (3) - LIS, VMH, Barks
MKG () -
Stagg (1) - AM
samac () -
Visc (1) - Cyndia
SAR (1) - Sporty

Cray switched from Zenge to April after vote close

Absent: none

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Day Two - Keep Calm and WW On - Vote Tally

AM (1) - bobloblaw
Alissa (1) - stagg
Zenge (1) - Cray
Bobloblaw (1) - Ms P
Viscernable (7) - cyndia, capri, sunshine, sporty, mkg, samac, finn
Sunshine (1) - LIS
DocEspana (1) - Mayo
Dina (1) - dubz
Finn (2) - genny, alley
MKG (7) - barks, zenge, AM, dina, bread, DocE, visc
Capri (1) - alissa

Absent: shorty

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Day 3 - Am I Sitting in a Tin Can - Vote Tally

Bread (6) - mkg, AM, sporty, dubz, Ms P, alissa
Sunshine (2) - DocE, LIS
MKG (7) - Dina, capri, barks, Stagg, Cyndia, mayo, crayola
Barks (1) - Bobloblaw
Finn (3) - samac, alley, genny
LIS (1) - Sunshine
Capri (1) - Finn

Absent: bread

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Day 4 - The Black Server Death Descends - Vote Tally (PRE-VIG)

Finn (3) - Mayo, samac, alley
Sunshine (4) - Dubz, barks, dina, LIS, alissa
Alissa (3) - AM, stagg, sporty
Dubz (1) - genny
Mayo (1) - cray
Crayola (1) - DocE

SDN (1) - Ms P

Absent: MsP (kinda), Finn, Capri, Cyndia, Sunshine

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Day 4 - The Black Server Death Descends - Vote Tally (FINAL)

Finn (7) - Mayo, samac, alley, cyndia, genny, docE, sunshine
Sunshine (10) - Dubz, barks, dina, LIS, AM, finn, sporty, cray, capri, ms p
Dubz (0) -
Mayo (0) -
Crayola (0) -
Samac (0) -
AM (1) - stagg

SDN (3) - Ms P, alleycat, capri (I'm counting it, ok?)

Absent: none
 
WildZoo said:
This is through about page 50 and there's a lot more because she posted more as the pressure on her mounted. And I'm getting tired so I need a break. Note that I found these by ISOing mkg, not looking for mentions of her, so there could be relevant things missing. I'm not quoting my interactions with her again because I already did that. Commentary is sporadic.

Mkg and supermayo

Mkg and samac
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Mkg and AM - feels pretty good for AM. Already in my village reads but I feel better about it now.
Seems like she was trying to shade cray for her silencing here. Barks pointed out the timing was inaccurate.




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Not a direct interaction, but AM shade



She kinda walks it back and then walks it forward again. Like she wants to shade AM without actually drawing her ire.

And then AM responds to her post about the wagons










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And then mkg did an alissa ISO, which interestingly enough turned into AM analysis too. The following are all AM quotes that mkg responded to in her ISO.



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Lost the AM quote but it was something about alisa acting weird



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/end alissa/AM ISO, AM then responded to some things




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Mkg and barks
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I like this interaction, not just because that was my exact thought when I read that post again

Mkg and DocE

Note this was actually a response to april, mkg jumped in to reply




Same here, DocE was responding to april

Mkg and cray
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Miscellaneous:

A ??? comment on finn




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Perhaps relevant for supermayo and/or DocE



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Soft sunshine defense



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Just caught my eye that she mentioned capri and cyndia instead of pointing out that she had posted more than sporty, stagg, and bread.
Which reminded me of her later reads post...
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No one has any thoughts on this?
 
Imma just throw this out there. Nothing has refuted my location thing at this point. The only thing I don’t know what to do with is parts unknown. Like what even is going on there? If Voldemort is in the game like someone alluded to bet he’s there.

Whoever attacked me last night most likely came from Cornwall, but I have less to back that up then my north theory. I haven’t even went down that rabbit hole at this point, just wanted that out there for all village to see so the wolves will panic. 😈
 
Sorry guys I meant to be on during yeet close but I was taking a timed take-home exam and it took longer than I expected.

Stagg737 said:
Not really? This seems like extremely poor reasoning to place a vote there now. II agree that it seems like a great reason to bring Zenge back though.
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Like I said he had a role that gave him extra intel. From what I remember from the Benedict Cumberbatch movie about Turing he was known for intercepting German messages during the war and decoding them or something like that. I don't think what zenge had was any kind of seering ability. It would make sense if he was passively given information.

In ggoats he left breadcrumbs in the thread regarding his role and I'm sure he did it this game too. Which I just wanted to point this out.

Zenge142 said:
I’ve also come around on Samac’s tinfoil. I don’t think it’s AM, I have a strong village read on her. So that leaves Finn. I’d be happy to vote there and get that flip too.
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makes me think that he received info that the theory was true and that's what made him "come around" to it.

Stagg737 said:
Because she was visited by the ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future, obviously. Wait...
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Can't wait to hear the explanation for this one
 
capri1722 said:
A timed...take home exam...how is that even enforced?
(I assume you don't mean like a canvas quiz or something like that)
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It was on examsoft and they gave us a lot of time to do it but they didn't want us to have the ability to go in and out of the exam. I dunno what the point is, COVID has made everything weird.
 
samac said:
Hey, if she flips village I’ll feel bad. As I already said her reveal is convincing and I’m conflicted If she flips wolf I’ll rub it in for the rest of game.
That’s where I’m at right now.

Definitely not a thought I would have ever had, but that’s interesting. Seems like a waste of resources.
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Dubz is right in the setting of this game with limited PMs it might not make as much wolfy sense. Remember the game where Shorty tracked me, and saw me in conversation with someone, my mason partner? Depending on how results track, PMs vs pack chat, wolves might want PM cover for talking to each other. Makes perfect sense.
 
samac said:
If she flips what she claims you’re right, it was an important PR. I’m not sure if I swallow everything though given the “oh night 4 is the night” and part of me worried that there’s a wolf rezzer and they’ve agreed to let her take credit. Unfortunately it’s hard for me to not be skeptical at this point. Especially after I was fooled by MKG.
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What do you mean wolf rezzer and they let her take credit?
 
Stagg737 said:
Yes, lol. It's been updated.



Because I wanted my thought process on thread and also did not expect a role reveal before I could catch up.



I mean, this seems like a pretty arbitrary reason and if that was the reason people were looking at MKG it was the wrong one.



I'm leaving it for now, as I have previously. I do think the location aspect is still worth looking into as we progress.
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I considered that it mighty be right wolf, wrong reason. Point is right or wrong, I was aware the Zenge shot might lead to more pressure on mkg or Sunny. And it did. And they're both dead now. And I didn't have to claim any shots whatsoever. And I did. Nothing I've done is what I would do if I were wolf. Not the game I play or the way I would have to do it. You guys should treat me as confirmed village whether you think I am or not, and force the wolves to have to NK me, since I'm a vanillager now.

Wifom for days, I know. But consider how I actually wolf and I think it isn't hard to come to the right conclusion.
 
DocEspana said:
Sport ponies is remarkably suspicious for being a wolf. ( before this comment) Remember this vote if Finn ends up being a wolf because this is sport pony making sure Finn doesn't get voted out

Also applies to crayola placing her vote now too (assuming Finn is a wolf and not that both of the above are totally right to go for sunshine) I can honestly see sunshine being one but it's less like than Finn how that they've given what appear to be a pretty bad identity claim. Jane Eyre seems a bit of an odd fit for the roles we've seen so far. JMHO.
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I can't claim to have had great conviction on Sunny but I was there when it counted. I wasn't so much for voting Sunny as opposing Finn's vote this whole time, but you could argue that had I taken the opposite stance I did Finn would be dead and Sunny alive. I wasn't early on my vote, but nor was I so late that Sunny was a for sure goner.
 
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